Is New York the biggest hating City in todays Graf game?

[Movement and Mathmatics]

From What i have seen on this Site, it seems that way.

[M_I]

wtf??

[Movement and Mathmatics]

This is a discussion feel free to voice your opinion.

[KARE?]

wait...what?? do u mean we are haters?? or were hated??

[earl broclo ESQ]

i hear hawaii threads keep getting shut down due to hate --maybe they take the cake?

eskimoes hate the most though. those mother fuckers can hate, like gold medal hating. harpoons and clubs. the alaskan fisherman is a fucking hater!

[KARE?]

i still dont get this thread:confused: :confused:

[dundermifflin]

bad rep but chicago gets shutdown frequently.

[Movement and Mathmatics]

i still dont get this thread:confused: :confused:

Whats not to understand. Im asking the general public, do they think New York City is the biggest hating city in graf.

Meaning is New York full of haters that diss everyone's shit wether its good graf or bad. They dont let out of town shit run bombing or productions.

New York mentality is hating on anyone not from there.

To me im not impressed with New Yorks current stable of writers representing. Piecing there almost non-existent. The bombing will always be on point from new york style and tradition wise. But Why so much hating even from the bombers.

Its just a question. This is the only city i have been to that acts like this.

[UPS!]

Its Dc easy

[Chubbs]

almost any major city with a high crime rate has tons of beef. just common sense.

[Movement and Mathmatics]

Its not about beef. Its that it seems like in New york lazy writers only want to get up to diss someone or go over someone from oout of town. Instead of just get up to get up.

[UPS!]

Chubbs said it best.

[2Blazzed]

Brooklyn on top of the food chain

[IrishCarBombs]

cheaa

[GLIK$]

no kidding, wouldnt you be mad if you created a scene that was stolen, bastardized, and shit on by the entire world?


Oh its also because we're NEW YORKERS. It's what we do kid.

[Mellow]

fuck off mathmatics boy

[Movement and Mathmatics]

no kidding, wouldnt you be mad if you created a scene that was stolen, bastardized, and shit on by the entire world?


Oh its also because we're NEW YORKERS. It's what we do kid.

For the first part, the stolen part im not sure if it was ever your scene maybe from a hip hop standpoint the whole coming together of rap dance and graf, but from a graf standpoint this is what im talking about.

Its a well known fact that graffiti was established at the same point or before by los angeles gangs. This is debateable and im not sure if i would waste my time on that argument. But the fact that the elitist mentality of writers in general whether new york or not, have me thinking about where did this all start and why.

In my days bombers chilled with piecers and piecers chilled with bombers everyone that was a real writer was respected period. Cities didnt mean shit. If you repped u repped. I can go on but im headed to dinner.

And the 2nd part yes you are and you earned that right.

[earl broclo ESQ]

hasn't graff always been a pissing contest for egos and super egos? no matter where you go, people are always talking shit, starting beef, hating, fighting, all that bullshit. it doesn't matter if it's new york city, or idaho city, it's just kind of how this whole culture developed. i think the LA tag banging scene was a little more fierce than the shit talking NYC scene, when it comes to retaliation. i might be wrong though.

maybe you see something different from NYC, that makes you think they are the biggest group of haters. but the evolution of graff, and the incorporation of the media, internet, and it's forums, has turned hating into a special olympian sport. you've got 14 year old kids in arkansas, talking like they were all city in 85'. you've got people hating on legends, because they saw three other retards do the same thing. "oh man his letters are fucking stupid" or "that dude's handstyle is for fags."

i saw a dude get rolled by four kids from one crew at a club in rhode island. i asked "what was that all about?" they replied, "he was talking shit on the internet in a chat room." that was ten years ago. i can only imagine shit has gotten worse since then.

people can hate on me for saying this, but graff culture has a level of pride that can grow into hardcore ignorance. it's immature bullshit, but it's all part of the culture. it doesn't matter what city you're in anymore, it only depends on the individuals.

