Extascy=Dead

[imported_I am Fabio ok]

A friend of mine's sixteen yearold sister just died from taking one pill of extascy. This is why i urge people to wake up to life and live it drug free.

[anvil]

that may not have been ecstacy, it's possible that it was a cheap imitation that fucks with your heart rate...alot of people have died from this shit...
anyway, sorry to hear about your friend's sister...
Peace.

[23578]

yeah i can't stand that shit, that and heroin. i'm not coming here to say i tried it and didn't think it was all that, it's just that these drugs are killing people, well coke too, and i don't know crank, and everyone just acts like they're ok. ever wonder why after you do extacy for a while, you're jaw won't stop clicking when you chew. . .did anyone see mtv's special with that chick with the hole in her brain?

[dosoner]

Originally posted by 23578:
did anyone see mtv's special with that chick with the hole in her brain?

thats called Oliens (sp?) leigons. although im pretty sure that ecstacy wasnt a drug that they caused that, its the dissasosiatives you gotta watch out for.

[dukeofyork]

drugs are bad..
dont do drugs.

[RadeOne]

if you are going to do drugs please make sure you know where your drugs are coming from...educate yourself about what your putting in your body.

[Frate_Raper]

XXX


or not do any of that shit at all

[T.W.F UNABOMBER]

Originally posted by 23578:
ever wonder why after you do extacy for a while, you're jaw won't stop clicking when you chew. . .

i know alot of girls that do xtc. when you do that you NEED to chew something.
crack causes lock jaw too.

[elmer]

ALL drugs affect the same area of your brain, smoking trees and smoking crack do the exact same thing to your head, e is really fucked up, since no one knows what it does to you and it looks and sounds so innocent, mad peoples are doing it, it fucks your brain up, it depletes your seratonine(sp?) levels to absolute shit. also no one knows the long term effects of it, if you want to do drugs, be safe and know what your getting into, and i dont mean with what drug your doing, i mean with drugs in general...

drug free NOT xxx
7 months sober and loving it

[elmer]

ALL drugs affect the same area of your brain, smoking trees and smoking crack do the exact same thing to your head, e is really fucked up, since no one knows what it does to you and it looks and sounds so innocent, mad peoples are doing it, it fucks your brain up, it depletes your seratonine(sp?) levels to absolute shit. also no one knows the long term effects of it, if you want to do drugs, be safe and know what your getting into, and i dont mean with what drug your doing, i mean with drugs in general...

drug free NOT xxx
7 months sober and loving it

[dosoner]

Originally posted by elmer:
ALL drugs affect the same area of your brain, smoking trees and smoking crack do the exact same thing to your head, e is really fucked up, since no one knows what it does to you and it looks and sounds so innocent, mad peoples are doing it, it fucks your brain up, it depletes your seratonine(sp?) levels to absolute shit. also no one knows the long term effects of it, if you want to do drugs, be safe and know what your getting into, and i dont mean with what drug your doing, i mean with drugs in general...

drug free NOT xxx
7 months sober and loving it

im not trying to start any fights or anything, but most drugs dont fuck with the same part of your brain, each diffrent classification dose diffrent things to diffrent parts of your brain, otherwise the high would be the same for everything. www.erowid.org ('http://"http://www.erowid.org"') has lots of good info about e

[elmer]

no offense take bro, but im pretty sure im right, ill double check in any event, the reason you feel different is that that they do different things, but its all the same area... ill find out about my info though

[imported_thymeJean]

just say no ......thats a shame!!!!!

[seeking]

i worked security at raves for two years... roughly every single saturday night i would walk out of the party with some retard over my shoulder who was unconcious. every single instance, without fail, it was due to GHB. im not trying to say E is 'safe', but im saying that i worked honestly, 80-90 parties and watched over 100,000 people take E. never once did any of them die, slip into a coma, or even loose conciousness. does it happen? sure. do people die from eating peanutt butter? frequently. i'll bet more people died last from nitros than E. does that mean you should run out and take it? of course not, but to treat it like dynomite in a gel-cap isnt doing anyone any good. I suspect whatever killed this girl wasnt E. Probably heroin mixed with meth or something. condolences to the family, but its no reason to start a witch hunt....

