View Full Version : have you ever tried to drink paint?
I've made my last piece drunk... good that my friend was with me beacause i couldn't recognize the colors :D
MitchThe$nitch
08-22-2006, 02:28 PM
?? so liquor makes you color blind? is that the moral of the story?
Flavicon
08-22-2006, 02:29 PM
never, in fact i do an eight day fast before each tag.
sobredosis.
08-22-2006, 06:35 PM
its hell of a good way to do scribbles and shit but fuck if you want to pass a night on a cell go ahead and drink a 6 pack for me.
Abracadabra
08-22-2006, 08:07 PM
i have bombed drunk more times than i care to remember
Go-Ball-Deep
08-22-2006, 08:13 PM
:lol: DOES it really matter....the question is do you have any skills....If you have skills then it does not matter if you drink...:what:
haze424
08-23-2006, 12:08 AM
ya last time i checked its more fun to bomb drunk.
LastBoyScout
08-23-2006, 03:56 AM
i think 90% of writers are drunk 90% of the times they're bombing and are drunk 99.9% of times they get caught bombing
Iron_Lung
08-23-2006, 05:17 AM
i think 90% of writers are drunk 90% of the times they're bombing and are drunk 99.9% of times they get caught bombing
although i dont know how accurate the percentages are, i think you are right. one of my all-time favorite activities used to be walking around with a deuce deuce in one hand and a mop in the other. lets just say im approaching 9 months of alcohol sobriety now.
Ralph rock
08-23-2006, 07:17 AM
i think 90% of writers are drunk 90% of the times they're bombing and are drunk 99.9% of times they get caught bombing
drinking and bomben--- ^^^ sounds about right.... but its surley a fun sport, i must say..until you get pinched :scrambled:
!@#$%
08-23-2006, 02:21 PM
don't start anymore threads until you have read through the site.
this is a retarded question.
CORPORAL-PUNISHMENT
08-23-2006, 02:49 PM
i wanna see pics.
En Sabah Nur
08-23-2006, 03:11 PM
painting drunks? isn't that what the hoes at scribble jam are for?
Abracadabra
08-23-2006, 03:18 PM
i think 90% of writers are drunk 90% of the times they're bombing and are drunk 99.9% of times they get caught bombing
FALSE! alcohol, as myself and my friends like to call it, is the 'cloak of invisibility'. when you're drunk you're completely invisible and can do whatever you want! drink up, bitches.
BO...you know the rest
tango 24
08-24-2006, 08:44 AM
i keep mine in a bottle of gin
frankiefiver
08-24-2006, 10:24 AM
FALSE! alcohol, as myself and my friends like to call it, is the 'cloak of invisibility'. when you're drunk you're completely invisible and can do whatever you want! drink up, bitches.
BO...you know the rest
Hahah, leading those youngsters astray.. You bad motherfucker you.
hopeizm
08-26-2006, 02:25 AM
Weird how when your drunk and dont give a fuck... no one seems to take no notice when your out and about.....
TrAk KoniG
09-01-2006, 03:54 PM
Goen out bombing wen drunk is the fukin best its like ur hollow man. No one can see you. But the actual graffiti part suks you have no cordination. And its a wast of paint.
iloveboxcars
09-01-2006, 04:13 PM
thats why you only do quick fill ins and tags. if its ugly who gives a shit, its quick fill ins and tags.
Abracadabra
09-01-2006, 05:05 PM
Hahah, leading those youngsters astray.. You bad motherfucker you.
you know i speak the truth!
Hashassian
09-01-2006, 05:25 PM
I do this all the time.
Fuuka Narutaki
09-01-2006, 11:27 PM
Hahaha, i gotta try that. I've only bombed drunk.....once on the I-15 on my way to Vegas. It makes you feel more of a "I don't give a fuck" mood. I loved it.
SYNSOE
09-02-2006, 05:45 AM
is there any other way to bomb?
seriously....
i've never bombed sober...
