Spray safe!

[sanuk]

Still uncertain as to what type of filter I need to spray paint. When you guys buy replacements what are they called? Would help, can't seem to find the right article explaining this. Thanks.

[OPRAH3A]

wait.. so i should STOP huffing?

the only reason you need to wear gloves is to keep evidence off your fingers. dont believe the hype.. thats toy shit.

[Drek]

damn this thread is so true, i was wondering whats happening to me ( headaches, sleepyness, hurts to breathe...) now it all makes sence

[sanuk]

so i called up this mega company 3m and the folks there say spray paint needs an organic vapours kind of filter. Im sure that reaches over to any kind of mask and respective filters.

[abcdhfhaskjdh]

ARE 3M FILTERS ORGANIC?

[AyteYourCookies]

is ther naything you can do to make it safer besides getting a resp?

[abcdhfhaskjdh]

maybe put ur shit over ur head, if ur that broke. Then theres another thing, but i think there more expensive than the respirator, its called an oxygen mask. google it

[abcdhfhaskjdh]

its sort of like this but at the end where the tube is its like an oxygen reservoir.http://www.rehabmart.com/product/11129.htm

[Baz00kaT00th]

its sort of like this but at the end where the tube is its like an oxygen reservoir.http://www.rehabmart.com/product/11129.htm

does something this compact actually work for spraypaint fumes? i've used 3m masks for piecing indoors but theres no way ill go bombing with one. its just too impractical walkin around with a mask, or takin it out puttin it on everytime u wanna do a fill in and when the 5-0 pass ur just standin there in the middle of the night with a fuckin mask on!!!

[Syfr]

I have to argue something: You don't need a resperator. You can get a simple mask. I have a thick foam-ish one that I use, and it's basically a filter on it's own. It covers from the bridge of my nose down around my jaw, and under my chin. Can't smell the fumes, and I never get a rush from any scents when I'm wearing em. I spent 10$ for a pack of 4. Also, careful with latex. You can develop an allergy that causes rashes, and dry skin. A best motive in my eyes is a cheap pair of leather gloves, or a cheap pair of thick ass gloves that aren't going to be penetrated, wont cut circulation, and let you feel the cap. I have a spare pair all the time.

People with glasses, or eye problems: Don't stand downwind from another painter when it's windy. You do, you get fucked.

Get out, get up, stay safe.

[Syfr]

DONT PAINT INSIDE!!!!!


i recently moved and in the new crib there was a slick basement wall-- i wasted no time in priming it and putting my scrap cans to good use-- i thought i had good ventilation cause i had two fans blowing air into the garage where i had opened the main door... after a month of about 20 min a day i started to feel genuinly stupider-- less articulate, more forgetful, tireder and all that-- another few days ant i started having these pains in my stomach /kidney area- it got so bad that i would be sitting in class bent over in pain trying not to scream......i went to the doctor and they gave me one of those joints they use to look at unborn babies-- they saw all kinds of shit starting to get irritated------ i stopped painting inside but even if im outside or in the yard for a while, or just have a long night out, the pains come back-- like a stupid motherfucker i dont have a respirator, but you know im about to get one.
Here's what you should have done:

Mask: first of all. Use a mask when you paint it.
Vent: Stay out of the area, and open windows for a LONG time. LONG LONG Time. Like a good day or two. Just keep a spot on what's going on down there.
Over prime: Go in with either arisol varnish, or a LOT of regular varnish, and either roller it, or run by, and spray it with spray-varnish.
Re-vent: Again, be careful about the fumes.

Wait about another day or two, and go down venting it all the while. Should've been fine.

[Syfr]

does something this compact actually work for spraypaint fumes? i've used 3m masks for piecing indoors but theres no way ill go bombing with one. its just too impractical walkin around with a mask, or takin it out puttin it on everytime u wanna do a fill in and when the 5-0 pass ur just standin there in the middle of the night with a fuckin mask on!!! And you're being irrational. Ever hear of winter bombing? Ever hear of hiding it under your shirt? That's how I do it, and I've never been bitched at. I've been questioned by police, and they've even driven me to places, and I'd fake dive in, and I'd paint it, and they don't know shit man. You just have to not be stupid about it.

[Sacrament]

all i got to say is dont do a lot of shit inside without a respirator.seriously.my friend sprays stencils in his room daily without a respirator and his snot is multi-colored sometimes...like the first post says,i dont wanna be 40 and be semi-retarded because of my "hobby".

[abcdhfhaskjdh]

always wear one. if ur outdoors at least wear the disposables and use your shirt over it to cover it up. those vapors are fukin harmful man

[UppsalaSweden]

When I was like 13 i was bombing this abandoned house indoors and at one point i just went mental in a certain room, quite small... felt like i had been in a zyklonB chamber afterwards

[abcdhfhaskjdh]

even when mixing paint in ur garage wear a mask, i learnt that the wrong way today

[crackin marbleees]

hydration reminder...

your body's detoxification system, I.E. your liver and kidneys, operates by disposing of toxins through your urinary tract. a lack of fluids leaves your liver and kidneys empty handed, stranded without their main weapons in your body's fight against hazardous substances, so make sure to drink plenty of water to flush the toxins out of yoru body. you remember, like when you were on probation. even the best masks dont filter ALL of the gasses out

[saek]

I NEVER USE TO THINK ABOUT IT UNTILL ONE OF MY FRIENDS STARTED HAVING BLATER PROBLEMS.... I BELIEVE HE IS IN HIS EARLY THIRTYS AND HAS BEEN PAINTING SINCE THE LATE 80'S. HE'S EXPIERENCED THIS I THINK TWICE....PISSING BLOOD AND PASSING STONES IS NOT WHAT I CALL A PLEASENT TIME........

word on this lad, at least sumone know the outcome.
pz

[bnigga]

So then a bandana is out of the question then? haha au revoir bandana

[xobe]

hello every one be sure to visit the most cooles graffiti site www.bombtheworld.net (http://www.bombtheworld.net/index_sf.html)

[NayS]

When i started a 4ish years ago no one told me to use a respirator so for about a year did a few pieces and never had anykind of protection. My mucus would be silver or harbor blue or what ever my fill was. I wasn't severly affected by it to the point where i have no bladder control or anything like that but i find that im just a little slower in my head sometimes. And now i sometimes i can't properly prononce words that need a lot of articulation.

thats just from smoking too much green

[abcdhfhaskjdh]

word on this lad, at least sumone know the outcome.
pz

wow i was just gonna come on here and tell everyone to wear a mask all the time. I have a friend who has serious bladder problems cuz his intestines are dust. Hes onl like 27 and he pisses on him self all the time, damn this changed my mind a little about graff.

[theKruelone]

Respirators are $20 at home depot,spend a dub and save ya lungs!

[Chubbs]

hello every one be sure to visit the most cooles graffiti site www.bombtheworld.net (http://www.bombtheworld.net/index_sf.html) then pee in my ass.

no homo

[EPOC]

This is what I use
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/implode2/gasmask.jpg



lol but for real, i gotta get a respirator, i already have 1 fucked kidney from football
and i know how easy it is to get rocked on fumes, we had this industrial degreaser at work...fuck it was fun at first but fumes are toxic as shit

[stat]

are them maintence free respirators any good?i was guna get one but im not sure

[trip donavin]

Respirators are for pussys..........haha, call me a pussy I need one bad.......Im dying slowly.

