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raildeviant
11-08-2001, 06:09 PM
Of course we all love what we do in some form or other...but seriously, don't you guys get sick of all this shit ? All the crap we have to put up with, all the drama that everyone bitches about, all the times that could have been spent in the bar instead of the yard (this does not apply to Xide, who brings his OWN bar with him when he hits the yard!!).

I'm just really tired of all the crap I hear out of people's mouths about graffiti....can't everyone just shut the fuck up and enjoy it ? Seriously, I cannot for the life of me understand why so many writers take themselves and what they do so seriously....get over it....its just not nearly as important as many of you have made it out to be. Sure its important on a personal level, but beyond that, in the grand scheme of things, it hardly means shit. If everyone was doing it for themselves like they claim, then all this talking and bullshit wouldn't even exist, but clearly that's not the case.....

so, are you sick of it yet ? Or are you just sick of me rambling like a retard sitting in front of his computer waiting to go to work for another days pay ? Yeah, I thought so too.

xiderock
11-08-2001, 06:34 PM
i was contemplating this very thing saturday nite while laying on the ground at a fr8 spot looking at a full moon in a drunken stupor...

seeking
11-08-2001, 06:41 PM
Originally posted by raildeviant

I'm just really tired of all the crap I hear out of people's mouths about graffiti....can't everyone just shut the fuck up and enjoy it ?

honestly, i dont think people can shut up... so instead i just dont listen. surround yourself with better people and you'll hear more positive stuff. graffiti isnt anything in my life, but its everything... ya know?

masonna
11-08-2001, 07:12 PM
i am totally down with what you're saying here. all the graf kids i know here in atlanta, with very few exceptions, are cool as fuck, and it was hanging out with them that first got me interested in getting up. but what i think is the major difference is the fact that we are all a bit older and have long since realized that competition is no longer an issue. it's not about beef with other writers and name dropping and calling the new guy a 'toy'. it's about getting out in the city or the yard with your boys and doing your thing and having fun while you do it. i have a strong suspicion that the majority of kids who post here are something-teen whiners, living at home with mom and dad. "hope my mom doesn't find my black book" type bullshit coming from kids who are at an age when high school cliques are the most important things in a person's life. reading some of these posts, seeing a newbie get blasted for wanting to learn something new about his interest is almost enough to put me off of graf forever. thank god i have down to earth friends in the game to keep it real. it's not like any of us are curing cancer here. when it comes down to it, we write our names on a fucking wall without the owner's permission. so to a lot of people here, get off your high horses (you're not ANY fucking cooler than me because you have posted 1,500 times), shut the fuck up with the trash talk, and go out there and paint. remember why you do this shit in the first place.

imported_DIBS
11-08-2001, 07:32 PM
Originally posted by seeking innocence


honestly, i dont think people can shut up... so instead i just dont listen. surround yourself with better people and you'll hear more positive stuff. graffiti isnt anything in my life, but its everything... ya know?

yes'sir,im with brother seeking, in so many ways grafitti is who i am,and all at the same time grafitti is the farthest thing from me.positive people are important to surround yourself with in all aspects of your life,i personally dont know/hang out with many grafitti writters,mostly the few people i learned with(like seeking)and a couple people ive met along the way,but for the most part i avoid other writters in general,specifally because of the drama it carries(even on 12oz i mostly avoid grafitti topics and only talk bikes and music,see bicycletas).grafitti defines so much of how i look at the world and the people i know or meet.sometimes this is a great asset and at others its a great burdon.grafitti makes me cautious of all people i meet,and how close to them i can become,grafitti gives us all the oppurtunity to live a very strange double life.some people,the writters i do associate with and my closest most trusted friends know what i do and who i am.but for the other 80% of the people i know, the secret is locked up never to be told.that at times is a stress i wish i didnt live with.that along with the other dangers of grafitti,cops,near death occurances,money,dangerous people/heroes in the night,etc.but then grafitti gives us the oppurtunity to see and experience things normal people dont ever get to see,like xiderock mentioned,laying down in the yard starring at the full moon,or the quiet that consumes a city at 3 or 4 am,your heart raccing because of a close call with the law as your hidding,letting you know what it means to be alive,to really live.most people dont really live,but part of grafitti is getting out there and really experiencing life first hand.i woulndt trade that for anything,the experiences that ive been a part of i will never get sick of.

holy shit,did i just write all that,coffee,blame it on the coffee.

cmeup
11-08-2001, 08:05 PM
i hate how i draw so fucking much in class when i need to be paying attention. it seems i do my best work when im angry or suppost to be doing something else. it bothers me that i draw in class though cuz i know im messing with my future.

the thing i like most about graffiti is the originality of it, the whole aspect of creating it, and most of all, not everyone can do it. sure people can do art in other aspects....but most cant do the best, which is graffiti.

ibteaser<~

bigguy
11-08-2001, 09:57 PM
hear what your saying. some time s graff can be so damb dpressing with toys in yards...and graffiti politiks can get overwhelmingly retarded.

