Keeping spots chill

[cracked ass]

This issue obviously doesn't get addressed often enough, because I keep hearing about dumb shit going down and spots getting blown. All the veteran heads can skip this thread, except to add any minor points to think about or incidents where violation of these concepts brought heat to them personally. Anyone fairly new to trains should listen up. I'm going to talk at length about a bunch of related points.
THE MAIN ISSUE.
The main issue here is longevity of chill spots to paint freights. Any sane writer who is not a malicious shithead must agree that keeping a chill spot to piece freights is a good thing. The primary thing that blows spots is letting people (rail workers, cops, joe hero who walks his dog near the tracks and hates "taggers") know that painting gets done at that spot.
WITNESSES.
SOME rail workers hate graff and will report a spot getting hit to superiors/railcops/regular police. SOME passerby civilians hate graff and will call the cops about it if they see it being done. ALL cops are obviously down to nail writers. So: a significant percentage of people who see freights being painted, or can tell from evidence that they were painted right there, will take action. Maybe it's only ten or twenty percent, but so what? Why take the chance? This means 1) strive to be seen by zero people and 2) leave NO evidence around the train you just painted to clue people in that it was painted THERE instead of rolling in from someplace else. (This seems pretty basic, but there are plenty of people on this board who don't grasp it yet.)
DON'T GET SEEN.
Again, pretty obvious right? Not to some. To avoid being seen, paint only in a spot screened from most directions by trees, buildings, etc. Do not paint standing on a live track, because another train or one of those quiet, fast utility trucks on train wheels could roll on you. Remember, EVEN IF YOU CAN GET AWAY SUCCESSFULLY, IF YOU GOT SPOTTED PAINTING, YOU ATTRACTED ATTENTION AND HEAT TO THE SPOT. That fucks it up for you, which is only as bad as you think it is, but if other people paint that spot, you have fucked it up for them too, and they will be pissed off, cross you out, beat your head in, etc.
HISTORY/SENIORITY
If you're new to trains, the thing you need to understand is that if you find a spot to paint them, it may already be a regular spot for other heads in your area. They don't want their spot blown. They will not even like you painting there at all, because you have yet to prove you're smart enough not to fuck up the spot with dumb behavior. Also, they may have set their own limits on how many cars they'll hit per line that gets parked there, because hitting several trains in a row is a big clue to workers that painting occurs right there. When you piece there, you are possibly fucking with their rhythm.
This is not to say, don't hit any freight spot without permission. But do 2 things: one, observe the "chillness" advice I'm dropping here; and two, if senior heads confront you about painting their spot, respect what they have to say, whether it's "find another spot" or "don't paint the track side" or "don't hit more than 2 cars per line". If you don't respect the heads who have been hitting that spot before you, then welcome to beef.
THE DON'TS.
DON'T paint several cars in a row, or tag or bomb whole lines. Workers know that trains are always getting broken up and rearranged, and the exact same artwork on many cars in a row gives away that it was done right there.
DON'T leave empty cans at the spot, or get lazy about tossing them just a few feet out of sight. They will be seen by workers and noted. Dead giveaway.
DON'T test out your paint on the rocks, wall, ground, or rails right by the train. Another dead giveaway that painting happens right there. (I test my caps/cans on some unrelated part of the SAME car I am painting: the wheels or suspension, a pipe that hangs down, whatever.)
DON'T tag or bomb the walls, buildings, electrical boxes, trees or anything else near the yard, tracks, layup or wherever, unless the area is already crushed anyway. Another dead giveaway.
DON'T leave any other evidence besides the piece you just painted. Take your dirty glove away with you, throw it away somewhere else. If a can gushed or dripped on the rocks by the track, toss those rocks away, bury them, scatter em around, whatever.
DON'T paint over the numbers on freights - weight limits, reporting marks, hazmat info, or the little black box which is usually near the right end of the car as viewed from the side. This doesn't necessarily give a clue as to where the car was painted, but makes workers more interested in busting someone's ass. It also forces the railroad company to take the car out of service long enough to get those numbers restamped back on there, they are required by law to have that info displayed, and if the costs of repainting numbers add up enough they'll hire more railroad security and put heat on everyone.
RECON.
One thing you should do after finding a spot, but before painting it, is go down there with no paint on you, scope out the whole area: trees, paths, fences, escape routes, and not just the physical layout but stay awhile and/or check in several times a week to find out when it gets switched, what time local businesses close for the night, when trains go by, stuff like that that clues you in to a good time/way to hit it up.
CONCLUSION.
The goal is to not let anyone know that trains get painted at a certain spot. You want workers to think that any pieces on that line rolled in from somewhere else. And even if you do everything right, and they smell the fresh paint of the pieces, you might be okay anyway because, since you stayed off the numbers, didn't leave cans for them to trip over, etc. they won't care enough to report it.
Following these fairly simple guidelines keeps spots chill, avoids beef, and extends the life of the freight scene.

[VideoOner]

Well the spot i hit was a line of 3 cars, 2 tracks, seperated by a huge metal barrier, over a bridge, seperated from the engine... It wasn't a fucking spot... they were leavingt them there over night.

[Ski Mask]

have you staked out the spot? how do you know they arent "leaving them there overnight" on a regular basis? Just cause its not a spot you know about, doesnt mean it isnt a spot.

[cracked ass]

Chill out video, this wasn't just for you. There's plenty of newbies out there blundering around North America pissing people off by accident, just because nobody told them how to go about it. No harm in an early screwup in your career, but once you've heard how to do it, do it right.
Also, be aware that any place any train or train car stops for 20 minutes or longer is considered a "spot" to experienced heads, who regularly recon miles of track in their area looking for unusual opportunities.

[fr8oholic]

bump for the thoroughness of a pro.
read up fellas...

[eros]

thanks cracked, that actually really helps.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

don't be afraid to skip weeks/days etc., if they see the same pieces, and the same handstyles, every week, they could catch on. don't put yourself on a schedule to paint, if you do happen to get seen every so often going in, a person can say, watch such and such a spot on this day in between these hours. and FIND GOOD PARKING!

[VeganDraftDodgerY3K]

my yard rules. we get caught painting by the workers, and they try to get us to work at the yard on the weekends. im not kidding. they told us that if we give them disposable cameras, they will take pictures of dope pieces that pass through, and rare cars. i love my yard.

[fr8lover]

i have the luxury of having a large area, with a good amount of track, but usually only one train there at a time. i can take my time if i paint or spot, and nobody is around to give a shit...once in awhile a jogger comes by on a trail, i simply try to duck or the like if i see them...

[Frate Raper]

sounds to good to be true man.....

Another thing.....DON'T WRITE YOUR AREA CODE OR WHERE IT WAS PAINTED ON YOUR PEICE!

theirs a writer in my area that is sooooo quilty of that!


don't tell every tom dick and hairy where your spot is!

[rotten]

uh...i'm guilty of that. but that's coming from a city of a hundred some yards.


good job crackity crack

[This message has been edited by rotten (edited 11-30-2000).]

[23578]

i'm guilty of that as well. um...just one requestion about the numbers, maybe telling people doesn't get the point across, a picture would be nice. could someone post one to the bench.

some cars are covered with shit making it impossible to paint w/o going over something. until further notice i'll stay off of such cars.

[cracked ass]

I'll get a little more specific on the numbers. Let's say you're doing a Railbox, all you need to leave alone is this:

RBOX 32577

LD LMT 158400
LT WT 61600

Then on the far right side of the car is a small black box with just a few letters and numbers in it like AB, LUB 3-98...save that box.
Also necessary is the small box, which is usually up high enough to avoid, which says PLATE C (or F, or H, or some letter).
Hoppers and tankers present additional problems, they have valve psi, loading/unloading instructions, and on tankers there's hazmat info and the CHEMTREC 1-800 number. I try to avoid all of it. If I'm in a crabby mood I'll say fuck the small stuff on a hopper, but I don't touch anything printed on a hazmat tanker. Tanks I usually stick to small stamps, bombs, scrap pieces, even just tossups or tags.
Stuff I don't sweat, and will go over on any car, include 2IN HF COMP SHOE, 60K, REPAINTED 2-95 (which is kind of ironic), door dimensions, little stickers that warn workers not to let the door fall on their head when they open the car, and Jesus Saves streaks.

[23578]

yeah that explains it clearly enough for me, i guess i don't need a picture. thanks again racked.

[Mr. green]

do workers notice or care about streaks?

[I_Lock_Kids_In_My_SELER]

Goddamnit, Cracked Ass, how do you know so much about fucking trains and yards?