[M_I]

^im going to have to agree......people get gassed on themselves way too quick these days...

[BANZ BLANK]

you're rigth EARL, you're just too fucking rigth & I hate you for that! hahaha
No, just kidding.

But in the other hand, let's be honest is fun from time to time some ammount of beef, the stupid thing is when it gets out of hands & grows into violence, i think people who got to figth is because you can paint shit.
I mean, If you want to kick my ass we can just get to the ass kiking part with out using graffiti as an escuse?


BTW: sorry for my poor english, but i hope you get what i mean...

[earl broclo ESQ]

i've said it before, eskimoes are the biggest bunch of haters around.

http://www.newciv.org/pic/nl/artpic/10/1436/eskimo.jpg

and a big thumbs up for haters from alaska:

http://cecilvortex.com/monkey/graphics/rawk.gif

[M_I]

nah son. Mongols are the worst. Ever see mulan?!

[Movement and Mathmatics]

movement, it sounds like you have something against NYC writers or the way they conduct themselves online.
graff writers across the US of A are cheap-ass, whiney, rude, self-absorbed assholes.
i'm one myself.
they use local slang, are generally xenophobic (Xenophobia is a fear or contempt of foreigners or strangers) and express it regularly.

lots of places are full of assholes. dallas and houston i've lived in and known plenty of assholes.
atlanta has assholes.
miami has assholes.
LA, san francisco, oakland has assholes.

it's universal.

Nah i have nothing against new york, i always respect tradition and still think there alot of New york shit that is dope. Its the mentality of some NY writers that i dont agree with.

I agree with Earl on his earlier post though.

I think there are alot of assholes also around every graf scene in every city, its something to be an asshole but to actually act upon stupidity i think NY takes the lead on that. Dissing real writers that put in work everywhere, just because. Now thats hating.

[nightsblood]

as far from perfect as the current nyc graffiti scene is, at least it still has one, with thousands of writers at that. in a lot of mid size cities that once had strong scenes, graff is on life support with the number of active writers in the low double digits and very little graff visible to the public.

most cities in the US(that had graffiti at the time) were much more bombed in 1994 than they are today.

[The optick one]

:cool: I LOVE NY and So do all other countries who trying to get up or get over on what NY created....
STYLE!:cool: :cool: :scrambled:
Thats why we have inovators in all angles of style.

The Oldschool is the truest skool.
So be kool and stay inskool.
Yet NY is now being invaded by many different influences. But if you look at graffiti history dating back to trains to the late 80s, STYLE WAS AT ITS HIGHEST.
REAL ACTION PACT GRAFF.:o

[dirty dinero]

Plain and simple new york iss past its prime in everything involving the streets or hiphop.

Traveling the boroughs makes me sick at all the generic throwups that haven't seen a new style in years. A few writers here and there are notable but most are just ajumbled bunch of cookie cutter no purpose wannabe's. This also goes for ny's hustle game. I'm not saying its cool or w.e to sell drugs and be violent but ny heads swear they got prices, and or they're so fuckin hard cause they're from ny when fact of the matter is I see them comin jersey side to cop weight all the time and on top of that there's a few gritty neighborhoods left in the whole five boroughs. Jersey side keeps it way grittier in thue streets and will always be a step ahead in keeping it realistic and in style.

So if ya from ny. Suck my jersey balls and don't talk shit unless you wanna come jersey side and get it in.

P.s. All insults and "noob" comments welcome from behind the times new yorkers.
2o1

[IrishCarBombs]

hahah dirty jersey kids talking hahaha

[low5]

his balls are extra salty. cause hes from jerz yo.

[Warholisdead]

I got the idea that NYC was a ruff city, but all the guys I painted with where cool as shit.

I have been all over in the last few months, and the thing is dude who got up, are up because they are cool, and paint like pros. Toys talk trash about them and build drama. each city has haters, and the outcome is NYC just has more of them.

