scibble jam 2001

[mr metallix]

all stohhhhhhhhhhhhlen

[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/240597.AlterSJ2001.jpg'>

[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/240598.DazeSJ2001.jpg'>

[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/240599.Elk1SJ2001.jpg'>

[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/240600.Elk2SJ2001.jpg'>

[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/240602.IXwallSJ2001.jpg'>

[professor poopatronic]

my god, elk must be a crackhead or just plain weird. krunkin

[imported_DIZIKES]

haha first suckers

[imported_JELO_016]

VERY NICE POST

[TOE-FOO]

that blue elk is superb

[asetONER]

i met elk yesterday. he came down to nashville with rex.....did some tight shit here.....

[layteks]

a little bit fuct in the head but still dope as hell

[imported_tEkRoCkS]

that last one is fuckin ill who did it?

[imported_some pittsburgh flavor]

R.I.P. NACE

[imported_EL MASKO]

Originally posted by professor poopatronic:
my god, elk must be a crackhead or just plain weird.

He's just an avid Southern Flag Flyer. He just did some of those characters on a production w/my boys. REX2 and his cut-out's.

[imported_smeoo]

wish i'd been there....damn this ocean that divides...damn it to hell....

[imported_ruEtbeer]

Originally posted by some pittsburgh flavor:
R.I.P. NACE

ya for real...

[imported_WHOSPANK]

that pastor shit is fuckin dope...

[SmackMYass]

I just pissed my pants..

[imported_dumpybottom]

bump for daze and falling asleep in front of his pieces....

[KARD like WOE]

pastor 215 shit is hotttt

[T.T Boy]

sick post. that last one is amazing.

[mr metallix]

10:57 am as promised.

[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/240603.JasperSJ2001.jpg'>

[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/243220.RekSJ2001.jpg'>

[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/243221.Rex2SJ2001.jpg'>

[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/243222.SagSJ2001.jpg'>

[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/243224.SwekSJ2001.jpg'>

[mr metallix]

UNKNOWN1
[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/243225.Unknown1SJ2001.jpg'>
RAPES
[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/243259.TF1.jpg'>
DEVIOUS
[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/243261.TF2.jpg'>
MODERN
[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/243262.TF3.jpg'>

WHEN
[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/243280.TF4.jpg'>

SAGENT
[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/243284.TF5.jpg'>

SEone
[img]http://image.pbase.com/u/fr8rider/upload/243286.TF6.jpg'>

[GAMBL-1]

WHERE ARE THE POSE FLIKS???? COME ON GUYS WE GOTTA GO JOCK HIM!!! THEN WE CAN LOOK COOL!!!

[mud_buddha]

I think someone has a crush on REAS...

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buddha bless you

[deznatori]

Thanx for stealin my flix. I scanned them but I haven't had time to post them here. I'll get more up on that site tonight. Including the MAYHEM wall.

Tek: the wall was done by Pastor, Bird, and Lotus

[beardo]

SWEK!! did VOICE make it out? i'd really like to see his piece.

[imported_dik.n.ur.ear]

Originally posted by LetsGoJockPose!:
WHERE ARE THE POSE FLIKS???? COME ON GUYS WE GOTTA GO JOCK HIM!!! THEN WE CAN LOOK COOL!!!


hahahahhaha the name makes the post

[mr metallix]

Originally posted by deznatori:
Thanx for stealin my flix. I scanned them but I haven't had time to post them here. I'll get more up on that site tonight. Including the MAYHEM wall.

Tek: the wall was done by Pastor, Bird, and Lotus

lol sorry..i happened 2 do a search for scribble jam 2001..and all your shit came up so i figured i would post it..

[deznatori]

Dik: they were taken from my hosting site. These are all the flix I have scanned in. I'm going to scan mre in tonight.

When: I'm at work so I'll get to it tonight.

[BrokenFuckingLung]

granted...the elk stuff is nice...but i like the older stuff...freights etc...a whole lot more. whatever.

