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spade561

08-12-2005, 11:21 PM

Originally posted by NeRVe54+Aug 9 2005, 02:26 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (NeRVe54 - Aug 9 2005, 02:26 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>before you put in your ink, paint, or whatnot, burn every other spot on the top so it almost makes it like a claw. know what im sayin? then fill it, then stuff your eraser in. the grooves should hold it well.
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thanks, ill try that. :king:

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i was browsing this thread the otehr day and saw something about the jumbo pilots at ups stores. confirmed. i dropped by one today on my errands and picked up a pilot broad for $3.59
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would i lie?

maybe, but not this time :innocent:

spade561

08-12-2005, 11:25 PM

Originally posted by wase+Jul 30 2005, 04:57 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wase - Jul 30 2005, 04:57 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-MuKiS@Jul 27 2005, 08:46 PM
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6441/jumbo9hs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
qot 1 of dese 2day any know how 2 open em up ?
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to open it...u turn the top part to the right instead of the left. if you dont know what imean by top part...its the white part under the cap..just twist it to the right.
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where did you find that and how much was it? and do you have to change the nib or does it work the way it is?

chumbawumba

08-13-2005, 06:55 AM

It's a Zig Glue Marker, you can get it at craft stores or find it easily on the internet. The nib is really big - I reccomend you look into Leeho glue markers. Also, it's fine the way it is - you keep the nib and just gut it out. Leeho's are longer and slimmer, the nib is a little smaller - just right for my taste. You can find them cheaper then any store on the internet - buy both and give em' a try.

casekonly

08-14-2005, 06:36 AM

Originally posted by spade561+Aug 12 2005, 07:21 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spade561 - Aug 12 2005, 07:21 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by NeRVe54@Aug 9 2005, 02:26 PM
before you put in your ink, paint, or whatnot, burn every other spot on the top so it almost makes it like a claw. know what im sayin? then fill it, then stuff your eraser in. the grooves should hold it well.
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thanks, ill try that. :king:

<!--QuoteBegin-casekonly@ Today, 02:31 PM

i was browsing this thread the otehr day and saw something about the jumbo pilots at ups stores. confirmed. i dropped by one today on my errands and picked up a pilot broad for $3.59
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would i lie?

maybe, but not this time :innocent:
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haha. i was just confirming for the others.

you're not from fba are you?
if you are, we've spoken, if not...cool.

wordsworth

08-15-2005, 03:59 PM

is it me or wen u use mineral spirits and use silver rusto buket paint and put it ina shoe polish bottle and u press down for the paint to go trew the sponge the sponge gets super fat and soft and falls apart???????

feat burn

08-16-2005, 04:16 PM

can somebody elp me out ere. a wanna know whats the easiest way to make a mop??

casekonly

08-17-2005, 05:36 AM

Originally posted by feat burn@Aug 16 2005, 12:16 PM
can somebody elp me out ere. a wanna know whats the easiest way to make a mop??
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read!

assflea

08-17-2005, 06:00 AM

i made the ill bombing device:
first i filled a paint bucket with amonia then i took a water baloon poked a little hole in it and covered the hole with a 1" x 1" sq of duct tape. i filled it ( the ballon with bleach till it was bigger that the bucket and set it on top of the bucket and left it in my schools gym. then school was canceled for 5 hole days. and that bitch gym teacher went into a coma. lol

joking kids have fun dying. lol

feat burn

08-17-2005, 11:11 AM

gis a link or summit man?

assflea

08-17-2005, 07:04 PM

ok on the real

i have aquired my first mini wide (im a mop man usualy)
and i have yet to flood it (im gana use krink i think with a little brake fluid)
and i put my nib in and have noticed a large gap on both sides of the nib.
that aint right, right? should i use alittle shoe goo on it or leave it be?

help me obie-won kanobi you my only hope...

thanx
-zoinx

spade561

08-18-2005, 02:18 AM

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haha. i was just confirming for the others.

you're not from fba are you?
if you are, we've spoken, if not...cool.
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FLA SON! haha. not fba. sorry, see: 561...thats from lauderdale to palm beach!

oh and thanks for the lue pen info chumbawumba (sp?)

spade561

08-18-2005, 02:19 AM

i had one of those letter wetter things today and went to use it and the cap was melted looking and i tried to take it off and the top had melted onto the whole thing. can someone tell me why? inside was paint and thinner if that helps. and is there a way to prevevnt this?

shai hulud

08-18-2005, 06:16 AM

Originally posted by spade561@Aug 18 2005, 02:19 AM
i had one of those letter wetter things today and went to use it and the cap was melted looking and i tried to take it off and the top had melted onto the whole thing. can someone tell me why? inside was paint and thinner if that helps. and is there a way to prevevnt this?
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don't use those! they are a waste of time, i think. as far as melting, certain solvents are going to melt plastic no matter what. xylene seems to be the most stable, acetone the least. you'll see.

shai hulud

08-18-2005, 06:19 AM

Originally posted by master bait@Jul 31 2005, 01:25 PM
to remove the matter from inside the marker is quite simple really:
it usually comes out if you beat the fucker against the table. if you don't understand, try to imagine a monkey trying to get a peanut out of a bottle. the money would hold the bottle upside down and make jerk-off gestures to remove the peanut. You must do this with your marker, but more properly. and against the table
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that is the funniest analogy i've ever heard and true. solvent helps, also. tables always help during masturbation. you don't know? now you know.

shai hulud

08-18-2005, 06:26 AM

Originally posted by assflea@Aug 17 2005, 07:04 PM
ok on the real

i have aquired my first mini wide (im a mop man usualy)
and i have yet to flood it (im gana use krink i think with a little brake fluid)
and i put my nib in and have noticed a large gap on both sides of the nib.
that aint right, right? should i use alittle shoe goo on it or leave it be?

help me obie-won kanobi you my only hope...

thanx
-zoinx
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where the fuck did you get a mini? i've got cash on it
if you got the real deal...let me know.

just use ink. no tricks. no krink, no brake fluid. maybe some xylene.

that gap is supposed to be there. it acts as a vent, so you can squeeze it and make the ink come out. leave it be. seriously, i'll buy one. tell me tell me tell me.

fat cap

08-18-2005, 07:28 AM

u can get nibs anywher? all sizes?

assflea

08-18-2005, 09:29 PM

Originally posted by shai hulud+Aug 18 2005, 01:26 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shai hulud - Aug 18 2005, 01:26 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-assflea@Aug 17 2005, 07:04 PM
ok on the real

i have aquired my first mini wide (im a mop man usualy)
and i have yet to flood it (im gana use krink i think with a little brake fluid)
and i put my nib in and have noticed a large gap on both sides of the nib.
that aint right, right? should i use alittle shoe goo on it or leave it be?

help me obie-won kanobi you my only hope...

thanx
-zoinx
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where the fuck did you get a mini? i've got cash on it
if you got the real deal...let me know.

just use ink. no tricks. no krink, no brake fluid. maybe some xylene.

that gap is supposed to be there. it acts as a vent, so you can squeeze it and make the ink come out. leave it be. seriously, i'll buy one. tell me tell me tell me.
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i bought the last one here in boston at our graff store.
ill get the address and send it to you.
they are kinda pricy though $ 8 or $9 or some shit.
yah the krink sucks now i need a new nib lol.

should i use marsh or some shit? pigment will not flow all that good most likely but what if i mix white pigment with garvy?