[hatetown]

movement, it sounds like you have something against NYC writers or the way they conduct themselves online.
graff writers across the US of A are cheap-ass, whiney, rude, self-absorbed assholes.
i'm one myself.
they use local slang, are generally xenophobic (Xenophobia is a fear or contempt of foreigners or strangers) and express it regularly.

lots of places are full of assholes. dallas and houston i've lived in and known plenty of assholes.
atlanta has assholes.
miami has assholes.
LA, san francisco, oakland has assholes.

it's universal.

Houston is just full of toys who don't want to bother learning their histories and just get fame from going over veteran writers..or toys who are just ignorant which is the worst.

[earl broclo ESQ]

just keep everything on an individual level, and don't let retarded fuckers with store bought perceptions ruing something you love. just stick with who you know, what you know, and don't worry about anything that is said on the internet forums. these things shouldn't be taken seriously when it comes to bullshit egos and beef. if you've got shit to say to someone, you better be able to back it up and say it to their face. if you want to start beef with someone, go over them, don't sit at your computer saying "you suck fag." fuck the keyboard, it isn't shit but a pussy's tool for beef.

edit: this isn't directed at anyone on here, it's just a generalization of what seems to be the topic of this thread.

[TubeSockTerror]

new york sucks and is full of homos

[MitchThe$nitch]

i heard that was true^

[KARE?]

woahhhhhhhhh crossed the line there

[Theo.Huxtable]

Whats not to understand. Im asking the general public, do they think New York City is the biggest hating city in graf.

Meaning is New York full of haters that diss everyone's shit wether its good graf or bad. They dont let out of town shit run bombing or productions.

New York mentality is hating on anyone not from there.

To me im not impressed with New Yorks current stable of writers representing. Piecing there almost non-existent. The bombing will always be on point from new york style and tradition wise. But Why so much hating even from the bombers.

Its just a question. This is the only city i have been to that acts like this.


yes new york pretty much hates on anyone that isn't from ny. this applies to both rap and graff. i mean just take what earsnot said in that infamy documentary when looking at a wall filled with names -- "they're not from new york so they don't matter." and i don't even think a lot of new yorkers realize they're dissing when they carry this attitude; i mean i don't really think earsnot sees that as a diss he just sees hating out-of-towners as routine as blowing your nose or shaving in the morning. it's just the whole attitude and arrogance that comes with being a new yorker.

[facemeltAAARGH]

HEY NOW!

Its not our fault that New Yorkers 'hate' on most out-of-towners who try and get up in our city. And Im speaking based on my experience.


Don't get me wrong, I think its great that other writers from other towns are trying to get up at one of the hottest (and I mean police-wise) city around, but all of the out-of-towners that I've met through my friends are fucking assholes who start shit with other writers in our city.

So, basically, they start shit, and we get the blame for it. That aint cool.



Id appreciate it if you come to my city and showed a little more respect, and if you keep it up then maybe we wouldnt be so skeptical when it comes to an out-of-town writer.


Fucking tools. But like what Earl said, lets just all keep it in an individual level.

[Motion1]

New York : Full of inbred writer's that are mediocre at best. It's like people fighting over piles of shit; the winner get's shit and the loser gets his ass kicked. Few pioneer's in New York and those that are, leave. New York's been on a downward slope for many years, and it's going lower and lower. "Graffiti Crew's" made of cat's whove seen one too many Marc Ecko commerical's or started by playing that 'Gettin' Up' game. Tools that carry guns because they feel some personal disrespect because someone threw a hand up over throw that was wack to begin with.

