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RumPuncher
10-03-2006, 02:31 PM
a news report:


Who says you can hope only to block gambling expansion, not to roll it back?

One of the most egregious forms of gambling took a body blow over the weekend. House
and Senate conferees attached an Internet gambling ban to an unrelated port security
measure on Friday and passed the combined measure overwhelmingly on Saturday,
September 30. The port security measure was far from a perfect bill, but we can take
great satisfaction from the Internet gambling ban.

This development came suddenly, and is somewhat surprising. Earlier, proponents had
been attempting to attach the Internet provision to the Department of Defense funding
bill. The change in strategy apparently occurred on Friday.

The Internet gambling ban creates some real enforcement teeth by barring banks and
other financial institutions from facilitating the practice through credit cards and similar
financial instruments. No money, no betting.

The new measure is incomplete in that it does not extend the Wire Act to cover Internet
gambling, and in fact fails to apply to all the forms of gambling that the Wire Act applied
to; there are carve-outs for horse racing and lotteries.

That limitation aside, this is a serious step against a form of gambling that otherwise had
the potential to become even a greater problem to our communities than casinos.
Unchecked, Internet gambling could effectively bring a casino into every home, make it
available to teenagers, and keep it open 24/7.







wow..... good thing people are deciding what's right for the American people and slipping it through congress.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/09/30/AR2006093000024_pf.html



House and Senate negotiators reached agreement last night on legislation to tighten maritime and port security regulations and, in a last-minute move, added an unrelated measure that seeks to ban Internet gambling.
At the same time, House negotiators prevailed in their fight to strip out $4.5 billion in rail and mass-transit security funds included in the Senate provision.
The port security and Internet gambling legislation was approved 409 to 2 in the House and on a voice vote in the Senate early today, as lawmakers rushed to leave Washington for their fall reelection campaigns. Senate Republican and Democratic leaders announced it would be passed by voice vote after the House's late-night vote.

MY ROTTING LIVER
10-03-2006, 06:09 PM
The only reason anyone cares about Online gambling is because it plays well with the moralistic community while fulfilling the aims of Indian Casinos, Riverboats, Vegas and Atlantic City...

Smart
10-03-2006, 06:40 PM
I don't understand the 24/7 lines very much... regular casinos don't close, it's a 24/7 business.

Why are these people concerned about what I might be doing in my own house with my own money?

RumPuncher
10-03-2006, 06:43 PM
and betting on horses is still fine.... because rich white guys are the ones who own and bet on horses.

spectr
10-03-2006, 06:51 PM
no the whole thing is they don't get taxes, see they cut the taxes for rich white people and they don't want poorer people who gamble to get away with not paying a 30% tax on their winnings..

Smart
10-03-2006, 07:05 PM
well.. judging by the broad representation of humanity that I've seen at Highaleah I would guess that horse racing has a mass appeal but... I don't know, they used to show the races on TV and all but like JaiAlai and the greyhounds I'm not gonna bet unless I'm actually there.

If I was gonna make any online book at all it would be football... but this seems to be aimed at online poker and stuff. I don't understand how it's really all that different from paying to play Starcraft or something. The only real difference is that there's the potential to literally 'lose the farm'. What's that one online supergame where people are auctioning weapons and stuff on Ebay? Why isn't that just a complete gamble, spending real money for 'virtual items' used in a 'virtual universe'??? Just another gamble.

Why should there be a law (enforcement funded by my tax dollars) when I see no evidence of a criminal problem? Does this really affect anyone you know? I don't mean now that they can't gamble but before... Has anyone been robbed or ripped off by someone addicted to online gambling? I know there are cases out there, secretaries embezzling the retirement fund and ministers losing the tithe but we already have laws that punish the secretaries and ministers. Why now must we punish the hundreds of thousands of responsible gamblers?

Smart
10-03-2006, 07:08 PM
no the whole thing is they don't get taxes, see they cut the taxes for rich white people and they don't want poorer people who gamble to get away with not paying a 30% tax on their winnings..


if you win money gambling online it still falls under the 'capital gains' section of the income tax code... by the very nature of online finances there is a full on paper trail so it's easy enough to verify.

spectr
10-03-2006, 07:36 PM
if you win money gambling online it still falls under the 'capital gains' section of the income tax code... by the very nature of online finances there is a full on paper trail so it's easy enough to verify.

yes but do they look at the paper trail? yes the paper trail is easy to verify but hard to find and people don't report it quite often, plus they don't get to tax the companies that profit from this.

!@#$%
10-03-2006, 08:48 PM
they'll always find a loopholio

angelofdeath
10-03-2006, 09:57 PM
what pisses me off about this stuff is how they have to tack bills on to other bills.... they simply cant pass a bill about one issue. they negotiate, buy and sell votes, scratch each others backs, then get what they want.

ASER1NE
10-07-2006, 04:06 AM
This shit is so rediculous, It just adds fuel to the fire of this american gov'ts beauracratic nonsense.

soupBDC
11-15-2006, 10:06 AM
... So this bans Banks from transfering money to online gambling establisments? Use paypal, or another european bank. Problem solved. People seem to forget congress doesnt make laws for the world. This really just fucks american banks out of their cut.

Lt.Bernum
11-15-2006, 01:51 PM
... So this bans Banks from transfering money to online gambling establisments? Use paypal, or another european bank. Problem solved. People seem to forget congress doesnt make laws for the world. This really just fucks american banks out of their cut.

exactly, it also fucks American businesses aswell as the banks....partypoker.com - run out of Gibraltar - hasn't gone anywhere

Dawood
11-15-2006, 01:54 PM
ha, good call Columbo soup...