Old Cans Of Paint, Serious Collectors

[InfraRed]

found this photo on flickr a couple of months ago; knew the guy was in town, so I sent him a message but he didn't get back to me

http://farm7.staticflickr.com/6134/5923119527_e12b4e8ec0_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spikeytreats-ibet/5923119527/)


so I finally meet him while I'm painting a free wall, and I wanted to make a trade or two since I have quite a few sherwin krylons already
he said "I'm trying to save them for when they're worth money" or something

when I do find kids with vintage paint, they think because a few cans sold for a lot on eBay they shouldn't trade with me and that's fucked
(not that I want any of those cans that bad, but this other kid has some 68 baby blue paper labels)

[jausi001]

I love the paintings
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[InfraRed]

This kid wants to trade me his Baby Blue 68 Krylon Paper Label
says he really needs some herb
I don't know if that's a rare can,
and I'm not really jumping on it because I'm accustomed to all my cans being awesome surprises
but if anyone needs this can, get ahold of my asap

[slyle]

Holding cans waiting for values to rise is pretty ridiculous. Thats like all the fools who collected comics and baseball cards in 90's (I being one of them) they were mass produced and marketed to be collectible. Hold onto the paper label 68 baby blues. Hold onto mint SWP flat balls, not missing tops and rusted cans. Those are user cans. If anyone thinks they are gonna get rich off of paint you have another thing coming. They are in it for the wrong reason. Preserve the history of what we do, and make it possible to pass this onto future generations.....

[smizrocks]

Hey guys & gals. This past weekend, I returned from the US's largest coin-op machine and advertising trade show & collector's show in Saint Charles Il. While there, I meet a few sellers who had/claim to have access to that which we all on this forum seek and desire: Vintage spray paint and it's related items.

Upon my introductions, and presentations of my color post cards, and fold out flyers etc., the respective vendors were all shocked to be in the presence of somebody who actually collected "spray paint". Now these same vendors, all related the story of the mountains of spray paint (the same cans depicted on flyers) which they repeatedly threw away in the past, upon sight.

These same "shocked" vendors, had for sale various paint company related clocks, displays and signage as well as other wares on their respective tables as we spoke. But no actual spray paint, which would've been worth more than the items which they dragged across the US to St. Charles.

Thus, in order to stem the perpetual desecration and destruction of the few sought -after cans which remain undiscovered out there, I had to educate these vendors as to their worth in a collectors society.

While attempting to educate each vendor, there first question almost always is, "how much am I willing to pay for each can"? A fairly easy question to side step, by replying, it depends on the color as well as it's condition. You could name a high price for a nonexistent color, in order to entice them to simply start looking for cans. After all, no person is going to troll through and drag home garbage for a few dollars a can. One must wave the proverbial carrot-on-a-stck before these vendors in order to get them to recalibrate their respective hunting/search habits. Once they call with the details of the lode, it is then which one could negotiate a value for the lot.

However, due to recent behavior by some within our community, it is becoming harder to get a lode at "wholesale prices" anymore.

What? You're saying? Let me explain. During the aforementioned conversations last week, while speaking to a group of interested potential can/sources recruits, a few were conducting searches on ebay in my presence for cans being sold. And lo and behold they come across the active auction of my recently acquired as well as SNIPED Ferguson Gray big face! And what did they see? The same year(s) big faces presently sought-after with it currently bidding up to $115.00 with numerous bids and three days LEFT on the USED item auction. What does that tell a prospective seller? They go Hmmm... I just may have something worth more here. Let me, hold back/out. Screw selling it "wholesale" to this guy before me. I'll take my chances on Ebay.

Which brings me to my final point. People, why would you continue to bid up an item with days left on it? Why not simply click "watch this item" and come back and try to snipe it in the final seconds, like most serious buyers do in the first place? Why continue to throw NUMEROUS as well as INFLATED bids, knowing

1. That's not what the final selling price will be.

2. You're only showing the sellers as well other potential sellers that they have "gold" in their hands

3. People conducting searches will see these inflated prices, due to the time left remaining on the auction.

4. Most bidding don't have a realistic chance of winning an auction of a rare can.

5. Sellers/finders only know what they see, not know what color is what or worth more etc.

Hence, those of you who are working with budget constraints (which most email and state so), need to
rethink/visit your bidding practices on Ebay. For, should you come across your own motherlode. Chances are, that perspective seller will be conducting an Ebay search themselves. And once that happens, chances are your opportunity to get it wholesale will evaporate before you. And you'll have yourself to blame.