[dosoner]

Originally posted by elmer:
no offense take bro, but im pretty sure im right, ill double check in any event, the reason you feel different is that that they do different things, but its all the same area... ill find out about my info though

err.. i read PHiKAL and TiHKAL cover to cover, and im pretty familar with the synthesis of mdma, pretty much what ecstacy does is fuck with your serotonin metabolite levels, serotonin is the chemical responsible for that warm, fuzzy comfortable feeling your get when your happy, what exstacy basicly does is cause more of these to be realised, thats what causes the good feeling for others, ect. Thats why some people can feel depressed after the experiance, because theier brain has ran out of of serotonin, and must play catch up to get back to a normal level.


now, dxm, works on a whole diffrenet area of the brain. What it does is block the receving of various nuro recepters, and limiting the sigma activity in your brain. thats what causes a loss of motor skill, independent eye tracking, and the difficulty with walking. these are also the things that make the visuals possible.

there you go, to different parts of the brain. each family of drugs works on diffrent parts of your brain.


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[dosoner]

i can go into much more, full detail if you want.

[dosoner]

oh yea, and you also didnt know what you were talking about when you said no one knows what mdma does to you, there have been tons of tests run on both humans, and animals, with alot of documentation for both.


MDMA doesn't cause parkinson's disease -- MPTP which an entirely
different drug (an opiate) does. MDMA doesn't dry up your
spinal fluid -- thats a completely stupid and silly concept to begin with. The way that researcher's have been *testing* for MDMA damage is to draw a spinal tap. What they are looking for is lower levels of 5-HIAA which might indicate damage to 5-HT neurons. In short they haven't found anything convincing in humans. In animals it takes large doses over consecutive days to produce neurotoxicity (bursting of 5-HT axons, which is reparable). With smaller doses with longer time periods in between, there is no evidence of neurotoxicity. I have ever heard of MDMA producing paranoia or schizophrenic breaks or nything like that -- that is an effect one might expect of classical amphetamines or LSD (respectively). MDMA may actually be useful in treating patients with paranoia or schizoid features. MDMA is a damn safe drug, certainly more safe than alcohol. The only problems would be due to its exaggerating existing heart conditions. And also, as recently happened in England, the stimulant qualities could make a person overextert themselves without knowing it (however, thats really quite rare -- 7 cases is nothing compared with the wreckage due to alcohol).


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[T.W.F UNABOMBER]

tokin tokin tokin keep that chronic smokin.

extacy-please stay away from this drug, it can kill you right away or kill you slowly. it also fucks your body (internaly) just the same as crack & heroin.

people are going to do this drug no matter what, but just be extra carefull what you put in your body.

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excuse me as i kiss the skyyyyyyyyyy......

[23578]

what are the chances that the pill you buy IS MDMA? i heard, well what the fuck do i know, i'm no raver.

[dosoner]

the chances of you buying a pill that is 100% mdma is about as good as graffiti being legal, getting a straight e pill, that is really e, is the most dangerous thing about, i would guess that more people die because they thought there were taking e, but it was really ketamine, or something eles that has a diffrerent dosage than e, making easy to take way to much, because you think its e, when its not.

[seeking]

if you got a pill of K, youd know it wasnt E. most the time E is cut all to hell with heroin and meth... the browner the pill, the more its cut (generaly speaking)... and this coming from someone who sold quite a bit of the shit...

[seeking]

honestly, if your at a party (rave) and you want to know how 'pure' it is... best bet is to just ask some kids who are rolling... while theyre obviously not dr.'s they've learned what good shit is like, vs. what bad shit is like. also, since pills come in waves, they'll know whats been around lately (ie: dont take the apples, look for the butterflies etc) they generally tend to be pretty reliable... (given your options that is)

[imported_yel 2k]

see what i said about seeking being god
yeah drugs are bad dont take em

[23578]

just cause it looks like everyone's falling into giving seek all the love lately. . .learn to use your edit button cheappostoner.

