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imported_joewelcome
02-11-2011, 04:24 AM
Derusto was a dope paint, came out under the ownership of Master Bronze, then shifted to Plough before Dap bought them out in the 1970s I believe.. Dap had a great run with the brand, and was definitely well distributed stuff. They were definitely up there in sales. Dap got sold to RPM/Rusto in the 90s I think, and now maybe you can see newer, crappier Derusto in chain discount spots...unless of course they killed off that brand also. Derusto was to RPM what Red Devil was to SWP- a brand demote to bargain status after late acquisition.

slyle
02-11-2011, 04:43 AM
These older cans, and even the ones they issued after this was incredible paint....I would say almost on par with rusto....

varivaldi
02-11-2011, 06:37 AM
Question - What Krylon colors (full list if possible) had the "New color for the 80's" sticker on the tops.?

Also, which had the "New" right on the top..? Thanks.

slyle
02-11-2011, 06:44 AM
If memory serves me it is similar to rusto's new colors for the 80's. Burgundy, Almond, Brick, Bonfire, Topaz Yellow, and possibly one more....Joe Welcome might be able to help on this one...

varivaldi
02-11-2011, 08:53 AM
Looks like there's a "New" can on the old ebay thing there. Ford Blue.

I have a few "New" terra cotta Krylons too. Add thems to the group.

varivaldi
02-11-2011, 09:02 AM
Apparently Coral and Light Peach were sporting those hats too..... Just checked my sexy can party shots folder I have of some of me cans and there too lies the terra cotta. Can it be...? Can't it be all so simple.... 18 and older only.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x205/graffhed/cans/DSC05368.jpg

Top gun
02-11-2011, 10:29 AM
Question - What Krylon colors (full list if possible) had the "New color for the 80's" sticker on the tops.?

Also, which had the "New" right on the top..? Thanks.

"NEW" on the top: Violet, 1807, 2406, 2507, and others.

alloverthetown
02-11-2011, 12:26 PM
little 60's Camaro action back there?

jib25
02-11-2011, 01:26 PM
If memory serves me it is similar to rusto's new colors for the 80's. Burgundy, Almond, Brick, Bonfire, Topaz Yellow, and possibly one more....Joe Welcome might be able to help on this one...

Beige too?

slyle
02-11-2011, 02:10 PM
Beige too?

No because beige was available before than in 68-75 series....

As for the newer cans with new caps you notice you had two different styles. In the older last issue borden cans I know it was light peach, teal blue, jade green, mauve, rose, colonial blue and I think Taupe......I could be wrong and I could be missing some.

the newer ones like terracotta, grape, warm brown, Chamois, Salmon, possibly a blue. Those were like 91/94 Sherwin Williams colors. I know top gun says violet, which could be right too...especially if he has one.

vintagespraypaint
02-11-2011, 02:35 PM
little 60's Camaro action back there?
Yeah 67....one of the two things in life I love more than paint

slyle
02-11-2011, 02:42 PM
Get that thing back together already....

bananahammock
02-11-2011, 04:40 PM
No because beige was available before than in 68-75 series....

As for the newer cans with new caps you notice you had two different styles. In the older last issue borden cans I know it was light peach, teal blue, jade green, mauve, rose, colonial blue and I think Taupe......I could be wrong and I could be missing some.

the newer ones like terracotta, grape, warm brown, Chamois, Salmon, possibly a blue. Those were like 91/94 Sherwin Williams colors. I know top gun says violet, which could be right too...especially if he has one.

slate blue was in that mix too i think. a great color

OG5BALL
02-11-2011, 05:48 PM
Yeah 67....one of the two things in life I love more than paint

we should do can pics with the rides when were done building em. lol

Juca
02-11-2011, 06:32 PM
can someone post a pic of krylon with bike on the label? someone?? let see some!

slyle
02-11-2011, 09:12 PM
slate blue was in that mix too i think. a great color

How could I miss slate blue....and I think chippewa might have been a new color for the 80's..

OG5BALL
02-11-2011, 09:13 PM
can someone post a pic of krylon with bike on the label? someone?? let see some!

Heres an Avacado i found with the bike symbol. Pretty rare.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG00979-20110207-1459-1.jpg

Juca
02-11-2011, 10:25 PM
i failed og,dope can,i was taking about motorcycle label.

imported_joewelcome
02-11-2011, 10:31 PM
it was 8 For the 80s, and even though Beige wasn't a new color, it WAS included.
more later.

imported_joewelcome
02-11-2011, 11:47 PM
Almond
Beige
Bonfire
Brick
Burgundy
Chippewa
Pearl Gray
Topaz Yellow


Used to be that Burgundy and Pearl Gray were the toughest to get, and I imagine that's still the case.

Rustofills
02-12-2011, 02:42 AM
one of my favorite screen savers on my computer at work.
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/3969704640_8537b15b88_b.jpg
just came

slyle
02-12-2011, 03:12 AM
Almond
Beige
Bonfire
Brick
Burgundy
Chippewa
Pearl Gray
Topaz Yellow


Used to be that Burgundy and Pearl Gray were the toughest to get, and I imagine that's still the case.


Damn you Joewelcome you are right again.....sorry Jib

varivaldi
02-12-2011, 05:06 AM
Thanks for the replies youz guys....I'd like to put together an "80's" and "New" tops set....ahh, a girl can dream.

slyle
02-12-2011, 05:16 AM
not that hard, well except for the new color for the 80's. Some of those are hard to find, no less find with that label.....I bet if someone wanted we could reprint the labels to add to notch tops....

dune493
02-12-2011, 05:30 AM
OK FOLKS. What is your top 5 RUSTO AA favorite colors.

slyle
02-12-2011, 05:46 AM
Raspberry, Summer Squash, Wildflower Blue, Leafy Green, and Heirloom White (only cause I had a shit load of it) Honorable mention to indian spice and autumn gold, but by the time I started using them they stopped making it....oh and Dune hit me up got some vinyl news for you....

varivaldi
02-12-2011, 07:33 AM
Top 5 - Raspberry (RIP around here), Green Apple, Green Apple, Farmhouse Red (RIP a.h.), Seaside Green (RIP a.h.)

Honorable mention - Blackberry (RIP a.h.), Summer Squash, Leafy Green,

Side note - Autumn Gold: Haven't used. Have 2 cans. Never saw it for sale but was given 2. Would like to. One day maybe.

I've oft pondered the green selection with American Accent. It's pretty broad. And they don't have a "Hunter Green", though they have Hunt Club Green , but at least the name is snazzed up. 6 greens in total. Guess it goes with the nice patio housewife type. I only ever see satin AA at my retail art spot. Then all of a sudden my liquidator place started, no longer though, getting AA gloss in really dope flavors: Cabana Blue, Cocoa etc. The catch was they were sporting the new male valves. They AA's at the art spot never pushed out any new valve or gloss cans. So help me I will jump out of my one story window if AA messes around with the good stuff. Enough is enough already. My favorite paint to use.

EPMDfan
02-12-2011, 08:01 AM
not that hard, well except for the new color for the 80's. Some of those are hard to find, no less find with that label.....I bet if someone wanted we could reprint the labels to add to notch tops....

They put them on regular top cans too not just notch tops. In my opinion adding a sticker to a top that didn't have it is like adding a top to a can that didn't come with it, doing that is bootlegging the can that you can't find and to me that ain't right...

EPMDfan
02-12-2011, 08:08 AM
slate blue was in that mix too i think. a great color

Light beige was also a New cap on the barcode cans and I believe pewter grey was as well. I think there may be one or 2 missing still but can't think of them off the top of my head..

imported_joewelcome
02-12-2011, 12:13 PM
hmmmmm. so many AA colors. i have utterly no idea what new AA is like (fantips now?), and i just had to check the website to see what's still in production. i'm not boasting, for years we were cleaning up whatever early AA colors we could find.

Indian Spice and Autumn Gold are total winners, totally obvious since they've been discontinued and have been mentioned. But buttery and rich colors like nothing else.

I enjoyed Iris Blue, Cinnamon, Maple Sugar, the original Silver, and Green Apple became such a jocked color, but it was a shockwave when it came out. Not long after Berry Pink PT (and Spa Blue PT for that matter) and it was suddenly everywhere and being used to death. Goes to show you that even in the past decade, a new, bright and atypical color could be released by a US brand and people would flip over it. I don't know if that still happens...... nowadays I find plain red and plain black Montana cans left on sidewalks and alleys and it just puzzles the fuck out of me. I'm old I guess.

nocomply
02-12-2011, 01:59 PM
i didn't even learn about AA until 99. a dude i know was like..it's rustoleum dude. i was like oh word? around that time big lots had a shit load clearanced out around here..summer squash, farmhouse red, for like $2 a can or something,..but i also love moss green and leafy green..wildflower blue, cinnamon, butternut? is good too...summer squash fill with farmhouse red outline is my favorite just for memories.

jib25
02-12-2011, 02:27 PM
Can someone post a flick of Autumn Gold, maybe next to an Indian Spice so I can gauge the color? Don't know if I've ever seen Autumn Gold altho' I've certainly heard that it compares to Indian Spice.

Old style AA flicks please!!!