[boxcarwilly]

also watch for army boxes, they come around everyonce in a while, and are filled with lots of explosive stuff yes i have hit them but all you need is a little spark of anything and bye bye yard bye bye body etc... what other freight tips can i give, dress like a bum if painting in the day time then you can camp out like your blitzed if you get strolled upon, hmmm ummm if you go in the afternoon or morning and there is still light out or even at night the freight collector/train buff excuse works well dress nicely bring a camera know your train shit, impress the workers hang out about ten feet away from the tracks after they say its okay to take pics dont be an idiot, another wonderful cover is the girl... do it bring a girl hopefully she paints so she wont complain the entire time that she is cold and wwants to go to sleep... but if anyone asks you can just make out with her and say she has trainyard fantasies... this works well for streets too... a wheelchair works on the streets too... what else can i say. be smart... oh yeah never ever ever crawl under a stopped train, they settle and move sometims and if they get humped when you are under it you die... climb over them using the steps and ladders provided like the workers do...
[i][jober.jelosee]

[cracked ass]

badoomch

[fr8oholic]

invest in a high voltage cattle prod. i shocked a toy with one of these so many times recently his eyebrows smoked. and the little fucker had wack wack ass colors...

[dumb hot]

ahahahhahahahhaha

[dosoner]

thought i would share a way i think is a good way to find a "spot" this might work good for me, just because i live in the middle of nowhere, but iv found some dope place to paint, by following the tracks out of the yard, till they merge down to single track, alot of times, trains will stop at the beggining of the single track, and wait for a train coming the opposite way to be clear of the single track so there is no collisions. iv had lines stop for almost 45 mins, good painting ops. If i read cracks yard safty correctly, that is called "going in the hole" just be carful, cause you dont know when its gonna move, the workers might get off, bums might get on, and the train going the other way can go flyin by at a pretty fast speed, im sure iv seen em go by at like 60, so if your on that side of the stoped train, keep a good idea of whats comin down the track.

[B_As_In_Bot]

Cracked has mentioned many important thing which should be read over again. so Im gonna attempt to bump all this back up.
Thanks for taking the time to do that for us.

question: Any good tips on stashing a bike at a yard? So I dont have to lock it up, and so I can access its quickley. I guess im asking about good places to hide it. Some places have soundwalls .. Any other suggestions?

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[OMARNYCAKASW1]

NONE OF THESE RULES APPLY IN THE CONFINES OF NEW YORK CITY!
ESPECIALLY THIS ONE!
if senior heads confront you about painting their spot, respect what they have to say, whether it's "find another spot" or "don't paint the track side" or "don't hit more than 2 cars per line". If you don't respect the heads who have been hitting that spot before you, then welcome to beef.
I WONT NAME NAMES, BUT I HAVE BEEN TOLD NOT TO BURN THE 'XXX-UNNAMED CREW'S "yard"'
hahahahA, BOY DID I LAUGH MY ASS OFF


DON'T paint several cars in a row, or tag or bomb whole lines. Workers know that trains are always getting broken up and rearranged, and the exact same artwork on many cars in a row gives away that it was done right there.
DON'T leave empty cans at the spot, or get lazy about tossing them just a few feet out of sight. They will be seen by workers and noted. Dead giveaway.
DON'T test out your paint on the rocks, wall, ground, or rails right by the train. Another dead giveaway that painting happens right there. (I test my caps/cans on some unrelated part of the SAME car I am painting: the wheels or suspension, a pipe that hangs down, whatever.)
DON'T tag or bomb the walls, buildings, electrical boxes, trees or anything else near the yard, tracks, layup or wherever, unless the area is already crushed anyway. Another dead giveaway.
DON'T leave any other evidence besides the piece you just painted. Take your dirty glove away with you, throw it away somewhere else. If a can gushed or dripped on the rocks by the track, toss those rocks away, bury them, scatter em around, whatever.
DON'T paint over the numbers on freights - weight limits, reporting marks, hazmat info, or the little black box which is usually near the right end of the car as viewed from the side. This doesn't necessarily give a clue as to where the car was painted, but makes workers more interested in busting someone's ass. It also forces the railroad company to take the car out of service long enough to get those numbers restamped back on there, they are required by law to have that info displayed, and if the costs of repainting numbers add up enough they'll hire more railroad security and put heat on everyone.

[SNOee]

Cracked, you are a really good guy. Thank you.

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[imported_phax]

this is loosely related since this topic is to instruct new comers to freights and what not, but how long should you be bombing on walls and what not before you come to the tracks, i'm obviously not ready, but curious on this issue... thanks.

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[cracked ass]

It's really up to you, but REMEMBER: your freights can run a long, long time, and they will travel the nation. So if your early freights are wack, you are advertising all over the place how bad you are, and it's unlikely you'll ever be able to find and go over the thing like you can with your wall pieces that embarass you. On steel, the toy legacy lasts and lasts.
So, rock walls till you feel comfortable and confident with your style and favorite equipment setup, then research spots and go for it. Heed the yard safety stuff and this thread in particular.
Unless, of course, you're in NYC, where nothing lasts, everybody does whatever they please, and beef is king. The freight spots there are all fried anyway, and still get done despite being fried.

[cracked ass]

Bump izm

[painted black]

please don't do that cracked. not like it's the most important chunk of information to be handed over the internet but it's the point behind it. tease, you should ask him this in an email. i can't stand the "yard" section on this board because it blatantly gives out techniques and ways of getting over to everybody and anybody who reads this board. too much has already been said, and you think it hasn't been noted? stuff like how to do billboards, what to look like when bombing, etc etc...that kind of stuff you learn from experience, observation, or by word of mouth in person. i know this will get overlooked, and i don't mean to rag on anyone, but just remember that when you give out tips on this board you're giving them out to everybody.

[KAKALAK RAMBLER]

this is true

[kidlugz]

it's common sense too. alot of people are just too stupid or lazy to do the thinking for themselves.

[defyoner]

my werds-
1.find a good spot..
1a.i mean search for one, one that no one else knows about.
2. only keep it to your self or between a few friends.
3. make sure that it is easy to get in and out of with out being seen..
......
thanks cracked ass for keeping shit real

[ibteaseone]

Originally posted by painted black:
please don't do that cracked. not like it's the most important chunk of information to be handed over the internet but it's the point behind it. tease, you should ask him this in an email. i can't stand the "yard" section on this board because it blatantly gives out techniques and ways of getting over to everybody and anybody who reads this board. too much has already been said, and you think it hasn't been noted? stuff like how to do billboards, what to look like when bombing, etc etc...that kind of stuff you learn from experience, observation, or by word of mouth in person. i know this will get overlooked, and i don't mean to rag on anyone, but just remember that when you give out tips on this board you're giving them out to everybody.


good point, sorry.

[taper]

cracked is on point

[imported_ECROSBAKWARDS]

YEA DONT BLOW UP SPOTS U HAVE 2 BE COOL AND SLICK ABOUT IT DONT MAKE ANY LOUD NOISES OR NE THING AND SCOPE THE PLACE OUT FIRST WHEREVER YOU ARE PAINTING.THAT IS THE BEST THING U CAN EVER DO.ANOTHER THING THAT I THINK IS WACK IS BEEFING AT A YARD THAT BLOWS UP SPOTS.IF U ARE NOT DISSING ANY1 U SHOULDNT GET BITCHED AT AND IF U REALLY WANT 2 FIGHT TAKE IT OUT 2 THE STREETS ITS BETTER THAN BLOWING SPOTS UP.AND ANOTHER THING IS DONT BE THROWING YOUR CANS AROUND OR LEAVING CANS AROUND.THEY CAN KEEP THE CANS AS EVIDENCE AND IT SHOWS THAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN THERE PAINTING,ALSO ITS NOT GOOD 2 KEEP CANS LAYING AROUND SO SOME TOY CAN GET AHOLD OF IT AND BLOW THE SPOT UP.I COULD SAY ALOT MORE BUT THATS ALL 4 NOW

[ibteaseone]

cracked check your mail goat...

[cracked ass]

I don't have a mail goat, I use carrier pigeons.

[cracked ass]

This information remains current.

[cracked ass]

Tease: your question was already answered by the first people you talked to. There's no magic answer, so stick to whatever is obviously low-key.

[PaintHonkyTrash]

Originally posted by BIGMETALCIRCUS:
FIND GOOD PARKING!


One of the best tips, I learned the hard way too, coming back to my truck I had cops all over my truck, took the licence and ran my car and ended up calling my dad about his car being stolden and I sat there and watched for like the 30 mins. it took to happen and when i got home my pops wasnt to happy about the whole deal of me being out after 2 and having the cops call numerous times so find a good spot.

That and pack out what you pack in, try to keep anything from pissing anyone off and they will never notice.

[cracked ass]

Shoved back to the top...

[ACKAWARE]

Cracked that shit was really helpful. thanks.
keep it real.

[imported_El Mas Sucio De Todos]

bump... read and respect... if not, i'll go over your stuff...

[UltraWSO]

Another good trick to keeping youre yard chill is to try and figure out which trains are going to leave first. In most cases this shouldnt be too hard, maybe its an easy rotation pattern or you know the particular trains arent going to hang around. Some yards around here have cards inserted into slots on the side of the trains, so you know exactly which ones are going first.
Hit the train that is leaving first, that way the evidence is the fuck out of there before too much of the public notice. The other advantage of doing this, of course, is more hours/days running time for youre peice..

[sectorTVA]

its true...
workers here (the late shift) tell me that they dont care about graffiti, just as long as the cans are picked up. they told me that at night they sometimes trip over cans that are left in the yard. i went ahead and removed a majority of the cans that were in the yard...its not too big, but alot of kids paint there and have no idea about the freight scene.