[dosoner]

Originally posted by seeking innocence:
if you got a pill of K, youd know it wasnt E. most the time E is cut all to hell with heroin and meth... the browner the pill, the more its cut (generaly speaking)... and this coming from someone who sold quite a bit of the shit...

thats a pretty good point, i have no idea what ketamine looks like compaired to e, witch i havnt dealt with much either. i guess most people that are more into that shit would know better when it comes to being able to tell what it is from apperance alone. im just a strong belive in "dont fuck with it unless you researched it and know exactly what your taking."

[mister metallix]

no one heard of dance safe? www.dancesafe.org ('http://"http://www.dancesafe.org"') , what these people do is truely humanitarian. If you can, you should by all means volunteer your time for them. I would if i lived in the area they were opporating in, and had legal age..

[Lush]

A guy died here in 98 I believe from an E o.d. that fucked things up royally. I don't feel sad for him because he knew the chances he was taking with the drug. If I died from a drug o.d, I wouldn't want people feeling sorry for me. If they were slipped something sure, but if they took it of their own free will, that's their decision. He fucked everything up (venue wise).

Every time I ever did it I made sure I asked the other kids who were dosing if it was good. I mean you can buy an e-z test if you wanted to be really safe but friends are sometimes just as reliable. coming down off that shit sucks. And as for reading up on it, it's a good idea but you know the majority of kids aren't going to. we have a group called p.i.p.e here which hands out info and such.

[elmer]

Originally posted by dosoner:
oh yea, and you also didnt know what you were talking about when you said no one knows what mdma does to you, there have been tons of tests run on both humans, and animals, with alot of documentation for both.
[This message has been edited by dosoner (edited 02-04-2001).]

ok, ive been schooled, in any event what i was reffering to when i said that was that alot of people who take it dont know what it does, and i suppose that true with all drugs but none the less.... also, maybe i just have a predisposition to drugs (im in rehab and have witnessed too many of my close friends lives be ruined by drugs, and i was really close to being in the same boat as them) whatever, i told what i have been told, if i was wrong, so be it, but the bottom line is, you can talk all you want about the horrible things drugs dont do to you, but all too often i see them glorified, they fuck you up, drugs can lead nowhere good, i am certain of that, but hey, its your life

[RadeOne]

i remeber the wafers we used to get were 60% china white and 40 percent e...good shit cause it was all pure except sometimes the h made you throw up, but when your throwing up high on heroin its almost enjoyable...some shit happened to my friends brother though hes wheelchair bound because he took what he thought was e but it was not, so the key is
KNOW EXACTLY WHAT YOU ARE PUTTING IN YOUR BODY>>>>if some one tells you its e and you eat it your putting your life in their hands...on a more morbid note...we heard about a girl who was all kinds of high at a rave and these guys came up and asked her if she wanted to try the fresh new designer drug, told her it had to be injected..so she said ok cause she was crazy fucked up...the ended up sticking her with a hiv infected needle and slipped a note in her pocket that said welcome to the world of aids...talk about a harsh comedown...
be carefull with who you trust.. people are fucked up

[elmer]

Originally posted by dosoner:
oh yea, and you also didnt know what you were talking about when you said no one knows what mdma does to you, there have been tons of tests run on both humans, and animals, with alot of documentation for both.
[This message has been edited by dosoner (edited 02-04-2001).]

ok, ive been schooled, in any event what i was reffering to when i said that was that alot of people who take it dont know what it does, and i suppose that true with all drugs but none the less.... also, maybe i just have a predisposition to drugs (im in rehab and have witnessed too many of my close friends lives be ruined by drugs, and i was really close to being in the same boat as them) whatever, i told what i have been told, if i was wrong, so be it, but the bottom line is, you can talk all you want about the horrible things drugs dont do to you, but all too often i see them glorified, they fuck you up, drugs can lead nowhere good, i am certain of that, but hey, its your life

[Lush]

Originally posted by RadeOne:
they ended up sticking her with a hiv infected needle and slipped a note in her pocket that said welcome to the world of aids...talk about a harsh comedown...
be carefull with who you trust.. people are fucked up


Alright, talking about urban legends, do you know how many times that ones gone around the scene? People said it was happening in Vancouver, and toronto and god knows how many cities in the states and the UK. If it were actually true you know it would be all up in the headlines like MAD! Think before you believe everything people tell you. Talk about gullible.