BIGMETALCIRCUS
02-12-2011, 03:38 PM
1. Indian Spice
2. Autumn Gold
3. Leafy Green/Green Apple (leafy pretty much went out the window when Green Apple came in)
4. Peacock
5. Aqua

Some old, some new. Hard to limit it to 5 colors. Honorable mentions - AA Sour Apple (Lowes only), AA Orchid (Lowes only) and AA Honey (because it was a throwback to A.Gold, only a bit more dull)...also Cinnamon and Raspberry!

vintagespraypaint
02-12-2011, 05:15 PM
Iris blue, leafy green, indian spice, grape, raspberry.

vintagespraypaint
02-12-2011, 06:24 PM
nice one slyle I completely forgot about wildflower blue, what a nice color.

Juca
02-12-2011, 09:24 PM
my girlfriend bought and gave me this can today,100 % full,never used :) mint green glossy.
http://i55.tinypic.com/21lpyzm.jpg

top

http://i56.tinypic.com/2a6w5k5.jpg

slyle
02-12-2011, 10:05 PM
EPMD your right on the light beige, pewter sounds correct too.....

As far as bootlegging, I get that....but guys do that with cars all the time. Take a satelite and make it a roadrunner and so on. An educated collector should know when something has been screwed with.

How many times do people send cans and tops are wrong, playing ignorance about it. Saying they found it that way. When you find "Outdoor" cans (Flea Markets, garage sales, second hand not NOS) you have to assume tops could be switched. I have even seen stuff on shelves in stores that had tops mistakenly switched. The worst is you get a can where the top looks wrong, you take off the top and the can under is destroyed, like it has not had a top for 20+ years and someone added a top to it. Or swapping tops to make a can look legit. I have heard of people doing it to pineapple yellow because krylon had so many yellows. I have sold and traded cans with tops that I put on or painted, BUT I ALWAYS inform the new owner that it is not the correct/original top.

Harvey Wallbanger
02-12-2011, 10:15 PM
I can see re-gluing labels and "new color" stickers on, but once you're printing new shit, it seems like people might as well just print out an entire line of Big Face paper labels and wrap them around wai-mart cans to put on their shelves.

Juca
02-12-2011, 10:18 PM
EPMD your right on the light beige, pewter sounds correct too.....

As far as bootlegging, I get that....but guys do that with cars all the time. Take a satelite and make it a roadrunner and so on. An educated collector should know when something has been screwed with.

How many times do people send cans and tops are wrong, playing ignorance about it. Saying they found it that way. When you find "Outdoor" cans (Flea Markets, garage sales, second hand not NOS) you have to assume tops could be switched. I have even seen stuff on shelves in stores that had tops mistakenly switched. The worst is you get a can where the top looks wrong, you take off the top and the can under is destroyed, like it has not had a top for 20+ years and someone added a top to it. Or swapping tops to make a can look legit. I have heard of people doing it to pineapple yellow because krylon had so many yellows. I have sold and traded cans with tops that I put on or painted, BUT I ALWAYS inform the new owner that it is not the correct/original top.

y wrong tops are fucked up shit,you w8ing for your can and then bam,shits like home printed bar code "jungle green" on some plastikote green top,top wont even sit on the can 100%,i hate reglued shits

Harvey Wallbanger
02-12-2011, 10:19 PM
Also:

Indian Spice
Midnight Blue (I can't believe this one hasn't been mentioned! I used to love outlining silvers with this)
Wildflower Blue
Summer Squash
Autumn Gold

Top gun
02-12-2011, 10:21 PM
That's why i don't buy cans on internet...But it's a fact that i've often found old cans with wrong tops, but i only discover it way later, cause i don't automatically take the top off, cause many times it brokes.

OG5BALL
02-12-2011, 11:20 PM
Todays finds.....

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01028-20110212-1513.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01029-20110212-1513.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01030-20110212-1514.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01031-20110212-1514.jpg

jib25
02-12-2011, 11:43 PM
Damn OG! All nice stuff yet again.

varivaldi
02-13-2011, 12:26 AM
Also:

Indian Spice
Midnight Blue (I can't believe this one hasn't been mentioned! I used to love outlining silvers with this)
Wildflower Blue
Summer Squash
Autumn Gold

Yes, Midnight blue too. I filled with it a few times and it ate my outline. Seems like AA sometimes does that. Recently Iris and Wildflower made me wait like 15 minutes before it would stop absorbing my outline color into it's infinite chasm. Don't see it on shelves any longer.

varivaldi
02-13-2011, 12:29 AM
That ENVY GREEN...what a name. and the Capri is cool too. So may labels are so similar among brands... Trademark infringement anyone..?

slyle
02-13-2011, 03:17 AM
nice one slyle I completely forgot about wildflower blue, what a nice color.

Yeah but Iris was also super dope....if I rememberd iris I woulda named it too...cinamon and grape are also dope...

infamousscribbler
02-13-2011, 04:43 AM
Came across these recently, wanted to see if anyone here has any info on em, I couldn't find out much about them myself.

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n632/boccideathball/IMG00612.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n632/boccideathball/IMG00613.jpg

varivaldi
02-13-2011, 07:12 AM
Yeah I have some info....they're dope!!!!! That parrot green is the tits.

infamousscribbler
02-13-2011, 07:44 AM
Figured it was. I haggled for a box full of Borden Krylons along with it, so I got that can for 50 cents in the deal.

varivaldi
02-13-2011, 08:39 AM
I should clarify, I was stating my opinion on the matter of the above 2 cans. I think I mostly boiled my main interest in color names. Like those names that really have a smoothness to them or fruit or animal names for example. Parrot Green or Lemon Yellow for instance. Throwing a cool or a hot in front helps coax me into a drool from time to time too. I've never had the occasion to use an Icy Grape or a Hot Pink, but I can only imagine if I did a split fill fade with icy on the top and hot on the bottom that Shaq would all of a sudden appear trying to sell me an Errshy Hert Berck Pertch...

They have anything in them..?

infamousscribbler
02-13-2011, 10:06 AM
They have anything in them..?

Those two? Yes, they're unused.

imported_joewelcome
02-13-2011, 12:20 PM
did a split fill fade with icy on the top and hot on the bottom that Shaq would all of a sudden appear trying to sell me an Errshy Hert Berck Pertch...


your creativity is appreciated around here, young man! :)

the more i think about it, i think i like the idea of "rebuilding" cans. boombox collectors reproduce the original labels that were over the speaker grills to make their obviously used boxes look as if they were still in the store. in my opinion, the more time passes, it will get considerably harder to find many cans in store-quality shape (1- or higher) and we'll all be settling for "dumpers" and used cans. if repro'ing cap labels helps maintain the history and chronology of cans, then i'm for it. it does have to be done with care and taste, and there lies the rub, as they say.

Flecto is a classic, they made amazing colors and their earlier cans aren't fansprays. IIRC, the Envy Green was noted for being a thick green in that shade back whenever, something that Jungle notoriously wasn't. i think multiple collectors have a few here and there, but it'd be awesome to see someone work on collecting that line. it's not an easy one.

ahhhh Lucite. DuPont paint, clearly, in a later can style. their paint cans go way back. check to see what it contains, since the older ones use "plasticized coconut" as a base... who can forget that? also a brand that's pretty cool and came in great colors.

you guys are coming up on some great cans, keep at it!

Top gun
02-13-2011, 12:36 PM
I have a huge stock of 70's(maybe some 60's, haven't seen all the boxes) Flecto sleeping in my hometown for years...I gotta get them soon, when i'll have some place to stock them. Maybe i'll get some ill colors like Envy Green. Anyone has a Flecto chart?

Top gun
02-13-2011, 12:43 PM
I was checking the charts on CMC, and i was wondering...Krylon Pontiac Blue looks like an amazing blue doesn't it? Ford Green too...

I was also checking Krylon color chart in Fuzz's first book, and was wondering if anybody has the complete Krylon set, with auto colors, splatters, implement and others?

Juca
02-13-2011, 02:42 PM
which colors are available in dupli "touch-up" spray? its a small can with some red can on the label.

slyle
02-13-2011, 03:00 PM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01028-20110212-1513.jpg

Whats the sticker on that Yellow flat ball SWP???

Juca
02-13-2011, 03:11 PM
seems like "foc complitat formula",something like that...

Juca
02-13-2011, 03:13 PM
which colors are available in dupli "touch-up" spray? its a small can with some red can on the label.

i'm talking about this can

http://i56.tinypic.com/72ziv7.jpg

slyle
02-13-2011, 04:03 PM
They made those cans in hundreds of colors all to match car colors. Most are metallic shades and some are not. Just like it says on the can it was made to duplicate your cars original color, using for touch up. Lots of companies used to make cans like that, but not that much anymore.

Juca
02-13-2011, 05:47 PM
They made those cans in hundreds of colors all to match car colors. Most are metallic shades and some are not. Just like it says on the can it was made to duplicate your cars original color, using for touch up. Lots of companies used to make cans like that, but not that much anymore.

they are good collectible cans,and now rare they are today? rarest then 80's flatball?

plz can you post any of thoose cans if you have any...