[SMOOTH-NUTS]

SORRY...

[RastaSF]

is it hard to rack a respirator? cuz i might need one soon.

[561!]

if your asking that question, yes.

[thehaze]

dust masks are fine unless you paint 3 hour burners everyday. paint fumes take along time to hurt you. most of you dumb fuck kids dont need anything.

[rustofrisco]

another reason to wear gloves is in case the cops hastle you (at least in the bay area) they can have cause to search your belongings if you have dirty hands..

my friend got sentenced cuz he was leaving crushed freights in oakland and had paint all over his hands

[Chubbs]

oh really? wear gloves?


fail

[facemeltAAARGH]

another reason to wear gloves is in case the cops hastle you (at least in the bay area) they can have cause to search your belongings if you have dirty hands..

my friend got sentenced cuz he was leaving crushed freights in oakland and had paint all over his hands

LOLLLLLZZZZZZZZZ



but seriously, if you're desperate and too broke to buy a respirator, then just go to a ghetto hardware store with less employees/surveillance so you can rack 'em up (thats so fucking obvious, but whatever).



or just ask your dad if he has an extra one cause you need it to 'paint' all over the hood. im pretty sure he'll give it to you :rolleyes:

[ShaneIsAGamer]

Dude, if you don't wear a mask your dumb, bandana's don't do anything against fumes and if you think inhalation isn't a problem your an idiot...

Be smart, go to home depot, buy a respirator for 20 bucks, and don't wind up a veg...plain and simple

[ShaneIsAGamer]

Respirators are $20 at home depot,spend a dub and save ya lungs!

I know...if your not willing to drop 20 for graff, you shouldn't be writing anyway

[STALKER]

20 bucks could save u $2000 in hospital bills in the long run..
Or you could be like IZ and have fuckdup ass lungs, or was that futura...dunno dont matter

[*ECON!!]

[/COLOR] hey, that was iz

[kage212]

this is about spraying safe but not about masks. i wanna tag a place with camera's i usually wear a hoodie and a bandana over my mouth and nose. but is it still not safe enough too spray it if it's got camera's.

[kage-]

i never really thought about respiraters.
looks like thats something else ima have to steal:lol:

[purehatecrew]

yea i got mine at osh but left it out so i need to go snag some new ones

[DiamondDogg]

iz the wiz said that not only did he paint nonstop for years but that he explored old ass rooms in ny subway all the time. no doubt that the crazy asbestos and other toxins in places like that added to his lung problems, not to mention just being around grimey subway yards in between trains which compact paint fumes. i dunno, i think unless your bombing jase style, your gonna be fine. if you do get lung problems its prolly smoking or smog or some other shit

[inyurface]

can any on school me to what is concidered a "dead letter"?

[TEASER]

hey what ploys yov guys use when da cops ask y you have a resperator

[TEASER]

can any on school me to what is concidered a "dead letter"?

to da besta my knowledge there plain lettaz

[johnneh7]

stop sleeping in your fucking english class.

[TEASER]

stop sleeping in your fucking english class.

im on my freakin psp it takes like 5 minutes to type it correctly

[inyurface]

word thanks. i was absent on deadletter day in english class

[lyner]

damn it alright i am buying one :)

[jule]

Newbie to the forums here but for my first post, I figure I could give all the other writers out there a heads up. Here are 2 different type's of respirators for only $10 each. These are military issue - and I myself have the OM10. They work fantastic. Get 2 of them, or one of each, while youre at it. Enjoy

http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/MLT9101-45024-1393.html
http://www.cheaperthandirt.com/MIL1200-65423-1393.html

[Day.6]

yeah, anyone who paints and doesn't want to be a shrouded cunt should wear a respirator. A t-shirt/bandanna doesn't do shit. You can easily rack or buy a 3m respirator, get the organic type with organic filters!
So paint safe or enjoy having a shitty life

Edit:

For the 3M respirator I'd recco the 6000 or 7000 series, they rock well - just don't get the ones with only dust filters and make sure that you can replace the filters - no point spending money on something your going to throw away in a month.
And replace you filters every 3 months or (so the panphlet with my 3M reccos (P95 Filters)) after approx 40 hours of use (they also say within a month, whatever comes first - but if you keep it in a ziplock bag then in an airtight tupperware container)

(thats a long fucking edit)

[187homicide]

thats just from smoking too much green

NAW I B FEELIN DAT WAY 2 N I DONT SMOKE

[Cymru]

Thanks for the infos and the stories here. I'm going to get a few paints and protection (sounds funny) for when I start. I'm gonna try spray painting for my church youth group.

I currently have one can of black satin (krylon), and I have tried doing letters, but the cap sucks and it comes out in a "l" shape. So I asked my parents to take me to Vancouver to stock up on a bunch of stuff. I'm thinking of buying a white, green (apple) and bright orange. Green will be the fill in, and orange for outline. I almost know what I'm going to start with. I currently have two throwups? idk the word for it lol. One is in a Cope style, and the other is harder. The Cope style one I can do easy, but the other looks better.

I'm probably gonna get killed for being so lame and not knowing anything, but I'm more for the painting and practicing than for learning the names lol. I just found this forum by looking in google, so if anyone want's to PM me to talk or give me tips, then please do.

[thelowerclass]

^^God is dead

And for the record if you plan on doing a piece for your church you're :

A ) Going to need more then 3 cans total
B ) Going to need an assload more practice, sketching a piece and painting it are two different ball games


PS: I'm sorry for swearing since your parents probably look over your shoulder on the internet and you're going to have to goto confession now.

[gozzue]

I´ve been writing 15 years without mask or anything. I have problems sometimes breath and i know it's payback time sooner or later. So kids take care your health or do whatever you want it's your choice. Now i have 3m masks when i paint walls. When i paint steel i don't wan't use masks, it feels that way better...

[dankspaz]

um, yesterday my heart rate was 180 (average is 70) for a good 10 minutes... then, it cooled off. does anyone know any correlation for this. i admit i rarley wear a mask nor gloves.

that mighttt be your problem.
or some other health problem thats non-tagging related.

wear your right masks and gloves!

[purehatecrew]

Thanks for the infos and the stories here. I'm going to get a few paints and protection (sounds funny) for when I start. I'm gonna try spray painting for my church youth group.

I currently have one can of black satin (krylon), and I have tried doing letters, but the cap sucks and it comes out in a "l" shape. So I asked my parents to take me to Vancouver to stock up on a bunch of stuff. I'm thinking of buying a white, green (apple) and bright orange. Green will be the fill in, and orange for outline. I almost know what I'm going to start with. I currently have two throwups? idk the word for it lol. One is in a Cope style, and the other is harder. The Cope style one I can do easy, but the other looks better.

