Mixing paint

[cracked ass]

OK, here's how I do it. Props to beardo and hyena for much of what's below.

The first step is to obtain an ordinary Bic ball point pen, preferably empty. Tear it open, take out the inkwell (again, it needs emptying). Cut a 1 and 1/2 inch to 2 inch length of dry inkwell. This is your mixing tube. Cut 2 notches in each end with an exacto knife or razor blade. The notches should closely resemble those found on the bottom of the stem of any fat cap. Next, with the razor, lightly whittle the ends down until they fit the valve of the cans you want to mix.
Now pick a spot to mix: one where a long-range paint splash will not be a serious problem. This is very rare but can happen, especially with very old cans bought from discount stores. Get 2 buckets, one for icewater and the other for hot/boiling water, and fill em. (Don't fill the hot one until you're ready to mix.)
Cans: the can you want to RECEIVE paint goes in the freezer. Metal and paint solvents conduct heat very well, which means you only need 20 or 30 minutes chilling time for a can. Once that can is cold, fill your hot water bucket. Gently connect the receiving can to the donor can with the mixing tube, with the cold can upside down and on top, then lower the pair so the donor can goes in the hot water bucket. Now push the cans together, which opens both valves. Paint will foosh from the hot (donor) can to the cold (receiver) can. If you made your mixing tube too long it will likely fold or pop out when you push the cans together.
When the hissing stops, pull the cans apart. You're all mixed up.
A few odd pointers:
1.You can combine dreg cans into one full can with this technique. However, after each dreg is added, immerse the receiver can in the icewater to cool the hot paint just added, then heat the next can.
2.The hot water doesn't need to be boiling, go easy on that or you might get more pressure up than you want (bursting). During a long mixing session I'll freshen it up with more boiling water when it gets too lukewarm to work right.
3.If cross-mixing brands or metallics (metallics don't mix well), first test compatibility by spraying a little of each inside a can cover or something, if they separate there then they won't mix in the can either.

I'll think of more tips to add later, and prompt me with ?'s on whatever is unclear to ya.

[falseoneBIC!]

I asked this before the site shut down but what colours make good for a white person?

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[cracked ass]

4.Some complain "that's too much work, you can mix with just two WD-40 caps with the red tube between em, the tube that comes with WD-40 cans". This is true but the bore on the Bic inkwell is ten times larger than the WD-40 tube so one mix takes a lot longer with the WD-40 method. The Bic tube rocks, mixes take a few seconds to maybe 30 or 40 seconds for long transfers of whole cans.
5.When mixing Krylon, remember that any colors that are too watery for your liking can be simultaneously thickened and turned a lighter shade by mixing with flat white. Plenty of cool pastel colors emerge this way.
6.Don't fret about a rainbow selection of dreg cans, just mix em all together, sometimes dope colors result. I got a pink so hot it's almost fluorescent - from cherry red, flat white, a little bit of true blue and some rose or something, I can't figure the exact recipe now.
7.For a neat display of what you have for mix colors, paint up a can cover with your new color and pop it on the can.

[SPLINTER]

thanx for the info. I really needed it cuz I was doint the hot water shit wrong. I would get the water ready way before I was ready to mix.

[cracked ass]

Painter's Touch soft peach is OK by itself for Caucasian flesh. Or, mix a little flat white into Krylon Farm & Implement John Deere Yellow. I know that doesn't sound right but it works. A lot of color mixes yield surprising results, it's not always what you'd expect.

[cracked ass]

8.Pressure is higher in full cans than less full ones. As you add dreg cans to one receiver can it will get harder to add more. To cram those last few dregs into an almost-full can, use fresh boiling water to heat the dreg, right after holding the receiver can in the icewater for a minute or two. You can also take the receiver can, put a tip on it, turn it upside down, and let out some gas, which lowers the pressure a bit and gives you room for a bit more dregs.
Also, use these procedures if a donor can doesn't quite empty all the way. Chill the receiver, heat the dreg again, and connect em again and that last little bit will go.

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[soma]

thanks for the thread cracked, now i gots much work to do.
appreciate the info..

[cracked ass]

My pleasure, soma, I love jawing about this topic in particular.
Now the lighter side: one time I wanted to mix with this old can of harvest yellow appliance epoxy (Krylon) I picked up cheap. The can was so old that the rubber around the valve had become brittle, and the mixing tube wouldn't go. Also the first spray on the can yielded this play-doh like goo which clogged the cap. I went to clean the goo out of the valve with a needle-tipped tool. I pressed a little too hard and puctured the valve area and the can started spewing uncontrollably out the top. It took me less than two seconds to decide that I ought to buff my practice sheetrock wall immediately. So I coated the wall with the entire can until it ran out.
Later that day I noticed a Railbox freight car parked in a good spot, which was precisely that harvest yellow color, so I went home and worked out a dope color scheme on the buffed wall, then took it to the steel. Worked great, for what started as a disaster.

[Matt Styles]

Wow...i just find the whole hot water/cold water thing kinda tedious. I just turn one can upside down and let some of the pressure out (sometimes most of it) to lower the pressure. I also use the WD40 Technique...however an actual wD40 straw is VERY thin but I found this nice carb cleaner at the auto store with a nice straw thats a little wider. After letting some of the pressure out connect both cans to the mixing tip, making sure to hold the donor can upright and the receiving can upside down and spray at the same time. I'm actually working on a diagram thing for a school assignment I'll post it on the web somewhere when I finish it. Say word!

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[Mr.Raven]

One time I had a sunset orange sitting out in the sun when we were doing a spot in the middle of summer. I heard a big pop sound and turned to notice the top had shot about 20 feet up into the air and the can was shooting a stream of paint a good six feet high for a few moments. Damn thing looked like a friggen volcano. The can was super old (obviously) but I've never seen it happen since. Luckily it was meant as an outline color and I had two cans of it. I did have to pretty much get my strokes right on the first shot to get the can to last the whole piece. The piece was the one that I printed with the purple background I did with Rear, Teal and Cove a while back.

[THE HYENA]

sunset orange.......mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm

[cracked ass]

I feel bad for old cans, all that pent up creative power sitting under pressure for ten , fifteen, twenty years...it wears on the can. The metal corrodes and fatigues, the rubber seal gets brittle...kind of sad, and conducive to the situation Raven described. The sun probably softened the goo that had hardened just inside the valve, and the valve itself was so beat down by the years of sitting around that the hard goo was the only thing holding the paint in.
If the human race were to be suddenly wiped out by plague, we'd leave this odd legacy, among others: stores that carried spraypaint, all crumbling and home to squirrels and pigeons, and like twenty years after the plague cans finally start giving out structurally and jetting all over the birds roosting atop the paint rack...

[NESC ONER]

YO Cracked Ass your name should be Cracked out.LOL j/k
peace
Nesc 2

[mr.e]

kinda of subject.....but my favorite mixed color is painters touch board brown mixed with rusto fire engine red....comes out to a sort of lighter maroonish color

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[antik]

dayum! thanks for the info!! i sure couldav used this lesson a long time ago. where the hell have i been?

oh yeah... the middle of nowhere. duh, me.

thanks all, for the info.

- antik/RAW/ILL

[stlpride]

has anybody else ever had a problem mixing a rusto can into a krylon can? for some reason it'll only transfer paint for the first couple seconds, then the rest of the time it's only moving air from can to can. i've taken the whole hot/cold thing to the extreme and it still won't work right for me. when i'm going from krylon to kyrlon, it's works great. and another thing i noticed, every bic inkwell i've ever tried to use is too skinny for the valves. i've found papermate inkwells work better and they're a little bit wider in diameter, which means it could move paint a little bit faster, but i doubt it's be very noticeable campared to the bic.

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[SPLINTER]

in the PAINT SECTION someone else dtalks about the RUSTO-KRYLON TRANSFER it worked great for them so if you have a problem with it talk to them.

i found the BIC INKWELLS too big for my KRYLONS.

[Mr.Raven]

ape shall not kill ape...

[cracked ass]

That's weird that we got 2 different size issues on the Bic inkwells. They should be just slightly too big at first, which is where the notching and whittling comes in. There's several types of Bic pens so maybe whoever found em too small had a different type. The ones I use are the cheap, $1 per ten-pack, blue or black ball points with the round white casing, or the see-through ones with the round pointy cap. Again, they have to be whittled down a bit to fit the valves.

[Raw fish]

whats the best way to empty the ink out of the pen?? I havent tried it yet, but I am planing on it this afternoon - I dont want to end up with an enrite bic pen all over my shirt... I gave up the nerd look long ago...

[cracked ass]

My first tube I made, I ripped the inkwell out of the pen, sliced the length I needed even though some ink was still in there, whittled down the dry end, stuck it in the valve of a full can and pushed it down (just for a second)...the ink and some paint jetted across the room. Better idea: hold the can upside down before depressing the tube, it'll blast it out with gas rather than paint.

[SPLINTER]

JUST BLOW AIR INTO IT THE IN WILL DRIP OUT AND THEN DO THE CAN THING.

[keamsone]

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[keamsone]

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Reply to "cracked ass":

What up "cracked ass"?! I was wondering if I could possibly use your explanation of how to mix paint on my webpage because I have encountered many inqueries in which writers ask me to post a step by step list of how to do it. I feel that your explanation would be perfect for this and would like your permission to use it (I would place "submited by 'cracked ass'" or whatever you want giving you credit). Thanks. Please email at [email protected]

Peace,
KeamsWon
Beyond Extreme inc.

[webmaster]

Keams,

In order to avoid having people post graphics in this particular forum HTML coding is turned off. You can use UBB code (go to faq link for info), but only THE BENCH forum allows HTML.

[cracked ass]

Go right ahead keams, no problem.

[Ski Mask]

ok, I think I'm gonna have to do this the old fashion way and use cracked ass' directions. I bought those mixtips that xylene sells, and lemme tell you, I'm glad I wore gloves and an apron cause the paint went everywhere but in the can! The directions they give say to chill one can for 20-30 minutes in the freezer, connect the two cans and press down, I did just that and paint was spraying everywhere, when I let go there was a pool of paint in the top of the cold can that I had to literally pour out. Now I might have just got a bunk tip, or maybe this takes more practice, but I'm pretty pissed right now. Anyone using those mixtips beware...

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[Smart]

Hot tip of the day:
mix inside of bread bags, or sandwich bags from Subway for a little more containment, in case of emergency

[cracked ass]

Good point. When mixing the way I outlined, use a long skinny plastic bag with the end cut open. Put it like a sleeve over the vulnerable area when making the tube connection.
Ese, any of several things could have been screwy to get the mess you described. Try the same rig on a few different donor and receiver cans. One bad valve will ruin everything for that can and that can only. Old cans are notorious for having brittle or shrunken rubber inside the valve. If a regular cap that should fit that can goes in hard or not at all, you may be disfiguring the rubber part of the valve, which causes all sorts of leaks during any subsequent mixing or ordinary spraying.
Also, it could be a timing issue, you need to depress both caps on the mixtip firmly and simultaneously or one end will start gushing. Remember that although the cold can is lower pressure than the hot can, both cans still have positive pressure compared to the outside air, and will spew at any provocation.
Were these both Krylon cans, or two different brands or what?