[fourskin09]

Nice work...........sick shit.
I really don't know about that Reas comment.

[ZENYTH.ASP]

I was hoping someone would post flix from scribble.....thanks Dezn.

The transformer production looks really good in person. When pulled off his best piece yet. Just a little sumthin....everyone but rapes used a transformer stencil in there pieces. Post flix of the Megatron character....

Also...does anyone know who did that spider character with the asain kabuki-ish face??

[seeking]

the spider, i believe, was chase. atleast thats what it said next to it. i liked it, but since ive seen several very similar characters by giant, i found it hard to not feel it a little bitten.. either way, it was cool. rapes fill was really fresh to me. i dont know why, but i was feeling it extra special lots...

[MUNE]

im all about the SWEK piece.....

go on my brotha!

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"Rain, it's rain again, rain down on my parade, i'm wrong you're right it's not what you would do - walk one mile in these shoes..."

[tmf0]

da BOMB!!!!!!

[*ZEMONEDOE$]

cant wait to see the mayhem wall....

[imported_Magnet Man]

Originally posted by DIZIKES:
haha first suckers
100 percent bad ass!!

[fourskin09]

somebody please post Nace's piece.

[Secret]

Where's all the LA stuff?? I want to see what they did....

[Sam Rothstein]

Originally posted by ZENYTH.ASP:

Just a little sumthin....everyone but rapes used a transformer stencil in there pieces. B]

Im looking at the RAPES peice, and I see the transformer stencil on his R, A and S...or did you mean he did that freehand?

[This message has been edited by Sam Rothstein (edited 08-15-2001).]

[imported_dumpybottom]

i don't know how true this is, but i was told yesterday that someone went and threw bucket paint and sprayed shit all over the back wall where nace, pose, nesm, and chip were... the same with the saber/push/totem/sever section. maybe someone from the nati could confirm or deny this.....

Originally posted by fourskin09:
somebody please post Nace's piece.

[juliousjammajamma]

its true, hopefully somebody got flicks before it happened.

[imported_Backspace]

its true..

[seeking]

ill be pretty suprised if someone got day flicks of the mayhem/msk wall. they still werent finished with it at ten atnight... nesm was doing his outline with a flashlight. then the next day when we went to get flicks, the woman who owned the place was going apeshit. screaming at me an some cat who climed the fence... ridiculousness... i hope someone got one, but im not holding my breath. all trajedy aside, the pieces were really dope regardless...

[imported_i love phat rabbit]

i got day flix, but there was a fuckin car parked in front of the bottom of NACE(RIP)'s piece. i'm gettin all my shit back tomorrow, so i'll try to have em up. anyone go to that thing in the park? i dono why we didnt go

[imported_dumpybottom]

that lady yelled at us too and we had to climb back under the fence... so we went back while the flea market was open on sunday and got flicks... there was a car in front of the pose piece, but between me and the other 3 kids i was with, all that stuff should come out ok. that really sucks that the stuff back there really was fucked with, it was real good.
by the way seeking, did you paint with modern and serger on sunday? i thought it might be you, but i wasn't sure... i didn't get to see any of the pieces finished, just in progress.
by the way people... we got ditd 3 out now with ouija and aroe... http://www.deadinthedirt.com ('http://"http://www.deadinthedirt.com"')

[QUOTE]Originally posted by seeking innocence:
[B]ill be pretty suprised if someone got day flicks of the mayhem/msk wall.

[imported_dumpybottom]

goddamnit, nevermind, apparently the server is down or something.....

[QUOTE]Originally posted by dumpybottom:http://www.deadinthedirt.com ('http://"http://www.deadinthedirt.com"')

[BIG YEAR]

Elk is to dope!!!!
man im salty that i didnt end up going.

[deznatori]

It's cool I was going to post alot of them here anyway. Did you check out any of the other galleries I have?

[imported_dik.n.ur.ear]

where did you steal these from!?! i cant find one damned place that has pictures.

