Freights are not classic rock, hardcore, or metal

[L.RonHubbard]

i saw that someone said something about this somewhere and i would just like to clarify that it is very untrue, and that whoever said that is probably a redneck.

[imported_SecretAgentX9]

HiPHoP$$$$$$$$

[BIG T]

REDNECKS RULE!!!!!!!!
and another shout to all my white trash brothers out there!!:D :D
fr8s are all about country music!:lol: :mexican: :lol:

[dukeofyork]

fr8s are whatever you want to make of them.
i wouldnt say they are hip hop, id honestly tend to agree that they are classic rock...
its all about some skynyrd..
:king:

[Average White Railfan]

You tell em' brother T.
White Power and Freights forever! All who believe can push PWT crew
PoWhiteTrash in

the 2g2 you varmits!

[my sweetheart, the drunk]

freights are just the warm lights that pour all over me...please leave you shitty beats in the car, we'll keep ramblin'.

[L.RonHubbard]

i didnt say freights were hiphop my man, but they arent cracker owned either. i prefer to believe that just as many people who like hiphop paint freights as do inbred chowderheaded hillbillies.

[BIG T]

Originally posted by L.RonHubbard
inbred chowderheaded hillbillies.

i's like the sounds of that!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D :D
PWT! wut fool!

[L.RonHubbard]

bwaaaaahhh!!!!

[imported_EL MASKO]

Turn to Johnny Rebel for this one.

[boogie hands]

freights are steel containers used to transport goods inexpensivly.....homos

[snafuno]

Graffiti is not hip hop!!! Ask Lady Pink!!!
graff is but a position, on a rectangular piece of steel architecture...




find a style then get a name biotches!!!!!!!!!!

[I_Love_Freights]

WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOP.

Snafu called it..

"Its my lucky day bitches..."

[Mako]

no no, its all about opera

[graf-freely!]

i do but undersand about graf not being hip hop but at the same time i dont understand the negativity towards this subject!


props to all the people whos address is a licencse plat!!!!!!!!!!:D :D :D :D :D :D :D

[dukeofyork]

Originally posted by L.RonHubbard
i didnt say freights were hiphop my man, but they arent cracker owned either. i prefer to believe that just as many people who like hiphop paint freights as do inbred chowderheaded hillbillies.

dude, you really have no idea what the fuck you are talking about...
most people that write like hiphop to some extent, and while some of the older heads around here ACT like rednecks sometimes, they arent...
just who are you referring to when you are making vague generalizations about freight painters?

[imported_FLiPWriTeR]

man, whoever sayd graffiti aint hip hop, doesnt know shit. you may know how to spray clean lines of paints on fr8's and walls in some wild style that everybody jocks, but if you say graffiti aint hip hop, nigga you AINT no writer! just remember when you let that paint come out of that can, you are hip hop!
and to my knowledge, it IS one of the elements of hip hop nigga!!!payce

[imported_xhobox]

Originally posted by FLiPWriTeR
man, whoever sayd graffiti aint hip hop, doesnt know shit. you may know how to spray clean lines of paints on fr8's and walls in some wild style that everybody jocks, but if you say graffiti aint hip hop, nigga you AINT no writer! just remember when you let that paint come out of that can, you are hip hop!
and to my knowledge, it IS one of the elements of hip hop nigga!!!payce


ignorant? shoot yourself in the face!

[imported_FLiPWriTeR]

yeah mr homo, hobo,, how is that ignorant.. when you get your shit str8, holla.. :lol:

[Mr.LonelyHeart]

In my humble opinion....

painting graffiti on freights is simply american.
america is a huge nation...and freights are the tie that bind so to speak...freights are an integral part of our nation's history... they are everywhere
...and the fact is that in one situation you could associate freights with hip hop...in another with country music...another with rock...another with narcocorridos...another with booty bass...etc. etc......
but I think if you feel the need to associate the freight movement with one type of music then maybe it should be the most american form of music of all -jazz






(and not to exclude our neighbors to the north or south...you're a part of it as well....but freights are just plain AMERICAN):king:

[Boring Bastard]

Originally posted by Mr.LonelyHeart
In my humble opinion....

painting graffiti on freights is simply american.
america is a huge nation...and freights are the tie that bind so to speak...freights are an integral part of our nation's history... they are everywhere
...and the fact is that in one situation you could associate freights with hip hop...in another with country music...another with rock...another with narcocorridos...another with booty bass...etc. etc......
but I think if you feel the need to associate the freight movement with one type of music then maybe it should be the most american form of music of all -jazz






(and not to exclude our neighbors to the north or south...you're a part of it as well....but freights are just plain AMERICAN):king:



Good man..... those damn Canadians sure are some savages on fr8's though........ The ones I know sure aren't cornball hip-hop geeks either!