Juca
02-13-2011, 05:50 PM
dope

http://beachpackagingdesign.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54f0014bd88340115715536d0970c-800wi

Juca
02-13-2011, 05:52 PM
http://beachpackagingdesign.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54f0014bd88340115721fbea4970b-pi

varivaldi
02-13-2011, 07:06 PM
dope

http://beachpackagingdesign.typepad.com/.a/6a00e54f0014bd88340115715536d0970c-800wi

Holy crap, it's Mr. Spray's cousin Fire Extinguisher Freddy......

Hullucination
02-13-2011, 07:18 PM
hahaha

jib25
02-13-2011, 07:23 PM
lol..

jib25
02-13-2011, 07:24 PM
Juca, I've found a bunch of those at my one spot. Will post in a bit.

Juca
02-13-2011, 07:28 PM
Juca, I've found a bunch of those at my one spot. Will post in a bit.

those cans are dope,post em!

jib25
02-13-2011, 08:07 PM
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/mealism/dupli.jpg

jib25
02-13-2011, 08:09 PM
Love how the style of the cars changes over the years. The two older versions on the right are some of my favorite can graphics out there. Probably the far right takes the cake...

Juca
02-13-2011, 08:12 PM
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/mealism/dupli.jpg

they are fucking dope!!!! if i ever finish my collection (german 80's-90's) dupli colors next collection will be us dupli touch up's,they are metal tops right? how rare they are now? and how old?

slyle
02-13-2011, 08:16 PM
The two on the far right are most likely late 50's early 60's because they do not include the warning you see on the later cans(not to mention the style of car is from that era). The Dupli-coor spray enamel and the one finger "it's so easy" design is great. Only thing that would make it seam easeir is if a house wife was doing it......

Juca
02-13-2011, 08:18 PM
The two on the far right are most likely late 50's early 60's because they do not include the warning you see on the later cans(not to mention the style of car is from that era). The Dupli-coor spray enamel and the one finger "it's so easy" design is great. Only thing that would make it seam easeir is if a house wife was doing it......

they are all litho labels or paper labels too??

slyle
02-13-2011, 08:19 PM
all litho, don't think they made them in paper label at all....

jib25
02-13-2011, 08:23 PM
Juca- There's one on Ebay right now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Duplicolor-Vintage-Spray-Paint-78-79-GM-Cars-DS-GM278-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c56f41bbeQQitemZ19043 7399486QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

jib25
02-13-2011, 08:25 PM
Yeah, all metal tops and all litho. the two older styles have fat seems too.

I'm after a 13oz with the same design as the far right... those are such tight cans!

Top gun
02-13-2011, 08:35 PM
they are fucking dope!!!! if i ever finish my collection (german 80's-90's) dupli colors next collection will be us dupli touch up's,they are metal tops right? how rare they are now? and how old?

Woooaaah that one on the far right, never seen before, super-dope design!!!

Juca, good luck for completing a Dupli collection...There are so many different cans for the 80's, i don't even talk about the 90's...And i don't even talk about different colors!

Top gun
02-13-2011, 08:58 PM
http://thesedelights.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/hog1.png

Some great cans pictured, can't wait to read this book...

Juca
02-13-2011, 10:15 PM
Juca- There's one on Ebay right now:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Duplicolor-Vintage-Spray-Paint-78-79-GM-Cars-DS-GM278-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem2c56f41bbeQQitemZ19043 7399486QQptZMotorcyclesQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

yep i seen it,that top is fucked up :( if i'm gonna pay ill pay for good can...

Juca
02-13-2011, 10:17 PM
http://thesedelights.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/hog1.png

Some great cans pictured, can't wait to read this book...

which book is that,where to buy and how much $? any euro brans inside?

Juca
02-13-2011, 10:22 PM
Woooaaah that one on the far right, never seen before, super-dope design!!!

Juca, good luck for completing a Dupli collection...There are so many different cans for the 80's, i don't even talk about the 90's...And i don't even talk about different colors!

my 1. goal is to complete this type of cans

http://i55.tinypic.com/qozvdh.jpg

i dont even know how many color they used to have since i dont have color chart or any other info.. so TOP you think that it will be hard?

vintagespraypaint
02-13-2011, 10:34 PM
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/DSC05713_edited-1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/P3050637.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/P3050638.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/P3050639.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/P3050640.jpg

vintagespraypaint
02-13-2011, 10:39 PM
Heres a few from last week I didn't post.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/2011-02-13_14-28-08_460.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/2011-02-13_14-28-25_372.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/2011-02-13_14-28-35_601.jpg

Juca
02-13-2011, 10:41 PM
damn!!!! im jealous lol :D

vintagespraypaint
02-13-2011, 10:41 PM
I know most of these are reposts, but seeing as some of the odd balls are a big hit lately, here are some of my favorite old pics....
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/P3060721.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/P3060722.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/P3060733.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/DSC05570.jpg

vintagespraypaint
02-13-2011, 10:47 PM
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/toys017.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/807003.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/vintagesmalltops010.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/newpaints003.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/P3050673.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/P3050671.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/P3060719.jpg
ok done for the day

Top gun
02-13-2011, 10:54 PM
my 1. goal is to complete this type of cans

http://i55.tinypic.com/qozvdh.jpg

i dont even know how many color they used to have since i dont have color chart or any other info.. so TOP you think that it will be hard?

Coming across those in stores is almost impossible, for my part of Europe in any case...But i think there must be like 30 or 40 colors for this type of Dupli, a regular chart in fact.

Juca
02-13-2011, 10:57 PM
Coming across those in stores is almost impossible, for my part of Europe in any case...But i think there must be like 30 or 40 colors for this type of Dupli, a regular chart in fact.

still can be found here in Croatia :)

jib25
02-13-2011, 11:58 PM
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/2011-02-13_14-28-35_601.jpg[/QUOTE]

Dope little fire extinguisher can!

slyle
02-14-2011, 12:37 AM
Yeah, all metal tops and all litho. the two older styles have fat seems too.

I'm after a 13oz with the same design as the far right... those are such tight cans!

Jib I think I might have them.


Wondering if anyone else has had any luck with craigslist....this is only the second score in the past couple years I have gotten from it. Finally breaking a long winter dry spell I have had with cans...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5091/5443004911_1efefe345d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/slyle133/5443004911/)

Juca
02-14-2011, 12:43 AM
Jib I think I might have them.


Wondering if anyone else has had any luck with craigslist....this is only the second score in the past couple years I have gotten from it. Finally breaking a long winter dry spell I have had with cans...

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5091/5443004911_1efefe345d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/slyle133/5443004911/)

j deer is dope!

EPMDfan
02-14-2011, 12:56 AM
I can see re-gluing labels and "new color" stickers on, but once you're printing new shit, it seems like people might as well just print out an entire line of Big Face paper labels and wrap them around wai-mart cans to put on their shelves.

I agree 100%!!! I mean if you do it for yourself thats fine but what's fucked up is when those cans start getting into circulation it fucks everything up just like Slyle said about cans with the wrong tops on them, its the same thing and when they start making the rounds and getting into circulation it fucks up the whole integrity of it IMO...

EPMDfan
02-14-2011, 12:59 AM
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01028-20110212-1513.jpg

Whats the sticker on that Yellow flat ball SWP???

It says VOC Compliant Formula and in small print I believe it says something about California but I'd have to pull a can out of storage and verify that... These were stickers that were on cans in CA because we were the first state to have the VOC compliant Law go into effect and we were the first state to get the Sherwin Williams Krylon cans because it was the VOC compliant formula. The reason it's so hard to find cans in a store in CA is because when they passed this law any store that did not have VOC compliant paint on their shelves could be fined something like $10,000-$20,000. The Borden Krylons literially came off store shelves in Cali overnight. We were pissed because the Sherwin cans were so much more watery then the Borden cans we were used to painting with.

slyle
02-14-2011, 01:13 AM
Interesting Ed thats the first I ever heard of that.....

vintagespraypaint
02-14-2011, 01:23 AM
Nice score slyle on the HP notch.
Again more dupe pics, but this is the only good score i got from CL and this was about 3 years ago.
A guy took all of his stock out of his store when VOC regulations changed in CA....
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/krylonsss001.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/krylonsss002.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/krylonsss004.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/paintsale016.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/sale003.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/sale007.jpg

jib25
02-14-2011, 01:24 AM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5091/5443004911_1efefe345d.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/slyle133/5443004911/)[/QUOTE]

Fucking juicy!! Awesome score. No Craigslist scores for a while, mostly since there's little to no yard sales during the Winter. Anyone tried Freecycle? I scored some nice cans through there last year. old AA's Raspberry, Indian Spice etc. Worth a shot!

ivanputski
02-14-2011, 04:07 AM
500$ for icy grape? seriously? I let mine go way too cheap!

EPMDfan
02-14-2011, 04:21 AM
I have to say I am surprised I thought it would go for around 350-400 but I have seen several over the years sell for between 400-500... never seen it go for more then 500 though so we shall see...

varivaldi
02-14-2011, 07:00 AM
@ Vintage - sick pics man. Dog repellent, that's an awesome can..and that Kwite Wet pic. The cans are kinda bland, kinda, but the name and the colors/names are tight.