[brown twinkie]

feelin' the elk, modern and when.....

[imported_when1.0]

who can guess who is which character on the transformers production? if there was a shot if the whole wall it would be cool (hin, hint dezn!) cause then people could find the cock-and-balls building in the city.

[imported_Flubug Starski]

That Transformers production is KILLING IT!!!!!

[Emo.Death.Machine]

Originally posted by professor poopatronic:
my god, elk must be a crackhead or just plain weird. krunkin

its the cowboy hats...the cowboy hats i tell you

[imported_when1.0]

that lady is suspect #1 for dissing the back wall because:
1. she sucks
2. she's crazy.
3. only the wall space owned by the flea market was dissed and thats where she works.
4. she sucks real bad.
5. sagent just knows it was her.
6. she sucks SOOOOO bad.
nace's best peice to date, i beleive.
not to mention one of pose's best.
she will be dealt with.

[ZENYTH.ASP]

Originally posted by Sam Rothstein:
Im looking at the RAPES peice, and I see the transformer stencil on his R, A and S...or did you mean he did that freehand?

Yeah thats what I meant......Rapes did it freehand while the others used stencils.

[ZENYTH.ASP]

Originally posted by when1.0:
that lady is suspect #1 for dissing the back wall. She sucks SOOOOO bad.
nace's best peice to date, i beleive.
not to mention one of pose's best.
she will be dealt with.

Someone should cut out her old decrepted uterus. When.....go for it.

I thought you couldn't post flix form pbase??



[This message has been edited by ZENYTH.ASP (edited 08-16-2001).]

[big-ass-worms]

about the wall splashing:
I got flicks before that happened.
Also i think it was the flea-market lady,
except that who ever did it, splashed the
wall with buff... then scribbled across
the pieces and drew anarchy symbols!
-- so i've heard...(very suspect.)
Yet... i still think it WAS that bitch.

about the stencils:
They just helped everybody's shit look consistant... not everybody was
into the transformers and can remember what
those logos looked like. -- get a grip people, this was a one time production,
it would have been stupid NOT to use em.

ps> I'm sellin them on E-bay... (sike!)


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"spray it dont say it."

[ZENYTH.ASP]

If anyone has flix of the nace dedication piece that went over the transformer wall... post them.

and devi, I was in no way trying to be like "ehhh heee they used stencils"....I was giving little tidbits on the pieces.

[modern ep ta]

oh and to clarify what jpeg said the
NACE DEDICATION WALL!
went over the old space invaders wall.
it should be in cincy papers today about the dedication wall.
Its a hugh nace piece 30 35 ft. tall plenty long.
Its his outline on the last train he did, chip threw in some characters as well.
Painted by all the real deal cincy kids, not those io toys.
place some others to pay respect ex. jher espo came in along with kaws.

[modern ep ta]

Scribble, well i didn't go but it went well.
alot of city damage by next pose vizie awol along with many others.

oh and takt and some other fag painted the trailers in the sscribble parking lot trying to act like some bombers prolly fuckin ruined scribble for next year. stupid fuckin toys(yeah you heard me toy)!

some other toy got his arm broke for catching a tag in the bathroom. haha TA crew works security if you catch my drift. haha

my favorite thing at scribble prolly was the dumpster and garbage can tags every where. sick flicks.

the mayhem wall was fresh.
and the hugh crowd jocking msk and totem. silly if ya ask me!

channels got killed as well.
no toy shit this year there. and the annual hey cops are coming and get your paint jacked didn't happen this year! shitty.

[2slim]

hey nice pieces daze and rek..i may be seeing yall soon..renko

[imported_when1.0]

the dumpters were definatly hot. that door over by the msk wall was quite nice as well.
the bathrooms were definatly destroyed which sucks. etchbath on the mirros and everything.
takt and rite definatley lacked forthought when they hit that trailor. they were told by several people that it was a bad idea and ended up leaving early to avoid any physical "discomfort". this shows that they gained the ability to use common sence.


