Spray Paint

[tack1]

ya they fucked krylon
i only use rusto wish i had money to use montana
the caps off spray glue is bad ass

[ephect]

QUESTIOn

i know they have those refillable spray cans that you can pressurize with like a bike pump... is there anyway to make something like this yourself

[pedoe]

make a spray can?

[ephect]

boofin

[Rustofills]

Just mix your own paint that old fashioned way. That's my thing. Its easy and great fun for the hole family.

But if you really want. You can try something I tried one a while back. Here's how it go's.

1. Get a empty can and put a pin sized hole in the bottom to release all the old propellant.

2. Drill the hole out in the same spot as the pin hole, Make sure that the hole you drill is a little smaller then a bicycle tire valve. Or whatever kind of valve you pick to use.

3. Poor the paint you want to use into the can.

4. Push the tire valve into the hole. ( The hard rubber end of the tire valve will be LARGER the hole you are squeezing it into.

5. Use an industrial strength tire patch adhesive to hold the valve in place. Let the can sit upside down for a few day to let the patch glue dry fully. Hit it again with the same patch glue and let sit until dry. When its dry. Fill the can with air from a air compressor.

Now the issue I ran into when I tried this were obvious. If you put to much air into the can it blows out from bottom. Next issue it that because I was using just air. It was not the best pressure.

But There are a few more ways I have thought of that would work much better then that one experiment.


You can build a PVC pipe can type device.. Which it better then using a old normal spray can that you popped. Because you actually build a paint spraying device your self. which lets you to use PVC pipe end caps for the top and bottom of the device. As well there are a lot of super strong plumbing adhesives you can use to hold it together and air tight.

The only issues with this idea are.

1. A actuator. You will need to use a spray cans actuator that you cut off a empty can, and have properly sealed so you don't get leaks from the top and can still push your cap.

2. You will need to figure out where you want to put your air or gas feed valve. That you could build from any number of air compressor attachment. It may soul like a lot of work but when I get some time I will build one. I know it will work as long as I get past the actuator issue.

One more thing. IF YOU DESIDE TO TRY TO BUILD YOUR OWN COMPRESSED Canister of spraypaint. Don't forget that essentially, your building a hard plastic bomb filled with paint. If it bows up. You could get hit with a lot worse then just paint.But more then likely the seems will give out of the PVC will crack. Thus the reason I say use PVC over metal pipe. If you over fill a metal pipe and it popped well a few things could happen. One being it turning in to a fucking missile. lol

YEAH YEAH.. I know I sound crazy. I am. I ate lead paint chips when I was a baby.

Good luck if you try it.

[ephect]

ok got another question.... and dont let this one out fuckin 12 ounce sluts.... anyways, ive seen those things you can buy to basically do what your saying to a can but without puncturing it, it clamps on to the valve, and then you pour the specific amount of paint/liquid into the little tube thing, and you pump it right thru the valve, it works, on any can pretty much or so ive heard, but these things are like 150 bucks... so im wondering,,,,,,, is there anyway to get one of those cheap refillable spray cans from lowes(that you fill with paint and pump yourself) and then just connect the valve of the refillable can with the valve of a throwaway can? just wondering if anybody has tried this... im pretty sure it would work..

[johnneh7]

What the fuck are you talking about?

[tripple sicx]

these questions get stupider every day and they say you kids are the future SMH and why the hell would you even want to make your own can just buy one or steal it.

[Rustofills]

I would build one just to say i did it. As I have one type before when it was balls deep with snow out side. The can I refurbashed failed after a few uses and I knew it would. Bit it did work for a little while. If I build the PVC version. I really dont think I would use it much, nor is it practical. I think the only reason anyone else would want to build there own can would be the same as the reason I did. ( To have a perfect color match to oil based roller paint. ) But honestly as far as fucking with cans much, I personaly rather just mix paint the old school way. Fuck I think Im the only one in my area that still does that shit.

Anyone else out there still mixxing there own blends? Or mixxing up those scraps up to to condence there can laod? I like to mix my left over thick paint with stuff that's thinner. Like most hunter greens and navy blues. So I can get some nice different shades for outline colors.

[Rustofills]

ok got another question.... and dont let this one out fuckin 12 ounce sluts.... anyways, ive seen those things you can buy to basically do what your saying to a can but without puncturing it, it clamps on to the valve, and then you pour the specific amount of paint/liquid into the little tube thing, and you pump it right thru the valve, it works, on any can pretty much or so ive heard, but these things are like 150 bucks... so im wondering,,,,,,, is there anyway to get one of those cheap refillable spray cans from lowes(that you fill with paint and pump yourself) and then just connect the valve of the refillable can with the valve of a throwaway can? just wondering if anybody has tried this... im pretty sure it would work..

I have read this a few times and dont really know what your talking about.

[MomentIsNow]

I would build one just to say i did it. But I really dont think I would use it much, nor is it practical. I personaly rather just mix paint. Fuck I think Im the only one in my area that still does that shit.

Anyone else out there still mixxing there own blends? Or mixxing there scraps at least?


I still mix scraps, Only when needed though.
Just so I don't have too much shit in bag.


these questions get stupider every day and they say you kids are the future SMH and why the hell would you even want to make your own can just buy one or steal it.

What the fuck are you talking about?


^^
THESE.



ok got another question.... and dont let this one out fuckin 12 ounce sluts.... anyways, ive seen those things you can buy to basically do what your saying to a can but without puncturing it, it clamps on to the valve, and then you pour the specific amount of paint/liquid into the little tube thing, and you pump it right thru the valve, it works, on any can pretty much or so ive heard, but these things are like 150 bucks... so im wondering,,,,,,, is there anyway to get one of those cheap refillable spray cans from lowes(that you fill with paint and pump yourself) and then just connect the valve of the refillable can with the valve of a throwaway can? just wondering if anybody has tried this... im pretty sure it would work..


LOL WUT?
Honestly, What are you talking about?
Why are you gonna buy that shit when you can just use mixing caps?
You're over complicating things.

[Twisted Toaster]

Well its been a while since I been in lowes, and it seems they don't carry these anymore. I liked the gold american accents with a ny fat.
http://www.hardwarestore.com/media/product/641715_front200.jpg
But I did grab a few of these newer valspars. I tried 'em out with a ny fat, and they seem to be pretty good paint, like the colors too.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3273/3114265890_f277faa44b.jpg

[Rustofills]

OK, seeing as you brought up the Valspar. I will give you my take on that paint. Over all not the best paint nor the worst. Some of the colors are good. But you will never get as much coverage then with say Rusto or even some Krylons. Infact, your looking at about as much as 20 to 30% less coverage per can on average in comparison to a Rusto thats the same color. But that dosnt mean the paint isnt good enough to use. I have used it before and I will use it again. The best colors I have used so far. I will keep to myself. lol
Spend your own time finding out which ones make the cut. But With that said.