NeRVe54

08-19-2005, 06:22 PM

yo zoinx, could you hit me up on the address for that graff shop

shai hulud

08-20-2005, 02:38 AM

^^^you might have gotten the last one, but, let me know if they reup.
check this out-[attachmentid=20153] found the mother lode....try garvey- bought this today- it's black. i'm stoked.

spade561

08-20-2005, 11:30 PM

i know this doesnt involve a marker, but im wondering what other people use to scratch mirrors/glass. like to etch into them. and no i dont mean using etch bath. i used a 9 volt that i found the other day a few times, but its kinda smoothed out now and doesnt work. until now i havent tried. i figure a cheap CZ would work, but is there something cheaper?

AKTIN OUT

08-22-2005, 08:30 PM

Well i had never tried a mop before i just stuck to pilots and shit like that but i bought a kiwi "salt line remover" from london drugs the other day...filled er up with ink and BAM! that shit is phat as hell....form now on its me a zig and a mop BIATCH
peace

toxus

08-24-2005, 11:43 AM

ok heres a mini marker i made with a lid
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/toxus/minimarker.jpg

NeRVe54

08-24-2005, 03:45 PM

i like that. whats it a ban roll on?

panakeii

08-24-2005, 06:37 PM

spade561

Ceramic fuses from old fuseboxes.
Broken glass from autos.
Drill bits from Dremel tools.

spade561

08-25-2005, 03:25 AM

Originally posted by panakeii@Aug 24 2005, 02:37 PM
spade561

Ceramic fuses from old fuseboxes.
Broken glass from autos.
Drill bits from Dremel tools.
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wow! thanks a lot. anywhere i could find old fuses? like specifically without breaking anything that i dont own. luckily i have a dremel! :king:

panakeii

08-25-2005, 11:39 AM

Check out hardwarestores, they have
a tendency to stock those suckers.

flip words

08-28-2005, 01:10 AM

well i got a jumbo pilot marker now and i bomb wherever i go and shit but im kinda braindead when it comes to making the pilot drip. dont you have to take the cotton shit inside of the marker out so the ink can have a better flow or something? or maybe i could flare the top too, huh...someone help me out. i just want more drips with my pilot broad. oh yea, toxus, that mini mop is fuckin sick. what container did you use and lemme know if it leaks while carrying it around and shit. thanks.

flip words

08-28-2005, 01:11 AM

oh yea where could i find some garvey? im feindin for some good ink and i have a good feeling about that garvey shit. mix that in with some brake fluid, dump it in my mop and mmhmm...we goin bombin tonight :D

spade561

08-28-2005, 04:36 AM

Originally posted by flip words@Aug 27 2005, 09:10 PM
well i got a jumbo pilot marker now and i bomb wherever i go and shit but im kinda braindead when it comes to making the pilot drip. dont you have to take the cotton shit inside of the marker out so the ink can have a better flow or something? or maybe i could flare the top too, huh...someone help me out. i just want more drips with my pilot broad. oh yea, toxus, that mini mop is fuckin sick. what container did you use and lemme know if it leaks while carrying it around and shit. thanks.
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as far as i know you cant make it drippy unless you take out the cotton and use your own ink. the cotton holds the ink so if you took it out then it would have like nothing in it. and flaring the nib doesnt help either. youll just ruin it. pilots are good for clean stuff, but i think that drippy tags that are that skinny look bad and are hard to read. :yuck:

shai hulud

08-28-2005, 06:36 AM

[attachmentid=20572]

just made a new batch of mops...made a flourescent yellow opaque color today. never seen anything like it...to the guy who wanted garvey, pm me- i wouldn't put brake fluid in it, it stains fine on its own. if you ever get it on your hands, it will take at least a week for it to fade. i'm gonna finish my bottle and try some of the new ish out...

flip words

08-29-2005, 12:05 AM

thanks

shai hulud

08-29-2005, 04:21 AM

hey, flip, check your pm's.

shai hulud

08-29-2005, 04:32 AM

i just remembered...you can make a pilot drip- pour a few drops of xylene and a lot of ink into the body. the catch is, you have to store it with the tip up or the ink will dump out, and the pen will dry out faster. fuck it, use a flow pen or a mop if drips are what you want...it's a lot easier.

smellycunt

08-29-2005, 11:17 AM

sorry if this has already been asked but when i chuck the chalkboard eraser in a mop or anything else, how do you keep it from pushing in?

spade561

08-29-2005, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by smellycunt@Aug 29 2005, 07:17 AM
sorry if this has already been asked but when i chuck the chalkboard eraser in a mop or anything else, how do you keep it from pushing in?
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dont slam the mop onto the wall...but seriously, it depends on the kind of mop. if its a kiwi, either roll it up thick and be gentle, or melt the top until its pliable and make the opening smaller. this is true with pretty much any plastic mop. somepeople say super glue, or hot glue. i try to stay away from super glue because it wont ever completely dry unless theres no ink in there and hot glue dries and then rips out of place if you have a violent cough. basically, just make sure its in thurr nice and snug.

shai hulud

08-30-2005, 01:38 AM

[attachmentid=20655]

hey spade, i got your pm, and it's here....and, to anyone else who's interested in garvey, pm me. operators are standing by....