[RadeOne]

but my friends friend knew the girl...i dont doubt it....
people have bombed shit
attacked subways with nerve gas
gone on mass murder rampages
what makes you doubt this legend

[VeganDraftDodgerY3K]

Originally posted by elmer:
ALL drugs affect the same area of your brain, smoking trees and smoking crack do the exact same thing to your head, e is really fucked up, since no one knows what it does to you and it looks and sounds so innocent, mad peoples are doing it, it fucks your brain up, it depletes your seratonine(sp?) levels to absolute shit. also no one knows the long term effects of it, if you want to do drugs, be safe and know what your getting into, and i dont mean with what drug your doing, i mean with drugs in general...

drug free NOT xxx
7 months sober and loving it

"you are a liar"
-mike shuman

[Frate_Raper]

Yo one time when i was 16 with some friends and this cracked out fuck started to like trip out rubbing mikes dick saying he'd suck it for 15 bucks cause he need more shit.....Mike flipped beat this dood to a pulp and was screaming shit the whole time about junkies making him sick.......mikes was crazie like that....we weren't even sXe either i jsut hate silly fucked up people.

[elmer]

Originally posted by VeganDraftDodgerY3K:
"you are a liar"
-mike shuman

care to elaborate? im just putting in my 2 cents, if its wrong its wrong, im not omniscient, like i said before im repeating what i was told and what i held to be true, if that info is wrong, ok, and if everyone wants to keep ragging on me for it, well then, a big fuck you

[imported_jungle cat]

the way to tell that it is pure mdma is find the gel caps this is your safest bet.. any pill form is not pure mdma.. becuase mdma cannot stay together with out some type of "glue".. the "glue" bieng another drug. i must admit.. some pills that arent pure mdma are good, but, stick to the gel caps.. you might find gel caps with other drugs in them, but, if you are going to do e. and want the safest path.. do the gel caps, the pill form for sure has more of another drug than mdma. if you need me to elaborate, just ask about what part. and i will.

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earth people, i was born on jupiter.

[Big D]

hey fabio was it the girl here in colorado? do you know? Cause some shit like that just happened here.

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Shoot informants not drugs

[seeking]

Originally posted by jungle cat:
the way to tell that it is pure mdma is find the gel caps this is your safest bet.. any pill form is not pure mdma.. becuase mdma cannot stay together with out some type of "glue".. the "glue" bieng another drug. i must admit.. some pills that arent pure mdma are good, but, stick to the gel caps.. you might find gel caps with other drugs in them, but, if you are going to do e. and want the safest path.. do the gel caps, the pill form for sure has more of another drug than mdma. if you need me to elaborate, just ask about what part. and i will.




i'd like you to elaborate on why you'd be lying about such things. gel caps are usually cut the hardest cause its so easy. i know mad cats that would get a 500 gel caps, open em all up, cut it even harder, then put em back together and make 600 pills... sayign that mdma wont 'stick' together is a crock of shit. it'll stick just as well as heroin...infact, any sort of organic based agent would work better, and be cheaper than heroin. im not professing to be some lab rat whos making the shit in my basement, but i know a thing or two about a thing or two and i know this is nonsense...

[imported_thegayrapper]

I DONT HAVE ANY FUCKIN SYMPATHY FOR PEOPLE WHO DIE FROM USING DRUGS THE WAY I SEE IT IS USING DRUGS IS A SIGN OF WEEKNES AND IF YOU THAT GODDAMN STUPID YOUR A WASTE TO BEGIN WITH

[MASk!]

except for weed right batty/fassy hole?