AOTPrep
09-04-2006, 08:20 AM
yeh man real question is have you ever tried to bomb while clean? haha
tango 24
09-04-2006, 08:32 AM
is there any other way to bomb?
seriously....
i've never bombed sober...
bombing sober takes balls...
when your drunk you just dont give a fuck
isor357
09-04-2006, 12:49 PM
im not sure ive ever thrown anything down while sober...
quick tip... pick up the 40 instead of the 12 pack
papa_dukes
09-05-2006, 12:45 AM
Being drunk and painting is like an abusive spouse to me
Destroy All Lines
09-05-2006, 07:42 AM
painting drunk is boss as fuck. brings a new meaning to Night Train
bombing drunk is incredible
IrishCarBombs
09-05-2006, 10:27 PM
i've bombed drunk and sober.
sober i was more worried but i was more alert and shit
and drunk i have the time of my life
haha so yeah drunk bombing is the best
Adernaline1
09-07-2006, 09:13 PM
i bomb alot of the time drunk. i just have trouble getting around if i can't drive, so its normally after a club or something.
Akrisone
09-08-2006, 03:04 AM
I got a fairly decent story about bombing drunk. I wasnt painting I was just doing handstyles...so yea it was May 2-4 of this past year and i was out at a guys house watching fireworks for Victoria Day...anyways i was sitting drinking beers real quick...I just kept drinkin and drinking and drinking...I didnt even realise how drunk i was until we got up after the fireworks were done...fuck i was smashed...so me and my other friend decided that we were gonna go to our other friends house...trick was we had to ride our bikes to the guys house cause noboyd was driving in that condition...So as were riding my buddy sees a mail box and hes like fuck that im tagging that shit up...Then i said to him With what? next thing i know hes like man with my marker...im like ok whatever...then hes like look...Dont ask me but somehow I said yo man wheres u marker next thing i know it hes back with me on the other side of the street showing me the marker and the box is already got a handstyle on it? im so confused at this point...so i take the OTR and go to do a handstee on the box too...i start doing the handstyle and finish it and i a car rolls by...i look and nearly fall over cause the car startled me ahhaha
Then there was a road sign beside the mail box so i went and did a handstyle on that too...we continued on our way to our friends house and eventually made it..now heres the trippy ass part ahhahaa
I was rolling down the street a few days later where we had done the handstyles and low and behold....i see the stop sign and its taged but theres no mail box? i continue down the street and see the mail box thats been tagged! turns out teh two things that i bombed were 100 meters apart and from what i can remember is tagging the mail box and teh street sign being right beside it? ahahha thats why kids you should never go bombing when ure completely smashed off ure face...cause u dont know what youll end up bombing or where
Mr Hyde
09-08-2006, 04:08 AM
I got a fairly decent story about bombing drunk. I wasnt painting I was just doing handstyles...so yea it was May 2-4 of this past year and i was out at a guys house watching fireworks for Victoria Day...anyways i was sitting drinking beers real quick...I just kept drinkin and drinking and drinking...I didnt even realise how drunk i was until we got up after the fireworks were done...fuck i was smashed...so me and my other friend decided that we were gonna go to our other friends house...trick was we had to ride our bikes to the guys house cause noboyd was driving in that condition...So as were riding my buddy sees a mail box and hes like fuck that im tagging that shit up...Then i said to him With what? next thing i know hes like man with my marker...im like ok whatever...then hes like look...Dont ask me but somehow I said yo man wheres u marker next thing i know it hes back with me on the other side of the street showing me the marker and the box is already got a handstyle on it? im so confused at this point...so i take the OTR and go to do a handstee on the box too...i start doing the handstyle and finish it and i a car rolls by...i look and nearly fall over cause the car startled me ahhaha
Then there was a road sign beside the mail box so i went and did a handstyle on that too...we continued on our way to our friends house and eventually made it..now heres the trippy ass part ahhahaa
I was rolling down the street a few days later where we had done the handstyles and low and behold....i see the stop sign and its taged but theres no mail box? i continue down the street and see the mail box thats been tagged! turns out teh two things that i bombed were 100 meters apart and from what i can remember is tagging the mail box and teh street sign being right beside it? ahahha thats why kids you should never go bombing when ure completely smashed off ure face...cause u dont know what youll end up bombing or where
that story fuckin sucked
Smart
09-08-2006, 04:37 AM
who me? not that I can remember...
that story fuckin sucked
truth
Adernaline1
09-09-2006, 12:49 AM
who me? not that I can remember...
hahahah
delonemonkey
09-09-2006, 03:11 AM
i just hit whatever i see and dont look out for anyone when im drunk
Destroy All Lines
09-12-2006, 06:48 AM
really tho you feel fuckin invincible. sorta an "I dont give a FUCK" feelin
Some1
09-15-2006, 08:05 PM
I pay other people to "get up" for me so I wouldnt know. Maybe they have a couple drinks who knows... I certainly wouldnt tolerate getting high on company time though...