smellycunt

08-30-2005, 07:15 AM

sorry to ruin your business but i dont think garvey is that great, its good to give a tinge of a colour to your stainer ink but its not that great as a stainer alone

toxus

08-30-2005, 07:49 AM

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/toxus/smokebombmarker.jpg

smellycunt

08-30-2005, 11:43 AM

man this may sounds dumb, but what sort of chalkboard eraser do you guys use? i racked one from my school the other day but i dont think its the same as you are suppose to use, its like a sheet of fabric with sponge on the inside of it. a picture would help aswell

thanks

vomit

08-30-2005, 02:43 PM

i've been using dippers for a long time now, almost always with inks, but im getting really anoyed by the fact that they break (tear off) so easily....
i've tried putting cloth around it, extra glue etc etc, but all i end up with is a dippermarker that doesnt write as good/ drip as nice....
does anyone have a suggestion???
maybe just a picture on how you solved it...if you don't want the world to know how just PM me

panakeii

08-30-2005, 02:57 PM

I've seen people using round pieces of
copper mesh with the sides bent upp a
bit and then epoxied to the inside of
the mop to hold the nib, but it seems a
bit insecure due to nasty inks having a
habit to dissolve glue.

vomit

08-30-2005, 05:14 PM

i dont entirely understand, i'm not a native english speaker...i speak english pretty well, but im not really familiar with technical names for things;
round pieces of copper mesh...???
picture anyone?

panakeii

08-30-2005, 06:51 PM

Copper Mesh (http://scrappinextras.com/mesh-copper.jpg)

Something like that.

metropolitanmayhem

08-30-2005, 11:41 PM

how do i make like artline tempras or otr minis or poscas drip? someone help me out havnt found it yet on the thread

shai hulud

08-31-2005, 12:27 AM

Originally posted by smellycunt@Aug 30 2005, 12:15 AM
sorry to ruin your business but i dont think garvey is that great, its good to give a tinge of a colour to your stainer ink but its not that great as a stainer alone
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what do you recommend? i'd like to try some of THAT...i use garvey based on ten years of experience, and i like garvey for the effects... it does different things on different surfaces. plus, i don't know anyone else who makes a purple ink that's permanent. seriously, if you have something better, i want to know about it.

vomit

08-31-2005, 01:19 AM

well i can help you with that....just take a mix of purple corio, some blueish purple diablo, and just ad a touch of black ink, i like corio myself, but garvey or grog will do fine. a drip of breakfluid and an even smaller drip of rubbing alcohol (makes it stay wet, so if they paint over it, itll come through again) and you have unbuffable ink presto...(extra stuff like tonerpowder and such don't hurt either....)

but still dont get the copper mesh though, and how to attach it....

shai hulud

08-31-2005, 01:37 AM

Originally posted by vomit@Aug 30 2005, 06:19 PM
well i can help you with that....just take a mix of purple corio, some blueish purple diablo, and just ad a touch of black ink, i like corio myself, but garvey or grog will do fine. a drip of breakfluid and an even smaller drip of rubbing alcohol (makes it stay wet, so if they paint over it, itll come through again) and you have unbuffable ink presto...(extra stuff like tonerpowder and such don't hurt either....)

but still dont get the copper mesh though, and how to attach it....
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i thought he was referring to a stock ink....i have a blend that i don't feel ready to share here yet. that blend does sound pretty strong, though....i don't really understand the purpose of adding brake fluid. i've done it myself, and didn't notice any change for better or worse- toner does flatten ink out well, though. plus, i can't get corio in the states. i've heard it's similar to montana ink. i've seen some weird shit online but most of the sites that carry stuff i've never heard of (and therefore would like to try ) are in swedish or italian, and since i'm a dumb american, i can't read them and google won't translate some of them. i am planning to get some grog, though. if it's what it claims to be, i may stock it, but i need to see it to believe it. and, yeah, copper mesh? what's the story?

vomit

08-31-2005, 09:02 AM

breakfluid it a pretty heavy corrosive...doesnt work on plastics, but work really well on paints and metals....especcially metallic car (trucks!!) paint

but still no extra help on the copper mesh or other tricks to lengthen the lifespand of a dipper

vaderone

09-01-2005, 12:07 AM

"has anyone heard of the deoderant marker?"

ya its a simple marker but works pretty well.

get an empty deoderant contanier.wash it out real well.porr some glue in the bottom and let it dry really well.

all you have to do now is get a dry erase earaser dealy and rip it off the carboard.thats you nib.fill the container with whatever ink youd like.shove on you nib and youre ready to rock.that deoderant lid works great as it is.saty up.

metropolitanmayhem

09-01-2005, 08:09 AM

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y5/courtorder/b05260b3.jpg
hey can someone help me out, how do i make my marker do shit like this or what kind

_nightcrawler

09-01-2005, 11:12 AM

hey can someone please tell me how 2 make a artline tempara marker drip?

shai hulud

09-01-2005, 12:06 PM

Originally posted by vaderone@Aug 31 2005, 05:07 PM
"has anyone heard of the deoderant marker?"

ya its a simple marker but works pretty well.

get an empty deoderant contanier.wash it out real well.porr some glue in the bottom and let it dry really well.

all you have to do now is get a dry erase earaser dealy and rip it off the carboard.thats you nib.fill the container with whatever ink youd like.shove on you nib and youre ready to rock.that deoderant lid works great as it is.saty up.
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man, that's some flashback shit. i think i made one of these in the 8th grade...didn't work out...reverted to magnums and cheap cans. now, who's gonna break out with the vhs pen tip? will it be me? i'll bet no one's heard of these steez yet...stay tuned. i might just make one to prove that it can be done.

smellycunt

09-01-2005, 12:12 PM

ive already read about the vhs marker on this thread i think
hahahaha

shai hulud

09-01-2005, 12:31 PM

Originally posted by smellycunt@Sep 1 2005, 05:12 AM
ive already read about the vhs marker on this thread i think
hahahaha
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it's one thing to hear about it... it's another thing entirely to see it done- it's pretty awesome. there's also the tupperware pen, too- that's insanity, it's like a drippy foot-wide chisel tip. i have a flick of a white truck with a twist tag done with one of these- i'll look for it after work.

those_faces

09-01-2005, 11:17 PM

well today i tried something new(for me at least)
i took about 3/4 of a deco color out and put in some etch.
im hoping this will work for some nice color etch.
im going out tonight to try that shit so ill let you know. :love2:

love.

those_faces

09-02-2005, 01:18 AM

Also today i bought a kiwi.
im wondering how to take it apart as i havent done it before and dont want to waste 3.50.

love.

panakeii

09-02-2005, 02:59 PM

Nivea Mop

Found a nice Nivea Deodorant, the one that
says "Mild care & natural freshness" or something
like that on the side, and the freshness is there
allright!