[elquilser]

id have to say trains are blairing spainish music

[Ski Mask]

Originally posted by FLiPWriTeR
yeah mr homo, hobo,, how is that ignorant.. when you get your shit str8, holla.. :lol:

you gonna say that shit to the face of some oldschool subway painter like Cap, Blade, or Seen? cause I'm sure theyd love to get schooled on history by you....them being un-hip hop and so ignorant of the past and all....



Mr. Lonely Heart hit it right on the head....

[fu]

Originally posted by BIG T


i's like the sounds of that!!!!!!!!!!!!:D :D :D
PWT! wut fool!


white trash born and raised in the inner city ...so i can't spit kick and boogy....

no farm land's for 100's of miles .....and grandpa is a pinche pysa while my grandma picks cotton in kC......and we all ended up in LA....from hawthorne to compton in 1943....yee haaaa holmes...


metal,,hip hop project blowedians....chills vills empire.....

[Beep]

check it our..
If you say "Graffiti" then you mean writing on a wall, no matter if its chalk or pencil....
When it all first took place 12,000 years ago, they didnt have "Hip-Hop", so 30 years ago it was adopted!! YES ADOPTED BY RAP.
Big fucking whoop. Dont forget, there is political graff and racial graff also!! Meanning you cannot steriotype graffiti in to ONE music genere.
The point of this is, who ever, and for what ever reason is drawing/writing/painting, the music that inspires them is what moves them!! THE ARTS ARE NOT OWNED BY ANYTYPE OF MUSIC

[boogie hands]

you know what i think....i think there should be more aurguing about if graffiti is hip hop or not....its really interesting and not a tired subject at all....

[fu]

Originally posted by boogie hands
you know what i think....i think there should be more aurguing about if graffiti is hip hop or not....its really interesting and not a tired subject at all....

hey can't argue with that>>>

[Vanity]

i like hip-hop, soul, and jazz. some old rock is cool (zappa), and i can even dig some classical and punk.

supposedly i'm hip-hop though... whatever tha means. i could care less what frieghts 'are'

kids on here take shit too seriously... why call someone on their ignorance when it's easier to just laugh?

[Handjob]

Originally posted by FLiPWriTeR
man, whoever sayd graffiti aint hip hop, doesnt know shit. you may know how to spray clean lines of paints on fr8's and walls in some wild style that everybody jocks, but if you say graffiti aint hip hop, nigga you AINT no writer! just remember when you let that paint come out of that can, you are hip hop!
and to my knowledge, it IS one of the elements of hip hop nigga!!!payce

Dude, you're totally the guy that hangs out on Asian chat lines...

nerd...

[imported_suburbian bum]

Okay everyone!!!!!

Yes i did invent that and had it as my signature for a while......
And yes I am a cracker, yes I am a redneck.

And yes in no way am I "hip-hop"


And yes, I was kinda jokeing but it still holds true that frieghts arnt hip hop, they are classic rock and old school metal.

[imported_suburbian bum]

And dude, dont take shit so seriously.

Thats just what it is to me, in reality, freights are freights.

Hey mayby for somepeople freights are the pokemon theme song...

[imported_hooliganz]

haha trying to associate graffiti,or any kind of visual art with any kind of music is ridiculous,they`re two totally different art forms,independent and able to exist without the other. coexisting depends on personal tatse.if you like hip hop fr8s are gonan be hip hop to you,if you like bluegrass fr8`s are gonna sound mighty bluegrass to you.trying to prove that your personal tatse in music is right and the way everyone should see/hear is futial and you will be laughed at.