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[antik]

i just gotta say thanks for the info on mixing paint. ive hooked up a coupla of my buddies with the info, and its been one of the greatest bits of graf info weve come across. thanks!

[HESHIANDET]

If you straight bomb with only 2 colors you'll never have to worry about mixing paint http://www.12ozprophet.com/ubb//smile.gif.Seriously i've come up with some crazy colors mixing...everyone should give it a go.

[SPLINTER]

bump for SKA

[cracked ass]

OK, I know I started this thread but now I'M stumped. I need to know what people are using to mix Rusto to Rusto. All the stuff I've described above works fine with Krylon but I only tried Rusto to Krylon cans once or twice, a while ago, with mixed results. I did a 3-hour session today with Rusto to Rusto and absolutely nothing worked: the mixing tube, temperature variations, nothing. All I did was waste 3 cans of paint (sunburst yellow, autumn gold, and half a festival green, I was so mad I put my foot through some sheetrock and smashed a lamp). Paint left the cans real easy but refused to enter the cold cans.
Just to make sure I was doing it the same way as before, I tried a quick Krylon to Krylon mix with the same tube, and it worked fine, no leaks.
So, beardo or anyone else with experience: what do I have to do differently to mix Rusto?

[Smart]

cracked, I am CERTAINLY no authority on this, but, if I were you, I would mix rusto + rusto into a krylon can, like a 2 step process, 1st, inject some Rusto into the Krylon can, then repeat the chill on the Krylon and mix the second Rusto in as well... perhaps there is a way to mix Rusto/Rusto, but with the behavior of the cans and they're refusal (until recently for me) to accept my NY's, the Krylon can has seemed to be the best container, while, obviously the Rusto is by far the better paint... anyway, just a suggestion, hope it helped...

[Smart]

p.s...

Originally posted by cracked ass:
I guess I'm winning the mellowness contest tonight...walked a half hour to a night train spot, train was there, just about had my car picked out, the air starts going, train rolls off 3 minutes later, walked a half hour home...ho hum...(shrug) http://www.12ozprophet.com/ubb//redface.gif

temper, temper, hahaha...

[cracked ass]

No shit, I definitely slipped in the rankings for the mellowness today...one of those fucking days is all, but damn, I hate to waste festival green, I can't find it anymore http://www.12ozprophet.com/ubb//mad.gif http://www.12ozprophet.com/ubb//frown.gif

[Smart]

Cracked, I FULLY sympathize, Big Lots around here had practically an ENTIRE shelf at one point about 2 months ago, I've been kinda broke, so I just bought it as I needed it, maybe an extra here or there, but then one day I walk in and find 3 cans left, needless to say I bought them, but they were already earmarked for a special piece, so now I have about 3/4's of a can and can't find it anywhere... I LOVE that color, and I wanted to try to start mixing with some other colors than white and black...

[merlinone]

yo cracked, good lookin out on the mixing shit...i've been trying to figure it out for a while, i just never figured it out, but i was just trying to do it this afternoon and i shot a 20 foot stream of pisatchio across my back porch and i hit the window of my fuckin garage, shits just sittin there now, and i wasted a whole can of paint tryin to do it...maybe i'm confused or i just fucked sumthin up, which can is the one you want to hold upside down...the reciver or the donar, and do u actually boil the water cuz i tryed taking some hot water from the tub but it didn't seem hot enough...and what are some phat green mixes you came up with or anyone, cuz i think green is the shit...much love
-merlin ksa...

[cracked ass]

Use boiling or almost boiling water. You don't need much, half a gallon at most, I put it in a low square plastic basin/bucket type thing, like they sell as part of a set to do dishes in the sink with.
The cold can, which will be receiving, goes on top, and the donor can sits right in the hot water bath. Again, the hot water doesn't need to be deep.
Also, there's no need for paint to be squirting 20 feet. The only time paint might spray out is as you push the cans together, and the spray won't go anywhere if you're using a plastic sleeve over both the cans, like a Wonder bread bag with the end cut off.

[Ouija]

Ok. I mix a lot of paint, and I think I have it down pretty good. (mixing two cans to the same color isn't a problem) Everything is good with the explanation on how to do it. Personally, I searched around for thicker mixing tubes, and ended up finding some sort of textured ceiling spray that had three sizes of mixing tubes. The largest is a blueplastic tube probably almost 1/4 inch thick. They have them at Lowe's, Home Depot, and some other assorted hardware stores. They work pretty good.
Another neat trick I saw somewhere is to pull the inserts out of two stocks, and melt, or otherwise fuse, the two together so that it creates a joiner for two cans. This way, you kind of hump two cans together, the one on top should be the reciever can, sine once the paint goes below the level of the tube inside, it'll only spray out air. Just set a can on the ground and push the other one onto it, so there's an open flow between.
The purpose of heating and cooling the paint is to manipulate the pressure in the can. Anyone who's been painting for at least a year will know that paint pressure is more powerful in hot weather. The reason for this is similar to the way air seems to get thicker, and harder to breathe, in a hot enclosed room. Heat creates pressure. Cold reduces pressure. Muggy days are hot. At higher altitudes, air is colder and thinner. Thus, when trying to convert paint from a pressurized can to another, temperature plays a large role, and is probably more important than what size stem you have conducting paint. Rusto is very hard to mix, unless you have a very thick stem o pass it through, due to the fact that they use a heavy fish oil as their paint base. That's also why rusto takes forever to dry and why it covers better.

Ouija the goddam scientist.

[advent]

Originally posted by cracked ass:
Use boiling or almost boiling water. You don't need much, half a gallon at most, I put it in a low square plastic basin/bucket type thing, like they sell as part of a set to do dishes in the sink with.



Instead of using a bucket/basin type deal I use two large plastic cups. They work just as well as a larger bucket and are easier to find. When heating my water i use my coffee machine. Just turn it on without coffee inside and the temp of the heated water seems to work rather well. Its quicker than waiting for water to boil. Just another technique.

[cracked ass]

Yeah beardo, I think overheating is your problem, it really doesn't take much pressure difference to get things moving from Krylon to Krylon. I've done lazy mixes where I just took a room temp full can and gotten enough of it to go into a cold half can, I didn't even need the heat. Just try toning down the water from boiling to just hot. I have run into just a few rare cans that don't want to go at all and I think their valves are fucked up.
Now if I could just get some Rusto mixed, that has not been working at all lately. Have you mixed Rusto before, and if so, what tube or other setup did you use? I can't get Rusto to go into another Rusto can.

[beardo]

never tried rusto to rusto..maybe try the wd-40 steez.

it must be the valves on my cans, cause i tried both with and without altering the temp. http://www.12ozprophet.com/ubb//frown.gif oh smell..piece worked out fine anyway. thanks

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[beardo]

hey cracked.. i was mixing a shit load of paint yestersday, and came accross an annoying problem. have you ever had cans that just flat out dont mix? i was using all krylon cans. i noticed that a couple flat white cans, pumpkin orange and rich plum just didnt wanna cooperate. you ever have this problem? i think it might have to do with OVER heating the can. on a few occasions i've had that mofo so hot i cant even hold the can. i've noticed that the rubber ring just inside the valve gets slightly expanded, could that be restricting the paint flow? i need to play with it some more, im mixing a bunch today also, so i'll to figure it out.

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[Rek]

I just mixed paint for the first time this weekend. Before I go on, you should all know I'm hella cheap. Okay, anyway, I could mix Wal-mart to Wal-mart with no problems whatso ever, but I couldn't get any walmart into Krylon cans. Now I knoe the paints don't mix too well, but all I really want to do is get some cheap Walmart paint into a Krylon can. Caps just work on krylon better. Okay. You can stop laughing at my cheap ass now.

[fr8oholic]

i started a thread on mixing jungle and pastel aqua but it wasn't much of a hit. i don't know if people just don't care or just don't care??
80oskie

[seeking]

i think they figure they have to act appalled and scoff in silence cause they either dont even know anyone that has those two colors, or cant figure out why anyone would want to mix them and make a new color that wouldnt be noticably "vintage".... either way i applaud it all....

[turnstyle]

cracked...if you add more paint to an already full can, when the temperature rises back up won't the heightened pressure be a bit dangerous? any experiences with bursting? should i let some paint or at least gas?

erf

[cracked ass]

I never add to a full can, period. I hear that it can hold an extra fifth or so, but then it sprays too hard and crazy at first. I either mix a couple of colors into an empty can or go from a full can into a half can. I get a lot of half cans from doing freights, and I top some of them off with another color.

[Secs Oner]

Ive been mixing paint for awhile now, and i have a few cans that have had freezer trips about 3-4 times now...

is there a limit that should be set before cans become dangerously explosive?

and if so.. am i close to getting blinded or limbs lacerated?

[Smart]

hahaha, just came in from a minor failure, seems the Hammerite Red is possesed, thin as hell, fucked up valve only takes stocks... anyway, I decided just to mix it into another color, and I hurriedly made a mixing tube, little long, but should work... HAHAHA, right, so the red escaped the sides of the stem and kinda exploded out the top of the bag a little and hit me in the face, I lean back and let go of the cans, but the tube is stuck in the red, so I have to fuck with it to stop it, now I've got dark red paint all over one hand and splattered on my face, did I mention that I'm wearing a scrub suit top? anyway, I was heading back up stairs to my apt. when I see the old lady across the way staring VERY suspiciously, so I waved with my red hand, then acted all secretive and covered my hand up and waved with the other...hehehe, she didn't wave back...

I gotta get outta here before the cops show up, hah... but I am off to paint

[Secs Oner]

hmm.. always remember to Point the mixing cuts away from you..

a great way to avoid paint in the eyes.

[cracked ass]

If you'd all read the earlier posts thoroughly, you'd be spared any sprayed paint whatsoever. Take a long skinny plastic bag (like a loaf of bread comes in, or some newspapers on a rainy day), and cut open the bottom. You now have a (mostly) see-through plastic sleeve. After gently getting both cans seated onto the mixing tube, but before pushing them together, slide this sleeve over the two cans, covering the gap between them. You can now grab the top (cold) can with one hand, and through the plastic you can grab the mixing tube and hold it steady while you push down on the top can. Anything sprays out, it stays inside the sleeve.

[fr8oholic]

i just cover the tops with a rag so that you don't get splattered when you disconnect.

on another note. i almost blew a can up in the bbq once. that boiling water shit takes a little to long somtimes. 20 seconds in a bbq and she's good to go. i'd recommend doing this with the bbq lid open. pop it on there and grab it every few seconds to see how hot it gets.