[Lush]

Originally posted by RadeOne:
but my friends friend knew the girl...i dont doubt it....

because your friends friend knew the girl?
hahaha it's a legend. you're either really dumb or you're playing with me and seeing if I'll bite.

when I see it in the news or a news archive I'll believe it. If you can find something concrete that proves people are doing this then I'll believe it. Show me anything to prove it and I'll believe you. untill then it's still an urban legend.

[antik]

i really wish people would educate themselves as much as they can before buying into all the hype and lies about what any certain drug can or cannot do to an individual. it would solve nearly all of the problems that drugs have created and will continue to create.

ive been involved in a scene for 8 years where extacy is prominent and a part of regular gatherings the same way alcohol and marijuana is for most. no one has died from extacy. in fact there are only 3 deaths that are 100% proven to be extacy related, those being due to dehydration not from the drug itself.

extacy used to be given to married couples in marriage counseling in several parts of the world until the united states made it a class 1 controlled substance. extacy, like any other drug, does have its downfalls and drawbacks. but, the only drug thats "better" for you overall is marijuana. the prblem is that many times something is sold as extacy that is most definitely NOT extacy, which is why it would be grand if the government were to declassify it and allow for testing of the drug to be done. therein lies the answer to the problem.

im not condoning use, but before you buy into the hype and lies... educate yourself.

[Harpo Marx]

Drugs suck...Stay clean, Frankenstein have fun with your new friends...

[dosoner]

Originally posted by antik:



but before you buy into the hype and lies... educate yourself.


word, thats what im saying

[imported_jungle cat]

hm.. well.. from where im at.. i knew a guy that used to make the shit.. and he told me that it doesnt stick as good.. maybe he was talking about like.. not as good but it still stuck.. that was the impression i got.. and .. just because you know people that have fucked with the gel caps.. majority is pure.. or closer to pure then most pills.

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dont elect politicians... kill them.

[SECOND]

i heard this somewhere so i dont know if its exactly true but when you take shit like e for the first time it imediatley screws up your genes. if this is true in a few years well have a whole new generation of crack babies only alot more of em im sure. nothin but 40oz and weed for me. i know alcohol causes alot more deaths than e might but as long as you aint stupid about it you should be cool. when you take e and shit you dont know what the fuck is gonna happen. fuck that

[Are2]

Originally posted by Lush:
because your friends friend knew the girl?
hahaha it's a legend. you're either really dumb or you're playing with me and seeing if I'll bite.

when I see it in the news or a news archive I'll believe it. If you can find something concrete that proves people are doing this then I'll believe it. Show me anything to prove it and I'll believe you. untill then it's still an urban legend.

how naive are you lush? i know of several cases where aids infected people went about rying to infect everyone they could! one of these people was documented in a large article in newsweek..an infected man from nyc went to a small town and infected about 5 young girls..
i haven't read about what rade1 spoke of, but get real, people with aids have intentionaly infected people..

[seeking]

are2, rade was talking about the passed otu girl that gets injected with a cool new 'drug' then wakes up to find a note in her pocket that says 'welcome to the world of aids' ive heard this shit for years. do people intentionaly infect others? of course... is this particular story bullshit? yeah... even if its happend like this a couple times, the story is so exagerated now that 99% of the time its bullshit...

[footsoldier]

i think we may be from the same area because a 16 year old girl just died by me from e (or what was supposed to be e)....today in my health class the teacher had a exstacy testing kit order form...it has like 50 different types of e on a few pages and tells you what effects you dropping this liquid they give you will have on it if its safe....i didnt read to much about it or anything, anyone else know anythign about this?

[jades_blue]

Ok..
it's sad to hear stories like these. It's also sad when alot of people are uninformed and our 'handing' out the wrong information... educate yourselves. If you don't know what you're taking, don't take it. I'm not going to say it's wrong that you do it nor and I going to say that it is right. I mean, who are we to tell anyone how to live their lives? It's their own decision. But there are testing kits out there to let you know if you have a 'bad' pill believe it or not. (Some people even took a 'bad' pill after finding out that it wasn't X... ) You can find these through dancesafe & other places online. Inform yourself of what is out there and what they are capable of doing to your body. Alot of times many 'newbies' get out of hand and start mixing drugs.. this leads to OD.. taking too much of any drug (even X) leads to an OD. Alcohol and ANY drug.. can lead to an OD. Mixing your medication with any drug will lead to an OD. Even if you physical/mental problems it can lead to an OD.. (even if you take a little bit.)