I'm probably gonna get killed for being so lame and not knowing anything, but I'm more for the painting and practicing than for learning the names lol. I just found this forum by looking in google, so if anyone want's to PM me to talk or give me tips, then please do.

have fun growing up.

[Cymru]

^^God is dead

And for the record if you plan on doing a piece for your church you're :

A ) Going to need more then 3 cans total
B ) Going to need an assload more practice, sketching a piece and painting it are two different ball games


PS: I'm sorry for swearing since your parents probably look over your shoulder on the internet and you're going to have to goto confession now.

I'm a Christian, not a frikkin six year old priest.

And you can't confess for something someone else has done o.O
And if you'd have read the bible at least once, you'd know that Jesus died. Not God.

I've tried writing with my crappy black paint and it was quite easy to keep it in line. I'll be sure to post it when it's done.

[purehatecrew]

haha, that dude didnt think god died he is saying he is dead.

and jesus said he was lord.he told alot of lies.


what kind of loving god needs a blood sacrifice to forgive, i love my family i dont need to kill anyone to forgive them.


wake up think for your self, your faith is dead and a way to control you into being a good little boy,i promise i have read the bible more times and studied it more than you.


god hates us or is a fucking lie,

[Cymru]

haha, that dude didnt think god died he is saying he is dead.

and jesus said he was lord.he told alot of lies.


what kind of loving god needs a blood sacrifice to forgive, i love my family i dont need to kill anyone to forgive them.


wake up think for your self, your faith is dead and a way to control you into being a good little boy,i promise i have read the bible more times and studied it more than you.


god hates us or is a fucking lie,

Lol I seriously doubt you have ever picked up a Bible.
Jesus was made by God to come to the Earth. Nobody was good enough to go to Heaven so he took everyones sin, and put them on himself (and as soon as he did this, God rejected him because of the sin) and then died. After this day, anyone that asks for forgiveness (and obviously everyone needs it) will get it. He then rose again three days later and went to Heaven. By killing yourself for your family, it doesn't get them free from sin, or get them to Heaven.

Hosea 4:6, "My people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge: because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you." Please actually learn something about God before rejecting him completely.

[purehatecrew]

Lol I seriously doubt you have ever picked up a Bible.
Jesus was made by God to come to the Earth. Nobody was good enough to go to Heaven so he took everyones sin, and put them on himself (and as soon as he did this, God rejected him because of the sin) and then died. After this day, anyone that asks for forgiveness (and obviously everyone needs it) will get it. He then rose again three days later and went to Heaven. By killing yourself for your family, it doesn't get them free from sin, or get them to Heaven.

Hosea 4:6, "My people are destroyed for a lack of knowledge: because you have rejected knowledge, I also will reject you." Please actually learn something about God before rejecting him completely.


shut your 14 year old mouth dumb shit,im at the very fucking least 5 years older than you.i shur i was going to youth group and bible study wile you where playing hide and seek with mommy wile she home schooled you.

i have learned more about god than you will ever know,and i fucking hate him. i 100% believe in god, i i piss on him and the fucked up world he left us in.

i can only hope you waste your time praying for me.

allah is god, submit to him. or ill cut your moms head off.

[varivaldi]

make sure it's a vapor mask and not a particle mask...

Particle masks only filter particles like dust/dirt/etc.

Vapor masks filter, yep you guessed it, vapors which come from cans..wow.

use it or lose it.

[Husalah16]

SPRAYING SAFE IS A VERY IMPRTANT ISSUE...TRY TO WEAR A RESPIRATOR AS MUCH AS POSSIBLE IT CAN AND WILL FUCK YOU UP!

[schizophrenia]

There's not oe point in time when I don't smell like pisss :D
If I dont start rockin a mask in a few years I won't be able to drink a glss of water without pissing it out befroe i'm done drinking it.

[ThaPlatform]

Is it only bad if paint gets on ur hands, cause when ever i paint i never have any colors on mine

[esloc]

hey all these symptoms you guys listed almost match what i feel due to my diabetes.... you think me painting walls and rooftops is going to fuck me up without a resperator in the long run?

[purehatecrew]

walls and rooftops yes, trains and tunnels no

[johnneh7]

Is it only bad if paint gets on ur hands, cause when ever i paint i never have any colors on mine

do you breath through your hands?

[cellphone]

do you breath through your hands?

what ever gets on your skin gets absorbed into the body.

[ThePatrioticVandals]

Hey i got a question, im not sure if it was posted before or not, and i only have time to read few pages. But, how long does it take to get some symptoms from the paint fumes? I have been painting not to long, around since 2007 or so, and quite curious if ABOUT 2year, or year and a half could mess you up. Just super curious. Thanks

[dBking]

depends how much you inhale, and of what solvents, and the strength of your kidneys....

lots of variables. just pay 30$ for a respirator and i guarantee it is cheaper than a new kidney.

GUARANTEED.


































you have had too many fumes when u start dribbling piss after ur done pissing and already zipped up, or other symptoms like kidney or ureter pain, (lower back), also, dizziness and blurry vision along with numbness or tingling in the finger tips, lips, toes, nose.

[siek187]

depends how much you inhale, and of what solvents, and the strength of your kidneys....

lots of variables. just pay 30$ for a respirator and i guarantee it is cheaper than a new kidney.

GUARANTEED.


































you have had too many fumes when u start dribbling piss after ur done pissing and already zipped up, or other symptoms like kidney or ureter pain, (lower back), also, dizziness and blurry vision along with numbness or tingling in the finger tips, lips, toes, nose.

Damn thats kind of scary to me, Ive only been writing for a little longer than a year, and ive spilled ink on my hands so many times, and I usually mix inks in my room, and i sit around with the fumes. Ive had the dribbling piss, the dizziness, blurry vision, and also tingling in the fingers. Maybe its time to see a doc or some shit, or just start using a respirator and gloves from now on.

[dBking]

deff seee a nephrologist, because i wont be an MD for another few years here.....



butyeh a resp wouldnt hurt.... if you have dribbling piss then we know for sure your renal sphincter right before your ureter is already eroded.....



its a tough life man, you could have had it worse...... hjust go to the clinic doggie.

[keso cheese]

Another good reason to wear masks when you go into abandoned warehouses is to protect yourself from certain types of molds that are really bad for you, and most of those buildings probably have asbestos if they are old enough.

[dBking]

most buildings olld enough to be abandoned are guaranteed to have asbestos

[ɞℓiɴĸ]

Yo are the ones Lowes carries the organic ones approved for paint? I fucking racked it and dont have my shit anymore.

[DaOnlyQue]

I hate that shit.
Wtf... so 3M puts ORGANIC on the bag.. and people approve automatically..
jk

[I_fell_off_the_bike]

good infomations on this , good shit

[dBking]

it has nothing to do with that kiddos. read the box and compare it to the one that does not say organic. then compare which one you can actually wear for BREATHABLE air. or sustained breathing.

[FuckDaFakes]

Im in two minds witha ll this stuff...

I do wear gloves and they dont bother me tbh but they do leave my habds feeling a bit funny when i take them off.

The thing that makes me question whether or not to wear a respirator or not is the fact that dudes like seen and cope and dondi, crash ect never wore a respirator during their young days and as far as i know they aint got many roblems... obv apart from dondi... RIP.