imported_graffitiSUX
11-08-2001, 10:05 PM
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what do you think?

fiberoptical
11-08-2001, 11:10 PM
My take is this...alot of people wil come and go out of graff..so I don't pay too much attention to them.There impact on me is very little.Ihave my crew...some of still paint, some moved on to other things.The rest of the graff world can eat a dick, really.I am an old man now..I got fucked with the other night by johnnie law..and he is all you are how old?..and doing this shit....blah, blah...and for a while I was like, no shit..grow up..but then after the unpleasant memory faded, I felt like a writer again.I am pretty open with it..to most people and I enjoy letting them in on it...helping them understand what it is we do, why , and what it means, to us and them. I also think hope for the day it goes back to the
hands of the few. After this long, I can sit by and watch, and take part in all of the BS..knowing that where I stand with it, can not be changed.
I will be old and gray catching scribes in payphones.beleive that.
left hand side.
Love to hate it.

--zeSto--
11-08-2001, 11:47 PM
to paraphrase CLOWN TITS...

"the best thing I ever did was stop being a 'writer' and just be a guy who paints on walls."

that's my mantra too.

imported_DIBS
11-09-2001, 01:23 AM
Originally posted by --zeSto--
to paraphrase CLOWN TITS...

"the best thing I ever did was stop being a 'writer' and just be a guy who paints on walls."

that's my mantra too.

one of the best quotes i've heard in some time.

(ence
11-09-2001, 01:46 AM
not even bruh...i love graffiti, its just too much fun

raildeviant
11-09-2001, 04:36 AM
I'm lucky enough to have met a lot of super cool cats throughout my time in this graffiti game. I'm also surrounded by a crew of very skilled and very positive writers, more than that, friends.....

I just don't understand why some writers make a big fucking deal about what they do, who they are and where they are going with it...I just wanna grab their skull and shake the shit out of it and tell them to get over it....we haven't started a revolution, haven't saved the world from the forthcoming extermination of it all.....haven't even helped an old lady cross the street. It's incredible how seriously people take themselves....life is far to short to live like that.
No doubt most of the kids I'm talking about are just that, kids. They have so much to learn about life, and about how fitting in isn't the end all of existence. Yet I listen to a lot of older guys who still bitch and try to act hardcore as if they were 15 years old....its really quite pathetic.

That CLOWN quote was on point....I wish more people would take his words to heart. I feel much the same way as he does, and I love it when the kids tell me I'm not a writer because I don't bomb like they do, don't scribble where they do.....because I have never EVER wanted to be a writer....i just wanna paint with the crew and friends and enjoy this while its still around. nuff said.

cornelius
11-09-2001, 04:50 AM
ok ok... stop it.... you're gonna make me cry... it's just so wonderful... makes me feel all warm and fuzzy inside...

imported_ILYSH
11-09-2001, 05:33 AM
every fuckin day

Verk
11-09-2001, 11:44 AM
I get sick of graffiti, especially when dudes are just pissing me off, the only thing graffiti has made hard in my life, is I got caught once, and it says im an active gang member on my record even though im not.FUCk i also get sick of writing when!! Im sick from the paint coughing it up and shit i got to get a mask

iCEBERG
11-10-2001, 12:15 AM
this thread is depressing

Southern kid
11-10-2001, 12:50 AM
may be depressing but he's right. when i was 'coming up' [i still am in many ways] i was way too serious about this shit. i used to throw things when i wouldnt get it right and i used to bitch constantly when i couldnt go paint. yeah sure you take graff away from me all i am is a professional loser..but damit..graff's all i've got to stand out from the rest of society. i constantly check myself..make sure i'm not going at things too seriously. i think there's a point of fun and a point of addiction. question then is...where are you?

iCEBERG
11-10-2001, 01:40 AM
so true so true.

Nic Thamaire
11-10-2001, 02:23 AM
Sometimes i do,,
but i just cant stop!:mad:

hypochondriac#1
11-10-2001, 03:27 AM
Lately i have just lost all motivation to go out painting or skating or anything. I think about why i waste my money on paint (i dont rack, cos i got caught for it) for such fleeting happiness. My blackbook is gathering dust, my close friends are all getting caught, I hate all the shit that goes with writing, egos etc....its all bullshit

ctrl+alt+del
11-10-2001, 03:49 AM
yeah, i do. i am right now. i dont have that many people to paint with so when me and my "friends" plan to go out the night before and i call them the next morning and they say dont feel like it , it really pisses me off and makes me want to quit graff alltogether and get rid of all my friends and only talk to girls. but of course that doesnt work because girls are even more treacherous.:confused:

imported_just~someone~else~
11-10-2001, 07:00 PM
Originally posted by raildeviant
because I have never EVER wanted to be a writer....i just wanna paint with the crew and friends and enjoy this while its still around. nuff said.
exactly...it's about doing what you want to do, not doing what other people do...

tue skinny
11-11-2001, 05:05 AM
of course i get sick of it. im not as good as alot of writers so there fore i really dont dream about it everyday. i do try and i know one day i will be up there but for now its not the hole world to me.

charlie dundar
11-11-2001, 05:21 AM
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Pone156tfo
11-11-2001, 06:44 AM
I've seen some valid point discussed here. However as I grow older in this Graff Game I think that as long as you keep an even balance with all the other shit in your life and tune out the haters and negitivity you'll be aiight and not get burned out. What it cums down to is everything in moderation or at least for me.
I myself would rather skip the corny bar scene and listen to spoken word, mc's, jazz ect.