[stop the lies]

yes new york pretty much hates on anyone that isn't from ny. this applies to both rap and graff. i mean just take what earsnot said in that infamy documentary when looking at a wall filled with names -- "they're not from new york so they don't matter." and i don't even think a lot of new yorkers realize they're dissing when they carry this attitude; i mean i don't really think earsnot sees that as a diss he just sees hating out-of-towners as routine as blowing your nose or shaving in the morning. it's just the whole attitude and arrogance that comes with being a new yorker.

this response hit it right on the head. that scene is so large that it engulfs pretty much everything in the city. pretty much every writer in ny has grown up surrouded by graffiti so anything anyone brings in to the city they have most likely seen it a million times. cities like that dont need to look at other areas scenes for influence. on the east coast in the US most of our influences come from ny. they know it and thats why most of them have that attitude like earsnot etc...

[vgacrew]

You can go to a lot of cities and make your presence known pretty easily... It takes a lot more in NYC (its not just bombing Williamsburg and LES or posting your flix on 12oz.)... The city is so big and so bombed that you really need to put in years of work to get some kind of recognition... Don't come from the west coast and think you can just stomp out 10 fillins with a FONT and not catch beef here...

For example, JAM came through and did his thing (in MANHATTAN) finding mostly virgin spots and not beefing w/ locals and painting dolo... But, personally, I still haven't seen him up in the other boroughs...

[facemeltAAARGH]

Word^


On the other note; all you fuckin 'new york haters' are such fucking morons... ANY fucking state with a big graff game hates and is filled with inbred mediocre assholes. So, if you're going to disrespect NY writers via a stereotype, then you might as well quit the game, ya fucking tools.

[Spraycan Art]

Stagnancy and Subtraction took three steps backwards and added nothing.

[NightmareOnElmStreet]

I got the idea that NYC was a ruff city, but all the guys I painted with where cool as shit.

I have been all over in the last few months, and the thing is dude who got up, are up because they are cool, and paint like pros. Toys talk trash about them and build drama. each city has haters, and the outcome is NYC just has more of them.


this is the most logical response in this thread. however. new york is not the cake taker on haterism. take a stroll through boston..

[earl broclo ESQ]

boston is a haters paradise. you might get fucked with if you wear a boston hat at a yankee's game. but you might get beatdown by some drunk from revere if you wear a yankee's cap at a boston game. there definitely is a fucking nut job mentality in the boston area. i kind of miss it.

[flixstar]

lol

[atdibloodbrother]

new york style is fucking played out.

put it on a marc ecko shirt and get it the fuck away from me.

[26VALENCIA]

Word^


On the other note; all you fuckin 'new york haters' are such fucking morons... ANY fucking state with a big graff game hates and is filled with inbred mediocre assholes. So, if you're going to disrespect NY writers via a stereotype, then you might as well quit the game, ya fucking tools.

true...every city is full of scum bags...here in SF alot of "locals" arent even from here but from places like seattle and LA. Some writers are chill...alot are assholes with big egos, and if you come around rocking LA or NY tags in your fillins prepare to get ragged by one of the hundreds of haters


stop worrying about haters and worry about yourself...dont be a fucking tool or a disrespectful jerkoff and you should do fine, this applies to every city in the USA not just new york

[Saul Rosenberg]

Most NYC writers dont even like each other, forget about them liking anyone else.

[Zed_Resurrected]

i think what NY graffiti has become is kind of lame. but its new york. nothing will ever better than it simply because without its history there would be no europe trains, no freights no heavens no any of the shit you think is so badass in graffiti. none of that would exist if it wasnt for New York City. so even in its currently lame state you just kind of let them get that one....NY deserves it, even if the current generation of writers may not, deserve it in your opinion.

[Mercer2789]

There is still dope stuff here trust me. The younger generation is promoting their stuff harder than ever and allot of them have allot of dope shit running as well.

[IrishCarBombs]

new york style is fucking played out.

put it on a marc ecko shirt and get it the fuck away from me.

hahahaha your a son

[NATIVESMOKES]

i figure there mad ucz there broke

[renave]

Wow definately all good reads, more or less we still need haters and supporters in order to keep the fresh and different styles flowin....