Well excuse my ignorance if ive came across that way lol.

[ɞℓiɴĸ]

Man, watch this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QT-uFgjyBtE

The part I'm talking about starts at 6 minutes if you're not interested in the video, but if you're not interested, you might as well leave here lol.

A-TRAIN NORTHBOUND, RIP.

[FuckDaFakes]

Yo man ill give you props for finding that.

i stand corrected.

[graffiti25]

Im in two minds witha ll this stuff...

I do wear gloves and they dont bother me tbh but they do leave my habds feeling a bit funny when i take them off.

The thing that makes me question whether or not to wear a respirator or not is the fact that dudes like seen and cope and dondi, crash ect never wore a respirator during their young days and as far as i know they aint got many roblems... obv apart from dondi... RIP.

Well excuse my ignorance if ive came across that way lol.

i know it dont seem like they do, but iz the wiz just died, he had kidney failure from paint and other health problems that eventually led to hid death....

[cloud cover]

Kids, it's a lot more debatable whether you should use a respirator while bombing street fill-ins etc, due to security concerns, but for fuck's sake just wear one when you paint burners, trains or anything else where no one is seeing your face anytime soon. You really don't want to see your hair fall out, or lose bladder control, and the side effects from inhaling spray paint get a lot nastier from there.

[phillybios]

Don't be afraid to ask questions you think might be dumb. Fuck the haters.

i like this guys thoughts....

[LatinoPride88]

i never heard dat breathin that shit will make your hair fall out..

[Mawk]

if your bombing somewhere you might be seen dont wear a respirator, just cover your mouth with a scarf or something.

i dont think itll make your hair fall out.. but it can kill your lungs, and i always wake up the next morning with colored dust in my nose

[turkeyboy]

Hey Im moving from Wyoming to Washington Seattle, And I write down here but I dont wana get jumped or something. So if someone is willing to show me around It would be greatly appracted.

[johnneh7]

pig

[turkeyboy]

Another good reason to wear gloves if you get rolled on, And you book it and ditch everything. They cant get photos of your hands if theres no paint on them.

[turkeyboy]

pig

Your going to call me a pig? wow eat a dick.

[murderland_bgk]

haha play nice kiddies

[.hopeless.]

if your bombing somewhere you might be seen dont wear a respirator, just cover your mouth with a scarf or something.

i dont think itll make your hair fall out.. but it can kill your lungs, and i always wake up the next morning with colored dust in my nose

its not gonna do that much damage to oyu unless you paint ALL the time.and for years.if your bombing every blue moon it wont affect that much or at all.i cant speak for you becuase idk how much you paint but ive never used a repsirator and ive never had a problem...

[MomentIsNow]

^^
Moons never blue when I bomb.
Respirators are a must for indoor pieces.
You should be wearing respirators if there's no risk of anyone seeing you as mentioned previously.
You might not have been writing long enough to feel these effects or even care about it.
Symptoms don't just pop up overnight and the changes are subtle so you won't notice it right away.
If you've had rainbows come out your nose then I suggest a respirator.

It's always better safe than sorry.

[.hopeless.]

yeah but youll look mad suspicious if someone stops you with a respirator...jus saying.im not health conscious anyways.i know i should be becuase ive heard of alot of writers fucking up their kindeys and shit and getting the shakes but idk i guess im just too lazy to go get one.i just use my shirt as a mask.fuck it haha.but if you want to get one to paint in or if you paint frequently like every day then yeah go for it thats your decision and your health on the line.but me i dont really care either way.

[I_fell_off_the_bike]

its not gonna do that much damage to oyu unless you paint ALL the time.and for years.if your bombing every blue moon it wont affect that much or at all.i cant speak for you becuase idk how much you paint but ive never used a repsirator and ive never had a problem...

dont jinx it bro, even if you say you dont care, maybe someday you will when the effects occure. but hey, even if you dont, then your crazy hah.. hope you dont die of paintin though. hahhhhhhhhh.:scrambled: :scrambled: :scrambled: :scrambled: :scrambled: :scrambled: :scrambled:

[HLPone]

i should probably jump on getting one of these
since i'm too lazy to scroll through a tonne of pages, anyone wanna suggest a cheap as fuck one that gets the jorb done?

[lefty2]

paint is bad for you . wearing the wrong respirator is bad too. i see the young bucks wearing they dust masks.. dont do shit.. might make it worse.

[poisonpixel]

I want to go bomb under a bridge. This bridge is not a big one but has lots of wall room and is by a busy street and businesses. I bought 4 99 cent cans from home depot in black and white and tested them on multiple tips. What do you think is the best time to go and any other advice?
INB4 respirator shit

[Onik734]

yo for the record, make sure the paint you buy doesnt have a chemcial called toluene. i have nerve damage from inhaling it and now i constantly shake a little bit. its nothing serious im no michael j fox and it doesnt inhibit me from daily tasks and its not like i cant write as good because if it but i mean like i cant hold my hands still for shit. fuck respirators though they're the sketch nasty. just cover your shit with a bandana around your neck and when you paint lift it up

[Rustofills]

Gloves, respirator, dark clouthing, proper can management / storage. Try not maken yourself look suspicious. Don't forget to try and not make any unnecessary noise. DO NOT EVER LEAVE emptys, used or unused gloves and caps behind and laying around, even if its some so called ultra chill spot. YOU JUST DONT DO IT. The rest of the task is all you.

Thats about all you really need to know about spraying safe. Other then just useing Common Sense!

PS Turn that fucking cell phone OFF! If you cant see? To bad, deal with it.

[poisonpixel]

Gloves, respirator, dark clouthing, proper can management / storage. Try not maken yourself look suspicious. Don't forget to try and not make any unnecessary noise. DO NOT EVER LEAVE emptys, used or unused gloves and caps behind and laying around, even if its some so called ultra chill spot. YOU JUST DONT DO IT. The rest of the task is all you.

Thats about all you really need to know about spraying safe. Other then just useing Common Sense!

PS Turn that fucking cell phone OFF! If you cant see? To bad, deal with it.
Thanks for the reply.
I expect it to be really dark under the bridge because it was dark when I went down there in the daytime but I guess I can deal without that light. I don't really know how I can make myself not look suspicious when walking by myself in the middle of the night. Wouldn't any cop stop and check the person to see what is up with being out so late (i'm underage and really look it)?
I was thinking of taking the cans in a grocery bag to look less suspicious. Also what time would you recommend for being the best time? I was thinking really early in the morning because there commonly are people active at that time and the businesses are still closed with cars seen really rare.