-they call me johnny dangerously.

[Smart]

cracked, I posted about the bag a while ago, shit just went all nuts... i think I even said, "out the top of the bag" in my post...

[Jumbola Herbal]

I am at the point where im makig the nozzle out of 2 stock tips with the white part removed, and a half inch BIC ball point ink well. I melt it all together and then when i get to the process of mixing the 2, my homeade nozzle just falls apart. This is really frustrating!!! FUCK!

[fr8oholic]

fuck the bic part. snag a red wd40 straw. they fit perfectly into the stock tips minus the nozzle. no adhesive. shove 'em in there and start mixing. cover the tops of the cans with a rag when you disconnect the two and have a look at what color you just made.

[Jumbola Herbal]

I've tried it and I can't od it that good... oh well

[fr8oholic]

the graff shop out here's got the mixing tips. they're really awesome. maybe you can ask if 12oz'll have em. i think they're 7 bucks but if you keep it clean you can't go wrong. they work much faster than the wd40 straw. i'm not really sure if that's an advantage or disadvantage yet.
'off like the prom dress.

[Ouija]

Ah kids! I got an idea, and I think I'll share. Ok. This will make you the ULTIMATE mixer for ANY brand of paint. Here's the process.

1. Empty out a can of paint with the biggest cap you can find. I'm talking empty. No aerosol in it at all. (The best kind of cap to use is called a marking tip. They come on some auto sprays and shit like that. It's a cap with no insert, just an large hole.) After that can is completely empty and ready to break open, punch a hole in it with some sharp object. Make sure there isn't any propellant left in the can. You should be able to crush the can in with your hands. Basically, what we're trying to do is get that straw from inside the can. Pull that thing out, and save the marble, because it's a cool little souvenir.

2. Get two stocks with the thick stems, so when you mix rusto, it doesn't shoot out the sides. Pop the inserts out with a knife. Remember, kiddies, always cut away from the body.

3. This is the tricky part. Now you have to drill out the holes in the caps so it can accomodate that big ass straw. If you're lucky, you'll have a vice or something to hold the cap while you drill. Make sure you use a bit that's the same size or just a tiny bit bigger, because too small won't do you any good.

4. After the holes are drilled, put the straw in the cap. Make sure it fits! If it's a little too big, you can nip that in the bud with some glue. Try to use a glue that bonds by melting the plastic, like super glue. That way, it won't come apart on you while mixing. Don't be stingy, but try not to glue yourself to the mix tube.

5. Now that you have the tubing assembled, widen the notch in the stem of the caps with an exacto knife, so the paint flows faster though the tube. I like to make one of the notches wider than the other so there's more pressure differential.

Now you have a bad ass paint mixer. If you're too lazy to make this, sorry.

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[corle one]

good idea

[Secs Oner]

Is there any brands of paint that dont work well when mixed together?

Because ive tried mixing differnt brands together, and sometimes come up with some weird textures.. like different shades seeping through or collecting around the edge..

are these due to bad chemical mixtures, or stupidity?

[23578]

i'm not sure you all know this one.

if, when the flow stops, you flip the hot to the top and shake the cold can (while they are still connected), like 2 seconds, you can get some more to flow.

[TeaMVCali]

I got a question ... if you got more then a can between the two your mixen .. will any paint overflow?

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[TeaMVCali]

I got a question ... if you got more then a can between the two your mixen .. will any paint overflow?

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[Blue]

I don't think the paint will over flow, I think since the one can is full it just won't allow any more paint in. I could be totally wrong but it seems to make sense to me.

[cracked ass]

There's no "overflow" in paint mixing unless your mixing tube is badly made and leaks at one or both ends. Then you have a mess. Otherwise, the two cans connected by the tube are a closed system...nothing gets in or out of the system. The only thing that happens is that the pressure equalizes between the cans, and that means paint flows from the can with the higher pressure (the hot can) to the one with lowere pressure (the cold can). Changing the pressure is the only reason you heat one can and chill the other. If you left the cans pushed together for an hour after mixing, and the hot can cooled off and the cold can warmed up, paint would start to flow back into the formerly hot can, until everything was room temperature, at which time there would be an equal amount of paint in both cans.

[AeRoSoL JuNkiE]

I mixed my paint and everything went good until i tried usin the mixed paint can. The paint came out but it ran outta pressure when i still had half a can left. Y'd that happen?

[Deviant_Oner]

Crack-ed...I am curious about a similar topic...I have a few cans that contain paint, but have no pressure. Is it possible to use the heating/cooling method to move pressure, but not paint into a can? I tried using canned air(Office cleaner) but the tip was too skinny.

-I'm eating chicken.

[cracked ass]

You can get a can of striping paint that will take a mixing tip (Rusto, Krylon), stand it UPRIGHT in a hot water bath and connect the cans. Striping paint is supposed to be used upside down, so when you spray it upright only gas comes out. If the striping can is full though a little of the paint will come with the gas in irregular spurts, so that may affect the shade of the other paint.
I have had no success trying to put the hot/donor can on top and the cold can on the ground, with regular cans, which is why I recommend the striping paint.

[advent]

Originally posted by cracked ass:
I have had no success trying to put the hot/donor can on top and the cold can on the ground, with regular cans, which is why I recommend the striping paint.

I believe the reason why you may not be achieving positive results is because there is a straw that goes down the middle of the can. The straw goes the corner of the bottom concave to ensure all the paint is able to be released. Thus, the donor can may not donate because the liquid may not reach the exit (the straw). At least i believe that is the way it works. Am i talking about the same thing.

werd

[seeking]

just take a couple cans that are empty of pain, but still have some pressure... it might take a couple but whatever, theyre empty, aint good for shit else..

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[popsicle]

A couple combinations of colors/brands that produce thick and appealing results are

True Blue(krylon) 50% + Flat White (krylon) 50% gives a bright and thick electric blue which stands out nicely.

Emerald green (krylon) 50% + Catapillar yellow (Dutch Boy - the Kmart brand in the blue can which happens to be a great yellow anyways) yields a sickly bright yellow-green which coats well, decreasing the yellow proportion will also push it towards a nice leafy green shade.

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[23578]

this is a thought i just had. everyone hates the old wd-40 straw idea, and striping paint is all poisonous and can only spray upside down since it has no straw. well, here is my idea...you make one of the wd-40 mixing setup thingamajiggys, except you use the scuba steve bendable straw (i'm not making this up they have these things at my work for canned aircleaning/lubricating hard to reach areas) and use a length of that instead, pretty long though because you're going to have to invert that striping paint and still have enough of a distance for the cold can to be above the hot can (just an assumption maybe the hot/cold will create enough of a pressure differential). get the picture, i'll steal one and try this and get back to you if you don't do it first. only drawback i see is it being really slow, given the small opening/ friction in the tube, but sounds like it just may work. flourescent paint mixed into some white sounds pretty worth it though. i'm trying this tonight.

no, i'm not trying this, it is just too much of a hassle, i thought those caps would be easier to work with, but if you're creative, give it a shot, couldn't be too hard if you could find some nozzle or whatever.

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[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

bump for gknowz

[onesandzeros]

question: if i have two runny colors like say krylon popsicle orange and farm and implement yellow, or say a crappy grey and a navy blue, if i mix them together will i have a thicker third color? or would i need to pump a thicker color in there(flat white?)

[Ouija]

Onesandzeros: You know the saying, two wrongs don't make a right?

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[cracked ass]

Originally posted by fr8oholic:
fuck the bic part. snag a red wd40 straw. they fit perfectly into the stock tips minus the nozzle. no adhesive. shove 'em in there and start mixing. cover the tops of the cans with a rag when you disconnect the two and have a look at what color you just made.

OK, I just tried this finally and it works. I like the no adhesive necessary part. It's hell trying to pump that upside down paint into Krylon empties, because the donor has to be on top, and there is something about the internal straws or pressure backup or whatever that causes it to only go in short bursts, then you have to either flip and shake the two cans WHILE they're connected, or disconnect and shake the striping can and reconnect...but eventually I got a couple of half/two-thirds full Krylons with the nice Rusto colors inside.
My hands are tired.

To clarify what fr8holic said about "stock tips minus the nozzles": he means, take a sharp, fine-pointed tool and pry the little round face out of the red hooded comfort-spray Rusto stock tips. You'll now have two faceless tips. The WD-40 straw snaps nicely into the new holes without gluing. You're set to mix Rusto.
I still prefer the Bic pen tube for Krylon, because the bore is much wider, for faster mixing time. It's just that those homemade tubes often spew when tried on Rusto.

One of the striping colors is absolutely phenomenal, possibly the best yellow ever made. It's like summer squash, only a hint more orangey, and brighter. Did somebody say OUTLINES??

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[BoB Hope ONER]

cracked ass. the martha stewart of graffiti..

sometimes i feel like im reading the dialogue from an episode of this old house...or something except for graffiti

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[ncfour]

Originally posted by onesandzeros:
question: if i have two runny colors like say krylon popsicle orange and farm and implement yellow, or say a crappy grey and a navy blue, if i mix them together will i have a thicker third color? or would i need to pump a thicker color in there(flat white?)

acutally it sometimes will..

i've mixed cherry red/navy blue and used rustoleum implement alias chamis orange as the 'thick' element in the batch and have come up with some decent paint.

and whoever said you could't cross mix to different brands together is wrong. i mixed a muted orange color from krylon flat white and that same alias chamis orange and got this dope thick light orange without any little 'reactions' in the paint. i guess you get lucky sometimes, though.

[23578]

cracked, you talking about striping paint here right? if so, what are you doing to the nozzle of same to mix? i couldn't modify it, though i didn't look at rusto, cap?

i thought maybe that you would have better results if both striping and empty krylon were upside down? make any sense?

[cracked ass]

Sorry, I left out 2 important details. By Rusto stocks, I mean the ones that come with REGULAR Rusto cans: red, hooded ones with the round white center, not the ones that come with the striping paint. Two of the same cap are used (yes, Rusto stocks work on Krylon, but...). To make the Rusto stock work on Krylon you have to carve off some of the bottom (everything EXCEPT the stem) or it won't depress, because it's too tall.

[23578]

back burnered this one for a while...

ok i did it too. the only thing i got to go into the donor can was a tiny bit of paint and the solvent, no paint flowed, there has to be a better way...that stuff fired right into my right eye at one point, it fucking burned the shit out of it. next time i go hooded for sure. i think that maybe Ouija was right, that the straw has too small of a bore for the viscosity of the rusto paint.

[23578]

did it, and all by letting the pressure out of the donor can, got three big cans into some color place, crylon and t'n't cans. took fo' eva. the color isn't that nice, just orange, but i mixed one with a little dark pukey brown green and it darkened up and made it kind of a nice color but i ran out of that color and put more orange, anyway i'm rambling. wear your masks kiddies if you try this.