[imported_El Mas Sucio De Todos]

what sector did is a good idea... i usually bring extra bags with me in case cans explode, to put my mask, whatever. but after painting on my way out i fill whatever i have left with cans and caps... every little helps http://www.12ozprophet.com/ubb//smile.gif

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Onward to Golgotha

[imported_xhobox]

here's some stuff i've come up with that wasn't mentioned...

keep an eye on trains that appear to be owned locally or by the yard... where i'm living now all of the locals are completely covered in tags and pieces... this basically tells everyone that sees it that the yard gets painted by certain writers... the funny thing is is that the writers that do that sort of thing are supposedly "expirienced"... there are battles being dragged out on these local freights as well... it's all pretty retarded...

the locals can usually be identified by the numbers... having an x after the numbers usually tells you... but doing recon like cracked said is probably the best way to tell for sure...

another thing i'd like to mention about worker relations... sometimes it's best not to say you are a rail fan... i've heard that some workers think that rail fans are fucked up in the head or something... this may not be true but i figure it should be noted... using a variety of excuses comes in handy... i usually just say i'm taking pictures for a model train set i'm working on... or the ever popular art class excuse works good...

[cracked ass]

Yeah, don't go overboard about being a railfan to workers. I wouldn't even use the term "railfan" to a worker. Just say you like to see freights roll. Workers often think railfans are a little nutso, or at least geeks. They work all day around trains and have developed a sort of friendly contempt for the steel that surrounds them, so little goofballs coming up and getting all excited and taking flicks of engines will often register high on their geek-o-meter.

[imported_SenorSeven]

bump for the idiots.

[imported_Flubug Starski]

Buh.....Ump.

[cracked ass]

Bumped for no particular reason.

[imported_YUshook]

i get so excited when i see a fr8 i get a hard on and piss my pants. am i a "RAILFAN?"

[imported_YUshook]

good post cracked

[imported_nipples-galore]

excellent post.
soooooo many people need to learn those rules.........thank you Cracked!

[cracked ass]

Bumped for the scuba doctor.

[cracked ass]

I might add, this info is timeless, and I wish more newbies saw this first. My favorite boondock layup was just discovered by some pathetic punk ass bitch toys of the lowest order, and they broke every one of the rules I listed. They hit every car, painted the bridge, left cans in three places, went over one of my boys, and sidebusted another with the following color scheme (all shit brands): cherry red, hunter green, glossy white. It was my great pleasure to burn the fuck out of the sidebust, but a hollow victory, because the damage is done. Spread the word on this topic.

[imported_Scuba Doc]

thanks ass.

[imported_Oh Im Sorry]

My dad was a "railfan", killed in action..................god bless that man "choo-choo"

[Average White Railfan]

WOW...great fucking post. ive repeated all that shit and more to heads and im starting to see kids take heed. right down to the propper way to cross a train. anyway i thought of a whole bunch of shit to add about parking, daytime spots and night fliks, but i cant divulge all the tricks of the trade to the cops watching this board. peace to all the heads out there who take this freight shit serious.

[Frate Raper]

I hit a really sketchy spot...and it was just starting to simer down and BAM this fucking cunt tagged a bunch of shit and HIT EVERY TRUCK HE COULD WITH STUPID QOUTES.


I am seriously going to break arms..and if any out of town fucks come thru to try again and ruin it once again some blood will be shedd.

EVERY ONE LISTEN TO CRACKED MAN KNOWS HIS SHIT...CAUSE IF YOU DON;T THEIRS GUYS LIKE ME THAT WILL BE THEIR TO HURT YOU!

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[imported_Nappyfr8basterd]

FOr your own personal saftey, especially if your yard is kind of hot or you can't do a bag drop and have to walk with your paint, on the way out you should tear your gloves in to as many pieces as you can. use your teeth, they taste like shit but gloves are used to keap paint off your hands and if your busted with painted gloves it's as bad as having the paint on your skin. scatter the rubber around it will just look like trash. Try and keep it off the tracks as much as possible.

[6000]

thanks to cracked ass and any other contributors for all the info and advice. i have never painted freights and am glad to have read this before even thinking about it.

6K
sick.
skay.

[imported_IwearPinkShirts]

cracked. i really enjoy your threads alot. cause i get bored as hell and the long replies take alot of time to read and are informational. thanks. time for shuteye.

[imported_PIRone716]

thanks cracked,i'm gald that you made this a thread,that has lasted for so long.

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[imported_PIRone716]

back to the top

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[imported_FR8 LIFE]

THANKS FOR THE INFO IT HELPS

[imported_HotRod]

Originally posted by Nappyfr8basterd:
FOr your own personal saftey, especially if your yard is kind of hot or you can't do a bag drop and have to walk with your paint, on the way out you should tear your gloves in to as many pieces as you can. use your teeth, they taste like shit but gloves are used to keap paint off your hands and if your busted with painted gloves it's as bad as having the paint on your skin. scatter the rubber around it will just look like trash. Try and keep it off the tracks as much as possible.
EWW Gross! You mean to tell me you chew up your paint soaked latex gloves? I just fill em up with rocks and toss em on top of the train, that way they will fall off the side when the train is movin really fast somewhere far, far away. Do you also chew up yer spent condoms so your girls dad won't find em?

[Fox Mulder]

i think that had been mentioned

[T.T Boy]

back up there...

[ZackAttack]

Hopefully this tip wasn't on the second page, because I really didn't feel like reading that whole page.

Anyways, my tip (which i didn't make up for damn sure) is:

If you really want to paint a car that has the letters and numbers that shouldn't be painted over/ that will be pulled and stamped, do one thing:
Take masking tape with you, and cover the #'s up completely, then paint like it was fine and then when you're done, flick it then remove the tape http://www.12ozprophet.com/ubb//smile.gif

Take it easy guys, cover those fuckin freights
00000OOOOOOOOOOOOOOooooooooo
peace
zak2

[imported_SenorSeven]

i must reply...shit brands "rock" fuck people who are "brand name jockies"....eh..this irrelevant...to the topic..but it was mentioned so i replied..

[mental invalid]

....this should be required readin for the site...a 101 class...thanks cracked....

..rOe

[Average White Railfan]

I hate name brands....thats why I only use rusto

[imported_SenorSeven]

if you really carry masking tape out to the yard when you paint..you've got way to much time on your hands....who cares if it gets stamped....like it really matters...id laugh if i saw someone doing it so their freight could run longer....its called just DODGE the numbers...if you can rock your style..its easy to do that...regardless....of the situation

[BISHOP]

the rule that i stick by is keep your spots to yourself. the more fr8s other heads paint at a spot the less you can. if other heads know about the spot, let them know that no one goes there without you and if they do it will resolve with beef on a hot skillit.

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[HESHIANDET]

the whole point of trying to stay off the numbers is to save the r.r. money. The r.r. saving money is good for us, annnnd our pieces won't get smizacked. got it? good.

-bump for me picking up caps and cans in a layup that is just getting new life breathed into it. if this spot gets burnt up again im gonna be upset

[cocaine & hookers]

Originally posted by HESHIANDET:
the whole point of trying to stay off the numbers is to save the r.r. money. The r.r. saving money is good for us, annnnd our pieces won't get smizacked. got it? good.

-bump for me picking up caps and cans in a layup that is just getting new life breathed into it. if this spot gets burnt up again im gonna be upset


here's the answer if it gets heated hesh..

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Prior to being edited, this post took up way too much space and had nothing to do with keeping spots chill.



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[my sweetheart, the drunk]

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[imported_DEADONE]

i never tell any of the young dummys where my train spots are. i took one of them to this super chill spot then he went back with all of his toy friends and blew it up so we cant paint there any more. so a big fuck off to them

[imported_why me]

the best way to keep a yard chill is to 1.dont kill every fr8
2.dont tell noone were you paint
3.if anyone starts going in there be a man kick them out.(hold down your fort)
4.if fools keep coming in after being told to leave paint check them punks.
5.never leave your cans in a boxcar,or in the yard(better place them joints in a burger king trash on the way home)

i dont care if anyone diss likes what i do i do these things for myself.so that i will be able to hit steel foever.without the cops,train workers,anyone to roll me up...

[imported_JELO_016]

Yo Cracked I like Gloss White...

[cracked ass]

Originally posted by JELO_016:
Yo Cracked I like Gloss White...

Hahaha...not the way this fool used it, you don't.

[LICKERISH]

what about the latches ???????

[LICKERISH]

what about latches ?

[LICKERISH]

sorry for asking twice

[brown twinkie]

interesting read.
upski

[drewWrite]

good info

[imported_Flubug Starski]

^

[SmellyCouch]

delete:(

[Cracked Ass]

Bumped, mostly for the first page worth of info.

[Ser3adc]

cracked...thats alot man...that info really helped me alot. i've only been to my local yard to paint once...and i learned alotta shit the hard way. getting spotted sucked but i guess it's better that it happened to me on my first time...so it won't happen again. thanks again.

[WITS]

Nevermind.

[Fox Mulder]

i believe you about painting it in 95/96 but if i just ran into some dude at night like that and he told me "oh yeah man i was painting this spot 5 years ago" i would think your just being an asshole.