[HLPone]

yo for the record, make sure the paint you buy doesnt have a chemcial called toluene. i have nerve damage from inhaling it and now i constantly shake a little bit. its nothing serious im no michael j fox and it doesnt inhibit me from daily tasks and its not like i cant write as good because if it but i mean like i cant hold my hands still for shit. fuck respirators though they're the sketch nasty. just cover your shit with a bandana around your neck and when you paint lift it up

color place has that in it, montana gold doesn't, i don't have any other cans around atm though but shit imma be careful aboot that

[poisonpixel]

Thanks for the reply.
I expect it to be really dark under the bridge because it was dark when I went down there in the daytime but I guess I can deal without that light. I don't really know how I can make myself not look suspicious when walking by myself in the middle of the night. Wouldn't any cop stop and check the person to see what is up with being out so late (i'm underage and really look it)?
I was thinking of taking the cans in a grocery bag to look less suspicious. Also what time would you recommend for being the best time? I was thinking really early in the morning because there commonly are people active at that time and the businesses are still closed with cars seen really rare.

I went to the spot at around 4:00 pm. The cans I used were Quick Color from Home Depot at 0.99 each. I guess I got what I paid for because the whites were really shitty. The black seemed to work fine on the other hand. I also haven't really done graffiti before so I didn't test to see how the caps would work. I used an astro fat caps for the fill and the outline and the fucking paint leaked all over my hand. I took pics. If anyone is interested on how the shitty paint looks just ask.

[Rustofills]

Post the flick young jedi.

[MomentIsNow]

color place has that in it, montana gold doesn't, i don't have any other cans around atm though but shit imma be careful aboot that

Rusto has that shit in it too. Always wondered why my hands were super shaky at times..

[Rustofills]

I do get twitchy my self. Especially after a paint with rusto and no mask. Any one else ever have they're teath feel weird after painting? Almost like cemment.

[poisonpixel]

Post the flick young jedi.

Here it is. The paint was leaking from the black and white cans so much it went all the way down my wrist.
The colors can kind of be used to show how well quick color works. White was really shitty & practically invisible.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3501/3938148775_1a055824a6.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2661/3938930284_8a7d597a29.jpg

[Sleepingwolf]

Here it is. The paint was leaking from the black and white cans so much it went all the way down my wrist.
The colors can kind of be used to show how well quick color works. White was really shitty & practically invisible.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3501/3938148775_1a055824a6.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2661/3938930284_8a7d597a29.jpg

I picked up some of the white the other day just to see how it works. Your right its complete shit! The stuff was almost clear and driped like hell. All my caps worked fine on it though including a boston thin, rusto fat, and a pink dot.

[TRUEORFALSE]

Always be a hundred percent save the fortys for after

[TMoney718x]

wordd me neither i dnt take da risk

[ephect]

Here it is. The paint was leaking from the black and white cans so much it went all the way down my wrist.
The colors can kind of be used to show how well quick color works. White was really shitty & practically invisible.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3501/3938148775_1a055824a6.jpg
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2661/3938930284_8a7d597a29.jpg



why are you drawing pictures of foot sandals on the wall

[Rustofills]

Fucking FAGGOT SPAMMERS. Thanks for giving me a reason to have a free post.
http://www.weeklyreader.com/readandwriting/content/binary/spam%20boy.jpg

[acer910]

...




quickcolor black is the shit, dont hate. never tried the white tho...




and rusto, get your teeth checked... i know what feeling your talking about but ive never gotten it from painting... and ive also always chalked the shaking up to the muscles in my hand being under strain for so long and then being under no strain. sorta like how sometimes you shake after lifting too much?

and also, am i the only fucking person who after painting for about 30 minutes my "dominate" painting finger (right index) completely goes to shit and gets so weak it cant even press the cap half down? its been like this for a LONG time and im starting to get too good with my left hand for my liking...

[B!G D]

^Haha i hate that feeling. Usually i have to switch to spraying with my thumb. I think if i went to my left hand it'd look, well just horrible like a five year old trying to paint for the first time.

And you ever get the feeling in your finger like its stuck? Like even when you try to just relax it goes back into painting position..

[acer910]

^Haha i hate that feeling. Usually i have to switch to spraying with my thumb. I think if i went to my left hand it'd look, well just horrible like a five year old trying to paint for the first time.

And you ever get the feeling in your finger like its stuck? Like even when you try to just relax it goes back into painting position..

everything i do after the fill is done with my left... hahaa

and yes, i HATE that.

[bitefight]

...




quickcolor black is the shit, dont hate. never tried the white tho...




and rusto, get your teeth checked... i know what feeling your talking about but ive never gotten it from painting... and ive also always chalked the shaking up to the muscles in my hand being under strain for so long and then being under no strain. sorta like how sometimes you shake after lifting too much?

and also, am i the only fucking person who after painting for about 30 minutes my "dominate" painting finger (right index) completely goes to shit and gets so weak it cant even press the cap half down? its been like this for a LONG time and im starting to get too good with my left hand for my liking...

same here i get that felling to either i just switch hands or take a brake for a little bit

[Edward Orenthal Norton]

Gloves, respirator, dark clouthing, proper can management / storage. Try not maken yourself look suspicious. Don't forget to try and not make any unnecessary noise. DO NOT EVER LEAVE emptys, used or unused gloves and caps behind and laying around, even if its some so called ultra chill spot. YOU JUST DONT DO IT. The rest of the task is all you.

Thats about all you really need to know about spraying safe. Other then just useing Common Sense!

PS Turn that fucking cell phone OFF! If you cant see? To bad, deal with it.

i go as far as telling people that are with me to pick up their cigarette butts. the best way to really do it in my opinion if you just want to paint 1 or 2 panels is just double bag your cans in some plain old plastic grocery bag and just put a few caps in your pocket. and youre good to go. and of course do follow the all the points that Rustofills brought up. dont paint over any numbers or reporting marks on the cars. and last but not least dont paint over the reflectors i belive this can be another dead give away for workers/bulls. good luck

[Jessica920102010]

I came here to leave my mark ! _________________twin screw extruder (http://www.extruderschina.com/)

[I_fell_off_the_bike]

in to be cool

[bloodsweatxylene]

I skimmed through these pages and didn't see anything about storage for graffiti supplies.
An extremely good idea if you don't want to end up with some serious problems is to keep any of your supplies containing any chemicals in a tote box or a crate with a lid. I didn't even realize how bad these chemicals reeked until I started storing them, almost adapting to the smell.

P.s. Don't leave your respirator near your chemicals or any strong subtances for that matter, even a smoky room or else the cartridges will absorb all of such and become useless/harmful.

[Pew_Pew_Pew]

What if you respirator gets wet. Left it outside one night and it rained.

I used it since then and I don't smell paint.

[AJ1er]

I went to the spot at around 4:00 pm. The cans I used were Quick Color from Home Depot at 0.99 each. I guess I got what I paid for because the whites were really shitty. The black seemed to work fine on the other hand. I also haven't really done graffiti before so I didn't test to see how the caps would work. I used an astro fat caps for the fill and the outline and the fucking paint leaked all over my hand. I took pics. If anyone is interested on how the shitty paint looks just ask.

real writers dont buy paint... step ur racc game up... lol

[Rustofills]

What if you respirator gets wet. Left it outside one night and it rained.

I used it since then and I don't smell paint.


As long as your filters are dry, then you are fine. Infact it shouldnt matter if the filters are wet. But you might want to get new filters and swap them out. If the ones you have on it now are older? Then you stand a real chance of mold growing in them. Which can be worse for you then fumes if its aload to grow inside the filter.