[cracked ass]

blump

[unibomber!]

to glue the mixing tips together i just used duro 3 super glue it bond very hard latley ive been getting some dope color combos with wal mart paint , yesterday i mixed wal mart sun yellow with fire red and was hopeing for an orange but instead got a watermelon color a little darker than krylon mauve its nice though

[crossfade]

bump for me

[Ouija]

Did a little mixing recently, and just thought I'd share some shit I noticed.

If your pressure is too low after mixing paint, find a can that's nearly empty and cool down the reciever. Keep the donor can upside down, so you don't get any extra color into your mix (also assures that you're getting just propellant). Dump propellant into the mix until no more will go in. Empties of flat finish krylon work best, because they tend to have the highest pressure.
Another tip is that the seals tend to get worked with all the pressing down and removing the caps. Once you get the mix ready to go, just stick a cap on and keep it on. The seals won't blow on you. Few things suck worse than having your outline can blow the seal. Well, a lot of things suck worse, but it's pretty annoying. I also do the same thing with old cans. I found that Taupe and Coral like to bust their seals a lot. Baby blue does on occasion.

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[ncfour]

i did a little sessions last night and came up with some nice results. i mixed a lot of american accent colors with krylon in a krylon can and got some real good results. a nice little taupe and shadow grey mixture.

and i didn't to do a little experiment and see if i used a non-paint solvent in the mix. so i pumped about a sixth of the can up with a nice gloss laquer and surprisly i was pleased with the results. it sorta dulled the finish of the paint down to a plastic-muted looking finish..

[crossfade]

What I was forgetting to do was to cut little slats in my mixing tube. So I did that and put 5 scraps of flat white into a 2/5 can of pacific blue. Now I know some got in because it changed in colour. But only slightly. Cracked mentioned a "fwoosh" but I never heard it. However, adding just a little white seemed to beef up its opacity a hell of a lot. I was too scared to put the donor cans in almost boiling water so I just used the hottest water my tap could put out.

[cracked ass]

Crossfade, don't worry about boiling water. I think I said something way at the beginning of this thread about worrying boiling water could cause bursting, that was bullshit, the cans are stronger than that. Boil that shit right up. I have since done a couple mixing sessions with full-on boiling water and never had a rupture. In fact, I added extra boiling water to the hot bath when it cooled off too much to extend the session.

[Ouija]

Ok. Two things...

Montana does not like any american paint. If you have any Montana scraps, don't mix with anything domestic. It must use a different bonder, because they just won't mix right. It makes for a pretty strange effect, but not really in a good way.
On the topic of cans and blowing up, I don't know if the rest of you pop your empties (so assholes don't use your leftovers to write on your pieces), but Montana makes the world's strongest cans. They'll dent in and get all crushed, but they won't puncture. I don't know what they use, but that "hardcore" written on the side isn't there just for looks.

Life's more exciting with Montana... http://www.12ozprophet.com/ubb//wink.gif

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[23578]

i have been thinking about cracked's most recent post, and i'd stress that the full on boiling water should not still be on the stove when you are heating up the donors! even with a double boiler and super strong Montana cans that is still dangerous. use you're bathroom/kitchen sink, some heavy duty buckets to contain the boiling water.

[sloder]

i tried it for the first time today with a tube from a bic pen..and it worked the first time i tried it..and everytime after that..i'm glad i have patience when it comes to things like this..well i made a hella cool lilac and pistachio like green and some other colors.. it was easier than i thought it would be..thank you very much cracked ass for the info and anyone else that contributed..now i know what to do with the million scrap cans i have

[cracked ass]

Originally posted by 23578:
i have been thinking about cracked's most recent post, and i'd stress that the full on boiling water should not still be on the stove when you are heating up the donors! even with a double boiler and super strong Montana cans that is still dangerous. use you're bathroom/kitchen sink, some heavy duty buckets to contain the boiling water.
Shit, I forgot all about this. I mix paint in an unfinished, crummy loft area in case there's a disaster. I wouldn't try it in the kitchen.
The other reason not to try it in the kitchen is if you have a gas stove. If the burner is on, and paint spews everywhere, you are looking at one burned kitchen, and I don't mean burned like writers usually mean burned. In fact, even an electric stove's coils will get hot enough to flash the paint fumes. I wouldn't smoke while you mix either. Any ignition source plus any paint spill is a serious problem.
I use the heavy-duty buckets to hold hot water and icewater and move them to the loft after filling.

[23578]

Originally posted by cracked ass:
Any ignition source plus any paint spill is a serious problem.
I use the heavy-duty buckets to hold hot water and icewater and move them to the loft after filling.

sometimes I miss self evident stuff too i guess. i can't believe that i didn't think people might not have access to an area seperate from their kitchen or ashtray, i'm stupid people too.

[CIPHER_one]

*I'd like to apologize ahead of time for my igorace on this topic*

When you mix the cans, can you put the tube in the caps? Or do you put it directly in the cans?

When you are ready to mix, do you just push the cans together at the same time? or push one and just hold the other or some shit like that? I hope I'm not confusing anyone...

[crossfade]

Cipher, if all you have is the pen tube then you are just placing the tube in between the cans. No caps necessary. You'll have the donor can standing upright and the receiving can upside-down above it. You'll have to put enough pressure on both to open both valves. Otherwise you will have a big old cangasm all over the place.

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[CIPHER_one]

thanks cros. to apply equal amounts of pressure do you just press equally and hope for the best? or is there a trick u guys are't tellin' me?

[cracked ass]

Cipher: if using the mixing tube, have the hot donor can on the bottom, standing in the hot water. Hold the receiver can upside down with your left hand (if you're a rightie, otherwise switch em up), and hold the mixing tube with your right thumb and forefinger to guide it into the hot can. When you're ready to go, push down with the receiver can AND at the same time gently pull the mixing tube down into the hot can. That should give you a simultaneous flow start for both cans. (If it's tough for you to synchronize them perfectly, then err on the side of opening the valve on the cold can first, it won't spew nearly as hard as the hot can.)
SMART: I made that all-purpose mixer you mentioned, and it's the shit. Mixed up some jungle green and slate blue, all Rusto paints in Krylon cans, beautiful shit, smooth, no Krylon drips, no Rusto stutter.
For those of you who missed it, here is Smart's mixing apparatus: take two Rusto fats; using a strong sharp tool with a fine point pry the orange dots off both; connect the faces with a chunk of the uptake straw cut out of a spray can that's been ripped open; superglue the straw at both ends. Since Rusto fats fit Krylon and Rusto cans, and have a high flow rate (being fats), they make for an all-purpose mixer, and there's no danger of the stems leaking like with the pen tube. (I still love the pen tube for Kry-to-Kry mixing, but anything else is gonna be with this thing.) Also the uptake straw kicks the shit out of a WD-40 straw because it's so much thicker. (For even faster mixing I suppose widening the slit in both cap stems would work, huh?)

[23578]

no trick try it yourself. or read ese's post about the finer points. just enough so you hear flow. i like putting my ear next to or on the cold can because i'm usually inside and the fan is going.

[23578]

i stand corrected.

i'm definately going to try smarts/ouijas trick next time i mix, i've not been mixingt though since i have no krylon cans lying about.

[beardo]

just a couple points.. go look at the 'my friday night' thread. no one is safe. sure cans can take a lot of pressure. but dont over-do it. my can that blew up was fairly old and rusty. but there ARE faulty cans out there. we've all gotten flat blacks with broken valves. whos to say there arent some weak seals out there? another thing. im lucky im not a char stick right now. the burner i was on luckily was electric, by shear luck there wasnt enough in the can to release a lot of fumes cus that shit would have surely ignited. just be careful. i've had to retire to a cardboard cubicle outside for all my mixing these days ha!

[OKaer]

thank you cracked for that in depth analysis of paint mixing

[CIPHER_one]

ok, i just put the reciever can in the freezer and its only been like two minutes but it feels freeeeezing. Should I definitely wait 20-30 min.? What r the chancs that it will blow up?

[CIPHER_one]

It worked. I mixed Sage and Burgandy. It gave me a tight purple. Thanks for the help.

[MINK one]

Originally posted by Raw fish:
whats the best way to empty the ink out of the pen?? I havent tried it yet, but I am planing on it this afternoon - I dont want to end up with an enrite bic pen all over my shirt... I gave up the nerd look long ago...

get a glass of water put some water in your mouth and blow in the inkwell until you see a clear stream. its all good from there

[MINK one]

Originally posted by cracked ass:
Use boiling or almost boiling water. You don't need much, half a gallon at most, I put it in a low square plastic basin/bucket type thing, like they sell as part of a set to do dishes in the sink with.
The cold can, which will be receiving, goes on top, and the donor can sits right in the hot water bath. Again, the hot water doesn't need to be deep.
Also, there's no need for paint to be squirting 20 feet. The only time paint might spray out is as you push the cans together, and the spray won't go anywhere if you're using a plastic sleeve over both the cans, like a Wonder bread bag with the end cut off.

about rusto + rusto

i got it to kinda work, i went to mix rusto and hardware hank shit and i failed. then i thought "hmm maybe there's somthing frozen clogging the path or something" so i took a couple of washrags wetted them up wrapped them in tinfoil and threw them in the freezer. then i took them out and wrapped my rusto in them with rubberbands, let the cold can sit for a couple seconds so itd eb kinda cold. then i tried again. it was messy but it worked.

[Smart]

YE GODS! I almost had an infarction!

I was mixing paint today, and I was heating up a can, so I boil the water, take it off the burner, put the can in and sit down for a sec... so I go touch the can in the hot bath, and it's too hot to touch, so I get it out with a towel and grab my coldie out of the freezer, then I think, maybe I'll give this hottie a shake to make sure it's well mixed, shake-a-shakePOW!!!

I almost crapped on the floor... I was standing there listening for the pressure loss, but the can wasn't making any more noise, so I inspected it and found the bottom had blown out, but the can hadn't ruptured, still, shocking as hell, and kinda deafening in my little kitchen

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[cracked ass]

How can the bottom blow out, yet the can didn't rupture?? Talk sense dude.

[Smart]

the concave on the bottom became convex. so no rupture, but it won't stand up on it's own anymore

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[CIPHER_one]

thats insane

[Smart]

so, I need some glue advice.... I saw up above about Duro 3, seems worth a try, but here's what I got...

I've been using 2 rusto fats with the dots removed and a take-up straw from inside the can, my trusty mixing cap worked well for a long time, but lately it's been blowing out on me, I think the super glue I used is sub-standard... I'm looking for some that will literally melt the plastic in the straw and caps so as to fuse them together....

also, any easy ways to get the dots out of rusto fats? it's always been a bitch for me...