^^^^^^^^

This is more or less ridiculous. If the vendors had the wherewithal to check "current" can auctions, then I have to believe they have the ability and knowledge to do a completed listings search for the same cans. Of all people you should be giving yourself the same damn advice since your ebay auctions hype the HELL out of the cans you're selling. Why are you giving out advice on how to bid..? Anyone who knows ebay and who sells for a living, be it lamps, auto parts, movies etc, knows about completed listings search possibilities. Therefor, before I get as long winded as you, I have to respectfully ask that you take your own advice before trying to offer it up to the rest of us. I respect your hunting and desire to find cans, but it's not like you're doing it for just historic preservation reasons, part of your angle is obviously money. Why not start your can auctions at .99 cents.? Starting cans at $50, $150 etc does the same type of damage and catches the same attention for non can collectors/sellers as you're mentioning happens when people bid too early. So, I ask not what I can do for you, but rather what you can stop asking of us. My final word, blahgitty blah.

[InfraRed]

I was wondering why he wasn't considering completed listings, too.

I will tell people whatever I can to get them to hold cans. The people I deal with are busy with antique furniture and more widely collected antiques, etc. Even if I tell them the possibilities of selling collectible cans, half of them will still throw them away.
Nobody gives a fuck except for us.

[Fist 666]

at an estate sale today found 4 cans of 1965 derusto sea foam green paper label, full with matching metal caps, no rust.

i'm not a collector, but they seem like these would be an example of a can thats worth hanging on to?

[slyle]

Yes they are, good find...

[slyle]

This weekends score, all from various "Places"....

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7135/7108153377_2f8e98eedc_c.jpg

[HAL]

Nice haul. I love those Scotch-gard caps.

[jib25]

So I guess the Scotch-gard cans must have used both kinds of caps. This is the first Jifoam style cap I've seen on one, the other 4 or 5 I've seen have had the old school "ridge cap" style fat caps. Then again I always check every style of old household cleaner and have a few no name brands that also used the Jifoam as a stock. Such a treat to pop the cap and find one. Those caps are so comfortable. I'm wondering if that was also a major factor over the standard ridge caps for painting large areas. Anyone remember how much those early German gray banana skinnys (early/mid 90s), used to dig into the edges of your index fingers?

[eviltrailer77]

I remember, but the lack of "freeze finger" that you would get from using phantoms made up for it.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Are those jiff foam caps any good? Thin or fat?

[slyle]

Medium I would say. Nice soft spray with decent edges.

[HAL]

I guess a modern equivalent would be a pink or orange dot euro fat. For the 70's and 80's, that was considerably fatter than a stock tip. I can understand why jifoams were highly regarded.

[slyle]

Pink and orange are fatter with a heavier spray I think. You have used these caps Hal haven't you?

[infamousscribbler]

Came across these today...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7179/6975514540_0d7b33f5c3_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spiderdigitsstudio/6975514540/)

[jib25]

^Those probably wouldn't sell too well in the UK, lol.

[jib25]

Bunch of cans posted on Ebay right now:
http://www.ebay.com/sch/jib25/m.html?item=130687737679&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649&_trksid=p4340.l2562

[HAL]

Pink and orange are fatter with a heavier spray I think. You have used these caps Hal haven't you?

It's been a couple years, but yeah. As i remember, they felt similar to one of those older orange dot euro fats, the ones with the wide ridges and the lip at the bottom of the cap. Or those blue dot fats with the wide ridges that came on graffiti remover sprays. I always thought those were a lot like orange or pink dot caps.

[jib25]

I can't keep up with caps one bit. I guess I ought to explore them all, but it's too much hassle to remember them all, and then go looking for them. Rusto or NY fat for fats, and either a yellow universal or the 94 skinny/stock for skinnys. Anyone have any favorable preference to any other specific one that's worth trying. Actually hats off to the Boston thin too for making a great cap for Rustos...

[slyle]

I like grey dots on old valve krylon

[infamousscribbler]

I'm a fan of using the beige dots from the montana gold line for fades.