In short. If you have nothing else to use, Then this paint will do the job. But dont expect it to go to far. So grab one extra can per color then you would normally if you where getting my personal fav, Rusto

Also ALL OF THE valspar american tradition paint i have used. Every can I used SUCKED and is not worth even a buck a can.

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/drypickle/Drrusto.jpg

[Edward Orenthal Norton]

yeah i hate the smell of valspars too. they smell so dirty and nasty
rustoleum is your best option at lowes..

[Rustofills]

Thats something else about those Valspar regulars, I forgot to mention. They have acetone or lacquer thinner in the formula. So you do ge a fast dry. But you also get that smell.

[ephect]

it smells like shitty toothpaste commercials in here valspar

[injury]

anyone tried rusto universal yet? it's $8 around me...

bump

http://www.rustoleum.com/CBGProduct.asp?pid=181

[ephect]

oh i was just trying to say like... if you get one of t hose refillable cans, then you can refill it a bunch of times with thinned out paint or whatever... so it would be a lot cheaper, but im wondering if you can just transfer that paint thats then already pressurized into the refillable can into an old empty can... might work? plus you could get dope ass new colors, even spray acrylics, and see the color before hand.. just a toot

[Rustofills]

http://www.amtonline.com/article/photos/1227554195411_f8_02.jpg
These are great if your doing a roller piece. You can use it for marking a perfect match for chops.

[ephect]

are they refillable, i mean can you recompress it every time or what

[johnneh7]

You buy new cans for the top that attach to the bottom jar.

[ephect]

ya i saw one at home depot yesterday, kinda slick, but the refills cost more than PT's, id rather just buy cans........... pretty dope though, i found like 5 OG true blue krylons at home depot, just sitting in one of those carts in the isle, but they still sold one to me... :) only 2.99 :-D

[IRON CHEF]

OLD KRYLON--
(AT THE STAGE OF STILL BEING USABLE BEFORE IT TURNS TO COMPLETE WATER.)

LEAKING OUT THE SIDE OF STEM MAKING SEVERE MESS.

GROMMET AIN'T REALLY CRACKED AND OLD,
THE CANS ARE STILL "TIP-ABLE"

WHO GOTZ DA FIX YO?!?!?!?!?!?!

[Rustofills]

I still use old style Krylons. A LOT.

[ephect]

theyre freakin hard to find

[acer910]

AA isnt discontinued, lowes and home depot just dont carry it because valspar gave them a better offer.

painter touch 2x in claret wine is exact same as AA in claret wine. i find that funny because supposedly theres "twice the pigment". they both covered black, white, yellow and light green the exact same.
but then again, a burgundy color covers well no matter what.

are there any other AA colors made in painters touch 2x?
(and before you call BS they are both made by rusto)

[dBking]

ahem...

[Rustofills]

theyre freakin hard to find


Anyhow. Yeah the old female valved cans are harder to come by. But there are still some floating around. As long as you dont live any where near me. I say go out and clean house.
Don't forget you can REUSE them by refilling them.

Im all about tossing a little mix of scrap anything, In to a spent can of krylon.

[ephect]

and yo... if you want to utilize the (half inch or so) of leftover paint at the bottom of a can.. just usse a one of those butane refills (aerosol kind) top recharge the can just a little bit :-D

[Rustofills]

Or heat it up, with a lighter even works. Just dont let the flame sit in one spot for longer then a few minutes. Kinda just hold the lighter to the bottom and do the samething you would do to a blunt you just rolled t dry it up quicker. Also leaveing almost powerles cans in the sun on a hot day works just as well if you have the option of letting it sit long enough to the popellent to warm up. I have even let my cans sit in a sink full of hot water for a hour or so before going out in the cold. That works nice if your useing just a jacket /coat. As they hold heat well when full and even better if they are up close to your body.

[acer910]

how is it you look incredibly stupid in ch0 but you sound halfway smart in the yard?

[injury]

ahem...

aww hell naw, whassup dawg

[Rustofills]

how is it you look incredibly stupid in ch0 but you sound halfway smart in the yard?

Because I dont take posting stupid and or funny pictures serious. Nor should anyone.

[acer910]

good.
i have a hilarious picture that makes fun of vulcan, il sell it to you for 5 bucks.

(only 10 people in the entire world would be able to get it)

[Rustofills]

LOL ONly 5 bucks. Shit im all over that.

[acer910]

5 bucks is a small price to pay for lulz my friend

[ephect]

just a quick question... any way to lower pressure on like painters touch cans ? painted with some tonight, as well as a black mtn nitro 2g... but the painters touch just came out to hard of a pressure... i wish they were lower like the nitro that shit is dope

[Rustofills]

If you really want to lower pressure in any can? Its as easy as just tipping it upside down and presing the cap to blow some of the propellent gas out. But your better off just putting the in a freezer for no less then 15 minutes to get the can cold before use. The reason its better to just toss the said can/s in the freezer is becuase your not running a chance of running out of propellent and or leaveing much needed paint in the can.

So if you have the option of leaveing it in a freezer over night. Thats the way to go.

That upside down trick works really good to stop Rusto from the well known end of can sputters.

[MagazineScanner]

OinkArt now has Painters Touch 2x in 65 colors, with American Accent/Rusto/Painters Touch best selling colors. Gloss or satins, shit is dope. and $2.99ea
site is dwn right now though so it's irrelevant haha

[B!G D]

And they got some fancy sekt adapters for the cans too.. If your into that kinda thing

[acer910]

site is dwn right now though so it's irrelevant haha

aahhh

this all makes sense now.


thanks

[Edward Orenthal Norton]

yeah ill use painters touch if thats all i can find.. but ive had multiple valves clog on me.

[ephect]

pt' is dope if your in a regular climate.. even the cap that comes with ity is nice for fill ins.. comfy too, but pressure is a little high

[ThreeO3]

i heard that you could refill 100ml pocket montanas? if so how do you do it?

[StyleFive]

I was all about krylon for my oulines for years. But Krylon is not worth shit now. Between the fan spray female tip and how they seem to have made the paint thinner. The new Krylon isnt really worth your time.


agreed. used krylon for outlines for a decade. havent used any of the new ones with the new valve system. still got plenty of previous generation krylon in the stockpile to continue using it far into the future. keeping those cans temperature and moisture controlled as well.