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[cracked ass]

Smart, I tried your rig and it works great, but I just noticed I used some questionable glue as well, one end is starting to separate.
To get the dots off I use a dentist's scraper, it's curved like a scalpel but is just a pick, not a blade. Looking face-on at an upright Rusto fat, the best prying points are at 3 and 9 o'clock, there are small gaps down inside at those points.
I don't know what glue to use, but recall that paint solvents are good at dissolving shit (hence the term "solvent") and glue is no exception. It should probably be some kind of A/B epoxy or other copolymer, the kind of glue that essentially turns into plastic when applied.

[23578]

i have not tried mine yet, but when i cut one of the inserts and wedged it out i noticed that i had cut away one of the gaps as well. so i just went ahead and gouged out a channel down to the stem (using the small blade of a new swiss army knife). then thinking since i did that one, i might as well do it to the other one as well since the channel wouldn't be much improved if you just open one. anyway i'm trying it. i don't have the money for all kinds of fancy glue, so when you guys decide on one, and it works post up the winner.

[Smart]

right on, thanks cracked, my dad has one of those scrapers so I'll use it next time... this time I just rebuilt using the old caps and a new straw... I put more glue around the straw and the tip and I added a 'sleeve' of glue for about a 1/4 inch on the tube and it all seems a little more reliable...

Also, PUBLIC SERVICE ANNOUNCEMENT!!!

the bottom blow-out thing happened again, both times it was Colorplace Sunshine Yellow... careful of overheating these cans... I don't know about the other Wal-mart colors, I've never had this happen before, but it REALLY sucks because it reduces the pressure AND the straw wont raech the bottom so it wastes paint as well...

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[The Freight Life]

go to Home Depo or WalMart and look for Stripping Spray in the paint section...there is a big tan male cap, get two of them...pop the pin--((the colored part where the aerosol sprays))--out of the cap....take a BIC pen, the ones with a solid white tube. take the inkwell out and the hook that holds it to paper and books. you should have just the tube and the cone shaped piece left, you need 2 coned pieces....put the cones on either end of the tube, then place the cones tips in the caps where the pins were..and BAMMA a super fast mixxing tube! watch out when you take the caps off of the can, i recoment wearing gloves!!

[riktor]

i know a way to mix paint without any mess, i'm talkin mixing on your mom's persian rug and not getting a speck on it. it mixes perfect. you can put rusto paint in krylon cans, mix any hue and any saturation, and use the can really well. mix any color it's a writer secret i gained from kofie (uti,from LA). i was sworn not to tell anyone. e-mail and i'll give other secerts a writer would love to know.
[email protected]

[artfiend]

can you mix two full cans or would that result in your own death?????

[cracked ass]

You can add another fifth or so to a full can, I've heard, but I haven't tried it. All my receiver cans are empty to 2/3 full. I also heard if you do pump extra into a full can, when you go to spray it it gushes hard at first, which seems to make the idea worthless.

[fr8oholic]

anyone tried pumping rusto into and empty true colors or belton can??

[fr8oholic]

bip

[fr8oholic]

switch.

[Smart]

huh? what?

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[fr8oholic]

cracked said that he had mixed rusto into krylon cans because it doesn't skip then. i like the "feel" of the belton cans much more and was trying to do the same thing. i haven't had much luck.

[fr8oholic]

i did get this to work. i've got a pretty nice and thick oj into a belton can. the pressure is a little lacking but i'll get that under control and let you fellas know how it worked.

[Frate_Raper]

yeah any one ever mix any true colours?????????????

side note why is country blue painters touch so cheap right now???disscontinued?????

[cracked ass]

bazump

[imported_drake mallard]

thanks cracked, ouija....i was about to start asking around bout this...cos i've got alot of half empty cans. but heres my answer..
u guys are great.

[beardo]

bump for the dude who was posting shit about mixing

[cracked ass]

I haven't mixed any colors since True Colors came out, I don't know whether that's good or bad. They have all the hot light shades I need for highlights and shells.

[imported_KINGREAL]

Just wanted to mention that i use a sauna to heat up my cans. Its wicked cause i know exactly what temp. the can is at. (cans explode at 50 celuis or higher). I guess i'm lucky like that!

[onesandzeros]

i'm alright with doing krylon-krylon mixes using the bic tube system, but i cant get putting rusto/painterstouch in an empty can of krylon to work. is there anything i should try that i might not be trying?

[imported_destroy1]

you know you can buy special maid caps for mixing they sell then at some store by my house but there 7 bucks and i cant find wd 40 caps that will fit on spray cans anymore that blows

[imported_xerkex]

hey, here is a color tip that was passed to me that maybe you could try.
Take a maize and let about 1/4 of it out,then add baige,leather brown, and alot of banner red.(all krylon)Know keep in mind that haven't really had to much motivation to mix so this isn't a personal garantee.
haha and actually i don't even know the out come but don't be a pussy just try the shit and i'm your all creative enuff to find use for it. peace and to whomever brought out this topic, thanx 4 the motivation, i'll prolly be expiramenting either tonight or tomarrow. o and if u do try it post a response on your discovery.

[beardo]

bump again for dumbasses

[WebsterUno]

Thanx, I was looking for this since friday!
Dumbass me, was searching thruogh The Yard!?!?! Im moving on to the second page. Im going to try this, Ill post my results later. Peace.

[imported_Unit]

Bump

[imported_theFUME]

how to u hold the cans if ur using a mixing cap or the wd40 method??

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[Ski Mask]

bump cause I had my first real sucessfull mixing session this afternoon. I got decent results just by putting the recieveing cans in the freezer for 20 minutes, then mixing with room temprature cans using a mixing tip.
Now that I know what wonders a little flat white can do for a watery color I'm in love with krylon again. I mixed a 1/3 can of flat white and a almost full can of pumpkin orange and now I have this amazingly thick, bright orange. I also got a sort of faded denim blue color, and a very light green (sort of like white tinted with a little bit of pistachio), and I cant wait to try them all out.
My attempts at making and ICY Grape were a bit of a bust...the cans of grape satin just filled up around the valve...but they were both older cans so thats probably a fluke. No major misshaps but it was a messy process, good thing I was prepared.
thanks again to everyone who's given advice on this thread...this is one of the best bits of info on here..

[imported_Proph UAcrew]

Try this, you get a pissy color... Put the WD40 tube into one can and then the other side of the tube into the lil' hole in yer dick, stick the tube in as far as possible, then pee, and press down on the nozzle at the same time, see what happens and post.




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[imported_RedBrickRick]

I was thinking about some shit, and was wondering if there was a way to get paint not in a can, into a can. I know your going from normal pressure to pressure, but i was just wondering.

[imported_RedBrickRick]

a tip with mixing paint, dont use your cooking pans to put the donor can in. My first time i was thinking and i got a some fucking paint on them. And i am sure on your first time anything could go wrong.

Thanks for the post cracked. just like the pringals... i tried it once and now i cant stop!

[imported_scienxe]

Originally posted by Ouija:
Rusto is very hard to mix, unless you have a very thick stem o pass it through, due to the fact that they use a heavy fish oil as their paint base.

wha? rusto not vegan!? ouch.
-scienxe

[imported_Rest AF]

Originally posted by RedBrickRick:
I was thinking about some shit, and was wondering if there was a way to get paint not in a can, into a can.

If I got that right you want to put bucket paint in a can? Well I'm your man. Check my post in favorite combos section, i don't want to type it again.

Another thing, and many of you probably already know this, but anyways...

In programs like Freehand you have the possibility of creating your own colours using a CMYK (Cyan Magenta Yellow K... –can’t remember right now) or a RGB (Red Green Blue) mixer.

It can be useful to play a little with it while freezing your reciever cans. It gives you a fair idea of what to do to get some weird colours.

[imported_Spree]

Has anybody ever tried filling a precompresed can? A family member of mine happens to own a aresol plant and he pressed some cans with only marbles (he basicly through some on the assembly line after the chemical mix stage where the can gets compressed and took em off right away before propellant is injected). The cans are pressurized ( a 5 year could crush em) so they dont need to be frozen but we cant seem to get the can to accept paint, it simply builds up on the top of the reciever (blank) can.. It sucks tho cuase we have these 25% extra cans that are all silver and have extra mixing marbles but no way of getting paint into them yet.. they prob can hold more paint than a frozen can too becuase of the fact that they are precompressed.

Im in the connecticut/ne region so if some one (ouija?)thinks they can do it or wants some blank cans to try give me a email. These would also make a cool product for those who mix alot (for the fact that the cans dont need to be frozen).



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[email protected]
www.asisphonics.com

[imported_Proph UAcrew]

bump for paint mixin...



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There comes a time in every mans education when he reaches the conviction that envy is ignorance: and Imitation is suicide.

[mobius]

make a wider/longer gap in the ink well.

[imported_Rest AF]

Hello, my name is Rest AF and i'm a mixoholic.

You know when the psssssh stops, you can get it to go again by shaking both cans (together). Or you can take one can of the mixer and then put it back.

Plus, sometimes you can get somewhere with fucked up or old valves by making a wider mixer (smaller notches). Or you can just make a big mess.

I just found yesterday 25 leftovers that I forgot about for like 2 years in my storage place. There's gonna be a big mess!!!

Also found some empty Montanas, gonna fill it to get that beautiful line...

[imported_inkjunkie34]

thanks for the tips...everytime i've done that my fuckin cans blew up... i had it all backwards

[cracked ass]

Chenzin looking for the bump

[imported_inkjunkie34]

nice

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jus me and you muthafucka jus me and you...i'll put trade marks around your fuckin eye

[beardo]

good lookin rest, i was about to post that since i recently dicovered the shaking cans trick myself.

whoever that was wanting to put silver stogether.. just put them all in one of the silver cans, you dont need to put them in a NEW can. (i hope to god you already thought of that)

[imported_super man 1]

damn, everytime i tried mixing i don't hear the "foosh" from can to can, i just hear a little gargling sound if i put my ear close... i mean i heard it work like once or twice, but the rest of the time i feel like a bitch cause i can do it right all of the time, i was thinking maybee the notches in the inkwell arent big enough, or it is cause i just pressed the two cans together, i didn't push the reciever down and push the inkwell into the bottom one, i just thought that it would go by itself,
so if anyone can help it would be hella cool..

peace

[imported_super man 1]

damn, everytime i tried mixing i don't hear the "foosh" from can to can, i just hear a little gargling sound if i put my ear close... i mean i heard it work like once or twice, but the rest of the time i feel like a bitch cause i can do it right all of the time, i was thinking maybee the notches in the inkwell arent big enough, or it is cause i just pressed the two cans together, i didn't push the reciever down and push the inkwell into the bottom one, i just thought that it would go by itself,
so if anyone can help it would be hella cool..

peace

[imported_theFUME]

bumb for bumping this

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"So analyze me surprise me but cant magmatize me"
-nas

[Ski Mask]

*bump* at Smart's suggestion. Mixed again today...got some nice purple/pinks....