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Xasp.ta.mmwX

[imported_dumpybottom]

i do believe "dude, that was HO SHIT" was what they were told.... haha.
[QUOTE]Originally posted by when1.0:
[B]
takt and rite definatley lacked forthought when they hit that trailor. they were told by several people that it was a bad idea and ended up leaving early to avoid any physical "discomfort".

[imported_laffinginside]

doesn't anyone else thinks its wierd that writers would break other writers arms for tagging a bathroom?

i can see being salty at rite and takt but seriously its out of control when security is harassing jaber kyt for catching a tag in a bathroom.


why not just join the police force?

peas,

laffing inside www.omnimix.com ('http://"http://www.omnimix.com"')

[seeking]

to clear this up... they didnt exactly break his arm. dibbs was holding him by his arm, an he tried to pull away and run, his arm twisted an popped out of socket at the elbow. or so this was dibbs version of the incident.

[imported_JoeSchmoe]

hey MODERN, you're calling Jaber KYT DTC a toy? You crack me up, how long you been writing like a year or two? Know some friends that own a magazine so instant fame for "Mr. IrobFokis" Check for Jaber, he's put in more work than you probably ever will, and unlike most fame whores he doesn't care whether his shit is in a magazine or not.

[imported_JoeSchmoe]

P.S. why don't you ever spell out your full name? Struggle with R's and N's?????? Cause you know MODE2 from Paris is the original, and burns the shit out of you, have a good one.

[imported_i love phat rabbit]

Nace(RIP)'s piece
[img]http://www.yourphotos.com/users/3242/nacerip1.JPG'>
[img]"]http://www.yourphotos.com/users/3242/nacerip2.JPG'> ('http://"http://www.yourphotos.com/users/3242/nacerip2.JPG[/img')
Mayhem wall bein painted
[img]http://www.yourphotos.com/users/3242/mayhem.JPG'>
RIP NACE

[imported_DISCO BRYSO]

Jaber killz! ... thumbs up.

[imported_omone]

elk is crazee
devious crushin it par usuale
someone has to have a better flick of nace!

[Rivers Cuomo]

That nace is...really good. That pose looks nice but I can't really tell....

[iced out mocha]

hmmmmmm post some more scribble flicks. enough with the nancy boy drama.

[imported_Klypse]

damn sounds like alot went down at scribble, was it festive while everyone was painting?

[seeking]

yah, that was me with modern an serger. piece turned out ok, it was the first wall piece id done in about 3 months, and the sketch was for a much larger size, i had to compact it with ruined the astetic but whatver. it was just nice to paint... oh, and ultra flat over white primer leaves some nasty ass overspray no matter how clean you paint.

bump for mayhem wall requests...

[deznatori]

Originally posted by seeking innocence:
to clear this up... they didnt exactly break his arm. dibbs was holding him by his arm, an he tried to pull away and run, his arm twisted an popped out of socket at the elbow. or so this was dibbs version of the incident.

It was an accident. But another person was holding the kids arm. As the toy tried to get away his arm snapped like a twig. Both bones in his forearm were snapped. Just to clear it up.

Zeynth I have had no problems with pbase. Scan it in. then take the Http// address add.jpg to the end and the usual [img]'>.

[This message has been edited by deznatori (edited 08-17-2001).]