[WITS]

Yeah I would thik that too. Because one of the first things they said to us was that they had been painting that spot for ' a few years'.. Which is a lie unless they started like the day after I moved. but I didn't mention that I'd been painting there for a while until they said we were blowing the spot etc. I just wanted them to know I wasn't some sucker without a clue you know? Me doing a piece on a wall in 97 isn't gonna blow the fucking spot. I did forget to pick up like 2 empties one night but the ground has more than a few cans now.. Not mine. Oh well. I erased that shit anyway.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Originally posted by LICKERISH
what about latches ?
... dont paint over the little ties on the doors, the things that look like sophisticated bread ties that are on the latches. those things are a good way of telling if the trains been unloaded or not as well.

[T.T Boy]

good point big metal. those are a sure thing to watch out for. they use those things when they unload the shipment, if its covered in paint, theyll just think of where they parked it and boom, there ya go.

[imported_FR8 LIFE]

man my lay-up is pretty chill i know a few other kids know about the spot and paint there but there always good about keepin it chill... but to day i go there and see empty cans on the ground (wallmart paint) and see this shityest garbage non sense toy bullshit fuckin tags all down the whole line and dumb shit like "smoke weed 420" it made me so mad its such dope spot witch is now most likely ruined.. i think kids that do that sould have their little fingers crazy glued on to the tracks and have a CN AC4400 run them over.. just a thought

[VAITOMANOCU]

^^^^^^^^ amen to that

some kids apparently came thru to our nice lil peaceful yard where many hours of endless joy have been spent decorating cars...we show up one day to find the whole area had been marked with hollows with some wack shit.....i guess what comes around goes around right?

[toyeraser]

hell yeah dude! some piece of shit toy i know who actually used to be from my crew burned my best piecing yard. he got the boot, but i still haven't found that fat piece of shit. 187 on a toy. i highly suggest that if any toys paint your spot, don't be a nice guy faggot trying to play the jedi master role. sock that fucken toy in the eye and stomp his nuts when he goes down! if you can't catch him slippin... write "toy" in all his shit and diss the fuck out of it. he might come back and do the same to you, but he'll give up in less than a year and stop going there. you probably can rely on other spots in the meantime and comeback there in a year or two. alternating spots. but get that fucken toy and crack his head if you can. if he's bigger than you use a weapon. happy hunting...

[E-DubleSkilZ]

Who Died and made u the KING OF FREIGHTS craked head cracked ass craphead!! If your so worried about kids burning out your yard then scope it out and CHeck the fools who are burning it. Like TOYERASER said.

I dont care how many freights you have painted. I hate people who think they are the kings of their domain.Go into the city and catch a real spot.

[vynlone]

so your gonna stamp some little kids head because he is ruining your spots? Just be careful as toys don't know the rule "never be a dirty punk faggot grass". This is to that wanker I slapped for dogging me and then he grassed me up. FUCK YOU !

[Cracked Ass]

Originally posted by TonySuprano
Who Died and made u the KING OF FREIGHTS craked head cracked ass craphead!! If your so worried about kids burning out your yard then scope it out and CHeck the fools who are burning it. Like TOYERASER said.

I dont care how many freights you have painted. I hate people who think they are the kings of their domain.Go into the city and catch a real spot.

I never claimed to be king of anything. And I do police my spots. I just drop info on here so newjacks and others who don't understand how to keep freight action on the DL for as long as possible can figure some things out rather than blow their own spots the first time out.

[imported_joewelcome]

"We mock what we don't understand." -Austin Milbarge
"Yeah." -Emmet Fitz-Hume

[porque]

...good advice... most of this stuff i figured out the hard way since i didn't know anyone when i started doing freights...i think taping numbers off is a good idea...epecially the lt wt and ld wt numbers this way you have a bigger area to work with on the panel...but sometimes it's more fun to be creative and go around them... workers think railfans are geeks because railfans are geeks... but at the same time they know so much useful information about trains... i met some that told me tons of info about when they switch trains, where they're going and all that kind of shit about this one spot i know... but they are definately geeks...

[TEE_rase_war]

This makes me feel sad..and for the following reasons.

-I have a small layup close to my house, about a 10 min walk away.
-This place is chill, i can paint during the day/ night/ weekends/ weekdays
-anyway some kids tagged the wall behind the layup and this was about 2 years ago so nobody was really choked about it, i was, but im really too lazy to go down and match the buff color and buff the wall

-and until recently, some cat i brought there has started bringing his other friends of whom are in gr 8 and who dont know trains at all..


needless to say, sometimes the only reason i got there is to clean up the mess these fuckers leave...anyway im just venting...


but it is so important to know what the fuck is up with trains yards...and if you paint a yard more than once, you are returning to the scene of a crime....which is bad news. so watch your ass...

[12345678]

geez Im old.

[JIB37]

... or anybody else who has considered it.

Let's say you paint spots that are not chill, and you don't have a car, so the commute can be just as dangerous as the mission itself.

Now let's say I don't want to take the cans out with me. Can I put them in a gondola of something, or even better throw them into a train that is already moving? They will get found by a workbum or factory worker, but they will be anywhere from 2 to 2000 miles away when they are found, therefore they are not found in the spot, and people don't know where they were used.

Would you consider this responsible and acceptable behavior? And to eb extra careful, let's say I wipe the cans down before I put them in the train.

What do you think?

[Cracked Ass]

Sounds sensible to me. Just pick a gondola that you know runs, rather than a dead car that will never leave.

[IntangibleFame]

bump to you cracked ass for tellin em how it is...

[Anjel26]

i agree go u . smile and be happy ahh just seeing if this works i guess it dose.

[HOTGIRL1]

is... that... right?

[FLESHEATER]

Originally posted by FR8 LIFE
man my lay-up is pretty chill i know a few other kids know about the spot and paint there but there always good about keepin it chill... but to day i go there and see empty cans on the ground (wallmart paint) and see this shityest garbage non sense toy bullshit fuckin tags all down the whole line and dumb shit like "smoke weed 420" it made me so mad its such dope spot witch is now most likely ruined.. i think kids that do that sould have their little fingers crazy glued on to the tracks and have a CN AC4400 run them over.. just a thought


LOL .. TAKE THEM RUGRATS OUT OF SERVICE

[shesmyheroin]

went on vacation to visit my girlfriend who lives over 6 hours away. shitty. but anyway. i decide to hit up a layup in her town. she lives in a ghost town that does tons of government shipping... so there's frieghts just sitting everywhere. i actually struggled to find graff in the city. the building where the layup was was bombed by a writer... but it looked like it was from 1912.

i checked the spot out in the day... walked the tracks for a bit... there were 4 tracks i think. one running into an amtrak track. anyway... the spot seemed chill during the day. real chill actually. there was no one there. no one dropping off cars... no one picking up cars... and every car that was there... was a virgin. never been touched by a can of paint.

so i went back at night. and started my piece. the only thing that seperated me and the track in back of me was a small patch of bushes. nothing high enough to hide in.

my piece was coming out quite nice... i had the fill finished, the outline finished, almost done the 3d.... and then i was just going to throw up a nice quick iris blue forcefield, flick and walk away... when a train started coming relatively fast on the track in back of me. my mind went blank for a second, as to where to go. i was thinking of running around the car i was painting [ as it was the first in line ], but i didn't know if the train was dropping off cars... so i turned and ran across the tracks. when doing so... i stumbled. the bushes dipped down a little bit causing me to be confused as to where my feet were going to be placed, and fell hard knees first onto a track of an oncoming train. my can of rusto scattered out of my hand and down the track. to make a long story short... i seriously just made it off the track. and ran to my car. my knees were bruised as hell. they still are. this happened almost 2 1/2 weeks ago.

so... the moral of this story is... you can be smart. you can observe your spots. you can do everything imaginable... but the best thing to do... is to always think the worst and have an escape route for every possible situation. which i didn't. because i was down there earlier that day for a good amount of time... and nothing rolled in. i wasn't expecting to have to run from a train like i did.

hope this helps some youngsters out. paint chill. and paint safe.

xo

[Wind]

im loving the tips

[fatrednecks]

definetly sucks when a spot gets blown up.....

[swiss cheese]

This doesnt just apply to freight spots, but all spots. I had a certain chill bridge spot that only I pieced at for a long time. Then some kids come down there and start tagging shit, doing throwups, and attracting attention. Now they tell all their gay friends, and go over my shit. cops come and check the place once and awhile. BLOWN UP.
Time for a new spot.

[footsoldier]

i love this thread

[Zinasta]

Im in Australia n thats pretty good ideas said there.
props for taking the time to write it all.
Its all true, dont cap their No's on the cars n dont leave evidence of thrashin the spots.
peace Zina ...One Heavy Addiction..

[KsM]

pretty kewl..................dope and shit..........