[Smart]

thanks Ese, I was on my way to do the work after dropping an email joint, and I was pleasantly surprised http://www.12ozprophet.com/ubb//smile.gif

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2 Can Sam

[beardo]

bump for speeks

[tmf0]

thats long

[imported_IRON CHEF]

DAMN PRETTY SOON YOU'LL BE ABLE TO SEND AWAY FOR INSTRUCTIONS ON "HOW TO BE A GRAFF-WRITER"!! EXPERIMENT,PAYDUES YOURSELF,
GO TO STORES "SEARCH" TAKE LIKE 30 TIPS
AND EXPERIMENT WITH FIRE,RAZORS AND TUBES.
too many kids now-a-days are "BORN WITH A PHANTOM IN THEIR MOUTH" all they gotta do is "READ-HOW" back in the day we had to have creativity and find the answers ourself.
(THIS POST DISSES NOBODY ON THIS BOARD,BUT RATHER A MENTAL STATE OF HAVING EVEYRTHING HANDED TO YOU ON A SILVER PLATTER)
KEEP IT UNDERGROUND PEACE?!

[imported_Siris]

bump...... gots to keep this shit high so little fucks that wanna know dont start another thread!

[23578]

i also have had that problem superman, i tell ya smarts suggestion is the way to go, but unless you have a ton of time on your hands or can get one of those tools, you have a bit of a quandary (look it up-means connundrum, or unanswerable problem). i think that the reason this happens is you are pushing too hard and causing the notch to fold in on itself, lighten up and also try what ese suggests. . .a bit of an angle.

bumped for zesto. try mixing striping paint into some light colors, you will be very happy with the results.

[beardo]

mi bump x

[imported_dirtysicks]

bu bu bu bu bu bump

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I sort glass, thats my job.......

[Smart]

Originally posted by beardo:
good lookin rest, i was about to post that since i recently dicovered the shaking cans trick myself

A word of caution, even though paint has stopped coursing through the mixing tube, this doesn't necessarily mean you've had a significant pressure drop, espescially in over heated cans, I find that the over heating tends to swell the valve and pinch the slits in the mix tips together, binding, and thereby, impeding the flow of paint.

Now, why did I say caution? Well after having MANY MANY cans get misshapen due to excess pressure, and lost a few valves on old cans, SPLOOSH!.. I can say that WITHOUT DOUBT the scariest thing that has ever happened to me when mixing is blowing out the bottom of the can, not to say rupturing, but the concave becomes convex, with a LOUD BANG! as well... this has always happened due to can shaking, otherwise, the tops 'rise'... so shaking is kind of a bad thing...

So, that's it? Smart tells us not to shake, but offers no alternative? What a bastard!

Hold on there, that's Sir Bastard to you kid, and what you do is something I call 'fucking the valve'... it only works if you're using the straight tip mixing method, but you take the top can and start mixing, when the woosh becomes a burble start fucking. leave the valve open, so you're still actually mixing, and push the top can down just a little bit more, release, repeat... somehow this seems to create back pressure in the donor can and renews the fountain of paint...

I mix until I hear nothing and then do my trick and I can make it sound like the initial connection again...

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2 Can Sam

[beardo]

huh?

[taper]

i have bafd luck with shit like this......aaawwwww shit:eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek: :eek:

[justjedd]

*IGNORANCE AHEAD*

Okay.. so I totally understand everything that's been said about pressure and mixing (tho I have yet to try it out).. but here's my stupid question :

I SWEAR the first person who told me about mixing (whom I believed had done it) said nothing about using the hot/cold water.. what I wanna know is, is there ANY way you can mix ANY amount of paint w/o doing this? Letting out pressure or using brand new cans?

The reason why I ask is this : Wouldn't it be dope if you could rock say some green fill, yer outline and then mix in just a lil white to yer green and use that for yer halo? Or what about using it for faded fills? Imagine, being able to use 1 color and one white and gradually filling in yer piece from left to right.. VERY gradually getting lighter and lighter? That'd be nice.

I'm with stupid..
-> Jedd

[HESHIANDET]

yo man, thats a cool idea.if i were you i'd delete that post, shit its hard to be original in graff. keep that to yourself. you don't need hot or cold water to mix f.y.i.

[justjedd]

"Dude, are you being sarcastic?"

"Dude, I don't even know anymore."

..?

[Dirty_habiT]

I don't think he is, and that does sound like a good idea. You could get some really smooth fades that way....sounds like.

[Southern kid]

you could do that..on site mixing..with a cooler of ice and 15 minutes. its not worth the time though. with all the brands of paint out there now you can find a color close enough to make a smooth fade with...unless you're using a mixed can. but even with that..say you're using a slime green color..you can use one of the 6 krylon greens to mix it with..teal..jade..light sage..clover..all of those will fade well. not to mention greys. its not worth it..but if you'd wanna do it..go for it.

[justjedd]

So what yer saying is that YES you do have to at least cool the reciever if not heat up the donor then, eh?

[Ouija]

I was talking with Southern earlier and he was asking about what you mix to make burnt orange, so I figured I'd share a couple mixtures for replicating old Krylon colors that are since discontinued. Having a color chart or a can of the color is neccessary for getting an exact match. You have to fool around a little to get the ratios exact, since i don't have any way of measuring how much paint goes into the can.

*The mixtures are in the same brand the original color was. The colors in the recipes are all available and still produced by the manufacturers.

Krylon Burnt Orange= 3/4 can pumpkin orange, a little bit of mahogany (about 2 seconds with the OnTheRun style mixing cap), and about 1/4 warm brown.

Krylon Bonfire= 1/2 Cherry red, 1/2 warm brown, a squirt of pumpkin orange, and a squirt of beige. (Just the warm brown and and the cherry is pretty close.)

Krylon OD Khaki= 3/4 can hunter green, the rest half and half of black and mahogany. This one is tricky, since OD khaki is a really odd color.

Krylon Topaz Yellow= 1/2 can bright/john deere yellow, 1/2 beige, a squirt of almond and smoke gray (You can also make this with the walmart equipment yellow and a little krylon beige and almond.)

Krylon Icy Grape= 3/4 rich plum, 1/8 grape, 1/8 white, and a squirt of mauve

Krylon Jungle Green= You probably all know how to make this, or have your own formula, but the best one, as far as opacity goes, is 2/3 emerald green and 1/3 daisy/safety yellow. In rusto the formula that works best is sunburst yellow and american accents spring green (which makes it sorta muted), or rusto fresh blue. The ratios are different for the green and blue. You need a lot less blue to change it to a lime color.

Krylon Spanish Brown= 3/4 can warm brown and 1/4 bright/john deere yellow. (sun yellow doesn't work well, because you need the ochre pigment. Sun has a cadmium-like yellow, which is more toward green than brown)

Krylon Sunset Orange= 2/3 banner red, 1/3 pumpkin orange. (A little less than 1/3 pumpkin. Safety/popsicle orange works better, but pumkin is sold at walmart, so it's easier to find) I have a hard time making this one look exact. The pigments in sunset are probably pure pigment, so it's difficult to replicate.

Krylon Brick= this one is hard to make without krylon terracotta. Terracotta is almost the same, and adding a tiny bit of mahogany changes it to brick. Without terracotta, my guess would be to start with 1/2 can mahogany and add pumpkin, dusty pink, white, or maybe beige. Go easy with the white, because brick has a strong orangey pink tint that you can easily gray out with white.

Krylon Pastel Aqua= 2/3 teal blue, 1/6 white, 1/6 jade green

Krylon Slate Blue= If you can't get colonial blue, this mix is hard. 3/4 colonial blue, 1/4 oyster gray, and a squirt of white. Basically, Slate is a really grayed out light blue. I think true blue is too rich. Pacific blue might work with a lot of oyster gray and white. You'd be better off adding pacific blue to a can of oyster, since it's easier to darken than to lighten.

Rusto Terracotta= american accents mix.......1/4 nutmeg, 1/4 london grey, 1/2 cinnamon, add a little rosewood and/or colonial red to darken and lighten it and get the ratio right. This one is kinda tough to make and you need to play with the ratios.

Rusto Adobe= 1/2 rusto leather brown, 1/4 rusto equipment/caterpillar yelow, 1/8 rusto sunrise red, 1/8 rusto sand.

[wakassOATH]

thanks for that rusto teracotta mix even though i never used it from rusto i guess its basicly the same as the krylon version

thanks load ouija

[justjedd]

How do you go about figuring out what "half" and "1/4" are when you can't see the paint yer mixing? I can figure out that you could just guess or start with cans that are already about half-full (by weight) but is there some other trick to it or do you just guess and then try it out and add more from there?

Da Uneducated wigga..
-> Jedd

[Southern kid]

guess at it..thats the only way. the best way is to just go for it. i like taking all my same colored scraps and getting a nice even tone of all those colors. such as the recent one..coral reef valspar and enlish rose valspar with a touch of black..its a nice burnt berry orange color. thanks ouij for the mixes..we got sidetracked too much last night haha..dunno if it was cause i talk to much or you had a few beers..but word. have fun mixing kiddies..dont shoot paint everywhere like i always do. moms brought in a blue leaf a few days ago..'whats this.' hahaha i dunno a blue leaf?

[beardo]

i highly recommend you cool down the recieving can. i dont think i've ever gotten it to work without cooling or heating one of the cans up.

[imported_HAMMERFALL]

blue leaf, that made me laugh. i like to paint spiders and there webs.

[Insomniak]

mixing is addictive and dangerous to eyes and cloths.
I would advise always wearing at least one washing up glove, to shield
that little bit always waiting in the connection to jump out at you

and the glove tends to help not getting scolded by hot water when shaking the hot can to move the hot paint from the outer part of the can to the colder middle of the can to warm it up quicker.

also for mixing dy-mark (or any can with male caps) into a regular female can, a basketball pump connector pin will screw nicely around a trimmed dy-mark cap. you first must fiddle and un-screw parts of the pin and use some common sense to check the pin you have is the same as mine.

the gloved mixer will always triumph over the bare but bold.

[beardo]

damn killer.. you might look into heating your cans less, it reallly doesnt take that high of a temp to get it to work. glad theres another mixing addict on the board now too!

[Insomniak]

i mix for breakfast lunch and tea

[~i~hear~voices~]

ok yeah i was readin this....cant belive it took me a friggin hours toread all this stuff...i so love how people just give u the recipie to makingvcolors and shit....hey cracked ass..ouija...do u guys just have like a billion hours o free time...cause like damn....so is this 100% garenteed to work or what..cause knowin me ill fuck up but im sure ill get the hang of it...and im diggin the colors being mentioned...sunset orange i just jizzed every where with that one....keep up the good work......:D

[ASER1NE]

SOOOOOOO OKAY IONO WHAT THE 4 PAGES OF THIS THREAD ARE TALKING ABOUT BC I ONLY READ PAGE 1 , AND I DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUK THIS BIC PEN AND HOT / COLD WATER SHIT IS BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BIG FAT WASTE OF FUKKING EFFORT SOOOO....