[renave]

hahahaha the mean streets of boston!

[renave]

i think what NY graffiti has become is kind of lame. but its new york. nothing will ever better than it simply because without its history there would be no europe trains, no freights no heavens no any of the shit you think is so badass in graffiti. none of that would exist if it wasnt for New York City. so even in its currently lame state you just kind of let them get that one....NY deserves it, even if the current generation of writers may not, deserve it in your opinion.


DEPRESSING BUT TRUE

[cfc]

london appears from all the shit talking to be veery hateful and all the needless beef from the years of doing it and hearing other beef.

[xteriormotive]

For the first part, the stolen part im not sure if it was ever your scene maybe from a hip hop standpoint the whole coming together of rap dance and graf, but from a graf standpoint this is what im talking about.

Its a well known fact that graffiti was established at the same point or before by los angeles gangs. This is debateable and im not sure if i would waste my time on that argument. But the fact that the elitist mentality of writers in general whether new york or not, have me thinking about where did this all start and why.

In my days bombers chilled with piecers and piecers chilled with bombers everyone that was a real writer was respected period. Cities didnt mean shit. If you repped u repped. I can go on but im headed to dinner.

And the 2nd part yes you are and you earned that right.rap dance??? Its called breaks dickhead.

[ista]

So if ya from ny. Suck my jersey balls and don't talk shit unless you wanna come jersey side and get it in.

So let me get this straight, you want me to waste my time going to your sewer of a state to slap you like a beeotch you are because your mom is too scared to give your bridge and tunnel ass a few bucks to take the bus into town?

Grow a sack, row your pansy trailer park ass to this side of the hudson, get up and get noticed, and maybe then you'll be taken seriously on this side.

[Q718]

Most NYC writers dont even like each other, forget about them liking anyone else.

yup thats the truth

[thehaze]

From What i have seen on this Site, it seems that way.

new yorkers have an inflated egos because they think they started this whole graffiti thing, even though king cornbread from phillie was the first person to bomb. so they seem to hate everyone who isnt one of them, and then they hate each other too. so i guess you could be right, but i dont think you can narrow it down to one city. la has a lot of beef too. its all personal opinion

[facemeltAAARGH]

This shit is still going?


Fuck it, graffiti wouldnt be where it is right now without hate... so thank New York. Again. :lol:

[the_gooch]

They dont let out of town shit run bombing or productions.

New York mentality is hating on anyone not from there.

To me im not impressed with New Yorks current stable of writers representing. Piecing there almost non-existent. The bombing will always be on point from new york style and tradition wise.




i've seen plenty of shit from "out of towners" running in ny. it's a race for space or beef, that is the reason shit gets gone over.

i can't help but laugh at the "Piecing there almost non-existent." comment. are you kidding?? i'm not going to sit here and type out a list of who's who. you are obviously out of the loop. do a little more research and dig around a bit, i think you'll see different real quick.

[PLUTONER]

if I had a choice to bomb in new york or la, id prob go with la cause im into hittin slick freeway spots, new york would be fun cause im sure there are some nice roofs and street hits available, but my shit is prob more likely to get crossed out or gone over in ny cause out of towners get no love

[BlackbookKWC]

Its Dc easy

word...DC people alllllways hate unless your "crew" even if your shit is doper than theirs.

-and before anybody wants to get a few slick words out i live in DC so i know what im talkin a bout.

[the sun y el sol]

new yorkers hate on eachother duke

the rat race extends to all facets of life here.


guaranteed for every 5 nyc bombers you see in magazines or on videos or on the streets(scenesters),theres about 15 other kids that you have no idea about that keep their shit private and unique and fresh. not everyone is out for fame,at least graffiti-wise.


nyc and the surrounding metropolitan area is hugeee

20 million people in a 20 mile radius.

[renave]

YOU MAKE ME SICK!