[imported_FLiPWriTeR]

oh! im that guy. yeah sure, whateva. go and beat yourself handjob. i agree that graff cant be related to any music genre. But for those who say graff aint hip hop, your 'dead wrong'. so your saying that there are only three elements of hip hop now..?? go ask yourself that question. you can write and listen to whateva music you want, just remember about that third element,,,,beyoootch! peace.

[BIG T]

FILP you are acting really dumb right about now... i think you need to enhance your calm, and think how dumb you sound.... there was no hip hop when the modern day graffiti thingy started so how on earth could it be related??????? if you can answer that one with a half way decent answer i might just read the whole thing!:D :D :rolleyes: :D :D :D

[imported_FLiPWriTeR]

no one said hip hop was around when graffiti was happening in the late 70's and early 80's. It was adpoted into hip hop.. (it was made an element). does that answer your question. all im trying to get across is that graffiti is an element of hip hop regardless of what music you listen to, so it dont matter what you listen...payce

[cAzer]

yea i would be stoked to hit that train but it is kinda odd to have that train in a chill ass spot, but dont sweat you should be psyched that you saw that ill ono freight there....

[Cracked Ass]

Originally posted by cAzer
yea i would be stoked to hit that train but it is kinda odd to have that train in a chill ass spot, but dont sweat you should be psyched that you saw that ill ono freight there....

This is the most relevant post yet on this stupid topic.
______________________________

[BIG T]

Originally posted by FLiPWriTeR
no one said hip hop was around when graffiti was happening in the late 70's and early 80's. It was adpoted into hip hop.. (it was made an element). does that answer your question. all im trying to get across is that graffiti is an element of hip hop regardless of what music you listen to, so it dont matter what you listen...payce
sorry i got to the 2nd line of it and realized you a fuckin stupid ass.....

[snafuno]

your right!!! I'm not a writer I am an artist! everyone who participates in defacing public or private property is some sort of artist! wheather it be a scribble, a line, a word, moniker, character or shit stain it resembles art. Now the catagory in which it is label is another stoory. So all this hip hop or rock'n roll madness is just what the artist is inspired by or prefers. I think if back in th 70's if graffiti was adopted by slayer and some butt rockers the same issue would arise and graff would suuposedly be rock'n roll....I would just like to know what in the hell is hip hop???that word or phrase is thrown around so loosely nowadays that everything is hip hop???? I would like an intelligent response to this please!!:confused:

[Average White Railfan]

everybodys got there opinion of the realtionship of hip hop and writing.
allow me to shed some light on a subject i discuss often with members of the "hip hop" community. writing a name continously with ink or spray paint was born in philly around 1966. it began to catch on in nyc independently around 1969. by 1975 writing was a new unique culture
akin to nothing else in the history of mankind/except maybe hobo sketches which date back to the great depression, perhaps even further/
MCing a party (hosting a party using clever snappy rhyme schemes to introduce other performers) did not become popular until the late 70's. maybe 78 or 79. break dancing became a lil more popular around this time as well. even at this point it was still pretty confined to uptown neighborhoods. no body was walking around talking about hip hop this an hip hop that. combining the three "elements" was something that was created in hollywood for the most part. but even in the movies about hip hop there is some reflection of the truth. you didnt see iz the wiz and quik breakdancing in style wars. in beat street there was one kid who wrote, one kid who did the music and one kid who, broke (thats the past tense of break..dance that is). it wasnt some elemental all in one super b-boy who did all three. yall need to get off that hip hop started writing shit for real cause its false, straight up and down. hip hop may have introduced writing to people outside of nyc but it is NOT responsible for the birth of writing. writing was around for years as its own culture before henry chalfant and tony silver brought it to the world.

furthermore the three words to which our culture is usually assigned (writing, graffiti, artist). the last two are terms were given to the culture by people who did not write. from jump we called ourselvs writers. we didnt become "graffiti artist" until outsiders started naming us...until we became one of the 3 "elements" of hip hop. thats when it became more important to make pretty pictures as opposed to getting up/when we became artist and longed for acceptance by the public. so we had to be considered artist. to all the writers out there...writing is just writing/not an element of hip hop, not a form of fine art where the end result is to be accepted in th art world and the public. i think skeme said it best:
i didnt start writing to go to paris, i didnt start writing to do canvases i started writing to bomb, destroy all lines"

[kasmoney]

f8s are heavy and made of metal....yo yo yoyoyoyo yo yo yo...honey seen me jumpin out the money green truck!


oh yea 215 ..whut yaa knoe bout dat?...PHILADELPHIA!