Pried the ball out with a screwdriver and found a
pleasant surprise: A plastic "cross" that keeps
the nib from falling into the container.

Show & Tell time kids!

http://members.chello.se/panik/nivea-1.jpg
^^ The deodorant and a cleaning sponge, one third of
the sponge cut off to be used as a nib.

http://members.chello.se/panik/nivea-2.jpg
^^ The deodorant tipped over, check out the cross.

http://members.chello.se/panik/nivea-3.jpg
^^ Sponge folded in two and shoved in a bit, then i
tucked the sides in to get a snug fit.

http://members.chello.se/panik/nivea-4.jpg
^^ And snug it is. I'm holding the mop in the nib and it doesn't come out a bit.

http://members.chello.se/panik/nivea-5.jpg
^^ The original rounded top for the deodorant is a screwtop,
i don't like screwing around with that, i want push n pull action,
so i found a top for a liquer bottle that fitted perfectly on top
so it wouldn't come off accidently.

The best part about this mop is that it is made out of glass,
so you can throw in some really hazardous shit if you want.

panakeii

09-02-2005, 03:02 PM

those faces

Insert a knife under the top part of
the kiwi and push upwards, with some
force it should fly off with a pop.
Don't use a sharp knife though.

Throw in your favourite ink and push
the top in place again, duct tape to
avoid leaks.

those_faces

09-02-2005, 03:18 PM

Originally posted by panakeii@Sep 2 2005, 10:02 AM
those faces

Insert a knife under the top part of
the kiwi and push upwards, with some
force it should fly off with a pop.
Don't use a sharp knife though.

Throw in your favourite ink and push
the top in place again, duct tape to
avoid leaks.
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thanks man
any ink that you recomend more?
im going to work on that today.

love.

panakeii

09-02-2005, 03:41 PM

Kiwis works with most inks, but the deadlier the
better of course. If you are going to use thick
ink (like paint thats not thinned out very much)
you can cut a hole in the side of the peg sticking
out in the middle of the kiwi nib or cut it off
completely, but if you do so please remember
to store the kiwi in a upright position or you will
get a nasty surprise next time you pop the lid off.

panakeii

09-02-2005, 03:44 PM

Gave the nivea-mop a testrun, here's the result:
http://members.chello.se/panik/nivea-testrun.jpg

Bad photo, but to get an idea of the width of the nib
you can compare it to the krinked upside-down A under
done with a ultrawide.

those_faces

09-02-2005, 03:46 PM

thanks for the help.

love.

shai hulud

09-02-2005, 05:33 PM

^and stay away from etch, it's wrong, wrong, wrong...if you HAVE to do it, only on multinational corporate headquarters... never on small businesses. it's a great way to get into the legal system...

_nightcrawler

09-03-2005, 05:44 AM

can someone please tell me how 2 make my artline tempera or on the run mini drip??

metropolitanmayhem

09-03-2005, 06:49 AM

yuup i made a nivea mop about 2 months ago but used chalk eraser for the nib it wasnt bad but didnt drip at all and was messy with the twist lid. what liquor bottle cap u got on there

panakeii

09-03-2005, 10:06 AM

If the nib doesn't drip then push a small knifeblade through
it to maake slits all over the place to let ink flow into the nib,
then you control the inkflow by pressure, the harder you push
the nib the more ink gets squeezed out of it.

That top was from Pisang Ambon, green banana liquor from
Bols, i don't think it's available in the US anymore so just
look for liquor bottles with long tops.

ASPECT

09-03-2005, 10:10 AM

Originally posted by those_faces@Sep 1 2005, 06:17 PM
well today i tried something new(for me at least)
i took about 3/4 of a deco color out and put in some etch.
im hoping this will work for some nice color etch.
im going out tonight to try that shit so ill let you know. :love2:

love.
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i heard that mixing etch with some stuff can make some fumes or somethin that can fuck you up, i don't know if it's true or not but thats what i heard

panakeii

09-03-2005, 10:18 AM

_nightcrawler

Use a thick needle to make small holes right
through the nib, push the needle trough and
move it around in a small circle, i prefer to
place the holes in two rows of this pattern: .'.'.' <- awful illustration.

Then throw your favourite solvent or thinner
in the ink, not more than 5% of the total
amount of ink in the pen though.
Don't forget to pump the nib really good
for drips/splatters,

And yeah, you will probably not get
drips with the temperas original ink.

shai hulud

09-03-2005, 11:45 AM

Originally posted by ASPECT+Sep 3 2005, 03:10 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ASPECT - Sep 3 2005, 03:10 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-those_faces@Sep 1 2005, 06:17 PM
well today i tried something new(for me at least)
i took about 3/4 of a deco color out and put in some etch.
im hoping this will work for some nice color etch.
im going out tonight to try that shit so ill let you know. :love2:

love.
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i heard that mixing etch with some stuff can make some fumes or somethin that can fuck you up, i don't know if it's true or not but thats what i heard
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[/b][/quote]etch bath is hydrofluoric acid. here's a link with info.

RISK ASSESSMENT: USE OF HYDROFLUORIC ACID (http://www.chm.bris.ac.uk/safety/hf.htm)

i wouldn't use this stuff even if you paid me. and, the idea of someone using it who has no idea how dangerous it is is sobering, to say the least. think about etch being to graff the same way steroids are to baseball- of course, there's short term results, but you know it's wrong... plus, you'll get caught someday, and your teammates won't like you in the meantime since you make them look bad too. it's just better to leave it alone, i can't stress that enough. it's done more to hurt graff than further it, since 90% of the time, it's small business owners who get hit....because, generally, people who etch windows don't care about the rules of engagement, like leaving mom and pops alone. and, it usually costs $1500 to $3000 to replace a plate glass window. that's an automatic felony, right there. so, if i haven't talked you out of it by now, please don't bring it up on this thread again. thanks.

smellycunt

09-03-2005, 01:47 PM

Originally posted by panakeii@Sep 2 2005, 11:44 PM
Gave the nivea-mop a testrun, here's the result:
http://members.chello.se/panik/nivea-testrun.jpg

Bad photo, but to get an idea of the width of the nib
you can compare it to the krinked upside-down A under
done with a ultrawide.
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does the nib rip up quickly or does it hold up alright?