[DRUNKEN-ASSHOLE-ONER]

Philly might rival NYC in the hate department.

[Cracked Ass]

If you're not from New York, why does it concern you how they run their biz? Would you like them to change up their attitudes and styles and create the graff utopia you'd like it to be when you come visit? The game there is what it is, deal with it. I rolled through a few times, did minor stuff in minor places, didn't go over anything, most of the shit ran a while. No problem.

[ILOTSMYBRAIN]

Word, Cracked.

I'm pretty sure though that most people hate on people who aren't from where they are. Regardless of where you are. NY is just a much bigger market. Not to mention the most important. So it's just on a much larger scale.

Of course this doesn't apply to everyone and everywhere, it depends on the person's mentality. You also have to understand a lot of people are just stupid.

I still love it here.

[Zed_Resurrected]

If you're not from New York, why does it concern you how they run their biz? Would you like them to change up their attitudes and styles and create the graff utopia you'd like it to be when you come visit? The game there is what it is, deal with it. I rolled through a few times, did minor stuff in minor places, didn't go over anything, most of the shit ran a while. No problem.

"the horrifying percision of the truth"

and yes the concept that came to be known later as bombing (which was coined by NY writers) was created in philly. but if it wasnt for new york you wouldnt even know about it, neither would the rest of the world. im all for giving philly its props from being first (well hobos were really first, but thats another story), but NY is responsible for the expansion.
like cracked said, deal with it.

[businessOnly]

I know a bunch of NYC writers, all of them cool dudes.

[idontcareandimnotsorry]

By far, Miami is the biggest hating city in the United States...

Have you noticed that there is no longer a Miami thread?

"Writers" from Miami are brought up to be the finest haters of them all. And, you kinda have to admire them for it... Not only are they all-out haters (especially on 12 oz), but you will find that many of these "writers" will attach photoshopped images below their posts to illustrate their shit-talk.

As far as the streets in Miami, if it doesn't get buffed, it will be dissed. No where else have I seen kids going back and forth over each other on heavens at least 8+ times in one week, or people getting shot at when trying to go over someone else.

Also, in Miami (and other places too, I'm sure), many people follow "Guilt through association." If you're cousin's, boyfriend's older brother is down with the "enemies," so are you - and your shit is getting gone over.

[R0SK01 BX]

ALL I NOE IS THAT, WE AINT GOTTA HATE CUZ WE CREATED GRAFF AND NOWHERE ELSE WOULD HAVE IT WITHOUT US... Yall's is the haters up in dis bitch, NO LIE all other styles is WHACK! for some exceptions... COME SEE ME...

[Porcelain]

here on the west coast.

toys catch fame by hacking dope shit.
well this is true everywhere.
but. in the particular area code where im from. mother fuckers like to diss everything.
everything everything. and hate on everyone. calling skilled writers toys. when dudes handstyle looks like a 1st grader wrote it .

[R0SK01 BX]

EXACTLY, ova in da BX its strictly your a Stylized writer or you dont exist...

[GucciCondom]

Mostly us Philly cats are on some "fuck you if you can't do a wicket" type shit.

I'd say Philly, NY and Cali are pretty strong in wanting to keep shit to the natives.

[FUCKMUNI]

this is a stupid fucking thread.....every city in the world has haters...graffiti would be a lame sissy game without beef. shit i hack out people all the time too....its fun hackin niggas the fuck out.


the basic rule should be...if your gonna go bomb in someone elses backyard, show respect, dont go over locals, dont piss off locals and your shit should run.

[FUCKMUNI]

Mostly us Philly cats are on some "fuck you if you can't do a wicket" type shit.