[imported_FLiPWriTeR]

couldnt have said it better myself..thanks averagewhiterailfan,,youknowyourshit...
IT did becomepart of hiphop//

[fu]

Originally posted by Average White Railfan
everybodys got there opinion of the realtionship of hip hop and writing.
allow me to shed some light on a subject i discuss often with members of the "hip hop" community. writing a name continously with ink or spray paint was born in philly around 1966. it began to catch on in nyc independently around 1969. by 1975 writing was a new unique culture
akin to nothing else in the history of mankind/except maybe hobo sketches which date back to the great depression, perhaps even further/
MCing a party (hosting a party using clever snappy rhyme schemes to introduce other performers) did not become popular until the late 70's. maybe 78 or 79. break dancing became a lil more popular around this time as well. even at this point it was still pretty confined to uptown neighborhoods. no body was walking around talking about hip hop this an hip hop that. combining the three "elements" was something that was created in hollywood for the most part. but even in the movies about hip hop there is some reflection of the truth. you didnt see iz the wiz and quik breakdancing in style wars. in beat street there was one kid who wrote, one kid who did the music and one kid who, broke (thats the past tense of break..dance that is). it wasnt some elemental all in one super b-boy who did all three. yall need to get off that hip hop started writing shit for real cause its false, straight up and down. hip hop may have introduced writing to people outside of nyc but it is NOT responsible for the birth of writing. writing was around for years as its own culture before henry chalfant and tony silver brought it to the world.

furthermore the three words to which our culture is usually assigned (writing, graffiti, artist). the last two are terms were given to the culture by people who did not write. from jump we called ourselvs writers. we didnt become "graffiti artist" until outsiders started naming us...until we became one of the 3 "elements" of hip hop. thats when it became more important to make pretty pictures as opposed to getting up/when we became artist and longed for acceptance by the public. so we had to be considered artist. to all the writers out there...writing is just writing/not an element of hip hop, not a form of fine art where the end result is to be accepted in th art world and the public. i think skeme said it best:
i didnt start writing to go to paris, i didnt start writing to do canvases i started writing to bomb, destroy all lines"


breaking it down...man that was it..no more stupid topics..for the ones that need info
this will pretty much answer any question that arises in that little inmatrue graffiti mind of yours.(new,old,ignorant,stupid,curious). in this cultrue,hobby,rush,addiction...or what ever the reason u do it..

once again average white....once again...

[STOLENGOODS]

id have to say writing has no connection with any kind of music..
its roots are older than hip-hop and punk rock/metal so there goes that idea
and if being down with some sort of scene is your only reason for writing then
pick a new hobby
writing isnt a brotherhood, it isnt a scene
its something we do to help us forget about all the other crap in our lives
and for those few hours we have total control of something...
it amazes me when i hear kids from some back ass suburban town talking
all ghetto trying so hard to be something they arent...
how does painting your name make us any tuffer?
lets all stash the egos and be proud of who we are

[imported_joewelcome]

damn....
this is an interesting thread, but it's pretty dumb to argue over.

what i'm saying is- go into a yard and a layup, look at the dirt and debris on the ballast. check out the nasty old trains, rusty and incapable of being clean. dust covers everything, no matter how clean the paint is. understand this, and realize that in such a funky environ
(the real meaning of the word 'funk'= filth, stink) that real greasy funk music fits perfecty. and that can be Dyke & The Blazers or James Gang. Thin Lizzy or WAR; The Meters or Black Sabbath. it don't matter how the guitar is used, as long as they put the soul into it. that's all i got.


(btw- i love punk, metal and hip hop as well as the real, pre-1973 funk joints)

[dukeofyork]

oh fuck yea!!!
the james gang...


cant fuck with that.

[kasmoney]

who said bling bling?