FentheHen
09-15-2006, 10:45 PM
lots of times
krysnum1
09-16-2006, 05:22 AM
A better question is...
have you ever bombed sober?
I have only once.
Raw fish
09-16-2006, 05:29 AM
if i have another beer, i might have to go out
schizophrenia
09-17-2006, 07:45 AM
what about on LSD or mushrooms or crack??? i've painted in many differant sitiations
¤Shark¤
09-17-2006, 10:33 AM
really tho you feel fuckin invincible. sorta an "I dont give a FUCK" feelin
Completely agree lol.
My mate went bombing while he was drunk and stoned. The next day we went and had a look at the place. It was absolute carnage. He didnt even remember what he'd done. There was broken shit downt he street as well as paint, tags, and throw ups everywhere hahaha
just bomb it
09-19-2006, 01:31 AM
how many of us bomed high/baked/stoned.
i have and its the shit
it makes my handstyle look clean and the fact you wont rember any thing the next day except
all the charlston chew wrappers on you
tango 24
09-19-2006, 11:48 AM
what about on LSD or mushrooms or crack??? i've painted in many differant sitiations
cracks abit much you junkie fool
i prefer drunken rampages
Destroy All Lines
09-20-2006, 04:56 AM
drunken rampages are where its at. esp when you don't get caught up
CACashRefund
09-20-2006, 05:05 AM
i had a pound of meth once and for the next 37 months i didn nothing but do graffiti
and then i went to sleep for 4 years
which sucked cause everything was long gone by the time i woke up
¤Shark¤
09-20-2006, 07:49 AM
I wish I could be like you ^^^
loaftie
09-20-2006, 12:23 PM
hahahaha, charlston chew is the shit. but yeah when i paint "ON WEED" i definately catch a paranoid vibe sometimes. when im drunk i get the opposite. but recently i was painting on the tracks (sober, but at like 8pm) and i definately encountered problems when the fucking police officers went up the tracks and sat and wait for us. but my buddy was too busy telling me how we should get up on the billboard and im like whaaaaaaaaaaat? so i made some bullshit excuse about where i was going and mentioned "the bus" and "our shortcut" alot a little loud and walked away. they were just sitting in the car across the street. my point being if i was drunk i probibally wouldnt have cared.
Destroy All Lines
09-22-2006, 06:09 AM
so fucking true....
-TORN-
09-26-2006, 06:18 PM
Quick Off Topic question
What's everyone's favorite drink?
MOE-LESTER
09-27-2006, 04:11 AM
HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE ACTUALLY WENT BOMBING AND KILLING PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME
A NEW DEFINITION OF SAVAGERY
STYLEISKING
09-27-2006, 01:43 PM
shit dont work for me,you do your best stuff when you are clean and sober!
NaughtyApe
09-28-2006, 02:12 AM
dont u get cought hella ez if ur drunk where i am if u go out sober its still risky
NaughtyApe
09-28-2006, 02:13 AM
fuck dude its ricky enough boming sober wher ei live how the fuck dotn u get cought
politicalprisoner
09-28-2006, 02:52 AM
are you slow or something? ^^^
V for Vagina
09-28-2006, 08:38 AM
Jesus christ allmighty. You sir are a dipshit.
As for painting drunk... I thought that it was a given.