[Rustofills]

i heard that you could refill 100ml pocket montanas? if so how do you do it?

You can refill them just like you refill all the other types of female cans.

[Rustofills]

pt' is dope if your in a regular climate.. even the cap that comes with ity is nice for fill ins.. comfy too, but pressure is a little high

I did notice that too.

[acer910]

safety orange in those rusto tall cans sucks, doesnt cover a damned thing.
took 3 coats on a freight to get a solid fill.

[PreOne]

so is it true ..walmart silver is gone?

[injury]

yes it is.

[PreOne]

that fuckin blows .... i know it didnt last etc..but for 1.00 it cant be beat ... put a ny fat on them bitches and its on

[STYLEISKING]

http://koolcideroc.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/leylandshop.jpg?w=500&h=712
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[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

diggin the color selection though

[Rustofills]

http://koolcideroc.files.wordpress.com/2009/10/leylandshop.jpg?w=500&h=712
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Nice color selection. Did you try any?

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

nice sketches there bud ^ :)

[Rustofills]

Kid im so ill.. That a 12oz forum glitch for those of you that dont know.

[2-C+C-2]

AA isnt discontinued, lowes and home depot just dont carry it because valspar gave them a better offer.

painter touch 2x in claret wine is exact same as AA in claret wine. i find that funny because supposedly theres "twice the pigment". they both covered black, white, yellow and light green the exact same.
but then again, a burgundy color covers well no matter what.

are there any other AA colors made in painters touch 2x?
(and before you call BS they are both made by rusto)

it is 2x the pigment of competition like kyrlon, not 2x the pigment/coverage of their old formula. Same shit, new packaging basicaly

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Kid im so ill.. That a 12oz forum glitch for those of you that dont know.

Lies, we all know that you're Neo from the Matrix

[acer910]

it is 2x the pigment of competition like kyrlon, not 2x the pigment/coverage of their old formula. Same shit, new packaging basicaly

well if thats the case why the hell isnt rusto advertising that on their other lines of paint? just about anything nowadays has twice the pigment of most krylon...

[2-C+C-2]

I'm just telling you what it is, probably because their other lines are industrial lines

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Acer,

Did you notice that Rusto switched the PT 2X can design up to look almost like the 360 label design? The PT Line is meant to perform against Krylon and does well in the consumer segment, the Stops Rust line is known for exactly that (stopping rust) as well as more industrial type projects. Krylon is their main competitor (aside from Euro brands but I don't know just how aware they are of that market segment). Krylon is known more as an arts and crafts and general purpose line, hence trying to beat them by the pigment claim as well as changing their can/label design. Its like when Rusto changed to a 360 degree valve with a comfort tip, less than a year later Krylon followed suit with that gay ass Danvern comfort/metal stem valve (which killed their product more or less for us!)

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

http://rustoleum.com/cbgimages/products/PT2X_12oz_GlossBlk_L.jpg
http://images.orgill.com/200x200/2810703.jpg

notice the mainly white can with the sloping/curved color gradient.

[acer910]

funny how the market works.

so we can blame rusto (and "the man") for the 360 krylons... interesting...
i always figured the tall rusto cans (the least visually stimulating) were for industrial purposes, the minimalistic but nice Stops rust line for garage enthusiasts and AA and PT for the garage enthusiasts former wives. so i would have predicted a little banner on the SR line talking about the pigment saying "beats all competition blahblah" and just a redesign of the PT and AA lines. because supposedly the women go for looks and the men go for functionality, thats why PT and AA say nothing about stopping rust when im 98 percent certain they do just as good a job as the stopsrust line...

in conclusion, rusto is rascist and caused krylon to change.


also, the cap on krylon how its curvy appeals more to women and the cap on rusto more to men.

[Rustofills]

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/drypickle/Drrusto.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/drypickle/Krylonfailscopy.jpg

These say it all.

[acer910]

i know you didnt just put my milliondollaridea in your signature

[Rustofills]

lol..Its TM and Copy righted.

[ephect]

stop PROMOTING

[ephect]

just kidding but yea.. iom pretty sure subdivisions arenet necessarily part of the main companies decisio nmaking elite board of elders shits shit

[PreOne]

so anyone know a good cheap silver out there now...

[johnneh7]

http://oinkartltd.com/ez-catalog/X380376/197

[PreOne]

has anyone manufactured decent caps for male cans yet ? what is the hold up on that ?
anyone have links or caps link me please ..those adaptors suck..very unnatural position
for your finger the cap sits so high off the can , they are kinda hard to press down after awhile..

[injury]

has anyone manufactured decent caps for male cans yet ? what is the hold up on that ?
anyone have links or caps link me please ..those adaptors suck..very unnatural position
for your finger the cap sits so high off the can , they are kinda hard to press down after awhile..

the female NYfats are probably the best overall female caps and you can make them at home by cutting the stem off and drilling into them to widen the hole. i am not sure how big the drill bit has to be though. there are other female caps out there for sale off graff sites but if you're looking for free caps check out cooking spray like PAM, which has nice ones, and the caps off

http://www.wekenshop.com/images/82236.jpg

^this stuff. those are all i use, there are no caps out there to my knowledge that are as big as rusto fats are on old cans.

also, i don't know of anymore dollar silvers... the cheap silvers near me have fan tips. rusto silver is still good. rusto gold is shit though.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

http://www.troutartsupply.com/avactis-images/pimage_164_000000001.jpg
Fat Caps for PT/AA male cans (female caps)
http://www.troutartsupply.com/avactis-images/pimage_166_000000001.jpg
Thin Caps for PT/AA " "

Made to match NY Thins/NY Fats as best as possible from samples submitted to the manufacturer.

found here:
http://www.troutartsupply.com/store.php?female_caps-pg1-cid65.html

[I_fell_off_the_bike]

http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/drypickle/Drrusto.jpg
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll193/drypickle/Krylonfailscopy.jpg

These say it all.