[HAL]

Just me personally, but i basically stick with NY Fats for fills and those clear yellow german caps for linework. If it's big or solid fill, I might use these all black fatcaps the shop in town sells called Beast Fats. They're basically just huge fats like the Astro Fats or gold ones, and empty a can in under 5 minutes. I discovered that they produce the smoothest fades ever when you're in the fill stage, and can cut over all the mess with your outline.
http://www.graffhead.com/uploaded_images/astrofat2.jpg

There are so many caps now. I've taken to saving one of each new cap i find, because I expect most to fade away over time. It would be a nice little display for a museum, if there ever were a graffiti museum like the Baseball Hall of Fame. We're at a time where the culture is exploding, and so many products are available that all serve the same purpose. I'll guess that 60% of the products available now will be discontinued in 10 years.

I used to use a lot of grey dots with old valve Krylon. Now, with the euro paint, I want a very crisp line, so i stick with those yellow germans. I was on a kick for a while with cutting down the stem on NY Thins, but sometimes they still don't work right. If i could have a NY Thin diffuser with a stem compatible for european valves, that would be ideal. I like a medium width line, like those grey german caps with the blue center, but none of the available euro caps spray clean enough. Beige dots are great, but only work well with Montana Gold and sometimes Molotow. The altitude up here in Denver really screws with caps and spray pressure, so everything sprays like it's been sitting in the sun up here.

[infamousscribbler]

I enjoyed using the old grey german banana caps on old valve krylon, it made for nice flared hands and crisp lines. I've tried the beige caps on damn near every type of can I've painted with and have had it work wonderfully with Montana, Molotow, Ironlak, Fresh Paint and Beat, sometimes I'd have to fidget with em to get em working on Alien though.
The can killer caps do make for big, consistent fades, but I use the beige guys regularly, maybe I just have a weird fade technique.
^That cap you just posted is very aesthetically pleasing, judging by the rounded edges, it looks like a damn comfortable cap to use.

[jib25]

Thanks guys... All good info. Hal you're dead right about how much will fade away over a few years time. I really look at all my cans sometimes and think, well I can't take them with me, and really, I'd love to just sit and chill in a permanent graffiti museum some day, and see the reactions of folks just walking in and freaking out over an insane collection of preserved artifacts of the culture. Even if we all pooled our dup's into a donation. The day will come, I'm certain of that.

[HAL]

That astro fat is the same as a pink dot or any of those other hooded euro tips as far as the outer structure. I think they're pretty comfortable.

Beige dots are great at sea level, but a bit dusty with most brands at +5000ft. The MTN 94 stocks are useless up here.

The only cap i can get to work consistently with Evolve, Ironlak, Fresh Paint etc is a NY Fat. Those yellow thins don't work at all for me.

[infamousscribbler]

Hmm, interesting, guess I never really thought about how varying sea levels effect the way valve systems work with different caps.

[jib25]

That's really interesting HAL.

I pretty much use almost entirely US paint for bulk fills, (being thrifty), and reserving my long time fav - Belton, or now 94 for outlines/detail work. I just went to outline a new piece on Sat and the line from the stock 94s which I've loved in the past was awful, certainly not clean cut at the sides by any means. Now you got me thinking about reverting back to yellow skinnys based on your super flat/sharp work and details. All I'm looking for is a decent line with the minimal amount of cap headaches.

When living in CO back in the late 90s early 00s I remember the grey banana skinnys working ok on the Walmart Fashion Satin line before they killed that. Certain colors were the bomb, and I wish that stuff was still around. Sherwin Krylons I can't remember what worked best. I know for sure the altitude fucked with everything, but on the flip side it worked out tops coming from the UK and being used to a bender being around 8-9 pints rapidly went down to about 3-4 pints! Hey a cheap date!!

[HAL]

I've been sticking with Evolve and Fresh Paint for fills. I think it's fairly cheap and the color range is much broader than Rusto, plus the valve is ok and I can interchange caps. Those rusto adapters spray terrible up here in Denver. Every cap is dusty as hell and the pressure is so high. It's workable in cold weather, but once April rolls around, forget it. The stock tip isn't much different than what i get out of a NY Thin. Rusto colors seem so bland to me now. I must be spoiled by all the fancy colors.

I remember the Fashion Satin cans disappearing in the mid-late 90's on the east coast. I used to really like the Cobalt Blue.