CACashRefund

09-03-2005, 03:06 PM

panakeii

09-03-2005, 03:18 PM

I second that, don't put shit into etch. Or etch into shit.
If there was a nonhazardous way to actually color etch
(i.e. get colored etchings, not just coloring the etch itself)
you would se multicolored rainbow etchings allover town.

But you don't.

those_faces

09-03-2005, 04:15 PM

yeah obviously i have enough respect not to hit up small time shit.
im not down with that.
im just lookin to hit some bus stops or something.
and i didnt get to try that etch yet so im not even sure if it works.
im making a kiwi today so i gotta go get the ink right now.
peace.

_nightcrawler

09-04-2005, 06:52 AM

Originally posted by panakeii@Sep 3 2005, 08:18 PM
_nightcrawler

Use a thick needle to make small holes right
through the nib, push the needle trough and
move it around in a small circle, i prefer to
place the holes in two rows of this pattern: .'.'.' <- awful illustration.

Then throw your favourite solvent or thinner
in the ink, not more than 5% of the total
amount of ink in the pen though.
Don't forget to pump the nib really good
for drips/splatters,

And yeah, you will probably not get
drips with the temperas original ink.
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thanks bro. Just did it today. Works perfectly with nice drips.
peace.

toxus

09-04-2005, 12:34 PM

heres a tik tak i just made
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v234/toxus/tiktakwlid.jpg

and yes... its ink less

CACashRefund

09-04-2005, 06:55 PM

how is the nib being held in place?

toxus

09-04-2005, 07:20 PM

iv just shoved it in tightly because i need some ink for it

flip words

09-04-2005, 07:59 PM

well go steal some ink and wreck damage. :D

CACashRefund

09-04-2005, 10:53 PM

Originally posted by toxus@Sep 4 2005, 12:20 PM
iv just shoved it in tightly because i need some ink for it
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If you built it right you can just staple it to the white part, without having ink in it.

shai hulud

09-05-2005, 05:24 AM

[attachmentid=20891]

here's some old pens i found...except for the glass pen they all work. i've had the bolt pen and the ultra for years, unfortunately i lost my mini, though. i'm still looking for it or a replacement.

shai hulud

09-05-2005, 05:35 AM

[attachmentid=20894]

here's some more...these are my favorites- metal bodies and valves, and the black one has a screw on cap. probably made in the sixties or seventies, and they're as good as new. if anyone has any flomaster pens, inks or tips, any size or color, that they'll part with for cash or trade, i'm looking...

deathmetal.

09-05-2005, 06:46 AM

Aleene 2in1 Glue Marker

heres a pic of the marker in its packaging from their website:

http://www.duncancrafts.com/graphics/products/large/187.jpg

i was in a Michael's art store the other day and saw this little gem. cost like 2 or 3 bucks and appeared to have a valve similar to OTR markers so i grabbed one to take home and experiment with. heres a picture of the marker with cap on next to a pepsi can for comparison (this pic is at a weird angle but this marker it a great pocketable size):

http://img157.imageshack.us/img157/6774/p10100066go.jpg

heres a pic with the cap off. the nib was smaller than i had expected but not that big of a deal to me. inside the cap, there is a plastic section that comes down over just the nib, so even if its sitting upside down and some ink drips through the nib, it wont go all over inside the cap.

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/3485/p10100073gb.jpg

this pic shows the seperate pieces of the marker (the nib easily seperates from the plastic but i forgot to pull it out for the pic). when i first unscrewed the plastic part that holds the nib, i was unsure of wether i could get the actual valve part out, but i was able to pry it off as you can see. this makes for super easy filling of the marker.

http://img395.imageshack.us/img395/126/p10100081rc.jpg

this is the finished marker. i ripped the label off, which left a really sticky residue all over the outside and im lazy so i just wrapped a paper towel around it. the glue that comes in it is a light blue and pretty easy to dump out and discard. i filled this up with a homemade ink consisting of pilot ink, dye, brake fluid, and pearl ex. i know that mix isnt going to create the super unbuffable mega ink but thats ok with me until i get some more dank stuff. as you can see the nib juiced up nicely.

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/5480/p10100099jl.jpg

in this pic i just drew some lines to show the width of the nib and how easily you can get controlled drips. i have little experience with OTR markers, but the valve action seems very similar. the nib on this seems to be smaller than the mini OTR's, which is fine with me. id say the line is about the width of 1 finger (give or take).

http://img159.imageshack.us/img159/1779/p10100112sk.jpg

my purpose for this marker is for insides and other places where a mop isnt an easy option and this marker seems to fit the bill perfectly. it holds enough ink (for me at least) and i like how i can dismantle most all the parts of the marker easily. not to mention its not messy and wont empty in your pocket. so far im loving this thing and ill keep you updated on how well it holds up as time passes.

shai hulud

09-05-2005, 08:42 AM

^never seen that one before....it looks like a deodorant till you open it up, and the price is right. i'll have to check it out. thanks.

here's a gem i found...i went to office max a while ago to buy toner for the copier at work, and came across these, believe it or not...

[attachmentid=20897]

it had glass chalk in it, and they had about twenty of them on the shelf. since they were $1.99, i bought a few (on the company tab- thanks, guys) and tried them out. i put some marsh in one and took a walk. it works as well as any other flowpen i've tried. here, take a look...

[attachmentid=20899]

this is with montana on paper. it drips pretty well if you juice it, just not here. the tip is still in good shape after some use, but i don't use pens like this on rough surfaces since i like a clean line for chisel tags. i'd like to find out who distributes these bodies so i could buy them in bulk..i'll have to look into that. it sure beats paying eight bucks for an otr, though, if you're cheap like me and willing to put in the work.

metropolitanmayhem

09-05-2005, 09:16 AM

tiktaks are no good, have you seen how easily those things break the plastic sucks, and will defiantely crack and leak into ur pocket

shai hulud

09-05-2005, 10:01 AM

^yeah, and it seems like it wouldn't seal well unless you hot glue the edges. who knows, if the shoe fits...

smellycunt

09-05-2005, 11:53 AM

on my trip a while ago now i picked a few of those markers with the purple lids up from a store in japan, but it has a black casing(for the ink) and had a japanese label on it, of course, works really well one of the best pump markers ive ever used.

by the way i like that tom jones tag

shai hulud

09-05-2005, 01:22 PM

Originally posted by smellycunt@Sep 5 2005, 04:53 AM
on my trip a while ago now i picked a few of those markers with the purple lids up from a store in japan, but it has a black casing(for the ink) and had a japanese label on it, of course, works really well one of the best pump markers ive ever used.

by the way i like that tom jones tag
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thanks...it's my official 12 oz. tag. he's the blackest white man i've ever seen, for sure.

i think all these pens are made in one factory- kind of like 90% of the bikes from taiwan are made by a couple of builders. i'd give up drinking for a year if i could find the dumpster behind the pen factory...or if they'd send me all their seconds, postage due. we could work it out. i'm ready.