X affects your emotions greatly. It doesn't take long for this to happen either. Dosoner did an excellent job in describing what it does to you. Except you know what? Your serotonin level never gets back to what it once was. The more you take it.. the farther away you'll be from having 'true happiness'. How do I know this? After having taken' X for many weekends, I'm feeling the repercussions now.. I only wish that I had been smarter about my use even though I was fully aware of what it could do to me.

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"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned,
Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned."
-me love marcio boy-

[jades_blue]

By the way.. that is an urban legend.. I first heard it in '94...

That isn't to say that people aren't going around trying to infect as many people as they can with other methods.

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"Heaven has no rage like love to hatred turned,
Nor hell a fury like a woman scorned."
-me love marcio boy-

[Harpo Marx]

Ecstacy sucks, so do all other drugs. Oh yeah, it's spelled E-C-S-T-A-C-Y

[a n t i h e r o]

cept for good ol marijuana

[RadeOne]

what was the last line of my last response...

"why not belive this legend"

if you think about it....raves are the perfect place to do such a thing....its a legend, yeah,,,,,but i dont doubt it, do you think the person would really go to the papers with such a thing? if you got hiv...the last thing you want is publicity about it....i have been to a lot of partys and have seen some evil shit...

[RadeOne]

the line was

why doubt this legend

[dosoner]

Originally posted by jades_blue:
Ok..


Dosoner did an excellent job in describing what it does to you. Except you know what? Your serotonin level never gets back to what it once was. The more you take it.. the farther away you'll be from having 'true happiness'.



my bad, i wasnt aware that the never got back up to their original intended levels.


just in case anyone got the worng idea, i wasnt trying to say that this shit is safe, and its alright to do, i was just sayin what i know about it.

i paid attention in chemistry.

[imported_curious george]

a lot of gals that roll ex suck dick and fuck you fo sho.

[kOmega]

most drugs are dangerous juss dont abuse them..extacy is a good drug..but once you start abusing it it becoms stupid..

[imported_AlphaMega]

Ill stick to bud Thanks!

[Zack Morris]

the stuff seeking said about being able to ask people that are rolling is good info but also the rave scene is blowing up at the moment. I was at the park the other day readong a book and what looked like the cast from an abercrombie and fitch commercial were talking abou going to "the rave" this weekend and how bad they wanted to try X. I know a few kids who go to parties and I would much rather one of thier friends or one of them take some of the party drugs because they know so much more about it. The abercrombie and fitch cast on the other hand more than likely have no clue about what the drugs will do to thier bodies or what drugs are good and what drugs are bad. All they know is that they can go and dance with glow sticks. These are the kids I would expect to overdose, get sold fake pills, buy the wrong pills or anything of that matter.

I wish I was still Face Me Face Death

[TOY]

my friends started doing extasy and just turn into e-tards fo a while. then one decided just to drink cuz its cheaper and the other went to coke cuz of this dumb bitch that got him started. theyre both done this drugs now but. just dont do drugs, theyre pointless.

[imported_suburbian bum]

One chick near where i live took some E, and it was pure shit. She died about 6 days later after being in a coma for a while.
The reson she died: She drank too much water and it caused some shit in her brain.
This is no lie, you can check the papers. So dont drink too much water when you do E, you can overdose on water guys.

[willy!wonka]

actually...i feel that if anyone backs that drug up sayin shit like..its not bad..you dont know(after i've taken that shit before)..hmmmmmm...any way of backing that drug up is just a slave to it...i dont know..i guess it could go with alot of things...but that shit kills...and there is too much EEEEvil behind that curtain you throw your act on...ever get the feeling your just a puppet?look at me... i'm MR. PERSONALITY!fake ass.....just shut up and go to the cuddle puddles...