Just saying.

[Pew_Pew_Pew]

Thanks rusto...good to know.

[eelsone]

i often get headaches after a piece
and a very dehydrated mouth
which masks are the best, im guessing the 3M ones
any tips?
oh and if i buy a 40 dollar mask, if i maintain it correctly how long will it last me

[Pew_Pew_Pew]

Sounds like you suffer from dehydration. Among other things if you're inhaling the mist.

I'd invest in the mask, you can replace the filters and it should last quite a while with proper storage.

It's worth your health for sure.

[eelsone]

thanks for the intel

[SignONE]

word, thanks for the info guys, i woulda bin fucked if i didn't read this, i've been painting for about half a year now and i would never have worn a mask, i didnt even think of it, and i rarely wear gloves, i'm definetly hitting up Wal Mart to buy a mask. Oh, and will i need gloves if i use a paint gun ?

[Pew_Pew_Pew]

Paint gun?

[Rustofills]

i often get headaches after a piece
and a very dehydrated mouth
which masks are the best, im guessing the 3M ones
any tips?
oh and if i buy a 40 dollar mask, if i maintain it correctly how long will it last me


http://www.envco.com.au/files/imagecache/product_page_image/MO-DAL-8111.jpg
http://www.envirosafetyproducts.com/images.php?product_id=776&thumb=1&width=300&height=300
One of these and a bottle of water. Is what you need.
Also you should eat something before painting.

[bitefight]

how long does filters usely last

[Twisted Toaster]

You can usually find these on sale. Best additional piece of equipment i've bought other than a mask. Its really bright if you need it to be, or like I do, just hold it with the light on in your fist and barely open your knuckles to let just the slightest bit of light out every so often when you need to see whats coming up in your way. For those extra pitch black nights walking rough terrain under a bridge, ect. batteries last a long time too.
http://www.aawsales.com/assets/images/m2a016.JPG

[.........]

does anyone know of a good but small respirator? are there any the size of those dust masks but that actually work for paint? I never bother to bring mine just because there's no room for it and paint in my bag

don't tell me to get a bigger bag because then I'd just bring more paint

[esar71]

does anyone know of a good but small respirator? are there any the size of those dust masks but that actually work for paint? I never bother to bring mine just because there's no room for it and paint in my bag

don't tell me to get a bigger bag because then I'd just bring more paint

they have dust masks which are a little better than the basic ones, but those are not going to filter the fumes or chemicals from the paint. As far as I know the one's shown in the earlier post are the smallest I have seen.I could be mistaken. I never used to use a mask but now I do and I must say it's much better. If your bombing streets obviously you can't but for freights or wall work it's the move. I have heard writers who painted in the tunnels allot say they think years of exposure to the fumes and chemicals has effected there health. Why chance it.

[Rustofills]

how long does filters usely last

That depends on how much you use the mask and under the conditions you use the mask in. If your painting in tight or inclosed space's all the time. They will last you at very least 20 to 30 hours of total painting time, before they start to fail. If you mostly use them in more open area's. They can last you over a 100 hours total painting time.

I have had a few masks. I found that ones like the 3M up there are best for the money. Dosnt mean you need that exact one. Just one like it in design. You want it to pretty much stick to your face.

You will over time notice what a dying to dead / bad filter is like when you can smell the paint or you cant breath in or out as well as you were able when the filters were new. Pretty much If you can smell the paint strongly. Its time to change the filters.

That 3M model. --- I have one now and the very first time I used it. I was using chrome paint for about 2 hours. I didnt once notice the smell untill I took the mask off. I felt pretty happy about that. As so many times I have walked away from one of those times when the paint just sits in the air around you and floats down slowly and almost puked from coughing and gagging with a airway full of paint particals.

Basically im stating the obvious. If your going to be standing in front of something for more then 3 minutes spraying paint? Wear a mask if you can and if you have to run. TAKE THE FUCKING thing off your face right away. So you can breath while you running your ass off. If you dont you will be just rebreathing your own carbon dioxide. Thus resulting in you getting less actual air in your lungs. Resulting if you lossing your ability to breath well and feeling all the effects from that. Then resulting in your ass being cought.

[esar71]

That depends on how much you use the mask and under the conditions you use the mask in. If your painting in tight or inclosed space's all the time. They will last you at very least 20 to 30 hours of total painting time, before they start to fail. If you mostly use them in more open area's. They can last you over a 100 hours total painting time.

I have had a few masks. I found that ones like the 3M up there are best for the money. Dosnt mean you need that exact one. Just one like it in design. You want it to pretty much stick to your face.

You will over time notice what a dying to dead / bad filter is like when you can smell the paint or you cant breath in or out as well as you were able when the filters were new. Pretty much If you can smell the paint strongly. Its time to change the filters.

That 3M model. --- I have one now and the very first time I used it. I was using chrome paint for about 2 hours. I didnt once notice the smell untill I took the mask off. I felt pretty happy about that. As so many times I have walked away from one of those times when the paint just sits in the air around you and floats down slowly and almost puked from coughing and gagging with a airway full of paint particals.

Basically im stating the obvious. If your going to be standing in front of something for more then 3 minutes spraying paint? Wear a mask if you can and if you have to run. TAKE THE FUCKING thing off your face right away. So you can breath while you running your ass off. If you dont you will be just rebreathing your own carbon dioxide. Thus resulting in you getting less actual air in your lungs. Resulting if you lossing your ability to breath well and feeling all the effects from that. Then resulting in your ass being cought.
It's funny you mentioned about feeling good about your 3m mask after the 1st use. I also have that exact mask. It is the 1st one I have had from that company and I also felt that for some reason I was breathing really well with it as opposed to the last few I have owned, and I have owned a bunch because I use one at work as well at times for fiberglass resin. This one I got at the end of the last summer and I use it 3-4 times a week. I changed the cartridges once and am just about due for a change now. Just started to notice the paint smell last night. Bump 3m. Pretty reasonable in price as well. 71

[Vapid]

I have a 3m mask and its the tits. i just cant seem to find spare filters.. any suggestions?

[Rustofills]

If its the same as the one posted up top. I found replacments at ACE hardware. But I know for a fact the Homodepo carrys them as well.

[eviltrailer77]

Google that shit! No but really, if you have the model number or series of mask handy it should ba a breeze, you should be able to find a wholesaler/retailer by looking thru auto body supply, or industral supply sites. Barring that, check the 3m website. Trouble is that the manufacturer usually only sells in bulk. So you might have to pick up a case. I just rack mine from work, so I have no idea how much it will run you, sorry.

Bump running from the cops and forgetting to take yer mask off, felt so dumb afterwards. Thot I was having an asthma attack, and I don't have asthma...:D

[Rustofills]

^^ been there done that. lol

The filter replacements were marked like 20 bucks.

[EON 352]

i know this will sound kind of stupid but.

ive tried to figure it out but I can't for the most part.

what are the pros/cons of Flat and Gloss enamel paint?

i know that gloss holds up better to elements somewhat better than flat. and flat covers more quickly than gloss.
im not too sure about the rest.