[grime2]

what!... ill

[deznatori]

[img]http://www.pbase.com/image/248691.jpg'>
Kow
[img]http://www.pbase.com/image/248692.jpg'>
Vizie
[img]http://www.pbase.com/image/248693.jpg'>
Lewis
[img]http://www.pbase.com/image/248695.jpg'>
Lead
[img]http://www.pbase.com/image/248696.jpg'>
Crae
[img]http://www.pbase.com/image/248697.jpg'>
Next
[img]http://www.pbase.com/image/248699.jpg'>
Voice

[deznatori]

[img]http://www.pbase.com/image/248702.jpg'>
unknown 2
[img]http://www.pbase.com/image/248713.jpg'>
Kahn
[img]http://www.pbase.com/image/248714.jpg'>
Ewok HM
[img]http://www.pbase.com/image/248715.jpg'>
Gkae

[deznatori]

[img]http://www.pbase.com/image/248716.jpg'>
Saber
[img]http://www.pbase.com/image/248717.jpg'>
Push
[img]http://www.pbase.com/image/248718.jpg'>
Totem2
[img]http://www.pbase.com/image/248719.jpg'>
Sever

That is about everything I have scanned in.
I was fortunatly to get shots of the back wall before the crazy bitch got ahold of it.

[DRED]

The unknown #1 piece was done by a cat named Flex from Chicago in RK and XQZ crew.

[bigpoppa.k]

bump for that last bunch of flix... man'o'man.. wish i was there...

[modern ep ta]

yo JOE SCHMOE. i'm not talking about jaber you fuckin fag. jaber stayed at my house you fuckin start instant beef before you un derstand whats going on. oh and r's and n's (fuck'em) i'm not painting to impress you.

fuck off

[beardo]

oh my khan! voice and ewok comming through as usual too.. soupy soupness to the soupest

[ZENYTH.ASP]

I am stoked to see that GKAE

those HM are really fuckin cool to...

I could careless about the lewis and lead, the twig characters are nice though.

[graham]

hell yeah a job at kinkos is boring all i fucking do is look at porn on the computer and make fucking copies

[imported_just~someone~else~]

that ewok kills....modern does too...and vizie...illy bomb!

[big-ass-worms]

wha, wha, wha.

Bottom line: scribble was dope, drama aside.
and the MC battle was off the hook... for once!! (please leave the critique to hip-hop fans.)


props to all those that made the effort to come out and represent!!!

the Nace accident was the only REAL downer.
--- in fact... its still a downer.

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"spray it dont say it."

[nasty]

i like the first two

[imported_TeckFiftyOne]

Word to HM, Home town boys. Can I pick up this "Jam" at my local grocery?

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"This aint the time or place for you to prove somethin'cut the star gazin' yo, Move somethin"

[imported_dik.n.ur.ear]

bump for lewis vizie next kazi crae & lead!!!

[kidlugz]

i'm feeling the vizie,crae,and ewok the most. that's probaby the first next piece i've seen that i didn't like though.

oh, and the there's way too much yaking going on in this thread and not enough posting of pictures. merci.

[imported_MakeYourMark]

YO
YOUR A SUCKER FOR STEALING MY FLIKS
ON YOUR OTHER POST.

[painted black]

hey is it possible to post the second batch of flicks (ewok, gkae, etc)in another new thread? for the kids with super slow connections like mine i can't see them. thanks

[IHATEU]

Originally posted by seeking innocence:
i still dont understand why people paint ugly walls and think it makes them cool. stock tips are shit and should be outlawed, especially on walls, and super especially on legal walls. just cause you have alot of numbers doesnt mean your good and it doesnt mean that just cause you think your some fucking super star, that anyone with half an ounce of intelligence of creativity cares to see that shit.

done ranting now.

i myself are over stock caps but what you said makes no sence really. im sure you poking fun at the a2m, kahn and denver kids...there are many people that just perfer teh feel of stocks. i dont think any one uses particular caps because of there status in the graff world but again some great artists never liked brushes either...to each his own i just did not like your comparison of why fools do what...how do you know how they feel or why they do it..tell it to grey, reas, espo, ewok HM, cav, sien5, mber (just to name a few in your rock star catagory)all use stocks on a common basis....so all people that use stocks have no creativity or what not, good one! you were there should have told them their shit was wack...i would have and i did.. but i would not use a stock cap on a legal my self.......

[This message has been edited by IHATEU (edited 08-17-2001).]