:p :p :p

[Dont Ignore Real Talent!]

damn sad but true u those pics say it all ^^^ rip ol school rustos

[PreOne]

just another example of how puritanical america does not support free thinking and the arts

we are rusto/krylon etc main purchasing/racking demographic and instead of [even if secretly] catering to graffiti/mural artists they continually make our lives miserable, by
fuckng up valves/discontinuing colors/changing formulas etc etc etc ... they can very easily make high quality / cheap paint that im sure most of us would gladly buy ..wtf!?!?!?
what a bad business plan..thats like dunkin donuts discontinuing coffee ..who is making the decisions at these companies?? do they really think by making these awful decisions they will discourage graffiti?? they still havent learned graffiti writers are the most ingenious mfers
on the planet ..if we cant buy it , we steal it ...if we cant steal it, we make it,,if it doesn't exist, we invent it ...and so on and so on ... wise up Rustoleum & Krylon we are your best, most loyal fucking customers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[acer910]

it doesnt matter if its effective, if they openly support graffiti then they lose the respect of the american people. once that happens, stores stop carrying them...
they could really care less who/how many people like their paint just as long as its enough for stores to stock their products.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

A lot of the formula changes are due to state regulations involving VOC's in the product. Each year or 5 years (can't remember which) states like California, Michigan, New York and Massachusetts commonly reduce the VOC limit which basically forces paint companies to change their formula, usually resulting in less pigment and more solvent.

In my area Home Depot isn't carrying the PT 2X line because of these regulations, which leaves us with Krylon 360, yet an hour drive north will get me the whole line at Home Depots in the next state up.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Also,

Whats interesting is that some art stores like Dick Blick and other smaller chains have picked up the Montana Gold line realizing the benefits to artists and crafters. Who knows if Krylon and Rusto will see the light eventually?

[acer910]

i think rusto and krylon will just look at the sales record of Gold at american stores and realize it isnt worth it. because i know they have had Gold on sale in their catalog or ages because they cant move it.


and do you think the emissions regulations is why european paints arent sold at most american stores?

[injury]

and do you think the emissions regulations is why european paints arent sold at most american stores?

probably not. i would bet european standards are higher than american ones, actually.
In fact what i think you're probably looking at is an often overlooked factor called "shelf price" which with more popular stores is essentially a fee paid by the producer to stock their products on shelves. it's most commonly seen in grocery stores but i wouldn't be surprised if that was what was involved; i bet german MTN (duplicolor) hedged a fair amount of money to pay some american chain stores to stock their product.

That's why you aren't seeing ironlak or spanish mtn in stores other than graff stores is because duplicolor is marketing and promoting german MTN aggressively and commercially, like a real business would. They're trying to go as mainstream as possible, which is not necessarily a bad thing, although I would bet it's bad for graff cause... oh boy... here come the youtube toys again.

Will rusto and krylon change? if people are obsessed enough with german MTN than they might change it. From a purely consumer standpoint the comfort tip pt and fan tip krylon are comfortable and easy to use. Unlike us, the normal customer primes a surface before painting usually... and thin paint looks good on a white primed surface just like thick paint. To a consumer things like a harsh smell and overspray are the #1 issues with paint.

Why I think krylon and rusto won't change is because of plutonium g spray paint and that story. I'm sure you know or have heard of it and that it... really isn't that different from regular paint. It has a nice valve and smells like ice cream; that is, it smells REALLY good and covers OK. other than that though, the brand is faltering, or seems to be. I would be that is because it hasn't been effectively marketed...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IuT0ljXA3cY

that's what is known as marketing. notice the way that they tried to domesticate spraypaint as much as possible. it's always been associated with graff, and i doubt much will change that. german mtn is approaching it from the artistic side of things, as an art supply, which is why you'll never see it in lowes or home depot. bet.

you may see it in michaels someday though. we'll see how far they make it, and whether german MTN stays around.



in the end... more PT for me.

[acer910]

im assuming the mtn duplicolor isnt the same duplicolor as this http://www.themanstoreonline.com/v/vspfiles/photos/Metalcast-2T.jpg
right?

[injury]

duplicolor is a larger german corporation and i believe that paint is made by the same.

[acer910]

then im assuming duplicolor wasnt started as a couple of guys in their garage...

[PreOne]

the way i see it , the market is wiiiiiiiiide open in the u.s. for a cheap , good color, good coverage spray paint to take over ..its ashame a group of writers with good credit [lol]
and a solid business plan cant get it together and do it..i was looking at some "blubber paint"
http://www.blubbercolors.com/ .... shit is crazy overpriced though..
basically we are all fucked ..forced to pay thru the nose for european paint [unless your a
primadonna...no names] ..or search for old krylons or rustos that may not even work ..

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Injury, its Motip-Dupli that makes the German stuff. Two guys had the idea, paid for Motip-Dupli to produce it(and rip off spanish MTN), then distributed it on their own (L & G Distribution). I've since heard that the paint company bought the company out from the two partners - for a decent sum as well, after they saw the success of the product.
The reason its in so many art stores is they sold to a distributor here who has his foot in the door with a lot of those art chains. Dupli-color here is a Sherwin Williams product.

Very good points though. Plutonium G will never make it here because it is a domestic paint being sold for more than the much better imported products. I think they are going more for the art market and consumer segment, but they seem to have overspent for the packaging they're using. It was like they had a good idea, but went in the wrong direction with it. It just costs too much and isn't readily available enough.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Pre,

It costs a lot to start, the minimums are high, and most companies only want to sell you their lowest cost product and aren't willing to work on a better formula. The market is wide open for a company like Ironlak to step in - which it is doing.

[injury]

ahh, damn, sorry for misleading y'all. thanks BMC.

[acer910]

this is one of those pages that needs to be screencaptured and filed away for the next meltdown.overhaul...

[PreOne]

ironlak...so far not a very friendly company imo ... and i used that paint in 30-40 degree
weather and it was spitting like crazy ..not impressed with that at all ..i used watery ass krylon in the 20's and had less problems [but that was the 90s of course lol] ..

but in the grand scheme of things ironlak is the move..price/quality wise ..

[..LAZRS...]

I dont get why people keep saying rusto is changing for the worse. All I use is usually rusto, the PT has nice colors and you can get female caps now from trout and even the stock tip is something akin to a decent fat cap.

I havnt tried Ironlak yet, but from what I read and hear from people its a pretty solid paint for a good price. I plan on trying it when i get my money right. I doubt I'll ever rock the mtn or montana, 5+ a can is too expensive for me to order when i can just go grab some PT, AA or rusto. Same for Belton.

I figure if I use ironlak for anything it will be a few colors supplementing my rusto, so I can get some nice colors. Though from what I read and hear, ironlak actually tries to listen to the consumers about anything they need to work on which is a great thing for us.