Smack

09-05-2005, 03:31 PM

imma try to get a pic but i went into staples and in the last isle i found the dry erase markers.. buttt the greatest thing i saw was they have tops to put on the markers with the eraser in them.. so its like the nib jus ready to go all u need it an empty bottle/marker to place it on, easily customizable and u can jus glue/tape it together what not, it was 3.99 for 4 big (about an inch circle)tips, and 1.99 for 4 little ones(1cm circle)
just thought id share since its easier then stuffing the eraser felt in the marker lol

Smack

09-05-2005, 03:33 PM

Found em http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/s...roductId=111400 (http://www.staples.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/StaplesProductDisplay?prodCatType=0&storeId=10001&catalogId=10051&langId=-1&productId=111400)

panakeii

09-05-2005, 09:51 PM

I wouldn't drag along tic tac markers
due to the small amount of ink you
can have in them.
It's like those montana "micro" cans
that doesn't last for a tag unless you
use a really skinny cap.

The dry-erasers look nice.

I walked into a random artsupplystore
the other day and found a foam dabber
with plastic handle used for stenciling.
Then i discovered that it had the perfect
size for the holes of some dietary
supplement bottles, got hold of a
chubby plastic pill bottle, ripped of
the lid and threw in the dabber and
it filled almost the whole thing down
to the bottom.

Haven't tried it out with ordinary inks
yet as it sucks up a lot of liquid in
the bottle. Used it a bit for the
thing-we-can't-mention-on-12oz
though and it worked wonders, if
you needed a fatter layer you just
pressed it into the glass a bit
(the foam didn't spread drips all
around the place as i first expected).

Tonight I will try it with krink to
see if the dabber will fall out of
it's handle due to dissolved glue.

http://members.chello.se/panik/stencildabber.jpg
Dabber to the far right. Left pic is flying action once again.
The bottom wouldn't come off even though it was filled.

panakeii

09-06-2005, 12:40 AM

Ok, no update on the dabber vs krink.
Basically it got killed in action but it didn't have
a fair chance as there were unpredicted elements
in action. Although you remember all rules about
chemicals when you tinker about with it in the
kitchen it seems you forget them while on the go.

In this case the rule "never mix **** with anything".
I pressed out most of it out of the dabber and then
poured some krink in the bottle and put the dabber
back, when i was about to pick it up it was boiling
hot and i removed the dabber accompanied by
thick white toxic smoke.

The story ends with me throwing the shit in a
paperbag and wrecking with boiling krink a
couple of minutes before the dabber disintegrated.

It was fun hitting up trucks with tags
that SMOKED for real though.

Smack

09-06-2005, 01:04 AM

yea good look with the "burner" marker lol be careful

death metal i picked up 2 of those today haha tore em apart took out the blueish glue and am about to fill em, there pretty neat with the pump system and what not, imma leave the label so if i get caught haha

also michaels sold this Higgins permanent ink, its a 2.5 oz bottle for 3$ so i figured it was a deal, black, permanent, non washable

shai hulud

09-06-2005, 01:53 AM

Panakeii, that's a crazy story...I've had a couple of those situations happen to me until I remembered what I learned in chemistry class...some things just do not work well together, like rap and metal, for instance....unless you're PE and Anthrax. Be careful, dude. It was funny, though, I'll give you that...especially if you mom or your girlfriend had walked in right then...

"What the FUCK are you doing?!?!?"

"Aw, nothin'..."

That Higgins is waterbased, but it's one of the best. I've heard that it's used for tattoos, so yeah, it's permanent for sure.

Smack

09-06-2005, 02:10 AM

i got the higgeins permanent carbon ink, they had other kids but this one is label eternal so i figured that would last the longest haha, its made by sanford so its gotta be good

shai hulud

09-06-2005, 04:49 AM

Originally posted by Smack@Sep 5 2005, 07:10 PM
i got the higgeins permanent carbon ink, they had other kids but this one is label eternal so i figured that would last the longest haha, its made by sanford so its gotta be good
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I've never heard of that...post a pic, if you can. Carbon ink is the best waterbased ink, by far- sometimes I go out bombing with a carbon ink I made, and it looks pretty good. Sanford definitely makes some good stuff, though. Anyone who came up with the mean streak is aces in my book. If they ever make a refillable magnum, with refill ink, then they'll be even better.

leftandleaving

09-06-2005, 01:05 PM

That marker does look a lot like the OTR's and seems to work the same. Personally my fave marker is an OTR gold paint marker that I refill with ink, the valve lets a lot more ink flow through it than the valve on OTR flowpens so you can get nice drippy tags and the valve doesn't clog up after a while like it always seems to do with the flowpens. I don't know what the situ is like where you are but at my locale I can get replacement nibs where i get the OTR's so this same marker has lasted me a long time I just replace the nib once it wears down, and that way I can keep a nib for rough surfaces and for the smooth shit

Originally posted by shai hulud@Sep 5 2005, 09:42 AM
^never seen that one before....it looks like a deodorant till you open it up, and the price is right. i'll have to check it out. thanks.

here's a gem i found...i went to office max a while ago to buy toner for the copier at work, and came across these, believe it or not...

[attachmentid=20897]

it had glass chalk in it, and they had about twenty of them on the shelf. since they were $1.99, i bought a few (on the company tab- thanks, guys) and tried them out. i put some marsh in one and took a walk. it works as well as any other flowpen i've tried. here, take a look...