[*die*]

Originally posted by shesmyheroin
. paint chill. and paint safe.

xo
i find that best to keep my paint chill is to store in a freezer on odd days of the week:cool:

[VAITOMANOCU]

if you have a routine you do to stay safe, do not get lazy with it and slack off...because i think that tends to happen to people in general...stick to the safe side of things, which is just to use common sense, and do not get lazy

[deepsouth]

eh first i just want to give a big ass thanks to Cracked, and ese, and all the other cats that post up info for the writers that plan on doing this for a long time and do it b/c they love it. (I love you fuckin guys.....bump GIA) But my question is say that their is a yard but the company that owns it is now shutdown will their still be fr8s strollin through or what? and also this spot was kinda hot back in the day and now nothing but bums sleep there eating vienna sausages.

[ReSoN]

thanks, thanks thanks....couldnt have asked for more...

[esoteric]

...well except for your piece. There are certain people in a yard in CO I visited who thought it would be cute to leave cans in the suspension, like in the crook bet. the wheels. I know who it was too b/c the same color was on the piece above these wheels. STOP IT!!! Everyone also seems to think that even if they arent tagging anything besides the train, its ok to leave lids, tips, and gloves. NO!!!:mad: The best thing to do also is clean up the other idiot's mess. I cant even tell you how many times I have packed out like 2 shoppng bags of empties and I am sick of it.

[TEEHEEHEE]

i have a chilled spot and i seem to be the only person that cares at all about the spot "staying chill" so goddamn i'm off there tomorro and i'm cleaning it up :)

[wiseguy]

i think that i know the yard that you are talking about, it would be cool to be out there now...

[TEEHEEHEE]

i'm talkin' "wee tee" yeah? and i didn't actually go clean it up, but i did an end to end there :D . But i was all like..... :heated:

when i went back with facial hair boy to look at it and they had moved it out,
but it'll be chill when you're back.

[wiseguy]

i understand all your code talking... cant wait to see you back home... reclaim my dumb drunkard status.:D

[razeagainst]

people who leave trash and evidence of graff at fr8 spots are fucking idiots and deserve to get beat tha fuck down.... straight up, it'd be good 4 'em.

[NOTTS1]

if u want to carry on painting a certain spot then its wise to keep it chill man fuk leaving cans n gloves round. if it were commuter trains n u were well known ud be banged up straight.

[ima_bum]

This is not to say, don't hit any freight spot without permission. But do 2 things: one, observe the "chillness" advice I'm dropping here; and two, if senior heads confront you about painting their spot, respect what they have to say, whether it's "find another spot" or "don't paint the track side" or "don't hit more than 2 cars per line". If you don't respect the heads who have been hitting that spot before you, then welcome to beef. what the hell is this crap??? who in the hell would ask permission to hit a spot??!!

[xwibxonex]

aright cracked, answer this, i am in smaller town. i've read the posts, theyre good info for the new jacks, i've been into freights about a year, i suppose I am in a good position, knowing not to cross under, always keeping watch and everything,not hitting numbers blah blah and at first site of a worker, im out of there, quick and silent, but i need to know.
these guys that are driving the rails in big blue trucks, bulls? or regular workers. I doubt any other people in town are even hitting freights at all, so the yards are mine, I take great care of my 7 spots, and rotate them not to draw too much attention. the other night, at one of the newer spots i've grown quite fond of, there's little light, and it's off of a road which isn't very populated, anyway, i was with a friend, we'll call him jason, jasons keeping watch, awaiting his turn to peice. he notices a car coming along the road, not paying much attention, but giving me the heads up just be ready to roll. the car slows and pulls into a gravel driveway connecting to the gravel road which runs along the tracks and slows. at this point it is about 3 blocks from us, i hide the bag, and we run to the other side of a little white building, not visible from what we now recognized as a blue truck. he gets on the gravel road that runsd along the tracks and speeds up and just drives all the way down to the end. WHAT was this, a blue truck, with DM and E on it, i think yellow lights at the top, not sure though. any help is appreciated. anyway we ended up dipping out

[BigOatser]

Who cares...




If somebody doesn't know shit before they paint trains then:


A. They will get caught.

or

B. Their shitty peice will be buffed.



heres a point, don't do graffiti period because it blows it up for people who do graffiti.

[Cracked Ass]

Could have been a bull or a worker. Either way, dipping was the solution. Not much more to say. Except DME stands for Dakota, Minnesota and Eastern, a smaller RR which may or may not still be in existence.

[xwibxonex]

oh no man, theyre still in existance, it's very much a part of our small town agriculture productioin and transportation, if it werent for the wheat processors using and transporting these goods, many farmers would not be able to make a living i'm sure, yes it is a smaller one, but they are in fact trying to expand and make the main line come through town, i dont want oo say much else, but good looking out cracked, im doing everything i can to keep it unknown that there is painting going on, watching everything very close and not taking risks is the key as i've assumed from the beginning of my painting career, good looking out cracked.

these stories of people finding cans littered throughout the tracks is amazing, i used to live in the northwest, in a bigger city, but i moved here before i got into hitting freights, wehn i go back to visit i'll have to check out the yards to see exactly how popluated these cities really are with writers.

[certski]

this thread needs to be viewed by every writer
big bump for the man with the advice

[beltonian]

I think many more people should read threads like this.. you would think that no one would be stupid enough to do half of the things mentioned here.. but they will. Recently in the 305.. a toy crew called EP must have been reading a few too many magazines.. and they decided to try to paint trains.. so.. of course being the rail-experts they were, they instinctively painted every car with their incredibly wak throwups, made sure to cover every piece from both local and out of town writers and every set of numbers from car id to weight information and of course tons of streaks (thankfully i flicked these beforehand..) and then were polite enough to leave behind their caps as souveniers.
Seems like they were so happy about the experience that they invited some other friends, who happily followed later on, and despite all of their wisdom.. managed to get caught at the spot. I was really upset to hear about that. Fucking toys killing spots. The sickest part is that some of these faggots supposedly lurk on this board, and so they most likely have read these spots about railroad do's and dont's.
The next time these kids feel like letting off some steam during the long, confusing period of puberty theyre going through, I hope they stomp a fucking barbie doll instead.

[arc7hyp-1]

what makes me laugh is when people tell you to keep it clean and then turn around and leave a pile of krylon cans and lids on the trackside.
fuckin idiots
maybe when my moms unemployment check comes in she can buy me some krylon for the freights

[Mr.Clean]

damn, thats some good advice all around. thanks!

[IRON HEAD]

Even tho i have quiet a bit of knowledge bout fr8's n how they work... big ups to Cracked Ass... you know your shit man... thanks a lot...

Always keep a spot chill! :king:

[IRON HEAD]

Even tho i have quiet a bit of knowledge bout fr8's n how they work... big ups to Cracked Ass... you know your shit man... thanks a lot...

Always keep a spot chill! :king:

[OptimusPrime]

i MUST reiterate this...CLEAN YOUR SHIT UP! think heist movie.

be safe, freshmen...

:king:

[r6e]

All the "Port of Tacoma" yards are dangerous now, just last week me and my boy CLEP got jacked and almost beat up.

[kOmByN]

one time for cracked ass!!!

[The Boss]

Originally posted by cracked ass
I'll get a little more specific on the numbers. Let's say you're doing a Railbox, all you need to leave alone is this:

RBOX 32577

LD LMT 158400
LT WT 61600

Then on the far right side of the car is a small black box with just a few letters and numbers in it like AB, LUB 3-98...save that box.
Also necessary is the small box, which is usually up high enough to avoid, which says PLATE C (or F, or H, or some letter).
Hoppers and tankers present additional problems, they have valve psi, loading/unloading instructions, and on tankers there's hazmat info and the CHEMTREC 1-800 number. I try to avoid all of it. If I'm in a crabby mood I'll say fuck the small stuff on a hopper, but I don't touch anything printed on a hazmat tanker. Tanks I usually stick to small stamps, bombs, scrap pieces, even just tossups or tags.
Stuff I don't sweat, and will go over on any car, include 2IN HF COMP SHOE, 60K, REPAINTED 2-95 (which is kind of ironic), door dimensions, little stickers that warn workers not to let the door fall on their head when they open the car, and Jesus Saves streaks.
rbox is ruthless...they stamp everything...look at this link...see what they stamped...
:king:
[img]http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00328002f00000287.jpg'>

[$$$$$$$$$$$$]

Originally posted by r6e
All the "Port of Tacoma" yards are dangerous now, just last week me and my boy CLEP got jacked and almost beat up.

That is why you fuck around and bring a 9 up in your spot, i never go painting without at lease a bottle of pepper spray and a hammer in my pocket.

[king kong]

where im from those rules are not followed
the warehouses around the yard get bombed
heavily, faggets paint during the day and
make too much noise and get spotted from far
and new comers go over the train numbers
like its all good forcing dt'z to set up shop
for survelliance...bump this thread 4sheez.

[kasto.tst]

this has all been finally addressed,thank god. its all good info kids and you probably want to go hit frieght way more now. dont get caught up, some writers will whup dat ass if they find you in their yard, im one of them. this is the best way to keep your yard clean and happy. kill anyone you find. most yards are only room enough for one krew.if your not at the top of the food chain you may want to be careful.

[maskedvandal]

always keep ne spot chill wtf who wants to catch a charge??