Last time I went to visit family in Connecticut I went out for drinks that first night and hardly got a buzz on 4 beers. It went away after a couple days, unfortunately.

Back in the Rusto/Krylon days I would only use NY Thins and Rusto fats, pretty much. Some grey dots for Krylon when those came out. NY Thins are still my favorite. I prefer MTN 94 and Molotow for outlines, but Clash has grown on me over the past year. It's a bit cheaper and sprays really well. Spia Yellow is really opaque for a yellow, and very bright.

[infamousscribbler]

Got this today, not in the greatest of shape, but for its size and age, the color is still vibrant and it'll make a fine addition to the old collection. (Rusto in pic to give an idea of the size of the poster.)

http://farm6.staticflickr.com/5461/7155168246_23593973fb_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/spiderdigitsstudio/7155168246/)

[HAL]

Wow, i want that chair and those curtains. My wife would absolutely love them.

[slyle]

Due to competition on ebay I have reduced the starting price of many of my auctions on ebay. Many cans with no bids have now been lowered to $6.99 starting bid. If there is anything poeple would like to see up on there let me know....

http://www.ebay.com/sch/slyle133/m.html?hash=item4d00fdf92b&item=330729126187&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&rt=nc&_trksid=p4340.l2562

[InfraRed]

I put up some 1950s Markal Paintstiks in the box on ebay

[Bakardy!]

im looking for a mint kali kolor oxnard orange.. anyone?

[InfraRed]

Anyone have problems shipping spray paint in USPS flat rate boxes?
I've shipped that way a couple of times; no problem, just alerted the postmaster it was aerosol and needed to ship ground.
Today, I went to a different post office with two flat rate boxes full of paint and one regular box full of paint. The employees told me I couldn't ship flat rate priority boxes ground, and I needed to provide ORM-D stickers myself.

[slyle]

From my understanding priority depending on distance has to go air sometimes (hence priority). Aerosol must be shipped ground, and has to be labeled that way. It also has to carry ORM-D sticker. Glad to finally hear it from another postal employee. Shipping cans priority and not labeled can end up getting your cans confiscated by the postal system. I have heard of it happening, but it is a rare case.

You can find orm-d labels online and then either print onto label paper, or just print onto regular paper and tape to boxes. I am told they have to be on all 4 sides of the boxes. I only know of 2-3 sellers that ships that way. I know alot of people ship priority, or in poorly packed boxes. Never a good idea. And after having a can leak, I make sure to try and wrap each can individually just in case. You never know what type of heat they are going to be subject to, and the handling can cause a buildup f pressure.

[bloodycoathangers]

Just sold most of mine... these last few are up on evilbay (http://www.ebay.com/sch/dart165/m.html?item=300713919758&sspagename=STRK%3AMESELX%3AIT&rt=nc&_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649&_trksid=p4340.l2562).

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/dart165/FOr%20Sale/IMG_5000.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/dart165/FOr%20Sale/IMG_5106.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/dart165/FOr%20Sale/IMG_5001.jpg


Anyone know the actual color name of this one? it had it on hte cap, but it peeled off over time...
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v466/dart165/FOr%20Sale/IMG_4998.jpg

[eviltrailer77]

Hunter green

[HAL]

Wow.

[InfraRed]

From my understanding priority depending on distance has to go air sometimes (hence priority). Aerosol must be shipped ground, and has to be labeled that way. It also has to carry ORM-D sticker. Glad to finally hear it from another postal employee. Shipping cans priority and not labeled can end up getting your cans confiscated by the postal system. I have heard of it happening, but it is a rare case.

You can find orm-d labels online and then either print onto label paper, or just print onto regular paper and tape to boxes. I am told they have to be on all 4 sides of the boxes. I only know of 2-3 sellers that ships that way. I know alot of people ship priority, or in poorly packed boxes. Never a good idea. And after having a can leak, I make sure to try and wrap each can individually just in case. You never know what type of heat they are going to be subject to, and the handling can cause a buildup f pressure.

What about volume restrictions? One post office employee told me parcels could not exceed 1 liter of volume in aerosol. That's 33 ounces, about three cans.

[jib25]

@Infra I've never come across this. Interesting. There should be a laminated guide behind the counter with more info on items with restrictions. You can ask to see it, but whether or not your USPS person is helpful all depends. I've sent up to a dozen many times. Red marker 'Surface Mail' and the stickers from behind the counter are all they need.