[attachmentid=20899]

this is with montana on paper. it drips pretty well if you juice it, just not here. the tip is still in good shape after some use, but i don't use pens like this on rough surfaces since i like a clean line for chisel tags. i'd like to find out who distributes these bodies so i could buy them in bulk..i'll have to look into that. it sure beats paying eight bucks for an otr, though, if you're cheap like me and willing to put in the work.
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flip words

09-06-2005, 07:04 PM

is that marker with the purple tip squeezable? it looks as if the part that holds the ink is plastic so you can squeeze it for drips.

smellycunt

09-07-2005, 08:08 AM

this is the second time ive asked, hopefully someone will answer this time, is there a certain type of whiteboard eraser that works because ive racked 3 different types with different material in it, and ive used 2 of them which sucked

panakeii

09-07-2005, 09:08 AM

shai hulud

Fortunately this happen outside while
on a bombing mission. If i had been
at home i wouldn't even think about
reusing anything i had used för ***.

spade561

09-07-2005, 10:12 PM

Originally posted by smellycunt@Sep 7 2005, 04:08 AM
this is the second time ive asked, hopefully someone will answer this time, is there a certain type of whiteboard eraser that works because ive racked 3 different types with different material in it, and ive used 2 of them which sucked
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NOT WHITEBOARD!!! whiteboard erasers are for toys that cant figure it out..not that im saying youre necessarily a toy, just uninformed...if you're lucky, lots of schools buy blackboard erasers because theyre cheaper sometimes, so you can rack em easy. anyways, heres the link to the kind of eraser youre gonna want.

http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/pro...kOID=1611252571 (http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/product/prodBlock.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&expansionOID=-536905757&prodBlockOID=1611252571)

hope you can find one.

on another note, ive realized that when you replace the kiwi nib with eraser, the size of the mark gets smaller and streaky. so basically, ive decided that its easier to buy the $1 on sale ones at your local grocery store and use them as is with your own ink of course. I know they wear fast, but not that fast. plus, that nib juices up real quick. and gives nice drips and coverage. anyone agree?

shai hulud

09-08-2005, 01:23 AM

Originally posted by spade561+Sep 7 2005, 03:12 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spade561 - Sep 7 2005, 03:12 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-smellycunt@Sep 7 2005, 04:08 AM
this is the second time ive asked, hopefully someone will answer this time, is there a certain type of whiteboard eraser that works because ive racked 3 different types with different material in it, and ive used 2 of them which sucked
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NOT WHITEBOARD!!! whiteboard erasers are for toys that cant figure it out..not that im saying youre necessarily a toy, just uninformed...if you're lucky, lots of schools buy blackboard erasers because theyre cheaper sometimes, so you can rack em easy. anyways, heres the link to the kind of eraser youre gonna want.

http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/pro...kOID=1611252571 (http://www.officemax.com/max/solutions/product/prodBlock.jsp?BV_UseBVCookie=yes&expansionOID=-536905757&prodBlockOID=1611252571)

hope you can find one.

on another note, ive realized that when you replace the kiwi nib with eraser, the size of the mark gets smaller and streaky. so basically, ive decided that its easier to buy the $1 on sale ones at your local grocery store and use them as is with your own ink of course. I know they wear fast, but not that fast. plus, that nib juices up real quick. and gives nice drips and coverage. anyone agree?
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[/b][/quote]I do. I only use shoe polish on on occasion, squeezies are my thing...hey, spade, I need to get that address- get at me!

And, that purple pen does have some give to it.

assflea

09-08-2005, 02:46 AM

ok i cleaned out my mini with thinner (min spirits) flooded it with garvy and i like it but its leaking from the bottom. i quik fixed it with wax but i want a perm fix. any ideas?

CACashRefund

09-08-2005, 03:41 AM

super glue the bottom and then super glue the bottom on the outside and wrap that little epart with electrical tape. Thats how i used to do mines when ihad one.

flip words

09-08-2005, 04:59 AM

can someone please show me one of these minis? ive never even seen one

vomit

09-08-2005, 10:39 AM

i've been using dippers for a long time now, almost always with inks, but im getting really anoyed by the fact that they break (tear off) so easily....
i've tried putting cloth around it, extra glue etc etc, but all i end up with is a dippermarker that doesnt write as good/ drip as nice....I just want it to not tear of the plastic
does anyone have a suggestion???
maybe just a picture on how you solved it...if you don't want the world to know how just PM me

assflea

09-08-2005, 03:35 PM

are you use'n a wedge of eracer to dip in the ink?
or are you talking about the dye wands?

shai hulud

09-09-2005, 06:44 AM

What IS a dipper? Explain, then maybe I can help. Pics help, too.

deathmetal.

09-09-2005, 07:57 AM

i assume they are talking about using the wand thing that comes with Griffin

toxus

09-10-2005, 09:05 AM

how would you make a streaker??

spade561

09-11-2005, 12:38 AM

Originally posted by toxus@Sep 10 2005, 05:05 AM
how would you make a streaker??
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you wouldn't. you would go to office max/depot and pay the three dollars for one...or rack it...but its only three bucks so it would seem kinda gay too. its with the other markers. i barely found mine so look hard. :king:

gren1 bnc

09-11-2005, 01:09 AM

what a useful thread!

NeRVe54

09-12-2005, 12:54 AM

oh totally dood

5iveDee

09-12-2005, 03:25 AM

can you refill a mean streak? I think Im gona rack one tommorow

CACashRefund

09-12-2005, 03:52 AM

You cant refill a mean streak.

vomit

09-12-2005, 10:20 AM

Originally posted by vomit@Sep 8 2005, 05:39 AM
i've been using dippers for a long time now, almost always with inks, but im getting really anoyed by the fact that they break (tear off) so easily....
i've tried putting cloth around it, extra glue etc etc, but all i end up with is a dippermarker that doesnt write as good/ drip as nice....I just want it to not tear of the plastic
does anyone have a suggestion???
maybe just a picture on how you solved it...if you don't want the world to know how just PM me
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Im talking about one of those shoepolish things...http://img.alibaba.com/photo/50097028/Liquid_Shoe_Polish.jpg

and the part that ruptures, breaks off ( the white part in this picture--->>>)https://margaretkimuracosmetics.ourssl.net/catalog/images/KiwiLiquidShoePolish.jpg

shai hulud

09-12-2005, 11:15 AM

Oh...yeah, I call those mops-whatever...and, the tips do that, usually if exposed to solvents or brick walls...that's why I don't use them so much anymore, and stick tothese bad boys... (http://www.officedepot.com/ddSKU.do;jsessionid=00002fJobLzDITlJ2IZs3M1t_3j:10 gghks9k?level=SK&id=503544&Ne=6+1+10313+5+470&Nr=FILTER(domestic)&N=269+10324+4294962259&An=browse)

But, I used to get the round cosmetic sponges and use them as replacement tips...they are a higher grade of foam that holds up well to solvents. Look for them at drugstores...glue 'em on w/superglue or barge cement, them trim 'em down...or, I used to be the asshole who would just steal five valves for every mop I stole. Thought I'd throw that out there.