V for Vagina
09-28-2006, 08:47 AM
*post directed at tango.
tango 24
09-28-2006, 03:37 PM
HOW MANY OF YOU HAVE ACTUALLY WENT BOMBING AND KILLING PEOPLE AT THE SAME TIME
A NEW DEFINITION OF SAVAGERY
more like a new definition of stupidity
id rather get busted purely for graffiti rather than murder
get the fuck outta here
¤Shark¤
09-29-2006, 10:28 AM
HAHAH^^ I'ts amazing what some people will do to get a kick.
loaftie
09-29-2006, 07:04 PM
i wanna paint on acid though
-TORN-
09-29-2006, 11:55 PM
That'd be some crazy shit:D
system fucker
09-30-2006, 09:19 PM
i'm always fucking drunk....
isor357
09-30-2006, 09:35 PM
always drunk. Sometimes naked. But for real i have this little freeway thing.
If its a real filthy spot i will drop my drawers so everybody driving by gets a clear shot of my ass.
Oliver Clothesoff
09-30-2006, 09:38 PM
i always love when people paint and there not feeling it or it sucks they put drunk next to it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hahaha like it makes a difference
beansandrice
09-30-2006, 09:47 PM
anybody got pictures of stuff they did while they were drunk??that should be kinda funny
BANZ BLANK
10-01-2006, 05:15 AM
I have bomb high on weed, speed, pills and some other stuff, but drunk bombing is great, like some dude say'd on this tread "absolute carnage"
Also booze & some pills helps, i used a lot of Ribotril with booze and got fucking crazy missions.
tango 24
10-01-2006, 05:18 AM
Jesus christ allmighty. You sir are a dipshit.
As for painting drunk... I thought that it was a given.
lets be clear on something
sometime in the near future
i will eat you, everyone you love and probably all the food in your house
i will proceed to regurgitate you, stamp on your head and call my friend
to come and give me a bit of help when im tired...
my friend happens to be the offspring of chuck norris and a ninja
he WILL fuck you up
and then skullfuck you
¤Shark¤
10-01-2006, 07:18 AM
Remember to rip out his eyeballs first ;) ^^^
I wonder if he has a faggot name like lawrence hahahhaha
tango 24
10-01-2006, 09:34 AM
fuck that, just push them out through the back of his head with my dick
TURBOCAPSLOK1
10-01-2006, 01:43 PM
HAVE U EVER GONE BOMBING? "YEAH MAN, PLENTY OF TIMES"
YEAH BUT HAVE YOU EVER GONE BOMBING.. ONNN WEEEEED?
just bomb it
10-11-2006, 04:47 AM
hahahaha, charlston chew is the shit. but yeah when i paint "ON WEED" i definately catch a paranoid vibe sometimes. when im drunk i get the opposite. but recently i was painting on the tracks (sober, but at like 8pm) and i definately encountered problems when the fucking police officers went up the tracks and sat and wait for us. but my buddy was too busy telling me how we should get up on the billboard and im like whaaaaaaaaaaat? so i made some bullshit excuse about where i was going and mentioned "the bus" and "our shortcut" alot a little loud and walked away. they were just sitting in the car across the street. my point being if i was drunk i probibally wouldnt have cared.
yes but who in here gotten so high you were death (im talking about not being able to hear) and went bombing.that was the best day ever.
and all i rember was my homie telling me some shit this hag was yelling at us
MOE-LESTER
10-11-2006, 04:59 AM
more like a new definition of stupidity
id rather get busted purely for graffiti rather than murder
get the fuck outta here
NIGGA YOU AINT DOWN THEN. ALL REAL WRITERS HAVE COMMITTED HOMICIDE TOO. GET DOWN WITH IT. SABERS KILLED LIKE 100 FOOLS ALREADY
BUFFAkilla
10-11-2006, 09:41 AM
i wouldnt of called it painting probably scribbling then i woke up with paint all over my hands
asitseems
10-14-2006, 05:01 PM
bombing drunk is a bad idea even if your not caught painting a cop can bust you for being intoxicated but it sure is fun
NoShit.
10-14-2006, 08:58 PM
^^Whoever gets stopped for public intoxication deserves to get arrested.. I know my limit and even when Im past it in public I wouldnt draw the attetion of a cop..
Bombin bent is where its at and I dont mean just drunk.