[injury]

agreed lazrs. i'm not sure what dudes are talking about either... shit is still good to me. but what do i know.

i used to live in ohio, and out there there was rusto, aa, old pt, even old krylon if you knew where to go, for days. the selection was crispy. i knew heads out there who would even then paint with fancy stuff just cause they could get it, which didnt make a lot of sense to me.

then one time i finally gave in and got a few cans of PG (played myself...womp) and used it for a memorial wall and some other pieces.

it came out fine but i probably won't do it again, just cause, in a way, i like having limitations. i'm also colorblind, so i feel bad buying rainbow paint when i can't see half the colors anyways :o . in a way, american paint picks the colors for me. har har.

then again, i know dudes that won't paint unless they have lak or belton or MTN or what have you. this shit is all kinds of flavors now, it's up to you in the end.

[..LAZRS...]

yea i can dig it, i only know of one store in the city i live that carries montana, and its 9 bones a can so ill never buy it. rusto/pt and aa have all the colors and work with all the tips i need. if i can still catch up on some ultra flat krylon ill use it, im down to my last can of ultra flat black and im hesitant to use it.....

[acer910]

i dont think anyone said rusto was getting worse... i just said rusto is to blame for the new krylon.

[..LAZRS...]

I must have misread.

What are peoples thoughts on Valspar? Its fairly watery, but the colors are nice. If you can depressurize it a bit it works fairly well. I've only used it on primed walls though, hows it on the steel?

[Rustofills]

Some Valspars or good. Most are not so good. You never get as much coverage even if you have a good solid Valspar color.

[acer910]

Some Valspars or good. Most are not so good. You never get as much coverage even if you have a good solid Valspar color.

this^

basically in my experiences any paint ive found to be a little "watery" and "okay" on primed walls wont be worth its weight in scrap metal on a freight with a not so perfect paint job. you could probly get away with it on those whitesides but not much else.

[..LAZRS...]

hmm, well ill try it and post the results. to be safe ill try it on a white hopper or something

[acer910]

hmm, well ill try it and post the results. to be safe ill try it on a white hopper or something
try it on a hopper for sure, rusto industrial safety prange wont even cover in one coat on a rusty/peeling paint boxcar.

[..LAZRS...]

yea i dont even fuck with that stuff, plus im not a huge fan of orange. its a once in a few months type shit for me

[1NSANE]

my favorite graffiti colors are green, red and black :D

[Rustofills]

What the fuck. Who cares? Wrong thread man.

[acer910]

with the quickness^


im just a fan of over 600ml for under 5 dollars

plus the store i get it from usually just stocks black white chrome and orange.

[injury]

my favorite graffiti colors are green, red and black :D

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v145/madamski/smilies/supergay.gif

[Rustofills]

To bad this wasnt for a good color.
http://cgi.ebay.com/2000-cans-of-Krylon-Industrial-Inverted-Orange-Paint_W0QQitemZ250525884104QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_D efaultDomain_0?hash=item3a54819ec8

[Rustofills]

This ones a good laugh.
http://cgi.ebay.com/CHRIS-NYC-SPRAY-PAINT-CAN-RARE-ORIGINAL-ART-FOLK-POP-CA_W0QQitemZ110445052845QQcmdZViewItemQQptZArt_Pai ntings?hash=item19b709c3ad

[ugene]

the MICHAELS store by my house finally stopped carrying krylon and now they got valspar, so i sticked up a lil today hehehehe

[Rustofills]

the ********* store by my house finally stopped carrying krylon and now they got valspar, so i sticked up a lil today hehehehe
http://drboli.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/dont-do-that.png?w=400&h=518

[injury]

i may have talked trash about rusto gold in the past? i take that back.

[acer910]

foreal?

ive never used their gold

[Rustofills]

Rusto gold is top notch.

[injury]

you gotta get it started, thats the thing. if you painting something in the dark then it won't do much for you... it starts and stops but when it works its HOT.

also not as dusty with a rusto fact than the silver..

[acer910]

does it cost more then the regular cans? because i know some places like to charge a extra 2 or 3 bucks just because its metallic....

[ThreeO3]

has anyone used this paint before? its pretty dope and shiny :D

http://i36.tinypic.com/6ejgg5.jpg

[acer910]

thats a BIG fucking cup.


and no, whered you get it?

[ugene]

looks like some hobby lobby kinda brand or something, but i may be wrong.:lol:

[acer910]

yea thats what i was thinking^

[timeforwasting]

i've found that brand with a bunch of diffrent colors at Michael's. i tried the bright pink and light blue, and only looked good when i sprayed it on my bedroom walls.

[B!G D]

Ace hardware has their own brand of spray paint with some dope silver. Its either a 500 or 650 ml, not sure.. But it was really nice and they have shit for security. Plus my buddy works there ha

[ThreeO3]

thats a BIG fucking cup.


and no, whered you get it?

from my school lol..

boston thins seem to work on it good.

[Rustofills]

Guys and Girls. PLEASE try to not say the names of places please. Thank you.

[..LAZRS...]

....dont try valspar on a reefer definately nowhere near as thick as the rusto so it just runs cus of the condensation, bad time for everyone

[FingerCramp]

LOL ^^^^^^^ Man no spray paint sticks to anything wet. But yeah most valspar paints are to thin.

[..LAZRS...]

my rusto worked just fine

[Rustofills]

All oil based paint, is rejected from a surface that is to wet. Some do better then others at cutting threw mosture depending on the quilty of the paint and the actual level of mosture on said surface.

Rust-Oleum actauly was originally introduced as a paint made for covering over rust on boats, back in the early 20s. So its not surprizing a brand that's formula was initialy designed for separating water particles to cover rust and metal works better then a brand like Valspar, which we all know is a lesser quilty brand in comparison to rusto. Not to mention was not furmulated for such tasks. But with that said. I have used both Valspar and Rusto at the same time on metal that was wet or had just condensation. They seemed to proform about the same. But yes the rusto took less effort to apply to the surface. But not that much better.

[ugene]

ye valspar isnt too bad, pressure is a lil different than rusto too especially with rusto fats. it really aint bad though

[Rustofills]

Valspar is workable. Thats about all I feel about it.

[..LAZRS...]

i dont mind valspar so much on a primed surface, i usually let out alot of pressure though. i just happened to see a reefer that was stamped so i didnt wanna pass up on it and i figured id try it out.

though to be honest i prefer valspar silver over rusto silver just because the rusto is so hard to cover

[ephect]

valspar is kind a dusty, but i like

[ugene]

i don think its dusty at all, it coulda been the caps you were using maybe? cuz i was using sum orange dots and they were fillin in nice

[NoLossEnds]

Its the caps. I got some Boston thins. They work ill on Valspar.

[ephect]

true that.. some caps dont work too well with them.. i like the paint though, but sometimes its just not that vibrant :-O it smells like toothpaste

[LIDO]

where is the cheapest place to get paint online?