[imported_SecretAgentX9]

goodness griff! that stuff is tight!! push is off the hook.. everything else is banging too...

[fr8oholic]

Originally posted by IHATEU:
i myself are over stock caps but what you said makes no sence really. im sure you poking fun at the a2m, kahn and denver kids...there are many people that just perfer teh feel of stocks. i dont think any one uses particular caps because of there status in the graff world but again some great artists never liked brushes either...to each his own i just did not like your comparison of why fools do what...how do you know how they feel or why they do it..tell it to grey, reas, espo, ewok HM, cav, sien5, mber (just to name a few in your rock star catagory)all use stocks on a common basis....so all people that use stocks have no creativity or what not, good one! you were there should have told them their shit was wack...i would have and i did.. but i would not use a stock cap on a legal my self.......

[This message has been edited by IHATEU (edited 08-17-2001).]

fuck stock caps. fuck skinnies.

i've got a really long reply to this but it's all opinion and i'm just gonna keep it to myself.

it's not gonna get me nor anyone else anywhere by spouting my fucking nonsense around like my opinion should mean shit. that's not a diss to either of you for doing just that but it is just mine versus your opinion in the end. it's subjective and very arguable from either end.

i'm still feeling you seeking and i still think you're a dick lead but maybe you should take a look across the very street your screaming from.

i'll leave this at that for now.

[MUNE]

the one above KHAN is JHER i believe and oh my god is he getting SIIIIICK. always good to see some VOICE pieces.

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"Rain, it's rain again, rain down on my parade, i'm wrong you're right it's not what you would do - walk one mile in these shoes..."

[imported_when1.0]

i was happy to see how many writers were hardcore and punkrock. not to say anything against hip hop or nothin, but thats a givin that if your into hiphop, you'll most likely be into graf too to some extent.
it was cool to see all the dj and mc battles and the b-boy battles blow my mind. actually i think the mc battle was pretty lame. just a bunch of dudes calling eachother gay and talking about how much pussy they get.... what wit.
the dj battle was took by the dude who used the imperial march (bad-guy theme from star wars) and how could it not be?
uh.... the food scared me so i got pretzles from udf. i'd say the only really bad thing about the whole thing was that you could smell the ohio river sometimes and that shit is gross.


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Xasp.ta.mmwX

[seeking]

imperial march guy didnt win, the other cat did. but that was definitely the highlight of the dj battle. (dude took buck 65's 'centaur' and juggled it so it sounded exactly like the imperil march... classic shit.)

i still dont understand why people paint ugly walls and think it makes them cool. stock tips are shit and should be outlawed, especially on walls, and super especially on legal walls. just cause you have alot of numbers doesnt mean your good and it doesnt mean that just cause you think your some fucking super star, that anyone with half an ounce of intelligence of creativity cares to see that shit.

done ranting now.

[modern ep ta]

LETS GIVE IT UP FOR UDF PRETZELS.......yeah

lets give it up for modern who's a biter...yeah

lets give it up for modern's boring ass job a kinkos, which leads him to waste his life away in the chatroom graff world......yeah

lets give it up to the fool who says i bite fokis (very unoriginal diss may I add).....yeah

[seeking]

ill give it up for modern just for being the homie. fuck em all homie...

[IHATEU]

Originally posted by fr8oholic:
fuck stock caps. fuck skinnies.

i've got a really long reply to this but it's all opinion and i'm just gonna keep it to myself.

it's not gonna get me nor anyone else anywhere by spouting my fucking nonsense around like my opinion should mean shit. that's not a diss to either of you for doing just that but it is just mine versus your opinion in the end. it's subjective and very arguable from either end.

i'm still feeling you seeking and i still think you're a dick lead but maybe you should take a look across the very street your screaming from.

i'll leave this at that for now.

i dont get it??????????????????