Slush.e
10-15-2006, 04:32 AM
TRY SIGNING IN TO 12OZ PROPHET WHLE YOURE DRUNK HAHA
CurtisWarren
10-15-2006, 10:50 AM
Bombing drunk is the easiest way to get gripped. Just make sure you look around before you hit up. When your pissed its easy to forget the basic ways not to get arrested.
biterevokwithstyle
10-15-2006, 06:15 PM
I guess being high is just %100.00 of the time for writers haha.
dontsleep34
10-16-2006, 01:37 AM
on newyears 2005 I tagged the back window with my trusty pilot when I was under the influence of jack daniels. lets put it this way Ive never added more arrows in my life to sumthing than i did in this tag. i looked like this sorta v
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv vvvvvvvvvvvvv
--->--->->>>>>>>>>>>>>Phili<<<<<<<<<<<---<----<<<<<<----
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Clonedmulestew
10-17-2006, 05:45 PM
painting drunk- no prob
ganja- no prob
crack- dont touch it
hallucinogens- tough subject
tried painting on mushrooms before the shit started out o.k but once it came on full strength the painting got sort of diffucult. i was more concerned with the actual act of spraying the can than what I was painting, suffice to say, it looked like shit, but hey LSD might be a different stroll.
Clonedmulestew
10-17-2006, 05:46 PM
for bombin nothing beats pills though, floating around town feeling invisible...
chyea
10-17-2006, 06:02 PM
im sure yall have heard of DTU
drunker than u
Destroy All Lines
10-20-2006, 09:46 AM
the true ninja is unleashed via tequila though LOL
DewrNYC
10-20-2006, 11:39 PM
Almost everytime i panted i was 3 40's deep... 5 or so times i was a bit more.. those were the times i got pinched... Being torn up makes you brave, but stupid too...
Shit im drunk right now
YourSistersAssCookie
10-21-2006, 12:13 AM
Couple pints of guiness will certainly get me climbing fences and shit.
Used to go out bombing while drunk and stoned on the regular.. Brave and stupid are fine lines..
When I used to drop acid I went bombing one time.. Well sort of.. I was driving my gf's car at the time and was at a stop light.. Got out and actually tagged: Dosing On Acid.. on a wall.. Realized somone was watering their plants and watching me.. Being in ninja mode I hid the can next to the car.. Got back in, waited 'til they were done got back out and got the can. The girl wasn't mad that I was catching a tag.. She was just mad that everyone would know we took acid.. After that I made sure to leave all cans at home when dosing..
Little Drummer Boy
10-25-2006, 03:45 AM
I can't bomb worth shit when I'm fucked up.
BUFFAkilla
10-25-2006, 11:13 AM
wel have you ever got the can and the bottle mixed up and ended up with a mouthfull of paint .?/
YourSistersAssCookie
10-28-2006, 10:42 PM
or sprayed the paint into a bag and huffed it like a mexican field worker?
chigraffmag
10-29-2006, 12:54 AM
if you dont get drunk and bomb i think thats weak...all reads heads know you need to be drunk to bomb ill...if you get caught up cause your drunk.. you are a flake.....ill drink a fuckin 30 pack of old style with a freind of two and start doing streett fills if cops come i run and get away not get caught.
YourSistersAssCookie
10-29-2006, 10:42 PM
Crack is back fools.
SagaContinues
10-29-2006, 10:47 PM
yea, but my shit was not proportioned correctly.
QuEaZy
11-01-2006, 01:00 PM
are you kidding me. ive spent have of my graffiti career drunk...i still come off though haha
i got dookies
11-01-2006, 04:56 PM
I've been doing graffiti drunk high or on krank since i was 11.
tango 24
11-03-2006, 02:33 AM
are you kidding me. ive spent have of my graffiti career drunk...i still come off though haha
graffiti is a career?
how much are you paid per piece?
<note sarcasm>
victorvondoom
11-03-2006, 02:42 AM
if alchohol was illegal and weed was legal, then there would be less graffiti and more art fags
purik1
11-03-2006, 03:37 AM
yo hitting up drunk is dangerous
shameless self promotion
11-03-2006, 10:28 PM
yo hitting up drunk is dangerous
FOR REALZ YO!
steveparesucksgasm
11-03-2006, 10:40 PM
i hit up yo girl drunk
jk. hitting up at all is dangerous, dont be a bitch about it
Destroy All Lines
11-08-2006, 03:51 AM
basicallly the verdict is this...once again......painting drunk is fun as shit, but your more liable to fuck up, or get caught
I've seen the results, now I don't paint UI :)
taco neck
11-08-2006, 05:21 AM
just for the dutch courage. but not sloppy drunk. just to get limber.