[..LAZRS...]

you could do some research.

[Rustofills]

I like troutartspply and oink. From time to time you get a good deal on trout. But you need to check it every friggen day for deals. Cause they will add bargin deals and sell out that day. So I have made it a habbit of checking them 2 times a day.

[acer910]

you could do some research.
didnt you say you were going to do a valspar color test on a freight?
howd that go?

[..LAZRS...]

i already posted it, and it didnt go well....

but the problem was i used it on a reefer and it had ridiculous amounts of condensation and valspar is kind of thin compared to rusto/pt/aa so it ran alot. im sure it would do better at a daytime freight spot with a hopper or something, which ill do this weekend.

the valspar has nice colors, whenever i use it again ima let alot of pressure out of the can and i wont use it on a reefer anymore, only boxcars, hoppers, etc just nc it ran so much. not to say that rusto doesnt do the same thing, but i was just more comfy with the rusto.

but like i said i like valspars silver over rusto silver anyday its alot less thick and easy to cover

[Rustofills]

Towel.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Head

[Rustofills]

Camel

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Jockey?

[acer910]

ive used rusto in the rain on a freight and it wasnt too bad... some runs but oh well.

and good to hear larzs. or not so good, whichever you prefer.

[Rustofills]

Jockey?

Or toe.

[injury]

http://www.lolgifs.com/pictures/f13d3815e514141.gif

Just rollin' through.

[timeforwasting]

valspar is okay for fills on rolled walls. thats about it. never try using that shit on a outline for those who dont know.

[PreOne]

has anyone used this paint before? its pretty dope and shiny :D

http://i36.tinypic.com/6ejgg5.jpg

design master is flower paint, used by florists/crafters to paint flowers etc..
it was heavily used in the early 90s by writers , because of the pallette
but is grossly incompetant paint ..it fades within days and covers like shit ..
but in the fruity color,pics only,legal wall era nobody cared .. junk!!!

[acer910]

nice little history lesson right there^
(not being sarcastic)

does walmart still have rusto for 3.30?
yespaintbuyeroner.

[ephect]

yea fool, rustos wont run on that shit

[ugene]

nice little history lesson right there^
(not being sarcastic)

does walmart still have rusto for 3.30?
yespaintbuyeroner.

its 3.97 over here

[crackteeth]

my two cents.

plasticoat / car color:

shit works terrible with the lighter colors. total dogshit. runs, no coverage, etc. everything you'd expect 'bad' paint to be. the dark colors in the line work great though. don' expect detail-quality. but it's great for fillins.

avoid this unless you get a bulk deal for hundreds of dark colored cans. that's the only way this is worth it. plus 6oz cans. ugh. if it could handle tags, it'd be awesome, but they can't.

[XeNa]

Which do you think u'd have better control with low pressure cans or high pressure?

[..LAZRS...]

low pressure, the higher the pressure the faster you need to be with your movements. at least for me thats how it is, but as with everything in graff its all your preference.

if you want to try it before buying a low pressure paint, take a can you have and hold it upside down and spray for like 30 seconds or so, itll take some of the pressure off.

[PreOne]

http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae50/stopsrust/Pre/scan0203.jpg

early 90's stash in the lab!!

[..LAZRS...]

man i still got like 5-6 of those red krylons left

[acer910]

anyone have anything good to say about AA slate blue? picked up 6 of them for a dollar each

[..LAZRS...]

at a dollar each every AA is amazing

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Its thick and worth a buck

[jib25]

http://i956.photobucket.com/albums/ae50/stopsrust/Pre/scan0203.jpg

early 90's stash in the lab!!

^^Dope flick Pre!! What's the brand of the small cans?? Any old Krylon notch tops for sale?? ;)

[PreOne]

i cant remember the name of them .. i believe they were made by krylon , they werent short cuts for sure ..they fuckin ruled ..as u can see i racked them by the dozen ..the purple and turqouise were amazing..

[PreOne]

and no old cans for sale sorry , i gave up on that ..i gave my old collection to my boy back in 2000 and someone burglarized his house and took [among alot of other things] the paint collection..wack

now i just use them bitches and let them achieve there destiny ...
whats a brick if it isnt used to make a building?
whats a can of rusto if it aint used to smash a train or wall?....lifeless and unfullfilled lol

[Rustofills]

Thats what im talking about. Just use the paint. Keep the empty if you really want to have a old can to look at. Shit Im still burning off 15 to 20 year old cans of krylon and rusto.

[ugene]

black chrome and yellow rusto

[Rustofills]

Oh yeah, well I say Indian spice Rusto, Cherry red Krylon.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Mmmmmmmmmm...indian spice

[Rustofills]

I loved that shit. You know another one favs, Harbor Blue Rusto.

[..LAZRS...]

i fell in love with rusto sand, and true blue, and pretty much anything that sprays a color

[Rustofills]

Sand is a great soild Rusto color.

[ugene]

mmmm rusto:p

[ThreeO3]

what goes better wit harbor blue? sunrise red or regal red?

[jib25]

Looking for a Krylon Hot Pink (notch top) if anyone has one?? Top $ paid PM me if interested.

[jib25]

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/mealism/IMG_0723.jpg

[jib25]

http://i208.photobucket.com/albums/bb118/mealism/scotties.jpg

[ThreeO3]

^ that purple looks dope

[PreOne]

indian spiiiiiiiiiiiiiiice ....

[jib25]

^^Put it up there for you man!! That color is so sick.

[acer910]

anyone know anything about Krylons industrial pre cap system change flat black?
is it just like the regular krylon flat black?

[Edward Orenthal Norton]

tried Clash this weekend. its a pretty good paint. coverage is great. quick coverage like ironlak but sprays like german montana. the stock cap takes some time to get used to. id get again. but the homie charged $5 a can with a discount. id rather spend the money on MTN. but still a good paint.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Clash is good, so is Monster...I don't think many of these places would be buying literal boat loads of paint and reselling it if it wasn't good for the graffiti letters.

Anyone tried the new Blubber Color shit yet? I know they are sooooooo not relevant but I was just wondering for the sake of this being the Spray Paint thread.

[ephect]

blubber is SHIT..
tar black comes out like fucking tar shits.. and smells like fucking tar.. its seriously shitty overpriced paint

my friend bought the light blue and the tar black and both sucked

the blue spitted everywhere
the blasck shitted everywhere

and they smell like rubber,,

[Patches101]

rustoleum harbor blue with grass green lines <3
montanas okay, not all that cracked up like evryone says it is
and if ironlak bottled the smell of their paint, i would wear it as cologne everyday

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Ephect...Blubber has a new line out, which I was referring to...called Magic or some bull shit.