[imported_dik.n.ur.ear]

Originally posted by seeking innocence:

i still dont understand why people paint ugly walls and think it makes them cool. stock tips are shit and should be outlawed, especially on walls, and super especially on legal walls. just cause you have alot of numbers doesnt mean your good and it doesnt mean that just cause you think your some fucking super star, that anyone with half an ounce of intelligence of creativity cares to see that shit.

done ranting now.


your opinion is kind of a bummer. it is sad to see that graffiti has come down to this....politics so thick, people are labeling each other because of what tips you use, and how "cool" you are for using what.

[This message has been edited by dik.n.ur.ear (edited 08-18-2001).]

[iced out mocha]

post some more flicks. enough jibber jabber.

[imported_when1.0]

yeah i guess i shouldn't talk about the hip hop battle stuff cause i don't really know anything. its just that nobody said anything about all that stuff which was a big part of the event. thanks to people who paid more attention for clearing up details that i fucked up.
i just like to see graffiti and ended up seeing some other stuff cause it was there.
i wish Minor Threat had done a reunion show at scribble jam. then i'd pay more attention. or maybe At The Gates or something more metal.

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Xasp.ta.mmwX

[seeking]

if some Ny street bomber came in and burned your line with a bunch of hollows, youd be pissed. so when a bunch of train writers do sloppy train pieces on legal walls, its just confusing. what are you trying to prove? that you exist? the whole point of legal walls is to take your time and make something that people are gonna be stoked to see, not just so you can stand there and get jocked. legal walls also take out that bullshit 'im just trying to have fun' excuse.' if its that fun to push down a cap on a can, why dont fools just go nutts in their bathroom with spray on deoderant and leave the walls for people who care about shit like that?
i wasnt trying to dis anyone in specific, and certainly not a2m as a whole. ive posted several times about this same topic and i'll rant about it to anyone that will listen. its the fundamentals of graff, how can i not care? furthermore, i actually liked the lead piece (as much as i didnt want to,) i also liked the vizie piece alot. however i would have liked it ten times more if dude had acted like he cared how it came out.

finally, people can do anything they like, i have no vested interest in what anyone paints nor do i think my say means damn. but when people put out sub par work yet still act like they're a rock star cause of their crew or their rep that pisses me off. so many cats are breaking their backs to push graff further that watching big headed egos bumping into one another like tweedle dee and tweedle dum is just silly.

again, im not dissing anyone in particular, im talking abstractly about graff and theory. someday my words will be just my words and nothing more.



[This message has been edited by seeking innocence (edited 08-18-2001).]

[seeking]

ps. i wsnt saying that everyone that paints with stocks is wack or uncreative. just that the point of legal walls is to do something 'incredible' and 'exceptional', not just a standard middle of the night train piece...

[young republican]

Originally posted by seeking innocence:
imperial march guy didnt win, the other cat did. but that was definitely the highlight of the dj battle. (dude took buck 65's 'centaur' and juggled it so it sounded exactly like the imperil march... classic shit.)

i still dont understand why people paint ugly walls and think it makes them cool. stock tips are shit and should be outlawed, especially on walls, and super especially on legal walls. just cause you have alot of numbers doesnt mean your good and it doesnt mean that just cause you think your some fucking super star, that anyone with half an ounce of intelligence of creativity cares to see that shit.
done ranting now.


Ima say it and you arent gonna like it...you really arent good and just because you try to make your pieces diffrent does not make them good or even original and just because you moderate here does not mean you have any clout in the real world, I would battle you with $.90 paint and stock caps while drinking a $1.50 40 oz....please stop preaching about shit......no one who knows the deal cares about what YOU say.



[This message has been edited by young republican (edited 08-18-2001).]

[iced out mocha]

Originally posted by seeking innocence:
ps. i wsnt saying that everyone that paints with stocks is wack or uncreative. just that the point of legal walls is to do something 'incredible' and 'exceptional', not just a standard middle of the night train piece...

the whole point? who said theres a POINT to anything. maybe someone who hated legals just wanted to piss people like you off. ever consider that? cause they sure as hell did a good job.

now enough with legal this legal that...post more flicks.