Craigslist - I had some minor scores in the past few years. It's super sick for getting free house paint for wall productions. I can get more gallons and quarts etc. than I can store or use. It's crazy how people just let me, a stranger, into their homes and go thru their basements and take all the paint I want. Love it.

jib25
02-14-2011, 01:11 PM
Fact of the day: Did you know that Yellow & Pink color combinations are most often associated with pornographic material? Well... there you have it, and I think that flick speaks for itself.

slyle
02-14-2011, 01:34 PM
Try again

slyle
02-14-2011, 01:35 PM
Fact of the day: Did you know that Yellow & Pink color combinations are most often associated with pornographic material? Well... there you have it, and I think that flick speaks for itself.

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2264/1679498633_f5b9aca5e0.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22111855@N00/1679498633/)

jib25
02-14-2011, 02:36 PM
Yeah... the Rids Dog Repellent! Dope!

jib25
02-14-2011, 02:37 PM
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2264/1679498633_f5b9aca5e0.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/22111855@N00/1679498633/)

Awesome stuff... :lol:

imported_joewelcome
02-14-2011, 03:53 PM
ahhhh Kill Bill.

pay attention to that score everyone.... you never see Hot Pink notches, and first one to find a case will be a very lucky dog.

imported_joewelcome
02-14-2011, 03:57 PM
I agree 100%!!! I mean if you do it for yourself thats fine but what's fucked up is when those cans start getting into circulation it fucks everything up just like Slyle said about cans with the wrong tops on them, its the same thing and when they start making the rounds and getting into circulation it fucks up the whole integrity of it IMO...

it's too late and it's already happening, has been for years. it's way too hard to police this, especially over the internet with unreliable photo details and everything else.

we have to set a standard of respect and honesty. that and start keeping and trading overcaps.

Top gun
02-14-2011, 04:25 PM
Respect and honesty...since there's money in game it sounds like a dream...

When did Krylon left the big logo to the straight one? Understand what i mean?

Juca
02-14-2011, 07:25 PM
my dupli color's

http://i56.tinypic.com/syv9ed.jpg

today was a nice sunny day,so i went on my village with my girlfriend and she bought me dupli light green,dope color!

http://i54.tinypic.com/2coj7k1.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/ka01u1.jpg

and one dope 73' trans am and other pontiac :)

http://i55.tinypic.com/292740z.jpg

http://i54.tinypic.com/xbi7w8.jpg

Juca
02-14-2011, 07:58 PM
http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_zBv2xewSMnw/TM82ZzkvB1I/AAAAAAAAA7Q/-qGv9IG7jVo/s1600/P201010_17.080001.JPG

jib25
02-14-2011, 09:12 PM
Damn those caps look like some Regal Blue colored skinny caps that used to come off Scotch spray adhesive years ago. They have the little ridge at the bottom around the edge.

Nice cans too Juca!

Juca
02-14-2011, 09:49 PM
damn thoose oil cans are sick!

http://i55.tinypic.com/2nrgieb.jpg

http://i52.tinypic.com/2zf49du.jpg

http://i53.tinypic.com/2ztg478.jpg

slyle
02-14-2011, 10:59 PM
Juca is that T/A yours? Got a 78 myself...

EPMDfan
02-15-2011, 12:02 AM
it's too late and it's already happening, has been for years. it's way too hard to police this, especially over the internet with unreliable photo details and everything else.

we have to set a standard of respect and honesty. that and start keeping and trading overcaps.

It's one thing to be keeping correct caps off cans and trading/selling them to people, it's another to bootleg a sticker that was on a cap... Then instead of having wrong tops on cans now you are gonna have people putting name label stickers on barcode cans or barcode stickers on ingredients cans and then they get into circulation and the counterfitting gets worse. I think it's better to push people to be honest like you said then to push them to possibly restore a can incorrectly. The least amount of bootlegged stuff that hits the market the better!!!

Juca
02-15-2011, 12:04 AM
Juca is that T/A yours? Got a 78 myself...

y its mine,but fuck it all when taxe is not paid on this can (imported from usa) and when i cant find even a fcking spark plugs for am :lol: ill change it for clean titled 900 rr :lol:

slyle
02-15-2011, 01:57 AM
It's one thing to be keeping correct caps off cans and trading/selling them to people, it's another to bootleg a sticker that was on a cap... Then instead of having wrong tops on cans now you are gonna have people putting name label stickers on barcode cans or barcode stickers on ingredients cans and then they get into circulation and the counterfitting gets worse. I think it's better to push people to be honest like you said then to push them to possibly restore a can incorrectly. The least amount of bootlegged stuff that hits the market the better!!!

If you know your cans you know that there is a particular back to bar codes and name labels. Not sure if name and ing labels had differences. Some of them came with both name and ing stickers.

I seen someone who bootlegged an icy grape label only they forgot that the ings. on the back of the label also states the color, and charcoal black it was not.....

slyle
02-15-2011, 01:59 AM
y its mine,but fuck it all when taxe is not paid on this can (imported from usa) and when i cant find even a fcking spark plugs for am :lol: ill change it for clean titled 900 rr :lol:

You can just order what parts you need online or is their too much in taxes due....

EPMDfan
02-15-2011, 03:31 AM
If you know your cans you know that there is a particular back to bar codes and name labels. Not sure if name and ing labels had differences. Some of them came with both name and ing stickers.

I seen someone who bootlegged an icy grape label only they forgot that the ings. on the back of the label also states the color, and charcoal black it was not.....

Key word... IF... MOST people do not know there is a difference. I mean look at how into cans you are and you didn't even know there was a difference in cans from a Name label to Ingredients. I have seen a lot of name label and ingredients label caps on barcode cans because people swap them cause the can is cleaner and that just fucks things up so after a while people don't know what is what.

Yes some cans did come with both ingredients and name labels on them in fact I have a bonfire in the correct can with both ingredients label and name label BUT with a notch top... :lol:

I know the Icy Grape you speak of and that person did a lot of shady stuff regarding cans, switching tops, trying to pass off the wrong tops on cans and so on.

slyle
02-15-2011, 04:23 AM
Key word... IF... MOST people do not know there is a difference. I mean look at how into cans you are and you didn't even know there was a difference in cans from a Name label to Ingredients. I have seen a lot of name label and ingredients label caps on barcode cans because people swap them cause the can is cleaner and that just fucks things up so after a while people don't know what is what.

Yes some cans did come with both ingredients and name labels on them in fact I have a bonfire in the correct can with both ingredients label and name label BUT with a notch top... :lol:

I know the Icy Grape you speak of and that person did a lot of shady stuff regarding cans, switching tops, trying to pass off the wrong tops on cans and so on.

Not that I didn't know, just was not sure. There was also 2 styles of ing labels and 2 styles of name labels. I have also seen double variations on some bar code labels. And yes Ing labels on notch tops has happened, think I had a popsicle orange like that. Just like you can find some fat seam name on cans, and paper label sherwin williams. There is also the odd borden bar code cherry red with the name on can....never seen that in another color. I don't think it was krylon doing it, but the different companies they had making cans for them....

I think some people swap tops not noticing some of the subtle differnces, thats why its good to have forums like this so people know what is correct. Swapping fat lips on Supreme Quality Devils is also very common. There is only 2 styles of tops they take, and one style of can in 3 different weights that take fat lips.

varivaldi
02-15-2011, 04:59 AM
I'm really digging the discussions taking place in here lately. It's like we hooked up an AED (heart paddles) to the thread and kick started it back to life. Stoked.


On the label making/swapping topic. Here's an example. I need the sticker not present in the flick. It didn't come with one when I bought the set (are there more colors than these..?) and I would like to complete the look. Anyone have it that would help me out with a copy of the sticker..? Here ye here ye, I doth not have any intentions of bamboozling anyone in the future by selling these and not mentioning the "copied" sticker. That's not my style. That and the fact that I'm not letting go of these unless I need bail money or an organ transplant. Neither being in my immediate future. Anyone wanna be a pal and help me..? Thanks.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x205/graffhed/cans/DSC05371.jpg

Juca
02-15-2011, 10:53 AM
You can just order what parts you need online or is their too much in taxes due....

taxe is 23% here in croatia so its so expensive,as far as i know there's one more AM croatia around 180 km from my house,i will go and see if i can buy that one for parts...

imported_joewelcome
02-15-2011, 12:45 PM
valdi brings up two good points....

1- removing ego from the equation is essential.
-----d'ya hear that, graffiti thugs and insecure paint nerds?---
essential. it's what we need to do in order to put quality information about cans and can details out there. in doing to, we can encourage worthwhile collectors by educating those who are willing to learn. we've been looking at these cans for years and trying to find out where the patterns are and just figuring out the chronology took time and collaboration (remember those days?). the more we explain to people how those who care about this hobby less than we do can take advantage of them, the better off everyone is.

2- i have UTTERLY no problem with what valdi wants to do. he needs a Ramona Red barcode label and then he'll have the Kalifornia Kolors complete. he's not trying to pass it off and hornswoggle anyone, he's looking to shelf the cans and display them well. in other words--- he's trying to do EXACTLY WHAT THIS HOBBY IS ABOUT. anyone with a collection has done this, cleaning cans, painting a duplicate cap, whatever, because the only damn thing you can do with collectible spray paint is display it. we all know this. if for any reason he sells it down the line, he'll probably do exactly why slyle said- he'd say "here's all the Kalifornias, but the Ramona red has a rebuilt/duplicate label." my point is not only that there's no harm in that, but it's going to become necessary in the future as all cans will only get rarer. i'd much rather keep this thing alive rather that fool myself into thinking i'm keeping it 100% "pure".


oh, and i wish nothing bad for valdi's organs, but the day that Kalifornia Kolors help with an organ transplant, i'll be quite pleased.