foneiz2
11-12-2006, 10:54 PM
lets be clear on something
sometime in the near future
i will eat you, everyone you love and probably all the food in your house
i will proceed to regurgitate you, stamp on your head and call my friend
to come and give me a bit of help when im tired...
my friend happens to be the offspring of chuck norris and a ninja
he WILL fuck you up
and then skullfuck you
on newyears 2005 I tagged the back window with my trusty pilot when I was under the influence of jack daniels. lets put it this way Ive never added more arrows in my life to sumthing than i did in this tag. i looked like this sorta v
vvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvvv vvvvvvvvvvvvv
--->--->->>>>>>>>>>>>>Phili<<<<<<<<<<<---<----<<<<<<----
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
if you dont get drunk and bomb i think thats weak...all reads heads know you need to be drunk to bomb ill...if you get caught up cause your drunk.. you are a flake.....ill drink a fuckin 30 pack of old style with a freind of two and start doing streett fills if cops come i run and get away not get caught.
if alchohol was illegal and weed was legal, then there would be less graffiti and more art fags
just for the dutch courage. but not sloppy drunk. just to get limber.
multi quoting you weak stupid bitches.
you are dumbfucks if i ever knew any
tango 24
11-14-2006, 02:51 AM
i made my comment in jes sirrah
now take that back you prick
dumb fucks....
shut up
YourSistersAssCookie
11-15-2006, 03:29 AM
http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b81/robb307/IMG_0010.jpg
last time I got drunk and painted...
dontsleep34
11-19-2006, 02:33 AM
Quick Off Topic question
What's everyone's favorite drink?
Jack daniels or budwiser.
Tisko
11-19-2006, 03:10 AM
i shoot up crack in my balls and piss on children
fuck molly
11-19-2006, 04:33 AM
fuck all of you and your gay thread.
¤Shark¤
11-19-2006, 11:29 AM
It was okay, until fuktards started bullshitting. which is not uncommon unmoungst the 12oz threads.
loaftie
11-19-2006, 11:46 PM
i went bombing drunk last night (dumbass) and im not even talking DRUNk im talking full out i-dont-care-about-my-work enough to have the decency to know what i was doing.... i went into this alley from the main street... like in between two buildings and started hitting a wall then this lady came over and was looking at me and i waqs just covering my face with my arm.... i totally thought i was fucked because she kept standing there like 3 feet away from me. my friend made me leave but i came back like 2 seconds later and finished. my point is (as i usually have one) cover your face with your arm and it doesnt matter really...if ur drunk enough.
AS for bombing naked we all know that real bombers do it naked
YourSistersAssCookie
11-20-2006, 12:48 AM
I got so drunk and jerked off on your moms pillow after abuncha irish car bombs
dont be mad dude
it was years ago
¤Shark¤
11-20-2006, 10:41 AM
So it was just the pillow. thats okay then.
have you ever tried painting sober?
Luca Brasi
11-20-2006, 09:01 PM
40 of old e and a zanny bar and you can be king in one night
SEANCONNERY
11-24-2006, 07:31 PM
painting drunk is the dopest way to do it, i dont give two shits of a fuck when im paiinting wasted, outlines galore
YourSistersAssCookie
11-25-2006, 02:56 AM
I like to fart when im out painting drunk.
BigFoot
11-25-2006, 06:24 AM
Painting drunk is the way to do it, it makes me feel more alive!:ballcap:
tango 24
11-25-2006, 11:47 AM
i hate it when people write "drunk" next to a piece
like its some kind of excuse for a horrible piece
crews
11-25-2006, 01:37 PM
yea true it does make you feel more alive but more likeley to get bustad by 5-O...piant when your stone thats the shit ...
YourSistersAssCookie
11-25-2006, 10:15 PM
Paintin high on meth and vodka is where its at.
you can run like a cheetah and dont feel a fucking thing
pop a couple of yah moms vikes and your good to go.
tango 24
11-26-2006, 05:46 AM
excellent title change
i havent drunk paint
but i've drunk glue
when i was 5
bowel obstructions galore
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