[unclemighty]

you might of said before but how can i tell the diff. between workers/bull?can you tell by the truck?my boy and i see trucks in the yard all the time but some have the wheels that go on the tracks and some dont most have lights on them.alot chill for a long time most come and go varry fast if thay dont chill[if that has any thing to do w/it]

[ODS-1]

I'm starting to think freights might not be worth it. Besisdes, no chill yards in my town.

[Southern kid]

Originally posted by kasto.tst
this has all been finally addressed,thank god. its all good info kids and you probably want to go hit frieght way more now. dont get caught up, some writers will whup dat ass if they find you in their yard, im one of them. this is the best way to keep your yard clean and happy. kill anyone you find. most yards are only room enough for one krew.if your not at the top of the food chain you may want to be careful.

This is good advice. However, most of the kids who need to heed it think they're the shit anyway. Maybe two black eyes and four missing teeth will change their mind but probably not.

Forever crossing out and painting over the newjacks.

[brown towel]

Yes...a few smacks and a kick will teach trespassing toys a lesson.

[xwibxonex]

Originally posted by unclemighty
you might of said before but how can i tell the diff. between workers/bull?can you tell by the truck?my boy and i see trucks in the yard all the time but some have the wheels that go on the tracks and some dont most have lights on them.alot chill for a long time most come and go varry fast if thay dont chill[if that has any thing to do w/it]

the trucks that go down onto the tracks and are mechanics mostly that i know of , they have a switch they pull back and are equipped with a meter of some sort that gives them readings of i think elevation in the tracks so they can see if they need to call a crew out to fix a tie here or there, that's just here though, could be different somewhere else.

[anvillan]

this question is for cracked ass or anyone who may know the answer,
do box trucks/semis have numbers on them..numbers that if you paint over will encourage them to buff it or take it out of comission til its clean? just wondering for future refernece.

[ODS-1]

Box trucks and semis, you gotta be careful cause the drivers sleep in da cabinz.

[peter N0rth]

I DIDNT READ ALL THIS SHIT BUT ALL I HAVE TO CONTRIBUTE TO THIS IS THAT YOU SHOULDNT HIT CONDUTORS. I KILLED A SPOT DOING THAT. AND TO THE DUDE THAT SAID YOU SHOULD MESS AROUND WITH GILS, IF I HAD A NICKEL EVERY TIME I DID THAT, ID AVE TEN CENTS. I GOT IT FROM THE FACULTY!!!

[amish son]

Originally posted by peter N0rth
YOU SHOULDNT HIT CONDUTORS.

i agree

[shake em off]

lovely advice..couldn't have said it better myself

[causinpanic]

yea always check your spots. its always hard to give up a yard.

[beestur.]

very good point.....main thing if you go to a spot, make it look like you were never there when you leave, make sure you know your shit about that spot too.

[Locofanclub]

<span style='color:purple'>From over here, id like to add never take "your" yard/spot forgranted.Keep it clean & dont bomb the shit of a safe spot, that makes it hotter than tandori chicken!</span> :heated:

[bornmad]

i have this yard i been painting at for a while now.. i try not to go to that same yard all the time.. it connects to other parked trains so i can switch shit up... i always wondered why the spot never got crushed.. and i just figured i wouldnt fuck with it either..

good common sense .. but us devilish demon kids love to break rules... haha stay up

[HaRMFuL]

[img]http://www.12ozprophet.com/ubb/icons/icon30.gif'>Any trainyard in centralto southern Oregon is fun andsafe painting for the whole family.

[enotfiled]

NO ITS NOT!
ITS VERY DANGERIOUS
IN OREGON YOUR BETTER OFF
PAINTING IN CALIFORNIA

[Drunk Sober]

I have a different opinion about things like the numbers, painting more than 2 cars on a line, all that shit. You see, I have lived on a train line for 4 years, and though it is great to see fresh shit almost daily, I will tell you the downside. The train conductors like to blow thier whistles at 3 and 4 in the morning to fuck with all the people trying to sleep. If it was something that only happend once in a while it would be one thing. Also there aint a spot for about a mile or more that a car crosses the tracks, so there is no reason at all to be blowing the whistle. Im sure it would be a kick to do that, but its fucked when you are on the other end of the spectrum. So I say no respect for people, no respect for your trains, fuck the numbers, hit those things left and right! In a real war you dont take sympathy for the enemy and go around his numbers, you bomb everything in sight until you see the white flags come up!

[enotfiled]

ive got these little shits painting
the wall right next to this layup..
how fuckin stupid can you be?..
that shit pisses me off...:hatred:

[dumptrucking]

Originally posted by enotfiled
ive got these little shits painting
the wall right next to this layup..
how fuckin stupid can you be?..
that shit pisses me off...:hatred:

[swiss cheese]

dont bring your ghetto blaster and break dance on the roof of a boxcar. It's a dead give away!

[Trick]

first of all your advice was good except for 1 thing. If a writer tells another writer to go somewhere else because its is or her spot, that's wack. Writers should stick together. There are enough problems as it is with cops and all that other BS. Unless they're crossing you out, there should be no problem

[Trick]

first of all your advice was good except for 1 thing. If a writer tells another writer to go somewhere else because its is or her spot, that's wack. Writers should stick together. There are enough problems as it is with cops and all that other BS. Unless they're crossing you out, there should be no problem

[Trick]

did it twice so you'd get the point

[1HalfOfMe]

and when u post pictures dont give away your spot.. dont include landmarks in your pictures

[1HalfOfMe]

and when u post pictures dont give away your spot.. dont include landmarks in your pictures

[cafe.]

KEEP THE SPOTS CHILL CAUSE IT SUCKS WHEN HEADS CAUSE YOU MIGHT BE NEXT TO GET POPPED.

[everelusive]

wow

[Graff Kidish]

dont bring your ghetto blaster and break dance on the roof of a boxcar. It's a dead give away!

haha

[GnomeToys]

Some fuckers have been leaving cans with the stock caps still on them laying all over the only chill spot I've found around here. A beatdown may be in order.

[ehwol]

I have something to add to this subject...There is this dumb ass toy where i live, that goes into active mainline yards during the day, this yard is hard enough to paint at night time let alone day time, this fool will go so close to the station its a wonder brakeman,engineers and other associates of the railroad don't hear the sound of spray paint cans. Being this stupid and careless, this yard has taken it upon there selves to setup surveillance cameras. These cameras are top of the line, they are on high polls, they move 360 degrees, now thanks to this toy we can't even paint there, and that yard always had good shit rolling threw, well thats my two cents. p's y'all, ehwol

[und busboy]

This thread is really valuable. People should read this more often and we wouldn't have the problem of little fuckers heating out the yards:mad:

[ehwol]

word no doubt man, nooooo doubt!

[NY FATTYS]

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keeepin it chill...............

[reno fliks]

reading this post was very helpfull. i have a very chill spot but i always paint both sides of about 20 cars once a week, ill hit the whole line. and i go there during the day all the time. im very carefull to never leave my trash behind and to watch for the numbers, but i never realized deystroying whole lines could blow up my spot. does anyone out there think i may have already blown my spot up? how long should i wait to return. im thinking to take 2 weeks off. :(

[timemachine]

Originally posted by ehwol
I have something to add to this subject...There is this dumb ass toy where i live, that goes into active mainline yards during the day, this yard is hard enough to paint at night time let alone day time, this fool will go so close to the station its a wonder brakeman,engineers and other associates of the railroad don't hear the sound of spray paint cans. Being this stupid and careless, this yard has taken it upon there selves to setup surveillance cameras. These cameras are top of the line, they are on high polls, they move 360 degrees, now thanks to this toy we can't even paint there, and that yard always had good shit rolling threw, well thats my two cents. p's y'all, ehwol

ya i know someone like that

[ODS-1]

This thread is GOLDEN .

[amish son]

Originally posted by reno fliks
reading this post was very helpfull. i have a very chill spot but i always paint both sides of about 20 cars once a week, ill hit the whole line. and i go there during the day all the time. im very carefull to never leave my trash behind and to watch for the numbers, but i never realized deystroying whole lines could blow up my spot. does anyone out there think i may have already blown my spot up? how long should i wait to return. im thinking to take 2 weeks off. :(

you are full of shit.

[iloveboxcars]

Originally posted by Drunk Sober
I have a different opinion about things like the numbers, painting more than 2 cars on a line, all that shit. You see, I have lived on a train line for 4 years, and though it is great to see fresh shit almost daily, I will tell you the downside. The train conductors like to blow thier whistles at 3 and 4 in the morning to fuck with all the people trying to sleep. If it was something that only happend once in a while it would be one thing. Also there aint a spot for about a mile or more that a car crosses the tracks, so there is no reason at all to be blowing the whistle. Im sure it would be a kick to do that, but its fucked when you are on the other end of the spectrum. So I say no respect for people, no respect for your trains, fuck the numbers, hit those things left and right! In a real war you dont take sympathy for the enemy and go around his numbers, you bomb everything in sight until you see the white flags come up!

What enemy?

[reno fliks]

Originally posted by amish son
you are full of shit.


you really have no way of knowing and i have no desire of proving it. i know what i do. im also counting writes and outlines, i also do alot of fills. theres more than one way to destroy whole lines! i dont bring enough paint to do fills on every car. but by the time it rolls out ill have something on every single car both sides.