FIRST GO TO THE LOCAL HARDWARE STORE AND WANDER AROUND UNTIL U FIND A CAN OF WHATEVER WITH A TUBE ON IT , STEAL 2 TIPS OFF THE CANS AND ONE OF THE TUBES , MAKE SURE THE TIPS ARENT FEMALE , THESE ARE EASY TO FIND , ATLEAST WHERE I LIVE. OR JUSS GO TO UR LOCAL HIP HOP STORE AND BUT MIXING TIPS , HERE THEY COST 10 BUKS EACH SET IONO BOUT WHERE YALL LIVE........next get the cans you wanna mix with and whichever is gonna recieve the paint , turn it upside down and empty it of pressure , now connect the two cans together with the tube obviously and press down on both , the high pressure can will go into the on you emptied.......SIMMMMPLE ........REPEAT AS NECESSARY

[*SIZEROKS*]

mixing is definaty addictive, lots of good point up in here.....has any body made avocoto??????????ive tried a few times but no luck yet, ive tried a combination of emerald, leather brown, white, but cant get it down..................any pointers??????????

[imported_daus]

Originally posted by ASER1NE
SOOOOOOO OKAY IONO WHAT THE 4 PAGES OF THIS THREAD ARE TALKING ABOUT BC I ONLY READ PAGE 1 , AND I DONT KNOW WHAT THE FUK THIS BIC PEN AND HOT / COLD WATER SHIT IS BUT THAT SOUNDS LIKE A BIG FAT WASTE OF FUKKING EFFORT SOOOO....

Have you ever wondered...

when your mixing paint into an empty custom can.. at some point the pressure becomes equal and not all of the paint empties out of the full can that you are mixing into your custom can?? Well by the basic principle of physics, cold (less pressure) hot (more pressure) - put the empty can in the freezer and the full can in a bucket of hot water and you've now solved the dilemna. Now every last drop of paint empties out of the full can into your empty can!! What an idea.. god bless science.. or whatever.

oh yeah its all in the threads if you search for it

[*SIZEROKS*]

SO IVE BEEN READING ALL THIS ABOUT MIXING. IVE TRIED FREEZING CANS AND HEATING THEM UP, THAT SHIT TAKES A LOT OF TIME. THE WAY I DO IT IS I JUST DEPRESUERIZE THE CAN I AM FILLING BY TURNING IT UP SIDEDOWN (AS TO LET THE AIR OUT AND KEEP THE PAINT IN). THEN I FILL IT WITH MY FULL CAN, IF THE FLOW STOPS I SHAKE THE CANS AND YOU CAN USUALLY GET A FEW MORE SQUIRTS UP IN THERE. ONCE FLOW STOPS COMPLETLE, I DEPRESURIZE THE RECIEVING CAN JUST ENOUGH TO ALLOW MORE PAINT IN...........THE BAD SIDE TO MY WAY IS THAT SOME TIMES ESPECIALLY IN COLD WHETHER THE CUSTOM CANS TEND TO NOT HAVE THE BEST PRESSURE, NOTHING THAT KEEPS ME FROM CHANGING MY STEEZ........ I DONT KNOW JUST ANOTHER WAY TO MIX THOSE CUSTOM COLORES.........

[imported_daus]

Originally posted by *SIZEROKS*
I DONT KNOW JUST ANOTHER WAY TO MIX THOSE CUSTOM COLORES.........

im telling you man.. sometimes the best way isn't always the easy way. So it may take up a couple minutes to get the hot water into a bucket and wait for the can to get cold. So work on a sketch while your waiting or drink a pop or some shit... but changing the temperature inside the can is important to really maximze the amount of paint you can add to an empty can without sacrificing any pressure.

[Handjob]

Don't mix paint while watching Matlock.

----!!KABOOM!!-----

[Ouija]

Avocado...duh. I can't believe I forgot that one.

Rusto version (lighter).....1/2 can AA moss green, 1/4 can AA taupe, 1/8 AA nutmeg, 1/8 AA spring green

Krylon version (darker).....1/2 can krylon beige, 1/4 can krylon hunter green, 1/8 krylon leather brown, 1/8 can krylon dove gray or smoke gray. (Don't use too much hunter green, because it'll blue the color out if all you have is smoke gray. Dove gray is fine. At least you finally have a use for that can of hunter green you bought three years ago.)

I don't have a billion hours of free time. It's called trial and error...and painting for a while doesn't hurt.

[REGULATOR]

god i feel hella dumb....i never knew u could mix colors

wats the diff. between and female cap and a male?!?!?! please inform a dumb toy like me

[justjedd]

You know.. I could be a dick about this, but since I don't know shit either and could stand to learn a thing or 2, I'll just be nice and tell you.

It's simple. A male cap has a protuding valve where as a female cap has an insert for a valve (from the can) to go into. That's why it's called male and female, get it?

:P

[REGULATOR]

so a fat cap would be male cus it has that insert thing and a fan spray would be female cus u stick it on the insert??

[justjedd]

Yes.

[phatcapONE]

Just tried the way cracked ass said and it works beautifully! Just try to wear some gloves or something..cause your hands can get a lil dirty. and don't fat caps have one slit at thier stem? thats how many slits mine have..hm....and thats how much i cut into the tube....one slit on each side..

[phatcapONE]

about the female and male cap thing..its simple..just think of it this way..... the male cap has this stem thing stickin out (kinda like its dick) and the male cap, when u insert it in the can, is fukin the can..like a dude would fuk a girl...and a female cap would have a hole in it..kinda like a pussy....so the can fucks it...u get what im sayin??????

[phatcapONE]

OH YEAH! anyone know how to make a bright bright green?..not light ..but bright...like..the green on the sour skittles bag...

[Ouija]

Originally posted by phatcapONE
OH YEAH! anyone know how to make a bright bright green?..not light ..but bright...like..the green on the sour skittles bag...

Bright colors are difficult, because they mostly involve specific pigments. Making bright colors through mixing is really difficult, because mixing pigments tends to wash out the color. White will also dull out the color if you use too much. Bright pigments, like cadmium, cobalt, and pthalo tend to be watery, while dull pigments tend to be nice a thick.

My suggestion for a bright green is to mix an existing bright green, like Krylon Emerald, with an existing bright blue or yellow, like safety yellow or true blue. Green is either brownish, yellowish, or bluish, so use those three colors to pull your intended green to whatever way you like. Avoid white when making bright colors, because it will gray them out, in addition to lightening the color. Flourescent paint is very watery, but can give your mix that extra something it needs. I would avoid adding too much, but I've never tried mixing flourescent paint in with other colors, so I don't know what will happen. I just know that flourescent paint is vivid as hell, so it's probably what you need to get your color looking right. Good luck.

[imported_EL MASKO]

Yeah well...Thanks to my mother...She threw out my $7 mixing tip. Good info guys.

[ASER1NE]

Originally posted by daus


Have you ever wondered...

when your mixing paint into an empty custom can.. at some point the pressure becomes equal and not all of the paint empties out of the full can that you are mixing into your custom can?? Well by the basic principle of physics, cold (less pressure) hot (more pressure) - put the empty can in the freezer and the full can in a bucket of hot water and you've now solved the dilemna. Now every last drop of paint empties out of the full can into your empty can!! What an idea.. god bless science.. or whatever.

oh yeah its all in the threads if you search for it


I HAVENT WONDERED THAT BC IT NEVER HAPPENS TO ME , AT THE POINT WHERE THE PRESSURE BECOMES EQUAL I JUST RELEASE SOME OF THE PRESSURE FROM THE CUSTOM CAN , AND KEEP MIXING AS USUAL , NO FREEZER HOT WATER GARBAGE AND I STILL GET MOST EVERY LAST DROP OF PAINT OUT , WELL ATLEATS I THINK I DO BC WHEN I SHAKE THE CAN IT SOUNDS FUKKIN EMPTY...........BUT THANX ANYHOW

[ASER1NE]

Originally posted by phatcapONE
Just tried the way cracked ass said and it works beautifully! Just try to wear some gloves or something..cause your hands can get a lil dirty. ..


i dont know if this has been said already but ....... I JUST PUT A PLASTIC BAG OVER BOTH CANS B4 I MIX AND THE PAINT THAT SPLATTERS JUST HITS THE INSIDE OF THE BAG AND IS CONTAINED.......ALL UR CLOTHES AND EYES AND HANDS ARE KEPT CLEAN.........:p

OHH YA....BUT IT DRIPS OUT OF THE BAG SOMETIMES SO MAKE SURE YOU MIX OUTSIDE OR SOMEWHERE ON A CRAPPY SURFACE AND NOT ON UR MOTHERS PERSIAN RUG.....

[*SIZEROKS*]

[i]Originally posted by ASER1NE AT THE POINT WHERE THE PRESSURE BECOMES EQUAL I JUST RELEASE SOME OF THE PRESSURE FROM THE CUSTOM CAN , AND KEEP MIXING AS USUAL , NO FREEZER HOT WATER GARBAGE AND I STILL GET MOST EVERY LAST DROP OF PAINT OUT , WELL ATLEATS I THINK I DO BC WHEN I SHAKE THE CAN IT SOUNDS FUKKIN EMPTY...........BUT THANX ANYHOW [/b]


THATS WHAT I SAID BUT YOUR BOUND TO GET ONE OF THOSE COMMENTS THAT SAY"YOUR NOT MAXIMIZING THE FULL POTENCIAL OF YOUR MIXING CAPIBILLITIES" OR SOMETHIN TO THAT EFFECT, SOMETIMES THE EASY WAY WORKES JUST FINE.........

[ASER1NE]

WERD TO THAT ^^^ -didnt read it last time but gotcha now..

i dont mind wasting 1/10 of a drop of paint, but ya i guess im not getting every single drop but the easy way werks just fine for me ;)

[metaljockey]

ok, I read through the post and couldnt figure out whats the best way to make mixing tips. I origially tried melting the plastics from a bic tube into the 2 stocks, but someone said it wouldnt work.

Does anyone have suggestions? What kinda glue works best? or should I just try to use the bic tube without anything else? if so, how would I mix rustos...or is that the same too?

[Ouija]

Super glue works best, because it melts to plastic and forms a god bond.

[imported_Magnet Man]

Originally posted by Raw fish
whats the best way to empty the ink out of the pen?? I havent tried it yet, but I am planing on it this afternoon - I dont want to end up with an enrite bic pen all over my shirt... I gave up the nerd look long ago...

sketch!!

[imported_Magnet Man]

for the hot water: cut the top off a 2L plastic pop bottle. works fine.

the bic pen thing is too messy for me... i just hot glued two rustos together sixty nine style.

[ogrBDC]

everyone says that the bic tube doesnt work on rustos but its worked for me..i havent mixed anything else..it may not work as fast i cant tell, i havent emptied significant amounts of paint, only enough to change color.