[InfraRed]

@Infra I've never come across this. Interesting. There should be a laminated guide behind the counter with more info on items with restrictions. You can ask to see it, but whether or not your USPS person is helpful all depends. I've sent up to a dozen many times. Red marker 'Surface Mail' and the stickers from behind the counter are all they need.

Yeah, the laminated guide was what they were looking at when they said no more than a liter.

[vintagespraypaint]

Its been tough getting out lately with the little one, but here is what today brought on, my favorite was the bonbon plum mist.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/photo-1.jpg

[slyle]

If you don't care about the safety yellow send it my way...

[jib25]

Krylon Batter!! Pancake in a can, Mmmm...

Antique Gold Epoxy? If so, I could use it man. Trade or sale, either way, lmk!

[vintagespraypaint]

not paint, but anyone interested email me....some of the ink is full and liquid some is hard and some are empty.
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/photo1-4.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/photo2-3.jpg

[HAL]

That Bonbon 'Namel can is dope. Strange looking can.
Close up shot?

I used to prefer those Sakura SG7 markers over Pilot. The nib was a bit softer and more pliable.

[slyle]

Check out the bearhawk....vintage R/C stuff...NICE

[mike_limestro]

New Additions...

http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7213/7160349329_be54afce5b_n.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/limestro/7160349329/)
untitled (http://www.flickr.com/photos/limestro/7160349329/) by limestro (http://www.flickr.com/people/limestro/), on Flickr

[HAL]

Good old Mr. Spray. I can't speak highly enough about their chrome.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

tried posting a photo, link isn't working I guess. NVM this post!

[mike_limestro]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8145/7430641334_cfd5b09c92.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/limestro/7430641334/)
ColorWorks - Illinois Bronze/Krylon Manufactured (http://www.flickr.com/photos/limestro/7430641334/) by limestro (http://www.flickr.com/people/limestro/), on Flickr

[any2]

I demand OG8ball come back and post flicks...

[Bakardy!]

ive got some color works if anyone is interested....

[HAL]

Nice colors, but didn't spray that well.

[vintagespraypaint]

slow month, ill flick the odd balls later...
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/p1.jpg

[injury]

Yooo can collectors,

I came across a mint condition mauve flatball yesterday. it's in the most beautiful shape ive ever seen a flatball in ... like museum quality.

i am not really a collector and will end up using and/or abusing the can if nothing else. anyone in here want to complete their collection? i'll post a pic if anyone's interested. i'd want to barter the can for some PTx2 black.

[Frate_Raper]

is it canadian or american Injury?

[injury]

mr. raper,

i'm fairly sure it's american - it doesn't have any of the warnings that i see on canadian cans. for a can of that vintage, were those present?

also all print on the can is english. it has the "good housekeeping seal of approval" on it.

[kmartshopper]

http://cactusface.com/flicks/IMG_6817.JPG

http://cactusface.com/flicks/IMG_6815.JPG

[slyle]

For the paint nerds out there....

http://www.finishing.com/131/67.shtml

[vintagespraypaint]

Most recent score...
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/photo2-6.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/photo3-5.jpg
http://i94.photobucket.com/albums/l82/STUNKONE/photo1-7.jpg

[infamousscribbler]

Nice.

[Harvey Wallbanger]

Hot damn! i thought the days of scores like that were basically over...

[slyle]

Thats the second time vintage spray paint scores like that....I think we can thank the good ole california government for this one. When they banned certain chemicals it forced store owners to pull cans from shelves and store them since they could no longer legally sell them. I am sure there is a ton of stuff sitting that people just don't know what to do with....same theory I have for chicago and when they banned the sale of paint. I am sure hoards of cans are just sitting in storage or some old stores basement waiting to be found....

[slyle]

Just finished my 3 day listing spree. Time to make some room as I have allowed to many cans to pile up. I will gladly combine all auctions from the past 3 days. Please hit me up if you have any requests, look for future auctions in the coming weeks.

http://www.ebay.com/sch/slyle133/m.html?item=330836419582&pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item4d076323fe&rt=nc&_trksid=p2047675.l2562

[Bill Nye]

http://i62.photobucket.com/albums/h85/direction_east/Picture4-8.png
found these guys in my new place's basement, all but the hunter green are totally full!