Peace love and Deodorant;)

aztek4two1
11-11-2001, 09:26 AM
Originally posted by xiderock
i was contemplating this very thing saturday nite while laying on the ground at a fr8 spot looking at a full moon in a drunken stupor...

oh boy.

this is what life is all about.

--dwayne wayne--8.9%alcohol

taper
11-12-2001, 04:31 AM
nope that answer your question? hope so idiot...

raildeviant
11-13-2001, 05:55 PM
who's the idiot now ?

17reasonswhy
11-13-2001, 07:22 PM
think about this.........every time you get tired or bored of the grafflife scene do this............go take a walk or a drive by yourself to somepleace you have never been..think about the first time you saw any element of graff.....remember?....look around.......see if you see any graff at all....if you do then go and look at it and think about where it came from and why is it there.......if you don't see any then drop a quick tag/etch/throwie/hollow/pickupaturdandsmearyername...etc.......just do anything.......................................... .................................................t he point is this......graff is dependent upon every writer everywhere at every level........everytime an established writer calls it quits, we need fifty toys to take their place with the hope that one out those will push the graff boundaries even further........graff is a pool that is constantly evaporating......it is our duty to make sure the well never dries up....every little molecule we put into that pool contributes....sometimes people drop truckloads at one time....sometimes a glass a month.....sometimes spit and piss.........but everything counts..... i understand that the game has low points that make it real hard to see the good.....but persevere raildeviant and come out with the firehose......:idea: :idea:

dukeofyork
11-13-2001, 10:58 PM
graff can get old...everyone talking shit about so and sos shit looks like another guy...
so and so is ill but only does this....
so and sos shit always looks the same..
get over it



and leave me alone while youre at it...

Esai
11-13-2001, 11:13 PM
No shit!!!!!! Graffiti egos and drama is a bunch of pussy ass bullshit, so many heads need to really get checked. But instead of becoming one of these bitches, check youself. To me there are a few guidelines I follow:
Respect for yourself and others, humility is a must, avoid the bullshit

Stolen Land

drutagsalot
11-13-2001, 11:48 PM
ya i get sick of it at times. i think we all do. i hate having to explain graffiti to people becuse when they see it or hear me talkin about it there all "ohh graffiti, thats bad it vandalism. dont do that". i hate tellin em its not bad, i know its vandalism but thats a risk i take, and i will do it becuase i want to...... becuse i have to.... because i need to. Either your on the outside or the inside, and if your outside youll never fully understand why.... youll never get it. On the inside your different, u get y we do it and y we want to. Thats somethin only we can experience.
peace out...

--zeSto--
11-13-2001, 11:52 PM
you know what always reminds me of the good side...

a huge throw done with a fatcap on an otherwise blank wall.
If the can control is there, and lines cone nicely, I feel like it the first time.

raildeviant
11-14-2001, 05:34 AM
i'm sorry, i think there is some confusion here. it appears as though you guys think i'm some depressed writer ready to throw his graffiti career down the tubes while he ends it all in front of a speeding freight train. nothing could be further from the truth. first of all, there is no graffiti career to speak of. i think that's fucking retarded, personally (hats off no doubt to the very few who make a living off of their skills).
As much as I enjoy graffiti, i could care less about it in the end, because i don't even consider it that, its just its own thing...kinda hard to label with one word. i am honored to know some of the talented people that I do, and the times that i paint with them and others is not about graffiti this or graffiti that, it's just about doing it because it gives you that feeling, that fix that you just can't shake. i'm not a writer, or even a toy like many think, because i don't even recognize that ideology. my whole point was to illustrate the fact that i think its time for a lot of the "writers" out there - of every size, shape, and form - to get their heads out of their asses and realize that their gay-ass fantasy is over. its funny. the end.

Gnes 37
11-14-2001, 06:18 PM
im quittin tommorow

imported_! Hoes Get Sex !
11-14-2001, 07:04 PM
I didnt read most the comments but the first one. I've been writting for over 10 years, yea i get sick of the bullshit, the gossip whores and the dick jockers. I write cause i love doing it. When at graff shows or partys i sometimes try to bring a friend who doesnt write 'cause it keeps me grounded. I look at most writers are scumbags(not all). Hey we write on walls and its a game. Dont take this shit to seriously.

imported_SecretAgentX9
11-14-2001, 09:13 PM
i myself am a hasbeen, so i dont really worry about this too much anymore.
but i definitely hear what you are saying, mr. deviant, and completely agree.
say word to poutine and keep it rilla.