[seeking]

someday someone will be able to argue intelligently with me about shit instead of throwing out petty disses and insults to hide the fact they dont have shit to say. until then, dont destroy an otherwise good topic by talking about me. thats as bad as me talking about myself now isnt it?

[This message has been edited by seeking innocence (edited 08-18-2001).]

[imported_eiziv]

is that guy kidding?

[SmackMYass]

all this bullshit talk has made this topic gay...
this was about SCRIBBLE JAM...not about wak kids and shit like that..
oh well..
who am i to even get into this..
peace to you all..

[imported_dik.n.ur.ear]

Originally posted by seeking innocence:
if some Ny street bomber came in and burned your line with a bunch of hollows, youd be pissed. so when a bunch of train writers do sloppy train pieces on legal walls, its just confusing. what are you trying to prove? that you exist? the whole point of legal walls is to take your time and make something that people are gonna be stoked to see, not just so you can stand there and get jocked. legal walls also take out that bullshit 'im just trying to have fun' excuse.' if its that fun to push down a cap on a can, why dont fools just go nutts in their bathroom with spray on deoderant and leave the walls for people who care about shit like that?
i wasnt trying to dis anyone in specific, and certainly not a2m as a whole. ive posted several times about this same topic and i'll rant about it to anyone that will listen. its the fundamentals of graff, how can i not care? furthermore, i actually liked the lead piece (as much as i didnt want to,) i also liked the vizie piece alot. however i would have liked it ten times more if dude had acted like he cared how it came out.

finally, people can do anything they like, i have no vested interest in what anyone paints nor do i think my say means damn. but when people put out sub par work yet still act like they're a rock star cause of their crew or their rep that pisses me off. so many cats are breaking their backs to push graff further that watching big headed egos bumping into one another like tweedle dee and tweedle dum is just silly.

again, im not dissing anyone in particular, im talking abstractly about graff and theory. someday my words will be just my words and nothing more.

[This message has been edited by seeking innocence (edited 08-18-2001).]


you should stop before you make a bigger fool of yourself

[webmaster]

All the flics have been moved to another thread. stop arguing.

[Ouija]

I should know by now that every post, no matter how dope the artwork, degenerates into shit talking.

My opinion, if it matters at all, is pretty simple. Materials aren't important. Stocks or thins, the piece is gonna look pretty much the same from 10 feet away. The thing I personally love to look at is a piece up close and on the wall or train. This makes me paint clean, because it's fun for me. I know my aesthetics are a small minority, and that's cool. I don't walk up to another guys piece expecting some robotic perfection. A lot of people paint for the flick to look good, not real life nitpicking. As far as going off on a2m and whoever, that's stupid. I looked at the flicks on page 2, and they look good. What they look like in real life might be another story, but I didn't go to the jam and i didn't walk up to the piece to sniff the paint. The letters are good and it looks fun. Graff is entertaining to look at and it's fun. Next, Vizie, Lead, Crae, Totem, Push, When and everyone else's piece looks good and they look like they had fun painting. Regardless of what caps they use and what brand of paint. That shit shouldn't matter. Politics are fucking retarded and all that rockstar shit is wack. I don't know anyone, and I don't know who's rockstarring it out. Making assumptions is just as stupid and we should all look at the finished product and be happy someone's out painting and giving all of us internet fools something to cry about online. I know I get a lot of shit for what I like to paint, so mocking the other side of the spectrum is stupid. They're trying to have a good time and express themselves just the same.

As far as that comment on someone not liking legals and painting shitty to mock it, I think that's sorta dumb. Why are they going to attend a jam and paint? Everyone knows it's legal. I guess that only leaves room for more dubious intentions.

My personal favorites are Push, Crae, When (damn! I didn't know you could piece like that), Next, and Ewok. That's my favorite Ewok piece yet. His stuff is so cool and it has all kinds of interesting little details you can look at for hours.