[Tofu]

Originally posted by seeking innocence:
...i'll bet more people died last from nitros than E. does that mean you should run out and take it? of course not, but to treat it like dynomite in a gel-cap isnt doing anyone any good. I suspect whatever killed this girl wasnt E. Probably heroin mixed with meth or something. condolences to the family, but its no reason to start a witch hunt....

Why NOT treat it like dynamite in a gel-cap?! Is THAT hurting anyone?! Of course not!!!

Also, nobody's trying to start a witch-hunt; this guy's just telling everyone to be careful. He's not looking for a witch to hang (so to speak)...

[imported_SaEkOnCe]

for real fuck all those drugs..just kick back....relax..smoke a spliff..drink some beers and chill

[imported_Raels]

Originally posted by seeking innocence:
do people die from eating peanutt butter? frequently.


Seeking, you bring up a very disheartening subject with this statement, although it is one that active patrons of 12oz should pay close attention to.

In December of 1999, a rare and deadly affliction known as "Mulkinson's Disease" (although it is not actually a disease, but an infection) struck the sleepy town of Irving, Texas, near Dallas. It started when an older woman had left a jar of peanut butter out on her kitchen counter with the lid loosely fastened. The jar was forgotten for a few days, and later the women finally reopened the container and prepared a peanut butter and jelly sandwich as a lunch meal for her visiting grandson. Hours later, the young boy became terribley sick and symptoms of vomiting, nausea, and paranoia set in only to be followed by a swift paralysis of the boy's vocal chords, rendering him speechless.

Being that the peanut butter had been consumed earlier in the day, the baffled grandmother did not make the connection between the boy's sickness and the now stale jar of spread. Immediately, she rushed him to the emergency room, where doctors discovered a microscopic living organism developing in his esophagus, and eating away at the child's protective layer of mucus, causing him intense discomfort and bacterial infection. Days later his breathing became affected by the swelling of his uvula and tragically, the young boy suffocated.

When the autopsy was performed, it was determined that the previously eaten peanut butter had been host to a new strain of bacterial organism which manifests itself in room temperature, peanut oil-based foods. Once the bacteria is ingested into a larger organism, it reproduces and populates the new host until it's "satisfied", and the new host dies.

I would like this to serve as a warning to everyone out there; peanut butter can be deadly. Seal your lids properly, and carefully inspect the inside of a jar before eating, the bacteria will fequently emit a strong, onion-like odor which is easily detectable, so this is completely preventable folks! Lets work together on this and stop "Mulkinson's Disease" before it really starts!



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[BoB Hope ONER]

..hey is this some joke..

its not funny to name diseases after me.

everyone used to make fun of me in grade school for my last name..

milkysack..

its not funny

please edit your above post.

you name dropper.

[bombingthesystem]

Originally posted by seeking innocence:
i worked security at raves for two years... roughly every single saturday night i would walk out of the party with some retard over my shoulder who was unconcious. every single instance, without fail, it was due to GHB. im not trying to say E is 'safe', but im saying that i worked honestly, 80-90 parties and watched over 100,000 people take E. never once did any of them die, slip into a coma, or even loose conciousness. does it happen? sure. do people die from eating peanutt butter? frequently. i'll bet more people died last from nitros than E. does that mean you should run out and take it? of course not, but to treat it like dynomite in a gel-cap isnt doing anyone any good. I suspect whatever killed this girl wasnt E. Probably heroin mixed with meth or something. condolences to the family, but its no reason to start a witch hunt....

your a fuking raver you faggot

[AeRoS0ul]

Originally posted by antik:

im not condoning use, but before you buy into the hype and lies... educate yourself.


Im Very Much in agreement !!! www.dancesafe.org ('http://"http://www.dancesafe.org"') was a good site mentioned earilier and www.lycaeum.org ('http://"http://www.lycaeum.org"') is a great site too, lotsa books and press releaces written by actual doctors are there.