[Edward Orenthal Norton]

talked to some people that used blubber and said that the pressure is so high that its difficult to control.

[ephect]

ohh my bad didnt know there was a new line.. i guess i used the old ones, cuz like eon heard, that shit comes out way too high pressure, and the paint was really thick.. it bubbled too like tar.. :( gross

[PreOne]

blubber lol the name alone sounds funny ...
kry-oleum
fuck it im makin that .. the best of both worlds .. sprays like 90's krylon , colors of 80's krylon ,thickness and packaging of rusto ... with some big scottish dude faces on the sides with a fuckin pirate eye patch and a blunt in his mouth ..like whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!! 1.50 a can yo ..writers only , no hobbiers or fuckin chair painters allowed !! word life

[acer910]

i have a book with you on the cover, if you really are pre one.

[ugene]

valspar is kinda thin for doin tags, but it looks way thicker on fill in, also picked up some nice colors too

[ephect]

blubber lol the name alone sounds funny ...
kry-oleum
fuck it im makin that .. the best of both worlds .. sprays like 90's krylon , colors of 80's krylon ,thickness and packaging of rusto ... with some big scottish dude faces on the sides with a fuckin pirate eye patch and a blunt in his mouth ..like whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!! 1.50 a can yo ..writers only , no hobbiers or fuckin chair painters allowed !! word life


if you can make a can that sprays cheetah print.. im down.

[injury]

i have a book with you on the cover, if you really are pre one.

He's very much the real thing. I have that book too, I like it a lot.

And yo, if he ever makes that magic paint, put me down for some! I have 3 or 4 cans of 1991 pewter grey hanging around.. shit is beautiful.

[Rustofills]

blubber lol the name alone sounds funny ...
kry-oleum
!! word life

lol..
I use Kryoleum all the time. As well as kryoleumlak, and my fav whateverthefitsinthecanoleum.

I mix alot shit together.

Edit to add, PS Ironlak work much better in a old krylon can. Its really nice if you do a straight 50/50 split mix of the two.

[Rustofills]

If Blubber is as thick as some one said, Then thats the reason for the high pressure.
If you are looking for a real thick black fill? try automotive undercoating. I have used it a few times in a pinch. The shit is so thick it stand a few MM off the surface your aplly it to. Its messy and only good for fills. But its good fun and good for raw soaker walls.

But back to the blub, I used a can Blubber once ( OLDER CAN ) that was sorta runny.
If they changed the formula and made it thicker. Then they may have found that they needed the high pressure to get the paint threw the valve. My guess is you need to shake the shit so much that you may as well be singing the Kukaracha while you paint with it.

http://image.orientaltrading.com/otcimg/34_762.jpg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oz75hArCDpk&feature=related

[bitefight]

about to get some ironlak anyone recommend any colors

[Rustofills]

Its all pretty good for outlines. Some of the yellow toned colors are like every other brand. I little on the thinner side. But still work good for outlines.

[..LAZRS...]

raels green is awesome, and smurf, also the tar black works just as advertised.

[acer910]

i heard frazzeta pink was nice

[jib25]

My fav is Belton. Had a weird experience with 'Ces Violet' once tho'... kinda bizarre.. came out quite high pressure and real quick even after trying numerous skinnys. Almost had to re-do every line in the entire outline. Other than that it's always been sick.

[bitefight]

thanks guys for the help be sure so get some of those colors

[andro970]

montana 94 or sabotaz are dope ass paints for piecing. low pressure matte paint that you gotta beg to drip. speaking of... nitro mix paints are amazing! these would be the spanish montana 2g line, which has 9 colors, all go over chrome. dries almost as soon as it hits the wall! that and german montana gold. with the right thin cap (i prefer black dots) you can get marker thin lines that wont ooze onto your fill. speaking of montana gold, can anyone tell me what's up with the shock colors? are they a different mix or what's up with them? but i digress, if you want to go a bit cheaper, ironlak is dope as hell. gloss paint that goes on low pressure and details WAY better than montana hardcore... not to diss, hardcore is still a dope bombing paint, but lak what's up! while i'm talking bombing, try some molotow high pressure with your favorite fat cap, i prefer astro. flares like you wouldn't believe! and for the hippies out there, plutonium g is a good bombing paint. high pressure paint with a feel similar to hardcore cans, but has a valve that works 360 degrees and a unique can design that lets you get the cap literally millimeters from the wall. this also contains no xylene or tauluine(?) which for those of you that didn't know are also two of the chemicals you can eliminate by using a vaporizer instead of smoking.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

you can get regular cans millimeters from the wall too, without them looking like huge dildos you paint with.

[100%juice]

kry-oleum
fuck it im makin that .. the best of both worlds .. sprays like 90's krylon , colors of 80's krylon ,thickness and packaging of rusto ... with some big scottish dude faces on the sides with a fuckin pirate eye patch and a blunt in his mouth ..like whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat!!! 1.50 a can yo ..writers only , no hobbiers or fuckin chair painters allowed !! word life

hah.
sign me up.

[Rustofills]

Dildos for the win!

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

you realize thats the first post on the page right?

[Rustofills]

LOL That is pretty funny.

[acer910]

hahahah

[bitefight]

american accents is where its at
its the best because its made by rustoleum and it has some very nice colors
its some of my favorite paint

[Rustofills]

Agreed^

[..LAZRS...]

Yea AA is my favorite paint out there, its like the top knotch rusto pretty much

[acer910]

cosigned.


my first can was AA, wildflower blue.

[Rustofills]

Wildfloor blue is the shit.

[acer910]

wildfloor hahaha

your killin me with these typos, i think you do it on purpose haha

[Rustofills]

Sometimes. ^

But the truth is, I am missing 1 & 1/2 of the fingers on my right hand.

[acer910]

just hen peck, its what i do.

and which ones???????



and paprika (i think its called that) by painters touch is sick with black.

[Rustofills]

Pinky and half my Ring finger. No exciting storys, just a car accident.

[acer910]

il sell you a shirt that says "i got in this horrendous wreck and all i got was 2 fucked up fingers and this shirt"

19.99 plus S&H. I accept all major credit cards and moneygram payments. must be over 18 to order.






and i take all that back if this was a recent thing and its still upsetting, in which case : Damn dude, sorry to hear about that... good to hear you didnt let it keep you from teh graffitis.