[Gnomeburner]

Looking for jungle green krylon

[Renegade]

collectors,
I recently acquired a can of rustoleum from 1973 and it has the "stops rust" drip letters on the front and the scottsman with the pipe on the front. i am just getting into collecting cans and was just curious on information and value of the can. I heard that it was a limited production can but thats all i know.

[slyle]

3 years and counting, thanks to all that have supported and contributed to cap matches color so far....
Lots of stuff in store this coming year....book is getting ready to be wrapped up....

www.Capmatchescolor.com
www.facebook.com/capmatchescolor

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8093/8439395580_7ca43d2033.jpg

[Hullucination]

I love old paint, it even smells better

[InfraRed]

old, new

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn257/InfraRedOhm/Aerosol%20Cans/vintagecans008.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn257/InfraRedOhm/Aerosol%20Cans/vintagecans007.jpg

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http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn257/InfraRedOhm/Aerosol%20Cans/vintagecans004.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn257/InfraRedOhm/Aerosol%20Cans/vintagecans003.jpg

http://i306.photobucket.com/albums/nn257/InfraRedOhm/Aerosol%20Cans/vintagecans002.jpg

[marwa89]

good work

[marwa89]

thank to every one

[marwa89]

Cool. Yea, maybe i shouldnt of vented like that (شركة تسويق (http://www.nile7.com/services) ). but i felt like people should know to be more careful with certain people. Maybe its because im a rookie and dont know too much about the trading and collecting scene these days. Back when i collected paint in the 90s (for a bit) it was more about fun, and using dope colors on freights and walls. Not necessarily about selling or keeping the paint for money down the line. (Dont get me wrong, i sell my cans im not attatched to, today but back then it wasnt)

Now you have to deal with all sorts of individuals. People that collect, people that sell, people that use the paint, people that are jackasses, and people that are cool. Its crazy.

But i appreciate التسوق الالكتروني (http://www.nile7.com/readings) everybody showing me the way. And telling me the ins and outs of this. I dont want to come off like ive been collecting for years. Enough crying, i cant wait to to see what everybody has for summer.

I decided to still dig every day, but im going to post pictures of my digs once a month as compared to every day. More cans, more suprise, and more of keeping all you guys on the edge!!!! LOL.

Its gonna be a good summer.

I'm sorry man. I read this and was thinking, "damn I bet I know.....". Seems like there's a serious disconnect between older collectors (meaning those who did this years ago) and people who are newer with it. Some people think they can get over on neophyte collectors presuming they don't know anything, and some people also are mostly over paint collecting but still have some stuff and either want too much for what they have, or want cans that are hard to find for basically nothing. Actually those last two characteristics seem to coexist often. And then there's the problem of scumbag graff writers being.... scumbag graff writers. All the more reason why serious paintheads are and should be their own circuit of people. You know enough real collectors at this point OG.

[CYPRESSPILLZ]

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8390/8688876331_0585717d0c_b.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35565276@N06/8688876331/)
KRYLON (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35565276@N06/8688876331/) by GUPS-ONER (http://www.flickr.com/people/35565276@N06/), on Flickr

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KRYLON (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35565276@N06/8688873637/) by GUPS-ONER (http://www.flickr.com/people/35565276@N06/), on Flickr

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KRYLON (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35565276@N06/8689991154/) by GUPS-ONER (http://www.flickr.com/people/35565276@N06/), on Flickr

[CYPRESSPILLZ]

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RUSTO (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35565276@N06/8688875029/) by GUPS-ONER (http://www.flickr.com/people/35565276@N06/), on Flickr

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RUSTO (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35565276@N06/8689993920/) by GUPS-ONER (http://www.flickr.com/people/35565276@N06/), on Flickr

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RUSTO (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35565276@N06/8688874345/) by GUPS-ONER (http://www.flickr.com/people/35565276@N06/), on Flickr

[CYPRESSPILLZ]

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KRYLON (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35565276@N06/8688879729/) by GUPS-ONER (http://www.flickr.com/people/35565276@N06/), on Flickr

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KRYLON (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35565276@N06/8689997248/) by GUPS-ONER (http://www.flickr.com/people/35565276@N06/), on Flickr

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KRYLON (http://www.flickr.com/photos/35565276@N06/8688870439/) by GUPS-ONER (http://www.flickr.com/people/35565276@N06/), on Flickr