Juca
02-15-2011, 01:09 PM
I'm really digging the discussions taking place in here lately. It's like we hooked up an AED (heart paddles) to the thread and kick started it back to life. Stoked.


On the label making/swapping topic. Here's an example. I need the sticker not present in the flick. It didn't come with one when I bought the set (are there more colors than these..?) and I would like to complete the look. Anyone have it that would help me out with a copy of the sticker..? Here ye here ye, I doth not have any intentions of bamboozling anyone in the future by selling these and not mentioning the "copied" sticker. That's not my style. That and the fact that I'm not letting go of these unless I need bail money or an organ transplant. Neither being in my immediate future. Anyone wanna be a pal and help me..? Thanks.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x205/graffhed/cans/DSC05371.jpg

valdi you need top stickers for those cans?? if yes why,they looks good man..

slyle
02-15-2011, 01:35 PM
I think I just passed on ramona reds at a spot.....Finding a replacement top should be easier than duplicating the label. Its the smaller labeled tops that I believe are SWP cans....oh and that is the complete set there is no more.

Juca
02-15-2011, 05:07 PM
one question,if you have fucked up label on the top (label which is blank,you cant see the letters on label) you will change that label with other one or just keep it like that?

OG5BALL
02-15-2011, 05:34 PM
Heres something different i found today...

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01040-20110215-0929.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01041-20110215-0930.jpg

EPMDfan
02-15-2011, 05:46 PM
There is also the odd borden bar code cherry red with the name on can....never seen that in another color. I don't think it was krylon doing it, but the different companies they had making cans for them....


How about a paper label bar code borden almond?? I got one of those in the vault...
Krylon did some werid shit from the beginning at least rusto was consistant with stuff...

EPMDfan
02-15-2011, 05:50 PM
Vari... I think I might have an extra Ramona Red cap with the sticker on it or I might possibly have just the sticker i will check and let you know

Juca
02-15-2011, 06:11 PM
one question,if you have fucked up label on the top (label which is blank,you cant see the letters on label) you will change that label with other one or just keep it like that?

someone?

Juca
02-15-2011, 06:13 PM
can someone tell me where i can buy CMC book and its book or just some flyer? and inside that book i can find color codes/names too?

Juca
02-15-2011, 07:09 PM
dope rusto radio

http://cgi.ebay.com/RUST-OLEUM-PAINT-CAN-NOVELITY-RADIO-NIB-/270706337643?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f075ae76b

varivaldi
02-15-2011, 08:05 PM
Vari... I think I might have an extra Ramona Red cap with the sticker on it or I might possibly have just the sticker i will check and let you know

Thanks E.


@ Slyle - Did you say you recently passed on grabbing Kali Kolors? Any reason why..? Also, did anyone ever track that Kali Kolors display box down yet....that thing is too rad.

And were these cans any good or are they kinda flourescent..?

@ Juca - because I want to have al the names present for visual purposes. It's the obsessive nature of collecting.

Top gun
02-15-2011, 08:15 PM
dope rusto radio

http://cgi.ebay.com/RUST-OLEUM-PAINT-CAN-NOVELITY-RADIO-NIB-/270706337643?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3f075ae76b


I wish i'll find some dope publicity objects like this one with some french or euro brands.

Juca
02-15-2011, 09:22 PM
I wish i'll find some dope publicity objects like this one with some french or euro brands.

y me too ^^

slyle
02-15-2011, 09:29 PM
@ Slyle - Did you say you recently passed on grabbing Kali Kolors? Any reason why..? Also, did anyone ever track that Kali Kolors display box down yet....that thing is too rad.


Just to much stuff that I am sitting on. Plus the spot is close enough I can grab it I need to. Space is at a premium with me at this point and I have to be selective what cans I bring in. Feel free to come out here and lighten the load....will keep you in mind next time I am near the spot though.

As far as the display, I believe it ended up in vegas, I really should try and dig that kid up....

OG5BALL
02-15-2011, 09:50 PM
Juca your package is on its way to Croatia. Hope that shit gets there. Im nervous it wont go through customs. But everythings drained, and theres 2 holes in the bottom of each can.

The guy looked at me funny because the fuckin balls were rolling around in the box, but i just said they were toys. Hopefully these will look better for that display you posted a few pages back. Cant be having primer in there..

Juca
02-15-2011, 09:55 PM
since i have few bad labels,my question is "what to do,to keep the labels like this or to replace em with printed labels,or to take new labels with same code,color name and bar code,but they are without "RAL code" and they looks different,also if i dont like the place where labels are (on some cans they are on good place on the top,on other cans they are on bad place,so to keep it like that or to work on them?"

also here you can see 2 labels where you cant see letters,they are blank,what to do with them?

http://i56.tinypic.com/20kc7ky.jpg

also here you can see some labels in bad position ( second canand last rasp can)

please can someone give me the answer since we have few "top" can collectors across the globe.
http://i54.tinypic.com/adye0y.jpg

so put yourself in my position and tell me what and tell me what would you have made
,and yep those cans are for display not for sale.

Juca
02-15-2011, 10:00 PM
Juca your package is on its way to Croatia. Hope that shit gets there. Im nervous it wont go through customs. But everythings drained, and theres 2 holes in the bottom of each can.

The guy looked at me funny because the fuckin balls were rolling around in the box, but i just said they were toys. Hopefully these will look better for that display you posted a few pages back. Cant be having primer in there..

at last they took your package,my friend tried to send me some cans and they hear the ball inside and refused to take the package,he tried every post office in FL and still nothing ^^ ewwwwww i hate glass balls ^^ i will send you one can next week OG empty one not drilled,and you will get free HDD magnet undet the can :lol: Thanks cuz you shipped em :) all we can do is to hope :) btw let me know when your envelove come and tell me how you like sketch that i made for you.

Juca
02-15-2011, 10:12 PM
btw can you bring spray can in aeroplane,it will pass or they will take a can on check point?

OG5BALL
02-15-2011, 10:14 PM
no doubt will do man. sometimes we need to share the wealth.

OG5BALL
02-15-2011, 10:15 PM
btw can you bring spray can in aeroplane,it will pass or they will take a can on check point?

no way in hell you can bring a can on board.

Juca
02-15-2011, 10:21 PM
no way in hell you can bring a can on board.

you mean i cant? btw can i put it in cargo space?

xtent
02-15-2011, 10:27 PM
I still need that Ramona Red, I would have not passed that up, but I don't pass up any cans I come across.

Style - If your spot has that and others you don't want to pick up, I'm sure I can take them off your hands

Juca
02-15-2011, 10:38 PM
Style - If your spot has that and others you don't want to pick up, I'm sure I can take them off your hands

:lol:

Juca
02-15-2011, 10:45 PM
can someone post a pic of Peacock Blue krylon?

xtent
02-15-2011, 10:52 PM
:lol:


Not sure what is wrong with my post, I am saying I will purchase them off of him

OG5BALL
02-15-2011, 10:54 PM
this afternoons finds

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01042-20110215-1454.jpg

Juca
02-15-2011, 11:01 PM
Not sure what is wrong with my post, I am saying I will purchase them off of him

all right man,now even i dont know why i put that smile on your post... btw you just started to collect em or you have collection? if you have post some flicks they are always welcome!

Juca
02-15-2011, 11:03 PM
this afternoons finds

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01042-20110215-1454.jpg

eww that label on cali is killed ^^,dope primer,OG have you ever tried fluids for rust removing? i will try it,pretty sure that it will remove the rust on the can rings.

HAL
02-15-2011, 11:03 PM
since i have few bad labels,my question is "what to do,to keep the labels like this or to replace em with printed labels,or to take new labels with same code,color name and bar code,but they are without "RAL code" and they looks different,also if i dont like the place where labels are (on some cans they are on good place on the top,on other cans they are on bad place,so to keep it like that or to work on them?"

also here you can see 2 labels where you cant see letters,they are blank,what to do with them?

also here you can see some labels in bad position ( second canand last rasp can)

please can someone give me the answer since we have few "top" can collectors across the globe.

so put yourself in my position and tell me what and tell me what would you have made
,and yep those cans are for display not for sale.

Personally, I keep the can exactly the way I found it when I dug it up. If there's a price tag, it stays on. If the stickers are crooked, that's fine with me. Back in the 90's it was a lot easier to be selective and try to dig up another can with the label "just so", but not any more. I really wouldn't worry about it much. We should keep in mind that cans were never intended for collecting, so inconsistencies from the factory shouldn't be looked down upon. I certainly wouldn't try to mess with it. You're more than likely going to damage the can or sticker and wish you'd left it alone. You may get lucky and find another down the road that has nice, straight stickers, but until then I think it's perfectly fine and doesn't "devalue" the can in my eyes.

It kind of reminds me of the early/mid 90's Sherwin Krylons, where I'd tend to keep the one that had the sticker placed towards the front of the can. Haha. I'd be happy to find one in any condition at a hardware store these days.