[ephect]

make me a shirt that says tampons

[GNEREK]

I want one that says "GOT CRABS?" on the front and "WANT THEM?" on the back or "Dildos are a girls best friend"

[bitefight]

any one used sabotaz before
and my favorite american accents colors would have to be aqua or lilac

[Rustofills]

il sell you a shirt that says "i got in this horrendous wreck and all i got was 2 fucked up fingers and this shirt"

19.99 plus S&H. I accept all major credit cards and moneygram payments. must be over 18 to order.






and i take all that back if this was a recent thing and its still upsetting, in which case : Damn dude, sorry to hear about that... good to hear you didnt let it keep you from teh graffitis.

No worries. It happen 10 years ago. But on a funny note. Your mom loves when I jab 2 and a half fingers up her pooper.

Saying this.

Yeah baby, Feel the stub. Love the stub.

Oh & yeah this last part is true.^^

[acer910]

too bad you turn off the lights and tell them its just your half finger when its really your stub of a dick :lol:

[ephect]

dude he said his 2 and a half fingers up her ass.. does that mean he has 2 and half dicks with the lights off?

[Rustofills]

LOL I think, I should have just kept the fact I lost the pinky and half my ring finger, to my self.

[ghostnugz]

whats up with plutonium g? just tried a can out and it was trash. kept stuttering like crazy, had to shake the can constantly and none of the caps i have(gold dots, uni go's. nyo, nyf , rusto fats, rusto thins, pink dots) worked on it either. is it possible the vavle is just fucked?

[injury]

whats up with plutonium g? just tried a can out and it was trash. kept stuttering like crazy, had to shake the can constantly and none of the caps i have(gold dots, uni go's. nyo, nyf , rusto fats, rusto thins, pink dots) worked on it either. is it possible the vavle is just fucked?

shits overpriced like hell. the caps were probably just that can... it has the german mtn valve, gold dots and the pinks should have worked but the others are no surprise.

[ghostnugz]

shits overpriced like hell. the caps were probably just that can... it has the german mtn valve, gold dots and the pinks should have worked but the others are no surprise.

being that its so over priced im glad i traded for this shit, the gold dot didnt spray at all and the pink dot was sad. stock tip sprayed like shit too, mad stutter. oh well, in the trash where it belongs

[injury]

keep that stock on PG. it's an ill mid-level cap on old krylon. real flare-y

[Urban Scrawl]

I'm hooked on that aussie shit....Ironlak. Something about touches me in my special spot

[Rustofills]

LOL What ever floats your boat man. But I read your post in the ironlak thread and I do not agree.
Ironlak is JUST OKAY.

By this I'm saying. Its not bad. Its got a use's. Like almost every other spray paint. But I would'nt go around saying it gives me a tickle on my pickle.

[livejig]

Used a shipment Of Ironlak. worked well on walls but never seen something fade as quick as it does on trains. Will continue to use it on walls from time to time but metal.... Hell no! Rusto all day!!!!! All the light purples turned white the dark purples turned pink and the greens pretty much washed off with weather conditions in 5 months.

[Urban Scrawl]

LOL What ever floats your boat man. But I read your post in the ironlak thread and I do not agree.
Ironlak is JUST OKAY.

By this I'm saying. Its not bad. Its got a use's. Like almost every other spray paint. But I would'nt go around saying it gives me a tickle on my pickle.

hahahaha i hear ya man. My pickles dipped in ironlak as i type this

See, everyones bitching about shit fading, but i dont expect my shit to stay up for 6 months. If i was rocking legal walls, then maybe i'd join the hater bandwagon. Trains dont run long enough to warrant being upset

[NoLossEnds]

hahahaha i hear ya man. My pickles dipped in ironlak as i type this

See, everyones bitching about shit fading, but i dont expect my shit to stay up for 6 months. If i was rocking legal walls, then maybe i'd join the hater bandwagon. Trains dont run long enough to warrant being upset

True that

[livejig]

Trains dont run longer than 5 months.... PSSSSSST whatever on that one....

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

think he means trains trains (transit)

[Edward Orenthal Norton]

in july i got my first shipment of ironlak. i heard the countless rumors about the fading. so i sprayed a small circle on some blacktop that gets a lot of sun and rain. now it was a spray from the newest batch. (with the pink banana caps). i used some Reals Sublime. its been over 5 months now. and it hasn't appeared to have faded that much. i might have to go back and spray another dot of Sublime next to it to get a real comparison. but right now the price has gone up about 25 cents. so my broke ass is going back to racking and painters touch 2x. until i can afford it again. but when i do the comparison ill post the flicks of the final verdict.

[Urban Scrawl]

think he means trains trains (transit)

On the money there bro ;)

[livejig]

Not much of a clean scene here but yeah i would use it for the quick flick jam I guess too...

[ephect]

LOL What ever floats your boat man. But I read your post in the ironlak thread and I do not agree.
Ironlak is JUST OKAY.

By this I'm saying. Its not bad. Its got a use's. Like almost every other spray paint. But I would'nt go around saying it gives me a tickle on my pickle.


i just dont think ironlak mixes well with other paint besides ironlak...
COMPANY ONLY LETS THEIR PAINT WORK WITH THEIR OWN PAINT

IRONALK IS RACIST


..jk?

[.hopeless.]

your the most useless member on this forum by far..im negapropping you every chance i get.

[ephect]

and youre a fag

[.hopeless.]

24'd



ill get you later...

[acer910]

24'd



ill get you later...

gave him his second heviflow.

[matt.wh]

whats a good paint thats cheap and good for a toy??

[Doughnutstick]

refrigerated walmart cans

[seoren]

Whats the deal with that sabotaz shit? DOes it fade, things like that i wanna know.

[pedoe]

PT and AA all dayy

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Whats the deal with that sabotaz shit? DOes it fade, things like that i wanna know.

All paint fades man.

[.hopeless.]

whats a good paint thats cheap and good for a toy??


any type of dollar cans.they suck compared to other paint but its great for practicing. if your buying them you get alot more quantity wise then if you were buying name brand shit. if your racking them then your fucking stupid. if your gonna rack anything rack the good shit. go for rusto or krylon and whatever else you can find that doesnt completely suck balls.i practiced,and still do practice with dollar cans...

[livejig]

Krylon!!!lol...

[boom snap clap]

five coats of rusto.

[Urban Scrawl]

Whats the deal with that sabotaz shit? DOes it fade, things like that i wanna know.

Sabotaz is a nice good quality paint. Personally, i rep the 'laks, but i have dabbled in branching out. If you can get it, give it a whirl

[livejig]

Smells like coconut,vanilla sun tan lotion.

[PETER NORTH]

SEEN it at the store and wondered if anyone had any info on it?