[HUMAN HUNTER]

i dont piece so when i rock a hollow or a tag i just hold my breath hahaha

[Rustofills]

i know this will sound kind of stupid but.

ive tried to figure it out but I can't for the most part.

what are the pros/cons of Flat and Gloss enamel paint?

i know that gloss holds up better to elements somewhat better than flat. and flat covers more quickly than gloss.
im not too sure about the rest.


Your question should be in the SPRAY PAINT THREAD. As its not a question of safety as much as its just a general question about paint.

But.

Gloss is normally a thinner paint then Flat paint. BUT NOT IN all cases.

With so many brands and types of finish's out there. This fact is not always true, varying by brands. In short you should notice more often that gloss paint is more likly to have drips if you move to slowly. Again I say NORMALLY.

[EON 352]

yeah this got put in the wrong thread on accident.

[InfraRed]

Has anyone experienced nerve damage from direct skin contact with Rustoleum?
I emptied 5 or 6 cans of Rusto without gloves a couple of days ago and I've lost feeling in the tip of my finger.

[eviltrailer77]

HA! that's the dreaded "freeze finger" its not nerve damage, its from the propellant. Its literally frost bite on the tip of yer finger. It will go away in a while. MAN UP!!

[InfraRed]

Frostbite, shit. By "it will go away in a while", you must mean the end of my finger.

[yonly]

i was thinking reading this thread id see somthing about being safe about not getting caught up for doing graffiti...
pretty simple :
dont do graffiti near your own residence or places you confront often(i know its hard but its a bad price to pay when they do surveilence and find out where u live.
ALSO leave NO evidence ANYWHERE in your house especially.. (keep it hidden in a box in your garage)
and cover your face when you go bombing!
no evidence noconviction people!!

[captinfook]

ab those masks tho them big resporators get mad hot and they work GREAT out side and amust inside . but i think a regular nusince mask would b good. lighter way mor easy to tote around and just as effective

[Rustofills]

hmmmmm

[REZM]

Paint gun?

haha that boggles my mind too.

That 3M mask looks cleean! I need me one of those, anybody know how much they go for?...exact...well not an estimated price.

[9WoN8eR]

haha that boggles my mind too.

That 3M mask looks cleean! I need me one of those, anybody know how much they go for?...exact...well not an estimated price.

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1vZ1xhm/R-100653900/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

[sanuk]

advice,

for the organic vapor cartridges: To really make them last put them in an air-proof and sealed plastic bag like a ziploc bag. This is because it isn't the paint fumes already in there that degrades the cartridges but air passing through from keeping them exposed.

man at the hardware store convinced me of this.

[CAN-KILLER]

^^
If you've had rainbows come out your nose then I suggest a respirator.

It's always better safe than sorry.

looks like i need a respirator lol!

[ReackOne]

Wearing a mask is very important...
Also wear gloves. Also check which way your cap is pointing before spraying.
I once had a can of silicone grease in my hand and I didnt notice cap was pointing at me (lol)
so I got grease all over my hand and some on my shirt good thing I wasnt spraying in front of my face.

I just got a respirator few days ago. Do you think its any good?
Heres the link: http://www.monstercolors.com/product_info.php?products_id=91

[YungGrasshopper]

Yeah thats pretty legit... Its better than not having one. I say just take saftey precautions first. Safety first. Not trying to be a safety guy here but im just saying. I dont wanna paint a raw ass piece and next day im coughing up blood. Gotta think

[ReackOne]

^^ Well you wouldnt be coughing up blood, but you could get some kind of nose/sinus infection.

[simon_kenton]

lol i love this it make me thank of one time lol


i was on the line checking out shit when this old lady came out of no were whit a can of cheap paint .
i was like yo you write too
she said yes and pulled out her poeitry book and was reading it
i took her paint and hit the trian
she got so piss and yelled am for tagging whit her high
that shi was funny

[RiSE-DvS]

You can usually find these on sale. Best additional piece of equipment i've bought other than a mask. Its really bright if you need it to be, or like I do, just hold it with the light on in your fist and barely open your knuckles to let just the slightest bit of light out every so often when you need to see whats coming up in your way. For those extra pitch black nights walking rough terrain under a bridge, ect. batteries last a long time too.

Oh yeah! I totally forgot about lights.

I got one of the head-lamp things that has a strap and you can wear it on your forehead/wrap it around your hand. It has 4 settings - small spotlight, small floodlight, spotlight with floodlight, and red LED. The red is the best for night because it doesn't destroy your night vision like white light does.

[RiSE-DvS]

does anyone know of a good but small respirator? are there any the size of those dust masks but that actually work for paint? I never bother to bring mine just because there's no room for it and paint in my bag

don't tell me to get a bigger bag because then I'd just bring more paint
Check this out... It's almost exactly the same size as a dust-mask but filters aerosol paint.

http://approvedgasmasks.com/msa-affinyUltra.htm

And here's a link to see all different sizes and types of masks, from something the size of a surgical mask all the way up to the full-face ones with a shroud over your head and air tanks on your back.. lol... that would be hardcore.

http://approvedgasmasks.com/images/evo1000emt.jpg
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA AWESOME I WANT ONE

[ReackOne]

http://www.graff-city.com/product_info.php?products_id=146

Molotow pocket mask:

http://www.graff-city.com/images/pocketnew.JPG

It has FFP3 filter, so it protects against dust and aerosols.

[RiSE-DvS]

Man, I never knew they made such tiny respirators... Really makes me think of replacing my bulky North 7700-30M.

The only issue I have with the smaller ones is that they're pretty much toast once you go through a couple cans of paint. Of course, this depends on where you're painting, what the weather is, and how close you're standing to the wall but in general I don't think these would last me through one of my entire 8-hour ventures...

I also found some tyvek chemical suits on that site that are dark forest camo...
http://approvedgasmasks.com/images/sfsuitpro.jpg
I think I'm gonna grab a bunch of those to throw on over my clothes when I'm out. During summer it's not so bad because I wear a t-shirt and I can just wash the paint off my arms but in the winter I wear a coat/jacket and my sleeves get covered.

Plus with those tyvek suits you can just tear 'em off and look like you never touched a can of paint, without wasting a bunch of money for ripping it and leaving it in the bushes. Plus, if someone calls the cops to tell them someone is painting with camo on, they'll pull up and see you wearing regular street clothes then they'll keep going and leave you alone.

I actually can't think of any cons to having one except that it's kind of a hassle to put it on and take it off over and over but that can be avoided by just unzipping it and tying the sleeves around your waist.

[ReackOne]

The only issue I have with the smaller ones is that they're pretty much toast once you go through a couple cans of paint. Of course, this depends on where you're painting, what the weather is, and how close you're standing to the wall but in general I don't think these would last me through one of my entire 8-hour ventures...



Actually, they last for about 48 hours of painting before having to throw them out...

[ReackOne]

They seriously need to start making xylene and propane free spraypaint

[ReackOne]

Here are pics of my respirator:

http://oi52.tinypic.com/ta0mtf.jpg
http://oi55.tinypic.com/2w4mhqp.jpg

[RiSE-DvS]

is that a fucking sock on it?