Juca
02-15-2011, 11:09 PM
Personally, I keep the can exactly the way I found it when I dug it up. If there's a price tag, it stays on. If the stickers are crooked, that's fine with me. Back in the 90's it was a lot easier to be selective and try to dig up another can with the label "just so", but not any more. I really wouldn't worry about it much. We should keep in mind that cans were never intended for collecting, so inconsistencies from the factory shouldn't be looked down upon. I certainly wouldn't try to mess with it. You're more than likely going to damage the can or sticker and wish you'd left it alone. You may get lucky and find another down the road that has nice, straight stickers, but until then I think it's perfectly fine and doesn't "devalue" the can in my eyes.

It kind of reminds me of the early/mid 90's Sherwin Krylons, where I'd tend to keep the one that had the sticker placed towards the front of the can. Haha. I'd be happy to find one in any condition at a hardware store these days.

haha,sticker on the front = full goal ^^

"You're more than likely going to damage the can or sticker and wish you'd left it alone. "

damn agreed 100% on this,i tried to clean one can with some bad graffiti remover and i removed litho label,wish that i never tried it :(

xtent
02-15-2011, 11:11 PM
Juca - I have very little as far as a collection of older cans, I think I have 4 flat 5balls cans total, pretty basic colors

I need to go to my storage unit soon, there I have cases of older Painters Touch and such

Juca
02-15-2011, 11:15 PM
Juca - I have very little as far as a collection of older cans, I think I have 4 flat 5balls cans total, pretty basic colors

I need to go to my storage unit soon, there I have cases of older Painters Touch and such

bar code labels on flat balls or? how rare is older pt now and they were female valve before right?

Juca
02-15-2011, 11:24 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEF0A1mQ_Cc&feature=related

look which cans kid use to test the cap lol

HAL
02-15-2011, 11:26 PM
http://www.elimin8.net/cpr/4qMOw_Krylon-25moreWhite.jpghttp://www.elimin8.net/cpr/67mJ6_Rusto-23moreBlack.jpg

http://www.elimin8.net/cpr/CRYEV_Rusto-ChestnutBrown.jpg
I don't think I've ever seen Chestnut Brown in this late 70's/early 80's can style.

http://www.elimin8.net/cpr/id4VH_WalMart-GoldenYellow.jpg
One of my personal favorites, because i used to use this stuff so much when i first started. $1.39 a can. Golden Yellow.

Juca
02-15-2011, 11:39 PM
bonus rusto/krylon,they are sick

jib25
02-15-2011, 11:45 PM
^Nice flicks Hal. I really dig the Wallmart cans too.

HAL
02-16-2011, 12:10 AM
I need to clean them up a bit. Both have a little schmutz on them.

Frate_Raper
02-16-2011, 01:00 AM
I got tall boys of chestnut brown, no 12oz......i didn't know you guys had CC. Most of early stuff was all CC.

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q96/humptardske/P2080149.jpg

http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q96/humptardske/P2130193.jpg


a gift, and going through all of my stuff. I should have the whole pt line with that graphic

HAL
02-16-2011, 01:26 AM
Loving the Canadian style cans. I believe I picked up one of those Violets, right in downtown Montreal no less. The first place i saw Krylon Equestrian Brown, too.

HAL
02-16-2011, 01:28 AM
ps, what is that can of hunter green-like paint on the bottom left shelf of the PT lineup photo? Looks like it has a weird, small overcap.

EPMDfan
02-16-2011, 01:33 AM
http://www.elimin8.net/cpr/CRYEV_Rusto-ChestnutBrown.jpg
I don't think I've ever seen Chestnut Brown in this late 70's/early 80's can style.



That's a 78 can in 79 they switched the name to Leather Brown and changed the color number as well. They actually made all the old colors til 1978. Here is a 78 Cascade I had handy to take a pic of. I had a case of these at one point but I am down to 5-6 of them now. I probably have around 10 or so of the 78 colors... Off the top of my head Cascade, Fed Green, Fire Hydrant for sure...

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v298/metalmaned/Cans/78Cascade.jpg

EPMDfan
02-16-2011, 01:35 AM
ps, what is that can of hunter green-like paint on the bottom left shelf of the PT lineup photo? Looks like it has a weird, small overcap.

It looks like that cause the pic was taken with a fisheye lens... ;)

slyle
02-16-2011, 03:25 AM
Personally, I keep the can exactly the way I found it when I dug it up. If there's a price tag, it stays on. If the stickers are crooked, that's fine with me. Back in the 90's it was a lot easier to be selective and try to dig up another can with the label "just so", but not any more. I really wouldn't worry about it much. We should keep in mind that cans were never intended for collecting, so inconsistencies from the factory shouldn't be looked down upon. I certainly wouldn't try to mess with it. You're more than likely going to damage the can or sticker and wish you'd left it alone. You may get lucky and find another down the road that has nice, straight stickers, but until then I think it's perfectly fine and doesn't "devalue" the can in my eyes.

It kind of reminds me of the early/mid 90's Sherwin Krylons, where I'd tend to keep the one that had the sticker placed towards the front of the can. Haha. I'd be happy to find one in any condition at a hardware store these days.

It was you who wanted the labels all facing foward....I knew someone out there was ocd, just did not know it was you.....personally I always thought the labels should be on the back.

varivaldi
02-16-2011, 04:17 AM
you mean i cant? btw can i put it in cargo space?

I know a kid who last summer was in Europe and bought some Montana etc. he had a bunch leftover and didn't want to leave it so he packed it in with his band's gear (tour t-shirts etc.) and checked it in. Damned if he didn't pull that one off successfully. never would have guessed he'd get away with that. Definitely not in your carry on though.

slyle
02-16-2011, 04:27 AM
No aerosols on carry on. Around 2000 I brought back a couple cans of belton in my checked baggage along with a few other goodies, but that was all pre 9/11....don't think you are allowed to anymore.

According to http://www.tsa.gov/travelers/airtravel/prohibited/permitted-prohibited-items.shtm You can only have non-flamable aerosol paints in your checked bagage....oh and no hand grenades at all....

Frate_Raper
02-16-2011, 04:33 AM
ps, what is that can of hunter green-like paint on the bottom left shelf of the PT lineup photo? Looks like it has a weird, small overcap.


its tremclad...Montreal was always a gem for odd krylon. Equestrian Brown is something i need to pick up. The gift giver just scored a serious serious gift of the gods from one of my cities pioneers, I'm hoping to get a look see and take some of the doubles.

I've stashed a few cans in my bags before, but recently a friend lost his paint, a gift of me....I wrap mine up in my toiletries,so it looks like shaving creme?

vintagespraypaint
02-16-2011, 05:34 AM
Juca, heres a couple of pics of a peacock you asked about....i took these a couple of years ago.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/paint036.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/unforgettable039.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/unforgettable007-1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/unforgettable008-1.jpg

Juca
02-16-2011, 09:54 AM
Juca, heres a couple of pics of a peacock you asked about....i took these a couple of years ago.

http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/paint036.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/unforgettable039.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/unforgettable007-1.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/VINTAGE%20SPRAY%20PAINT/unforgettable008-1.jpg

Thanks man!,sick flick,you are the lucky owner of PC and Pennant blue?:)

slyle
02-16-2011, 02:22 PM
That peacock looks alot lighter than it should in the later pics, on the charts it is a darker blue....pennant blue is a fresh color, almost reminds me of pacific blue but brighter...

CYPRESSPILLZ
02-16-2011, 03:55 PM
Spanish Krylon, copped it at a dollar store

http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/9066/56201030419363725281000.jpg

JerseyViking
02-16-2011, 05:20 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEF0A1mQ_Cc&feature=related

look which cans kid use to test the cap lol

someone please rob this kid

Juca
02-16-2011, 06:29 PM
someone please rob this kid

soon that kid will make a cap test on pennant blue :lol:

JerseyViking
02-16-2011, 06:43 PM
thats so wrong...lmao

Juca
02-16-2011, 09:49 PM
so bored,lets see some flicks,i can bet that OG found some dope cans today,let see em :D

Juca
02-16-2011, 09:53 PM
on this forum we need shit like this

Selling/Trading

Looking for...

Collections and Appraisals

Juca
02-16-2011, 11:20 PM
Please can someone tell me how old is this can,Thanks!!!

http://i51.tinypic.com/ngbviu.jpg

jib25
02-16-2011, 11:30 PM
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/mealism/valdi2.jpg

jib25
02-16-2011, 11:31 PM
^ Strictly for Valdi!

jib25
02-16-2011, 11:34 PM
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/mealism/valdi.jpg

Same as before...