[imported_inkjunkie34]

i've taken ex on many occasions... i never had any health problems from it...but it still has taken its toll, i'm fucked up now, i dont know if its from paint fumes, alcohol, or e but still that shit has fucked with my balance, and thought process

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jus me and you muthafucka jus me and you...i'll put trade marks around your fuckin eye

[imported_Raels]

Originally posted by BoB Hope ONER:
..hey is this some joke..

its not funny to name diseases after me.

everyone used to make fun of me in grade school for my last name..

milkysack..

its not funny

please edit your above post.

you name dropper.

My sincere apologies, I was completely unaware of your last name, or the grade school torment you received for it. The Mulkinson title originates from a Scottish scientist who first categorized the particular strain of bacteria mentioned above. So actually, you might even feel proud to share a last name with such a brilliant thinker. Besides, I bet nowadays half of those grade school chumps are shoveling dirt for 4 bucks an hour anyway.

[T.T Boy]

i know if you get pure mdma, it will be ususally in a powder form, or in a gel cap, and it will have a distinct smell of black licorice and fish sticks (you will know this smell its very strong) this is he pureist and safest form of e.

[imported_JinkZ aNd BrainZ]

i use to be a 'e' freak. there wasnt a week that went by that by that i didnt roll at least twice. but i was taking pure 'e'. see most people dont realize that 'e' is just mdma, an old anti- depresant from the 70'2 and early 80's. thats the shit i was poppin. then i moved to va and the shit here was all hit up with heroin and coke in it and like numerous other drugs. and thats pretty much all 'e' is now-a-days. mdma with heroin and coke. so she could have very well taken 'e'. or at least what it is now a days. i can say that shit is no good i was hooked on it even in its pure form. if three days went by without it i would get cold sweats and teh shakes. i've been sober for like 2 years now and that shit still has an effect on my brain. im not trying to be like asshole straught edge kids are and force issues on anyone just givin my story on the situation. if ur gonna do it just be safe u never know whats in it now a days.


jinks kra...

[imported_theFUME]

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yah fuck that shit

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[imported_CaNHaPpY]

RIP to your sister's friend...

I've been down roads that I don't care to share, but the point is drugs fuck people up! I'm still trying to pick up my life and it's fucking hard... some people are fine and just leave them alone after awhile, but alot don't... myself included. Why take the chance of fucking up your whole life, or worse yet dying for a cheap one night thrill? This might sound contradictory coming from a writer but at least you can remember all the fun you had in the yards or streets... there's no fun in not being able to get away from something.

[dosoner]

Originally posted by suburbian bum:
One chick near where i live took some E, and it was pure shit. She died about 6 days later after being in a coma for a while.
The reson she died: She drank too much water and it caused some shit in her brain.
This is no lie, you can check the papers. So dont drink too much water when you do E, you can overdose on water guys.

well then dont blame the e for killing her, she killed herself by drinkin too much water. what happenes, is when you over hydrate yourself, the salts, and other minerals in your blood get dissolved, and if you continue to drink, it will basic fuck up your chemical balance to the point that your brain shuts down. THIS IS ONE OF THE BIGGEST REASONS PEOPLE DIE WHEN THEY TAKE ECSTACY.

on a side note, if you drink like a gallon of water in an hour, you will feel almost drunk like, its a bit strage.

iv experianced this problem, witch is acully called hyponatremia (literally "low salt") also called "water intoxication". its really not fun, while you will feel fucked up,you are also bloated, piss often, and in general feel kinda sick, im sure im not the only one on here thats experienced this, however, i belive that i have been a little too close to death beacause of this.

The dangers of drinking water obsessively while high are real. If you're drinking a lot of water, in any context, mixing in some salty snacks or drinking sport drinks will keep your salt and electrolyte levels healthier and can prevent hyponatremia. People on E very often do not want to eat anything, so salty snacks tend to be a ineffective option. While some people find these sugary/salty drinks are unappealing, others find that they quench the thirst better than water...and they can definitely help prevent both hyperthermia and hyponatremia


if your going to put somthing in your body, besides food or water, you should read up on both the positive and negitve side effects, and know just exactly what your in for, and what you should do incase shit goes bad. iv never even seen excstacy, let alone thought about doing it, and i consider myself knowageable on the shit

[Kr430n5_666]

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[drewWrite]

E is lame