I'd say Philly, NY and Cali are pretty strong in wanting to keep shit to the natives.

i love philly shit...the bay always shows love whenever philly cats roll through. i hope i can run thru philly one of these years, wickets are real similar to SF 'oneflows' except wickets are oneflows on crack....dope ass handstyles

[CACashRefund]

ALL I NOE IS THAT, WE AINT GOTTA HATE CUZ WE CREATED GRAFF AND NOWHERE ELSE WOULD HAVE IT WITHOUT US... Yall's is the haters up in dis bitch, NO LIE all other styles is WHACK! for some exceptions... COME SEE ME...

we got the graff historian in da houze!!!!!

[R0SK01 BX]

In new york, you dont have to research graff, its a given... Usuallly you gotta noe shit to do graff in NY...

[CACashRefund]

Is that in the ny graffiti handbook?

[R0SK01 BX]

You tryin to be funny cuz it seems your hating now.....

[androidx]

Probably, I didn't read the post you're referring to, but I've noticed everyone seems to hate on you after you post. Get the point yet?

[CACashRefund]

You tryin to be funny cuz it seems your hating now.....

Oh you mad cause im stylin on you

[Movement and Mathmatics]

Didnt think this question would last this long.

[rokstar]

I'd say new york is second to philly.. I spent some time in that city and it is 99% haters

[R0SK01 BX]

Thats prolly cuz you met the toys of NY, you dont jus run into real bombers in ny... VS is most strong in NY because this is where it came from, so the real writers are ghosts in which to know them you have to know them...

And no one is mad here, jus sayin your contradicting the forum's topic of hating by being sarcastic tward my comment...

[CACashRefund]

You udd mad dunny

[Hullucination]

i didnt have any problems when i went to ny last summer. most writers that i met were good people. but i did get in alot of arguments about chicago pizza vs ny pizza. it felt like i was in yankee stadium with a boston hat on hahaha, but either way ny is cool with me.

[R0SK01 BX]

What where the writers you met?

[BlackbookKWC]

Oh you mad cause im stylin on you

PUNCH IN THE FACE. (no diss..cats who havent seen the battle wouldnt understand):cool:

[Zed_Resurrected]

yeah...thats the joint..havent seen that shit in a while.

[ALLCITYKING]

new yorkers hate on eachother duke

the rat race extends to all facets of life here.


guaranteed for every 5 nyc bombers you see in magazines or on videos or on the streets(scenesters),theres about 15 other kids that you have no idea about that keep their shit private and unique and fresh. not everyone is out for fame,at least graffiti-wise.


nyc and the surrounding metropolitan area is hugeee

20 million people in a 20 mile radius.

REALTALK! well put.

[street officer]

hell yea we da biggest if i saw any onez ugly ass shit next ta mine im a a take em out same goes for every one thatz down with my crewz

[a kid growin up]

Graffiti is all about egos. Anyone self centered enough to write their name on other peoples shit and think somebody will like it has to be an egotistical douche bag. I'm one and you are too. With abunch of people painting on limited space theres bound to be some hateres. Every city has them. I think its unfair to say one city has more than another one, though there are some idiots that think that "if its not from new york its not graff."

[La Bomba]

yall aint nyc. period

[FACTORY_MADE]

yall aint nyc. period

word

and as far as why alot of nykers seem to dislike out of towners
from my experience
its because although you may think all your texture and lighting effects are cool
your letters still suck

[allyouseeiscrimeinnyc]

new york is where the subway movement started. New york is the illest if your an out of towner you dont deserve to have your spot rock the second your flight departs NYC is rockin ur spots. New york city is the illest. You tourists needa get out!

[gasfacevictm]

That's what everybody in NY says in rap and graff.
I say whatever.
Philly trumps NY day in day out.
Haters

[ignorance_isnt_bliss]

chicago hands down.

[BlackbookKWC]

That's what everybody in NY says in rap and graff.
I say whatever.
Philly trumps NY day in day out.
Haters

trumps...haha thats a pun...theres another one

[fatpussyforacocksucker]

theres just so many people doing shit there that its very likely for them to have more people mad at each other or more people to get mad at. so it would only make sense for them to have more haters. theres more people.