Juca
02-16-2011, 11:36 PM
that little job is adorable ^^

jib25
02-16-2011, 11:50 PM
A few PTs

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/mealism/PT.jpg

jib25
02-16-2011, 11:51 PM
Some of these are re-posts, but since Juca's bored ; )

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/mealism/IMG_2612.jpg

jib25
02-16-2011, 11:53 PM
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/mealism/score.jpg

Previous score. Actually those skinny cans are the Kidstuff colors.

jib25
02-16-2011, 11:55 PM
Oops, these are them:

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/mealism/box.jpg

jib25
02-16-2011, 11:55 PM
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/mealism/pt1.jpg

jib25
02-16-2011, 11:59 PM
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/mealism/IMG_0537.jpg

jib25
02-17-2011, 12:01 AM
http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/mealism/IMG_0720.jpg

jib25
02-17-2011, 12:05 AM
This was from a dig and a Freecycle post from a while back. Can't beat the Indian Spice, but I just cleaned up that Dutch Boy, Fresh Look 'Almond' 83 paper label. It's in really great shape, so as of tonight it's back on the rack instead of the user shit in freezing temps in the garage!

eviltrailer77
02-17-2011, 12:08 AM
I used to rock that derusto like a champ (that safety green.. oooowwwweee!) and I have never seen those little derustos before, hell never knew they existed till now.

jib25
02-17-2011, 12:12 AM
How are the Color Works in the white paper labels?

It's weird, but the label design makes them look like they'd be thicker for some reason. I guess what I'm saying is that this label design makes the product appear to be of a higher standard than the dark, four color design that looks to be more of a discount line.

Rose & Willow... gotta use those as soon as the ice thaws...

SheenOne
02-17-2011, 01:11 AM
found a hella old can of paint in the art supplies room at school its empty but......... im gonna get it

Juca
02-17-2011, 02:03 AM
just watched "escape from alcatraz" ^^ what is that "angel green" krylon,that color is close to jungle?

EPMDfan
02-17-2011, 02:09 AM
^^^ That is a can of Jungle

PonderYourIdentity1
02-17-2011, 02:32 AM
A few PTs

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/mealism/PT.jpg

Nice stash of PT's man.. where the hell did you find that "25% more!" can?! I know that they are old but still... *droool*:huh2:

slyle
02-17-2011, 04:07 AM
Please can someone tell me how old is this can,Thanks!!!

http://i51.tinypic.com/ngbviu.jpg

80's

varivaldi
02-17-2011, 04:44 AM
^ Strictly for Valdi!

That a boy..... ;)

BIGMETALCIRCUS
02-17-2011, 04:56 AM
How are the Color Works in the white paper labels?

It's weird, but the label design makes them look like they'd be thicker for some reason. I guess what I'm saying is that this label design makes the product appear to be of a higher standard than the dark, four color design that looks to be more of a discount line.

Rose & Willow... gotta use those as soon as the ice thaws...

No Racist? Haha...

There was a pink-ish label Color Works can as well. As I recall the white label ones were the Rust protection line? They had a really nice yellow-orange color that was close to school bus yellow.

varivaldi
02-17-2011, 07:26 AM
a couple more excess height cans.


http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x205/graffhed/cans/DSC05341.jpg

varivaldi
02-17-2011, 07:30 AM
So check this out. I stole the pic with the Ames can to point out something that caught my eye. Compare it to the NYBCO Today can. Same graphics as far as the middle portion. Things that make you go hmmmnn.

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x205/graffhed/cans/IMG_07202.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x205/graffhed/cans/RedPrimer2.jpg

Juca
02-17-2011, 12:04 PM
Can someone tell me where is fucking message box on amazon.com????where i read messages that i sent to other member??

imported_joewelcome
02-17-2011, 01:06 PM
yep, valdi, it's funny how many times we've had that same issue. there's no telling how many house brands Nybco made for people, even into the 1990s. and i believe the latest issue Nybcos had SWP addresses on them, thus if SWP/Krylon took them over who knows where those same designs were used.

Nybco cans of the 80s and 90s usually have the same "use for graffiti is against the law" warning on the back and of course the "christmas stock cap"-- green stock caps with red centers. but many if not most department store, supermarket, and small hardware chain spray paints were custom made by Nybco.

....and then there's just the design theft, which tends to show up in the strangest ways. you'd think that only the low-end budget brands did it, and then Rusto came along rather recently with their Industrial Choice line, which is almost ENTIRELY Krylon color names! Yep, Rusto Ultra Flat Black, Rusto Banner Red, Rusto Dusty Pink, Rusto True Blue, and Rusto Sun Yellow. Talk about drawing a line in the sand.

OG5BALL
02-17-2011, 02:56 PM
so bored,lets see some flicks,i can bet that OG found some dope cans today,let see em :D

ill be there this morning.

OG5BALL
02-17-2011, 05:48 PM
Nothin major, just an old pep boys can i thought was cool. Showed the three dorks on it.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01052-20110217-0947.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01053-20110217-0948.jpg

Juca
02-17-2011, 06:15 PM
Nothin major, just an old pep boys can i thought was cool. Showed the three dorks on it.

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01052-20110217-0947.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01053-20110217-0948.jpg

i like that can style :cool:

slyle
02-17-2011, 09:13 PM
Varsity was a private label brand sold by the Pepboys auto parts stores. These cans were always made by Plasti-kote. They also had a budget brand called DeBois with a crazy lil french guy....

OG5BALL
02-17-2011, 11:50 PM
How are the Color Works in the white paper labels?

It's weird, but the label design makes them look like they'd be thicker for some reason. I guess what I'm saying is that this label design makes the product appear to be of a higher standard than the dark, four color design that looks to be more of a discount line.

Rose & Willow... gotta use those as soon as the ice thaws...

Colorworks sucks ass. I used rose and pink on a freight. They both looked like antique white with a dab of red. The colors arent that bold. I put it at the bottom of the scale with NOW spray paint

imported_joewelcome
02-18-2011, 12:26 AM
aren't there a few different colorworks? i think it was initially Illinois Bronze before Krylon made it.

B.FIFTY.2
02-18-2011, 01:00 AM
Found this gem today...

B.FIFTY.2
02-18-2011, 01:04 AM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5136/5454980782_65ba19f7d3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39915986@N05/5454980782/)

B.FIFTY.2
02-18-2011, 01:15 AM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5256/5454980910_015b2544a1.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39915986@N05/5454980910/)

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5219/5454369207_1595034113.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39915986@N05/5454369207/)

LastBoyScout
02-18-2011, 03:20 AM
http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5136/5454980782_65ba19f7d3.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/39915986@N05/5454980782/)

fresh find

infamousscribbler
02-18-2011, 03:56 AM
Recent finds...

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n632/boccideathball/IMG00617.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n632/boccideathball/IMG00620.jpg

http://i1143.photobucket.com/albums/n632/boccideathball/IMG00621.jpg

varivaldi
02-18-2011, 05:27 AM
Pics of the Christmas cap. As bought to you by NYBCO, makers of many cans you've never heard of. Me too for that matter. Enjoy.


http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x205/graffhed/cans/DSC04469.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x205/graffhed/cans/DSC04474.jpg

Juca
02-18-2011, 11:15 AM
Pics of the Christmas cap. As bought to you by NYBCO, makers of many cans you've never heard of. Me too for that matter. Enjoy.


http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x205/graffhed/cans/DSC04469.jpg

http://i181.photobucket.com/albums/x205/graffhed/cans/DSC04474.jpg

valdi,it works like a every stock cap (fuzzy) or it wirks like rusto fat,ny thin or fat? let me know,that cap looks sick!

Juca
02-18-2011, 12:07 PM
is there any old cap from some can that is like ny thin,but THIN,tried ny thin and all i can say they are nice fillin caps,but as "thin" cap they sucks...

imported_joewelcome
02-18-2011, 01:24 PM
juca
that's a stock cap, just the specific color that Nybco used. it's not much different from any stock cap. most old subway writers from NY used stock caps as thin caps, and probably just got very close to the train with the can. the only real old-time thin caps (which is the same as an older NY thin) that i can think of are the Krylon Fixatif cap which are also known as "Fixies" in some places, and the Liquitex/Testors caps. I believe these to all look exactly the same and be equivalent to older NY thins. newer NY thins are not as clean or pencil-diameter as the older ones for some reason.

lanski...
02-18-2011, 01:29 PM
Testors best cap ever

OG5BALL
02-18-2011, 02:59 PM
Testors best cap ever

x2 i used to rack those all the time.

The best fatcap ever made came from can control magazine in the 90s. Bad ass 4 finger fatcap that had a dope circle when you were flaring out your tags.

Juca
02-18-2011, 03:44 PM
x2 i used to rack those all the time.

The best fatcap ever made came from can control magazine in the 90s. Bad ass 4 finger fatcap that had a dope circle when you were flaring out your tags.

new testors caps are same as old one?

OG5BALL
02-18-2011, 04:44 PM
new testors caps are same as old one?

not sure these days, we used to call them phantom caps back then becaue you could flare pretty nicely with them.

Let me ask you a question, are you bored this morning? I just got this mornings finds.

OG5BALL
02-18-2011, 04:50 PM
peep the baby blue, bright yellow and miniature auto primer....

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01056-20110218-0841.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01057-20110218-0842.jpg

jib25
02-18-2011, 05:14 PM
Nice man!

OG5BALL
02-18-2011, 05:51 PM
thanks. All of these are almost full.

I fucked up though...

I wanted to wash the baby blue off for the picture because it was dirty as hell. when i was wiping it my fatass thumb broke a huge hole in the lid. So now i have to use it for canvasses. Sucks balls.

Juca
02-18-2011, 06:18 PM
peep the baby blue, bright yellow and miniature auto primer....

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01056-20110218-0841.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01057-20110218-0842.jpg

i like that yellow krylon,and rusto primer is nice too,btw just put some epoxy glue on your top and fix it...

is that COLOR CHART on that super???? if yes its so sick!!!