[imported_dr. frink one]

Originally posted by cracked ass
I pressed a little too hard and puctured the valve area and the can started spewing uncontrollably out the top. It took me less than two seconds to decide that I ought to buff my practice sheetrock wall immediately.l .
Cracked, you have a practive sheetrock wall? did you install it or was it already there...
would love to have one, but don';t have enough money to "waste" paint....

[SatAn's SluT]

word to all thats been said here... right i wanna put some paint from a can which takes females into an empty can that takes males... how do i do this coz i heard you cant take the lill female tube out... i thought you could get a female and put some tube in the face and then put that in the face of a male (after the inserts have been taken out) would this work?...
the reason i wanna do this is coz i found a place that sells REALLY cheap black and chrome but they are all female cans and i wanna use different males (fats and thins) on them, so i wanna put the paint into an empty male can...
I tried pushing the lill female tube into a male valve but it wouldnt mix...

wat should i do? how do i do it etc....


:confused:

[Insomniak]

okae mrs slut you could go to halfway through page 5 of this topic an see what i had to say, or save yourself the trouble because i might just give you an extra tip, just look at every little thing thing with a hole in it be it something you found in the trash or maby a butane lighter fluid connector (hint hint nudge nudge wink wink) and if you find one please tell me wich company made it i'm still looking. i've used these and they're fucking sweeeet.

[bodice_ripper]

I live in ireland and until VERY recently you could get fuck all paint, and the are only TWO main stores in the goddamn country from which you can even get it. Belton retails at about £6 ($5.40 ish), Montana and Proline at £4 ($3.57ish).
But bombing cans cost about £6.50 ($5.80)!! And these are VERY small stores, you cant steal them. So me and my crew scour the local spots and grab all those ditched bombing empties and fill them with cheaper car chrome, and they are good as new. All the toys buy the bombing cans and then use them for legal pieces, so there's always some to find.....

[Cracked Ass]

Alas, the sheetrock wall is no more. I haven't mixed in ages.

[arce]

Originally posted by bodice_ripper
I live in ireland and until VERY recently you could get fuck all paint, and the are only TWO main stores in the goddamn country from which you can even get it. Belton retails at about £6 ($5.40 ish), Montana and Proline at £4 ($3.57ish).
But bombing cans cost about £6.50 ($5.80)!! And these are VERY small stores, you cant steal them. So me and my crew scour the local spots and grab all those ditched bombing empties and fill them with cheaper car chrome, and they are good as new. All the toys buy the bombing cans and then use them for legal pieces, so there's always some to find.....

shit, that's a really cool idea, bodice_ripper. i'm gonna do that in future! :idea:

[bodice_ripper]

what the fuck?! dont have me to smack you boy!

[arce]

Originally posted by bodice_ripper
what the fuck?! dont have me to smack you boy!

don't make me have 2 fuckin king u, toy

[bodice_ripper]

Just fucking try it bitch! Ready to battle when you are markerslut

[bodice_ripper]

Wow, what an apt name you have.
Perhaps, and I'm only guessing here, you are thinking it because I posted that fact not two days ago in the topic "Don't get caught up in the game....."

So dont quit the day job in favour of one with Psychic hotline......:rolleyes:

[Smart]

no, not psychic, SMART!

I remember you from 2 years ago on the old, OLD board, you were pretty proud of it back then as well...

I was offhandedly trying to say welcome back, but since you got your tits in a knot, you can fuck off, whatever...

[bodice_ripper]

was I to divine that from one sentence? We pierce'd lesbians are very defensive. hello to you too:dazed:

[Smart]

well, no pressure but I made my reference based on the mere 2 words of your name... that aside, nice to 'see' you again

[GorbortOrman]

You can have paint custom made at most auto paint stores if you have the hook up. But it's expensive, Ive never done it before by the way. Id like some nice metallic greens and blues, that would be so smooth.

[imported_dirtysicks]

I have only tried mixing paint once, when I did I used the bic tube method, I couldnt get both valves to open together, is there a trick to this? I tried for an hour and finally said fuck this! This is the first time I have ever asked for advice, so help a ni99a out.:confused: :confused:

[GorbortOrman]

dirtysicks- I did the same exact thing, I even put one can in the freezer and one in boiling water and after an hour or two, i said 'Fuck this shit', No wonder I didnt get anywhere in school...

[455]

I don't like to mix paint, to me it is a waste of time.

[imported_dirtysicks]

Originally posted by dirtysicks
I have only tried mixing paint once, when I did I used the bic tube method, I couldnt get both valves to open together, is there a trick to this? I tried for an hour and finally said fuck this! This is the first time I have ever asked for advice, so help a ni99a out.:confused: :confused:

[arce]

Originally posted by bodice_ripper
You really have to fiddle with the cans to get them in the right position. Maybe you need to file the ends of the tube some more so it will fit properly, or use the inner tube from a different sort of pen? I always make a bunch of different tubes, so I have a few to choose from if I have problems.

or try a lollipop stick. not only do u get a kick-ass mixin tube, but u also get all that lollipop goodness! :idea:

[imported_super man 1]

the end to end mix tips work the best, you can get them online for about 5 bucks, and the shit is worth it, i tried the bic method and it kinda worked, but it took hella long and was frusterating ass hell so i said fuck it and got the real deal

[DIRTYSEKS]

ONE QUESTION....

IS IT POSSIBL TO MIX SILVER OR SOME TYPE OF METALIC WITH REG. COLOR TO GET A METALIC COLOR.... FOR EXAMPLE IF I WANT A METALIC PURPLE CAN I MIX A SILVER AND A PURPLE.... WILL IT COME OUT METALIC PURPLE? DOES ANY ONEKNOW?


THANKS..... :confused:

[imported_dirtysicks]

^^CHANGE YOUR SCREEN NAME DICK FACE! :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[imported_super man 1]

doesn't work good

[DIRTYSEKS]

SO IT DOESNT WORK VERY GOOD HAW? DAMN I WAS THINKING I WAS GONA COME THREW WITH SOME SICK ASS COLORS AND SHIT BUT OH WELLL.....

AND AS FOR CHANGING MY NAME AIGHT JUST CUZ YOU SAY SO!!! YAH FUCKING RIGHT..... NOW IF YOU WOULD HAVE CAME AT ME COO I WOULD HAVE BUT NOW WITH THAT ATTITUDE FUCK THAT!!! BESIDES YU KNOW WHAT YOU POST AND WHAT YOU DONT SO IF YOU DIDNT POST THAT THEN DONT WORRY ABOUT IT IT WASNT YOU..... CAUSE OBVIOUSLY YOU CANT TELL THE DIFERENCE BETWEE AN E AND A I.... :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy: :crazy:

[imported_DEADONE]

we just took all of our scrap cans and mixed them together and came out with 22, count em' 22 full cans of the dopest colors. woooooooooooohoooooooooooooooo.
RailRoaderz

[23578]

yeah, so did i deadone, came out with about 10 full cans or so (two ugly brownish grey colors:(), some partial cool colors, 14 with fucked up valves and with pressure problems (6 i knew were fucked beforehand), some partial rusto, aa that wouldn't empty using the pen tube, and about 20 new empties.

man, i really need one of the rusto mix tubes, i don't have the tools to fuck with the smart method and every time i get it it clogs like right away. the pen tube thing works for some of them however the others i had to deal with just aren't worth it.

[imported_dr. frink one]

all i know is i can't find the WD40 tips you kids are talking about...let me know if you know somewhere online i can get them...
or something else fun and usefull graffiti related

[perkism]

that shit is mad ill i always wonered how it was done i got mad scrap cans im gonna try it

[BOSTONIAN]

THIS THREAD IS FRESH. I APPRECIATE THE TECHNICS ON THE MIXING AND ABOUT YOU SMASHING SHIT UP OVER NOT MIXING THE RUSTOS. WE ALL HAVE THOSE DAYS. NO BIG THING..THANKS AGAIN FOR EVERYONES INPUT...PROPS..STAY UP

[Cracked Ass]

All of the questions on this page were asked and answered on earlier pages of the thread, so go back and look.

[23578]

Hold on, hold on, just one more. I got some cans that were obviously neglected in the past with mix tubes still inside after mixing, I've tried to get the little mountain of paint off the center of the valve using a scraping motion with a nail like object, but keep getting covered with paint. What's the deal? I'm about to throw them away because they are seriously fucked, nothing will come out because the little mountain prevents any flow into the cap/mix tube. I guess this is another time one of the dental tools would come in handy eh? Man the wisdom teeth just got a thousand times more painful.

[oilcanloyd]

"just made 22 full cans out of scraps" some dope ass greens oranges and purples!!!!! werd:loopy:

[wutangbanger]

NO DOUGHT I WAS MIXIN AN SUDDNTLY I GOT PAINT ALL OVER THE PLACE BUT IT WAS DOWN SOUTH IN KY AND I DINT GET PAINT ON ANY THANG EXCEPT MAH FACE AND ALL THE BEUTIFUL FLOWERS;)

[imported_super man 1]

mixing paint is the shit. when you come through with the dope colors and everyone is like where the fuck did you get that shit:idea:

[Secs Oner]

anyone have some insight on how i could mix a bright purpleish/pink shade?

[imported_IVO AKM KILLERZ]

i mix paint

[SelOneNJ]

why6 dont u just buy a fucken mix tip , it will save u all the trouble of making one . you can get one just about on evry online shop. peace

[miz303]

.ive read most of this thread it's takin me a few mouths but i didn't see this so im just going to ask, how do you mix a pittsburgh can into a krylon or aa or the other way around?The pitts can is a female,does anyone know?

[CIPHER_one]

On the homemade mixing tips (with the rusto fats) do the caps have to be inverted(one upside down and one right side up)? So one can is upside down and one rightside up? Or do you just have to regulate the temperatures and you're good to go?

[HAL]

No can do, on the pittsburgh paint, unless you can find a female tip that will fit on the can and take a mixing straw.

[SatAn's SluT]

Ok! this is how to make THE best mix tip for mixing from females to males or vice versa and it will only cost you 2 caps and a straw...

1. Get a german fat cap and pluck out the pink insert in the front... you can do this with a compass or something ese sharp...

2. Then get another cap (if you wanna mix two males then use another german fat cap and do the same thing) and pluck out the insert...

3. Then get an ink well from a PILOT GEL PEN and blow all of the ink out...

4. Cut a length of it: 3" or something, and pop both ends in the faces of the caps...

5. Get the lid of a BIC biro and set it alight... and drip the melting plastic around the base of the tubes were it meets the cap...

6. When this is dry cover with POLYSTYRENE CEMENT (modelling glue) it works really well at sealing the caps coz it melts the plastic together...

7. Then mix to your hearts content!!!

With a little bit of imagination and experimentation you can adapt this to almost any mixing scenario!

Hope this helps y'all out
PIECE -