And they do, as far as I know. There's that Blubber stuff which I'm almost 100% sure is practically edible (not that you'd want to eat it though) because I've seen some pros using it indoors in small rooms without a mask and a room full of people.

Also, there's that Plutonium G and Montana 94 too.

BLUBBER -
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4086/4840908149_0a184456a0.jpg
PLUTONIUM G -
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3281/2999014950_069edf4324.jpg?v=0
MTN 94 -
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3320/3443964673_35c4215687.jpg

[ReackOne]

is that a fucking sock on it?



Heh heh... its not a sock. It came with the respirator. If you wear it for longer time with out the ''sock'', it gets really uncomfortable around your mouth, because its rubber, rubbing against your face.
But the ''sock'' makes it more comfortable to wear even if youre wearing it for ages :lol:

[RiSE-DvS]

Oh I see. I only wear mine when I'm actually painting so it's usually under 5 minutes at a time unless I'm just at a chill place and fucking around I might wear it for 10-15 minutes I guess...


Wouldn't it compromise the seal between the mask and your face though? If you cover the out valve and blow out do you feel air leaving the mask?

[Aerosoul]

What kind of gloves are good to use Latex or Mechanical ones that are flexible?

[ReackOne]

Oh I see. I only wear mine when I'm actually painting so it's usually under 5 minutes at a time unless I'm just at a chill place and fucking around I might wear it for 10-15 minutes I guess...


Wouldn't it compromise the seal between the mask and your face though? If you cover the out valve and blow out do you feel air leaving the mask?

nuh.. its really thin and it doesnt break the seal man...

[ReackOne]

What kind of gloves are good to use Latex or Mechanical ones that are flexible?

use the nitrile gloves

[RiSE-DvS]

use the nitrile gloves
Yeah, I second this. Get the nitrile powder-free.

What happens with the latex gloves is that the latex molecules end up getting soaked up by the powder and then the powder transfers it to your skin and over time you can develop a latex allergy.

Also, with ANY powdered gloves, the powder acts like sandpaper if you wear them a lot and it ends up making your hands really sore and tender. It fucking sucks.

So stick to nitrile powder-free gloves. They come in all kinds of colors, and black is my preference (cuz they look cool!:D )

[ReackOne]

wouldnt the xylene eat through latex?

[RiSE-DvS]

No idea... I never really wear them for too long. I just do the piece, take em off and toss em. I always use a new pair for every piece I do because I don't want to get paint all over myself from putting dirty gloves in my pockets.

I know that it doesn't make much of a difference (if any) within 10 minutes of the xylene based shit getting on em, but I don't really wear dirty gloves longer than that or keep em to check afterwards.

[Raven907]

as far as respirators go i got this idea from my friend he always wears a Monster baseball cap and when we would go inside buildings he would push his cap into the hood of his jacket/hoodie and then you couldnt even tell it was there so im sure you could hide a respirator in your hood. . . just an idea though

[cutthroatcommittee]

lol walkin around town w/ a respirator isn't suspicious at all

[JBernie]

lol

[Hikari]

as far as respirators go i got this idea from my friend he always wears a Monster baseball cap and when we would go inside buildings he would push his cap into the hood of his jacket/hoodie and then you couldnt even tell it was there so im sure you could hide a respirator in your hood. . . just an idea though

True, though I'm a total toy at the moment, due to only, what, 5 days of practicing. Yet I got my respirator, some latex gloves, german outlines (100pc for 15$) and some NY Fats, just to get me started.

It's safer, and feels better this way. Though I got one mere question. When you done writing something, are the "smells" harmfull as well?

Thing is, where I live they are not only the biggest snobs ever, but also extreme christians, so I was having problem to keep my profile low. It seems like they had nothing else to do, but to be all paranoide spying outside their white house windows.

So I thought of this way to hide my respirator, in my hoodie. It worked, though you got to have a nice baggy hoodie to do it. The tight ones won't work, since it would look not only weird, but doesn't hide it well.

They don't even notice it, which is awesome for me, but bad for their walls, hehe. Nah joke, I don't write on peoples houses, just on some industrial factory walls, which I have clearance for.

It was never a problem to be allowed a wall to write on, but it's a problem that the uptight snobby extreme christians here call the police, even when I told them I have clearance for it...

Oh well, just get my hoodie out and hide this shit in :P

Also, nice to meet you all, I just joined so...

[purehatecrew]

Why are you hiding anything if you ruining some legal wall?

[eddietaylor09]

nice interesting and very informative post, thanks for sharing.
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[numero051]

I know this has probably already been addressed but I don't have time to go through a bunch of pages to find it.

What's the best respirator filter for spraying that's also going to block asbestos/lead from all these old buildings I paint in?

Thanks in advance!

[a mutant rancor]

You will only have an issue with asbestos if sheets of it have been broken up and are friable with the fibers become loose and airborne. Not sure for lead but if you wear a recommended respirator from this thread you should be fine, your not spending an extended amount of time exposed, unless your there all day everyday...

[numero051]

Thanks!!

If anyone is in Long Island I have paint for sale, pm me.

[SEVO713]

damn i didnt know how fucked up paint fumes can be... i use to wear gloves but never a mask..i thought you'd olny need that if your painting a piece & etc... i remember one time i painted for a long time .. and by the end of the day i was light headed and sick as fuck. im gonna start useing gloves & wear a mask now... might not look "cool" but pissing blood and haveing bladder problems is not the way i want to die.

[Lew Blum]

ATTENTION: PLEASE HELP MAD ESC.KD.WH.NSF WITH HIS FIGHT AGAINST CANCER.


http://madvscancer.bigcartel.com/

Here's a link to a site that's taking donations for this cause. They're also looking for artists to donate work to be sold off. 100% of the profits will go toward helping MAD battle this terrible disease.

Please donate whatever you can and spread this message to everyone you know. Thanks.

[ToblerOne]

ive been painting about 5 years now.. and for the past months almost everyday.
ive heard of OG writers getting the "shakes" from inhaling paint
but never knew that paint was that bad on your skin..
i always tuck my cans in my waistband and sometimes it'll get on my stomache.


there are times when im at work in a freezer and i have to pee even though i don't have much in me..could that be a bladder problem?


thanks for this thread freal.
fuckin graff life :(

[toshio nakamura]

Oh how nice! Yes, you don't want to harm your health as you're defacing public and private property. ASSHOLES!

[toshio nakamura]

They seriously need to start making xylene and propane free spraypaint

Nooooo, you need to become a man and stop scribbling all over the walls like a little baby when mommys not paying attention to you. Problem solved.

[toshio nakamura]

ATTENTION: PLEASE HELP MAD ESC.KD.WH.NSF WITH HIS FIGHT AGAINST CANCER


I wonder if he finds hacking up bits of lung tissue as amusing as defacing people's property? Karma is one mean bitch, ain't she? LOL!

[massgraff]

deface property = cancer = profit?

[user unknown]

Hey guys,

what filters are needed for a 3m respirator (7500)? Im in the uk and i think the terms are different than the states.