OG5BALL
02-18-2011, 08:58 PM
yea man its got a dope chart on the side

slyle
02-18-2011, 09:10 PM
Looking good....the fat caps you talk about, were they called "German" fats but were the size sort of a normal NY fat. I remeber a cap we used to get with wide ridges and sort of a small color on it that had a pretty big spray. Think it was an orange center, I have not seen them in a while....

OG5BALL
02-18-2011, 09:40 PM
heres a full mint green off brand i just got. made by standard brands

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01065-20110218-1337.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01064-20110218-1337.jpg

EPMDfan
02-18-2011, 09:59 PM
Agghhhh standard brands... They "sponsored" MANY a graffiti mission for us back in the late 80s and early 90s, lol when they went out of business the cans were $.50 a can and we went in and cleaned them out of their Krylons. We had cans from that for years!!! The good old days!!

OG5BALL
02-18-2011, 10:08 PM
standard brands was dope.

Juca
02-18-2011, 10:53 PM
yea man its got a dope chart on the side

sick!

Juca
02-18-2011, 10:55 PM
is that label "mint green" on the can or its painted like whole label on that can OG?

OG5BALL
02-18-2011, 11:48 PM
is that label "mint green" on the can or its painted like whole label on that can OG?

its a label on the can

Top gun
02-18-2011, 11:51 PM
heres a full mint green off brand i just got. made by standard brands

http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01065-20110218-1337.jpg
http://i28.photobucket.com/albums/c221/SHOWTIME916/IMG01064-20110218-1337.jpg

Woohah that can is supadupadope!!! When design and packaging were innovative and cool...

drunknucleus
02-19-2011, 12:49 AM
found today
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o263/drunkennucleus361/ece001.jpg
http://i122.photobucket.com/albums/o263/drunkennucleus361/ece002.jpg

OG5BALL
02-19-2011, 01:07 AM
whatsup with that wet look you wanna trade

varivaldi
02-19-2011, 01:20 AM
Shocking pink...great name.

Nice pick-ups today boys.

imported_joewelcome
02-19-2011, 03:14 AM
it could be worse. baby blue is a joy to use, even low-pressure.

also, that Wet Look, especially in that condition, is one HELL of a find!

thanks. All of these are almost full.

I fucked up though...

I wanted to wash the baby blue off for the picture because it was dirty as hell. when i was wiping it my fatass thumb broke a huge hole in the lid. So now i have to use it for canvasses. Sucks balls.

drunknucleus
02-19-2011, 03:27 AM
I just wish it had it's top,
Not interested in trading og.

slyle
02-19-2011, 04:28 AM
I got a top that may not be exact, but would look damn good on there.....I have been seeing some amazing ace hardware cans lately....

I LOVE all the diggin everyone is doing, some great cans are being found and brought out, keep it up.....can't wait for the cold weather to leave so official digging season can begin for me....

slyle
02-19-2011, 04:28 AM
....oh and the Velvet Brown is pretty sweet too...

slyle
02-19-2011, 05:06 AM
Stolen from Spray paint thread....

http://mr-ewokone.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2011/01/paintrack-726x1024.jpg

HAL
02-19-2011, 12:17 PM
juca
that's a stock cap, just the specific color that Nybco used. it's not much different from any stock cap. most old subway writers from NY used stock caps as thin caps, and probably just got very close to the train with the can. the only real old-time thin caps (which is the same as an older NY thin) that i can think of are the Krylon Fixatif cap which are also known as "Fixies" in some places, and the Liquitex/Testors caps. I believe these to all look exactly the same and be equivalent to older NY thins. newer NY thins are not as clean or pencil-diameter as the older ones for some reason.

Don't forget about niagara caps and Jifoam fats. Also the medium tips with the black face and wide ridges on old ScotchGard cans. I also believe you could find Rusto Fats back then, but not sure on what cans. They had plenty of caps to use, even back in the 70's. You just had to rack them all. I have a few of each classic cap and can take pics if anyone is interested.

I beg to differ on the Ny Thin. It's definitely wider than the old ones with the indented face, but much cleaner. I hated those older ones, but if you're into it, the new grey german thins seem to have the same spray quality, and even have a strange indented dot unlike the older style. Too skinny for me. I actually shave down the stem on NYs with a razor to use them with imported brands. My favorite cap hands down.

Top gun
02-19-2011, 12:54 PM
Don't forget about niagara caps and Jifoam fats. Also the medium tips with the black face and wide ridges on old ScotchGard cans. I also believe you could find Rusto Fats back then, but not sure on what cans. They had plenty of caps to use, even back in the 70's. You just had to rack them all. I have a few of each classic cap and can take pics if anyone is interested.

I beg to differ on the Ny Thin. It's definitely wider than the old ones with the indented face, but much cleaner. I hated those older ones, but if you're into it, the new grey german thins seem to have the same spray quality, and even have a strange indented dot unlike the older style. Too skinny for me. I actually shave down the stem on NYs with a razor to use them with imported brands. My favorite cap hands down.

Would love to see some old caps! I'll post some european ones.

HAL
02-19-2011, 12:56 PM
No prob. I'll take some flix tomorrow.

imported_joewelcome
02-19-2011, 01:20 PM
I was only talking about thins. Many people have noted that back then, it was about fat caps and using stocks for thin lines was the norm. I have an old ScotchGard that came with a Rusto orange center.

I don't remember the old NY thins having an indent, they seem to look identical and the actuator face numbers never seemed to correlate to quality at all. I think we've discussed this one before also, but I miss how nicely the old NY's used to mate to Krylon and how it made the paint nice and clean for thin lines. The newer ones seem to flare out just enough that the dot is no longer solid. Surely this is a technique issue, but I think Juca was looking for a clean thin initially. The stock Nybco cap is fine but doesn't exceed any stock cap.


Don't forget about niagara caps and Jifoam fats. Also the medium tips with the black face and wide ridges on old ScotchGard cans. I also believe you could find Rusto Fats back then, but not sure on what cans. They had plenty of caps to use, even back in the 70's. You just had to rack them all. I have a few of each classic cap and can take pics if anyone is interested.

I beg to differ on the Ny Thin. It's definitely wider than the old ones with the indented face, but much cleaner. I hated those older ones, but if you're into it, the new grey german thins seem to have the same spray quality, and even have a strange indented dot unlike the older style. Too skinny for me. I actually shave down the stem on NYs with a razor to use them with imported brands. My favorite cap hands down.

HAL
02-19-2011, 01:30 PM
I don't thin any american brand of paint comes with what we know as a thin cap. I'm guessing it's because of the propensity for it to clog, as opposed to a non-diffused "stock tip". (the paint doesn't have to flow through channels like with any cap that provides clean lines.)

You don't remember back in the early to mid 90's when there was that run of NY Thins that had the strange bevel in the dot? Those were the only ones i remember that sprayed differently. They kinda shot paint out in a super thin, heavy line that was so easy to drip with krylon. Some people loved those caps, but i personally hated them. The thins you'd grab off Fixatif have always sprayed the same in my experience. About an inch wide, and super crisp.

Top gun
02-19-2011, 01:46 PM
Love those scientific-graffiti discussions!

nocomply
02-19-2011, 02:40 PM
I don't thin any american brand of paint comes with what we know as a thin cap. I'm guessing it's because of the propensity for it to clog, as opposed to a non-diffused "stock tip". (the paint doesn't have to flow through channels like with any cap that provides clean lines.)

You don't remember back in the early to mid 90's when there was that run of NY Thins that had the strange bevel in the dot? Those were the only ones i remember that sprayed differently. They kinda shot paint out in a super thin, heavy line that was so easy to drip with krylon. Some people loved those caps, but i personally hated them. The thins you'd grab off Fixatif have always sprayed the same in my experience. About an inch wide, and super crisp.


interesting info....this isn't too relevant, but i used a disinfectant spray at work the other day, and it had NY Thin on it...and it kills polio apparently...i do recall there was an spray adhesive that had rusto fats on it several years ago.

Top gun
02-19-2011, 02:49 PM
I found kind of Rusto fats on some wood-saver spray cans years ago. Brand was called Rustol. Don't know if it's a Rustoleum off-brand...

bananahammock
02-19-2011, 02:49 PM
THE NY THIN(LIQUITEX CAP) was great when it first came out. i always think of dero pieces when i think of how those caps work(ed) almost a square line. many old school ny guys say the thin cap of choice before those liquitex came on the scene was the old krylon stock cap- the black deeply ridgy one.

nocomply
02-19-2011, 02:54 PM
i haven't done any digging lately due to being broke, but i did score three free cans
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/nocomply/ptpms.jpg
full can of spa blue, plastikote satin black, mr. spray brown
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/nocomply/mrspray.jpg
w/ french on one side
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/nocomply/DSCF2722.jpg
1/2 pints, etc
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/nocomply/artcatalog.jpg
scan from an art catalog i found, dated 1976
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/nocomply/ptprimer.jpg
pt tall boy, since others were posted a few pages back
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/nocomply/paint2002.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v305/nocomply/paint2002b.jpg
user paint stash circa '02, ignore the painting in background, note my last can of krylon terra cotta