[und busboy]

Originally posted by reno fliks
you really have no way of knowing and i have no desire of proving it. i know what i do. im also counting writes and outlines, i also do alot of fills. theres more than one way to destroy whole lines! i dont bring enough paint to do fills on every car. but by the time it rolls out ill have something on every single car both sides.

If this is true then you are a true destroyer, but a stupid one at that. You may think it is cool to heat out a spot, but Im sure other writers in your area dont.

[ODS-1]

Preferably will cracked ass or an experienced freight painter, if you have a lay up that you piece fr8s in at night, if you do small moniker, meanstreak, marker tags on the freights there in the daytime (Without being seen in the act of tagging), will this heat up your lay up?

[oddio1]

Originally posted by HotRod
EWW Gross! You mean to tell me you chew up your paint soaked latex gloves? I just fill em up with rocks and toss em on top of the train, that way they will fall off the side when the train is movin really fast somewhere far, far away. Do you also chew up yer spent condoms so your girls dad won't find em?


fill em with rocks and toss em!! thats the first thing i've read in this thread that didnt seem like common sence. i like it... but what about the loud thud it makes when it lands? could catch attention of a worker near by. LOL... chew you spent condoms, HA!!!

[righter-12]

ill stick to chillen outside the yard in the woods until a fr8 train stops....... they stop alot n they r only 10 ft. away from my chill spot..... its nice..... 3 trains stop every hr. which gives me 20 min. to paint a train...... but sumtimes its not on dis schedule... i guess sumin is fucked wit the system there or sumin.......





BUSTA!

[SWX1994]

Originally posted by ODS-1
Preferably will cracked ass or an experienced freight painter, if you have a lay up that you piece fr8s in at night, if you do small moniker, meanstreak, marker tags on the freights there in the daytime (Without being seen in the act of tagging), will this heat up your lay up?

sorry, im not an experienced freight painter, but i have been known to take over entire yards with a streak on a sunday afternoon. it really all depends on the yard. this particular spot was a fairly active yard, but i have been spotted by workers in there taking fliks and the most they ever told me is be careful. i decided to streak there because streaaking is nothing. someone has to actually see you to catch you writing. there is no oder, there is no mess left behing and i know a worker that streaks in that yard so seeing the occasional b-e wraper on the ground is not out of the ordainary. now i never painted in this yard cause i see a bull at the office sometimes. and i hate being interrupted when painting, so if i get halfway through a piece and workers come to yank a line i would be pissed. i would say get to know your spot very well ( i had scoped this yard for over 5 years before i decided to wander deep off into the innards) before trying this. know the surrounding neighborhood very well so you can have your story straight. i cant see streaking blowing up a spot unless like i said if someone actually sees you writing on the cars or unless your the type to take streak tags on the engine window or something..

[ODS-1]

Thanks bro. I know alot of rail workers do streaks but you never know. Thanks again.

[und busboy]

Originally posted by SWX1994
sorry, im not an experienced freight painter, but i have been known to take over entire yards with a streak on a sunday afternoon. it really all depends on the yard. this particular spot was a fairly active yard, but i have been spotted by workers in there taking fliks and the most they ever told me is be careful. i decided to streak there because streaaking is nothing. someone has to actually see you to catch you writing. there is no oder, there is no mess left behing and i know a worker that streaks in that yard so seeing the occasional b-e wraper on the ground is not out of the ordainary. now i never painted in this yard cause i see a bull at the office sometimes. and i hate being interrupted when painting, so if i get halfway through a piece and workers come to yank a line i would be pissed. i would say get to know your spot very well ( i had scoped this yard for over 5 years before i decided to wander deep off into the innards) before trying this. know the surrounding neighborhood very well so you can have your story straight. i cant see streaking blowing up a spot unless like i said if someone actually sees you writing on the cars or unless your the type to take streak tags on the engine window or something..

You have to watch how many freights that you tag. If you go off tagging a whole line the workers will most likely know that the graffiti happened there because its the same tag on every train. When you do it just try to space out the freights.

[ODS-1]

That's what I was thinking, no more than 2 or 3 streaks per line (spaced out good), but tag both sides of the car.

[Yellow Feets]

Glad I read this before I took action. "toyaction". I'll stay off freights for like 2 years...

[83.]

nevermind. all is well. go kill yourself.

[Bellbeefer]

Originally posted by reno fliks [Bbut by the time it rolls out ill have something on every single car both sides. [/B]

[GoRuben!]

toys painting the buisnesses around the fucking bench!
Real smart.

[BANK]

Originally posted by GoRuben!
toys painting the buisnesses around the fucking bench!
Real smart.

definantley know what your talking about and thats shits fuckin nasty...

[KAES.IVB.ET]

Dont clip fences. Climb over them. If you have to cut gates try to find more than one spot to get in.

[Chance Em Redy]

If all else fails.. go on search for another chill spot.

theres always more walls to find.

i certainly had to go searching alot after some stupid ass toys kept blowing up every spot we found.

:(

[paint trains]

okay so

at my spot there is a big shed. so u can paint undercover when it rains

and now some toys have bombed the absolute shit out of the shed because its a good trackside spot

what would you use to get rid of these tags
the shed is just a normal aliminium shed. not painted or anything
maybe some silver paint?

[99centsAcan]

damn this is some good ass shit.. i guess cracked has been around the block for a few years

[flatblackindexfinger]

nice thread...i got a good story....my towns got 2 main yards....3local yards and a hand full of layups...for the most part we sperad enough rumors to keep the toys out of the bigger and more open of the two with stories of patrols and cameras..etc. anyway the other one had kids walking through it in plain view from the streets in the daytime and this one kid was hitting every train car with one line bombs....not even filled in, and i mean every train! and the rest of em were leaving cans around and bucket paint on the rocks ...the yard was trashed, then the yard started getting patroled nightly,then they spaced the cars out on every other line, then started cutting trees down around it to open it up. now there starting to cut trees down in the local yards and in one local yard we had a dead line of old ass passenger cars...some kind of military pass. cars with lockers, beds toilets,tables, and you could sit in these seats in the top that had bubble windows ,old trolley cars,crazy ass shit we used to camp in , but now its all cut up in gondolas and being hauled off...well, enough talk , needles to say, one day it could happen to you , shits horrible. now i go to surrounding towns to paint so i can play it safe. peace

[edogg]

that sucks that some toys wrecked your spot. got a few questions though regarding yards. are there workers at night? if im scoping out a sopt during the day, what are workers gonna say when they see me along the tracks. i'll be paint-free, but still is it illegal or tresspassing to be around trains in yards or just along tracks etc? i cant imagine that yards would just let people wander around in them...

[iloveboxcars]

^first off you need to think really hard before you hit trains. is what you are capable of now something you want rolling for several years? if not stick to walls for awhile longer.

to answer your questions - yes, there are workers at night. not so much at layups but any yard i have been to there are workers at night.

some workers couldn't care less that you were walking around. some are pretty big assholes about it. just make sure they see you obeying certain safety rules. don't cross a line of coupled cars unless it's absolutely necessary. NEVER do it in front of a worker. make sure you always are watching out. turn around to make sure nothing is coming your way.

i suggest going in there with a camera for acouple weeks first. staying on the outside of the lines and slowly day by day working your way across the yard.

that is the way i do it, but there are people on here that probably have much better advice than me.

[edogg]

nah thanks man. im just not about to go searching for spots and get arrested or booted for being on the tracks, even if its in the middle of the afternoon but if you say they'll let me..

[YOURS TRUELY]

IF ITS A REALLY SUCURE SPOT I WILL USUALLY ONLY TELL ONE OR TWO FELLOW ACCOMPLICES AND SCOPE OUT THE SPOT A COUPLE NITES AND FIND OUT WHEN THEY COME IN OR LEAVE AND WHEN SECURITY DOES ROUNDS..ONLY BECUASE IM IN PHILY AND PAINTING FRIEGHTS IS USUALLY EASY BUT PUBLIC TRANSIT THE EL ITS CALLED IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO EVEN GET IN

[edogg]

Originally posted by YOURS TRUELY@Dec 22 2004, 01:49 PM
IF ITS A REALLY SUCURE SPOT I WILL USUALLY ONLY TELL ONE OR TWO FELLOW ACCOMPLICES AND SCOPE OUT THE SPOT A COUPLE NITES AND FIND OUT WHEN THEY COME IN OR LEAVE AND WHEN SECURITY DOES ROUNDS..ONLY BECUASE IM IN PHILY AND PAINTING FRIEGHTS IS USUALLY EASY BUT PUBLIC TRANSIT THE EL ITS CALLED IS NEARLY IMPOSSIBLE TO EVEN GET IN
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if your scoping the place out at night, even with no paint on you do they get pissed that your in the yard that late?

[ZESO-NEPA]

where i live, there are about 3 or 4 cars parked a week on these tracks near a factory, they usually show up over night and don't leave till a few days, usualy over night. are they chill?

[daterrawrist]

you say its by a factory..most likely the workers will be there all hours..if not security will.if these cars are going in and out of these factories....i wouldnt touch em

[ZESO-NEPA]

i've painted them a few times, but i've never seen any workers or anything around them, and they don't go in the factor just parked near them. i'd like to think they were chill but do you think if i paint the every time theyre there they would start watching them? i mean they gotta check the cars before thy take them out and theyusually come in clean

[daterrawrist]

if your plannin on crushin them all when they are there do them all in one trip.get in.. get out.. no bullshit.dont be goin there on a weekly basis maybe twice a month IF that.

[fuchikoma2000]

Originally posted by daterrawrist@Jan 23 2005, 07:05 AM
if your plannin on crushin them all when they are there do them all in one trip.get in.. get out.. no bullshit.dont be goin there on a weekly basis maybe twice a month IF that.
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i dont know there is a similar spot here where i live usually we hit one or two cars in the line and let em move out but usually the line is longer than 3 or 4 cars, somewhere usually in the neighborhood of like 10 to 40 cars. just hit maybe one car and let them push out, just stick to the advise cracked and some of the veteran heads have given you on this thread and you should have no problem with the spot if its still chill, but its always a good idea to excersize a bit of moderation.

[REVOLVER]

DAMN KID CHECK THIS OUT!!!!!!

http://www.freeipods.com/?r=17653707


Hurry up while they still got em'

[sunrise red]

when i go to the local yard, i always see, tthe so called experienced writerss, going over thenumbers, hitting trains that stay in the yard, hitting more than 2 cars ina line, shit like that. but they preach to the youngins about blowing theyre spots all the time. they jjus HYPOCRITS. whateves though, i still go to the yardn do my thang. n mostof the time it rolls out without gettin capped (cuz i hit the lines that go out the next morn, b4 they get a chance to cap tha shit) but it just boggles my mind that they can be such hypocrits,

when i paint, im respectful, dont heat out the spots, & play by the rules....

bump for this thread, first time i read it was like 3 or 4 years ago,it helped me alot

[daterrawrist]

it depends what numbers they are goin over...dont be quick to call them hypocrits

[El Mikinbin De Miami]

Dont take a dump in the yard.

[Gunm]

Don't take your gf to the yard and have sex with her propped up against an EWOK piece....

[hip2be_square]

this thread is kinda funny..you got people tellin fools how to rock the line...lol..shit..i throw my empty cans right on the fuckin ground..i really dont care..you guys sound like pussys

[robJ]

Guests bringing Guests, when they think you aint going to show up @ the spot.

( YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE , THATS WHY YOUR SHIT DONT LEAVE THE YARD)

[Cracked Ass]

Originally posted by hip2be_square@Oct 15 2005, 12:33 PM
this thread is kinda funny..you got people tellin fools how to rock the line...lol..shit..i throw my empty cans right on the fuckin ground..i really dont care..you guys sound like pussys
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You're always free to cut your own throat, and make getting up on freights harder for yourself in the future. I don't give rules, just advice. It's just that when you heat up a spot, you do it for everyone who wants to hit it in the future, so you're cutting their throats too. I'm sure they're grateful.

[Cracked Ass]

And yes, there are urban spots that are already completely fucked...walls hit, cans everywhere, and cops the least of your worries. Obviously my recommendations apply only to spots that have a chance of staying DL.

[83.]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v232/thelowline/freightpaintingfordummies.jpg

cliff's notes version spring 06...

[Sene]

I so pre-ordered that book.

[83.]

Originally posted by Sene@Dec 28 2005, 02:13 PM
I so pre-ordered that book.
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haha.

[eightball]

is dis thread or what? i enjoyed it keep it goin.

[hill billy]

You come near me when im p@!nT"n a train in MY yard, I'LL slap the SHIT out of you with an old porkchop.___EVEN IF YOU C@Me 2 THE SP0t WITH ME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[_nightcrawler]

keep spots to yourself. Dont brag about it. Let people discover the spot the hard way

[pose1]

learned a lot

[(...ZAC...ONE...THREE...)]

this shit aint real?

[(...ZAC...ONE...THREE...)]

is it?

[MA562]

yards vs. layups question...

what would you rather paint at?

Ive been painting a smaller yard-5 tracks i believe, and Im about to go back east to a larger yard, but in a more rural area. its alot more open and has a onsite office and all that. its bigger and more open, but probally much more low key as it is in a suburban/rural area.

[Bed.]

nice thread...i got a good story....my towns got 2 main yards....3local yards and a hand full of layups...for the most part we sperad enough rumors to keep the toys out of the bigger and more open of the two with stories of patrols and cameras..etc. anyway the other one had kids walking through it in plain view from the streets in the daytime and this one kid was hitting every train car with one line bombs....not even filled in, and i mean every train! and the rest of em were leaving cans around and bucket paint on the rocks ...the yard was trashed, then the yard started getting patroled nightly,then they spaced the cars out on every other line, then started cutting trees down around it to open it up. now there starting to cut trees down in the local yards and in one local yard we had a dead line of old ass passenger cars...some kind of military pass. cars with lockers, beds toilets,tables, and you could sit in these seats in the top that had bubble windows ,old trolley cars,crazy ass shit we used to camp in , but now its all cut up in gondolas and being hauled off...well, enough talk , needles to say, one day it could happen to you , shits horrible. now i go to surrounding towns to paint so i can play it safe. peace


That sucks REALLL bad, it's a damn shame too...

[Fauxurmother]

I might add, this info is timeless
Good shit mang I just read through this whole thread lots of great info, much apperciated.

[Fauxurmother]

Dont take a dump in the yard.
Whoops...my bad.

















Just playing I need total concentration.

[NeWoNeCaKcRu!]

theres this chill dayspot in atl...its under a bridge...its got a bank and some vertical walls...its has been around for a long time and people have always painted it during the daytime...even toys paint there on the bank but it is still a safe place to paint durin th day...police have even been down there to investigate a abandoned vehicle that was left down there but it is still not blown up yet...now i think its about to die because they just bult these huge condos and they all have balconies and the balconies are all facing towards under the bridge...the condos are over a hundred feet away but i still think they could see painting..its sad..i loved that place..its a great place to go to meet writers...it also has a skatespot...Atlanta is being overrun by condos...they are buildin them everywhere and it is starting to piss me off...

[NeWoNeCaKcRu!]

there are even 1000's of empty cans on the ground....fuck condos they are ruining atlanta...they are attractin to many uptight rich people to the middle of the city...it is also causing them to focus more on stoppin graffti....

[swedish erotica]

theres this chill dayspot in atl...its under a bridge...its got a bank and some vertical walls...its has been around for a long time and people have always painted it during the daytime...even toys paint there on the bank but it is still a safe place to paint durin th day...police have even been down there to investigate a abandoned vehicle that was left down there but it is still not blown up yet...now i think its about to die because they just bult these huge condos and they all have balconies and the balconies are all facing towards under the bridge...the condos are over a hundred feet away but i still think they could see painting..its sad..i loved that place..its a great place to go to meet writers...it also has a skatespot...Atlanta is being overrun by condos...they are buildin them everywhere and it is starting to piss me off...
A. No one wants to meet your ass there.
B. This has nothing to do with freights.

[tango 24]

the original posting was about keeping spots chill, so it still applies.
i love good ol dayspots, factories are the best...
getting into the __________ is risky now with those apartments right next to them...
i got spotted going over the fence and some middle aged lady started abusing me...
then i found some skaters absolutely wrecking the place, throwing shit around, dogging pieces...
no respect for quality art...
so i gave them a stern talking to, confiscated their paint and knocked them about a bit. god, little 13 yr old skaters are fucking annoying...

[dontsleep34]

ive been painting frieghts for 4 years now and ive been painting in the same 5 yards my whole carrier now these 14 year old toys are comming through taggin up everything and showin no respect for sum of the kings that roll thru. sum little cock actually went over a Nace burner and a Zeph Burner with a goddamn haggard ass tag in waltmart drippy shit like show sum respect i wanna crack sum skulls

anyways thanks for the great thread and thanks for lettin me vent

[just bomb it]

^whopp that kids ass then take his paint.
and for the fuck off it say V-A-N-R lol so he can tell his friends he met someone from the game

[dontsleep34]

yeah man i wanna knock the kid the little fuck walks thru the yard broad daylight thru our chill spots with a damn butcher knife and just waves it around

[Pace1]

Knock him out and pierce his cans, then shove them in his mouth so he can eat the paint.

[dontsleep34]

good tips

[hill billy]

SHIT ON All!!

[IDIE(DnC)]

I guess you could say I just started to go out and use paint...I basically stayed in my room painting on big ass pieces of cardboard on my garage walls as well as paper but I just recently wanted to go out and try to get better. where I live though has no scene except kids just writting fuck fags and kkk and stupid shit.
if anybody on this thread lives in the oklahoma city area hit me up.

[loaftie]

thats why i dont paint trains.

[YURG1RLSWALLO5]

well what about grown men leaving paint cans, paint can lids, and caps all over the yard. i confronted them about it, and they got all defensive.. sayin it wasn't there shit. like dude the cans and color lids are from your pieces. wack ass writers and wak ass crew. have no idea how to keep a yard clean ...