Those Bluepath pens are the shit since they are actually made for drawing and are smaller, and thus, easier to use. The only catch to these is that the ink or paint that you use can't be too thick, since the valve is smaller and more prone to clogging. And, they're pricey and they are really hard to find in stores, but that link is where I get them from, in a pinch...I've been using them for years, and will often buy a store's entire stock when they pop up. That's a ringing endorsement from a cheapskate like yours truly.

shai hulud

09-12-2005, 11:44 AM

Originally posted by CACashRefund@Sep 11 2005, 08:52 PM
You cant refill a mean streak.
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Ahhhhh....I know how...it's easy, and cheap if you can find the
"refills", but it is easier to replace them 95% of the time.

As far as doing the chemistry yourself, here's a big clue- the idea of a streak is to stabilize paint to work in a range of enviroments. So, the idea is that you have to lowering its viscosity, and then add chemicals to facilitate its use under any conditions. The main additive I know of in streaks is glycol, AKA antifreeze, which gives streakers that sweet smell. Glycol is also an ingredient in brake fluid, coincindentally. I don't really want to go into how to thicken paint here, seeing as how most people won't bother, but there are books about it out there.

Guess all that time I hung out at the paint store paid off...

metropolitanmayhem

09-12-2005, 01:26 PM

shai hulud, your talking about one of those really really thick sponges post a flick of how its attatched to the mop because ive tried on a kiwi and i fuck it up and it gets messy

NeRVe54

09-12-2005, 04:40 PM

you just pull out the plastic piece and push the sponge in. that plastic piece is useless once the origiinal nib is gone. or at least i have always found it to be.

shai hulud

09-12-2005, 07:29 PM

Hey, metro...the sponges I'm talking about are marketed in the states by Mary Kay, and I got them at Walgreens. They're about 2" in diameter, 1/4" thick and they come in a 50 count bag. (File this under Embarrassing Things Your Girlfriend Has You Buy At The Store between romance novels and tampons.) I used a hot glue gun to attach it, then trimmed the edge w/a Xacto knife.

Painters Touch Nigga

09-13-2005, 01:26 AM

ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS WOOD CRAFTS,KIWI MOPS,WINDOW CHALKS,FACEPAINT MARKERS,HIGGINS INK,AND ETCHBATH.....THATS WHAT WE USE DOWN HERE IN THE 305 MIAMI CUHHH...FUCK ALL THAT SHIT YALL NIGGAZ DONT KNOW WHAT WE BOUT CUH

flip words

09-13-2005, 06:41 PM

i thinned out some white paint and put that shit into a mop. are mops easy to clog? cause the paint mixture was still a lil thick, but im sure it wont clog. have any of your guys' mops ever clogged when you put semi-thick paint in there? fuck im used to ink.

5iveDee

09-13-2005, 06:48 PM

Originally posted by shai hulud+Sep 12 2005, 07:44 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shai hulud - Sep 12 2005, 07:44 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-CACashRefund@Sep 11 2005, 08:52 PM
You cant refill a mean streak.
Quoted post
Ahhhhh....I know how...it's easy, and cheap if you can find the
"refills", but it is easier to replace them 95% of the time.

As far as doing the chemistry yourself, here's a big clue- the idea of a streak is to stabilize paint to work in a range of enviroments. So, the idea is that you have to lowering its viscosity, and then add chemicals to facilitate its use under any conditions. The main additive I know of in streaks is glycol, AKA antifreeze, which gives streakers that sweet smell. Glycol is also an ingredient in brake fluid, coincindentally. I don't really want to go into how to thicken paint here, seeing as how most people won't bother, but there are books about it out there.

Guess all that time I hung out at the paint store paid off...
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[/b][/quote]

Cant you just put in some paint and thinner when it runs out?

amne

09-13-2005, 08:28 PM

Originally posted by wase+Jul 30 2005, 02:57 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (wase - Jul 30 2005, 02:57 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-MuKiS@Jul 27 2005, 08:46 PM
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6441/jumbo9hs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
qot 1 of dese 2day any know how 2 open em up ?
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to open it...u turn the top part to the right instead of the left. if you dont know what imean by top part...its the white part under the cap..just twist it to the right.
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[/b][/quote]
that doesnt work, i've got one and i've been trying for days, im about to just break that ho off..

5iveDee

09-13-2005, 11:16 PM

I got one the other day, the white part turns counter clock wise

shai hulud

09-14-2005, 12:44 AM

Cant you just put in some paint and thinner when it runs out?

Nope...you're on the wrong track. You THICKEN the paint to solid form, then add it. Liquid paint would be a mess.

metropolitanmayhem

09-14-2005, 01:34 AM

Shai empty ur message account!

Smack

09-14-2005, 03:11 AM

how can i thicken a marker?? i added jus the ink and its so thing and shitty, will the brake fluid thicken it??

5iveDee

09-14-2005, 03:27 PM

Originally posted by shai hulud@Sep 13 2005, 08:44 PM
Cant you just put in some paint and thinner when it runs out?

Nope...you're on the wrong track. You THICKEN the paint to solid form, then add it. Liquid paint would be a mess.
Quoted post

yea I just got one and I know what you are talking about. What were you guys talking about with the pump system simmilar to otr then?

Fruitcake

09-14-2005, 05:07 PM

okay here goes, i made a huge marker out of plastic parts from my local hardware store, the tubes are 3 inches (7,5 cm) so the tip is has the same width, i only like markers with round tip, they dont sell them so i made my own. There is some foam from an old couch and an old sock in it as the tip, it takes about 200ml of ink for the foam to get all soaked and the reservoir can hold about 300ml of ink. I can take off the top part of the marker if i need to refill, its sealed by a rubberring so no ink can leak out. It doesnot have a pumpsystem because it really doesnot need it, the foam has a lot of ink in it so when you put a little pressure on it, drips will be the result. I use it mainly to tag on trains with some ink (a mix of grog, corio, marsh, gv etc.) and they cant or hardly buff it :D

the marker,
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/9961/p1010013medium1gl.jpg

the result:
http://img142.imageshack.us/img142/927/tagsontrains15medium9cd.jpg

after the buff:
http://img166.imageshack.us/img166/171/tagsontrains274ee.jpg

i am posting this here because i ve learned a lot about ink from the ink recipe superthread :)

shai hulud

09-14-2005, 06:48 PM

That's heavy duty ish right thurrrr.

shai hulud

09-14-2005, 06:51 PM

Originally posted by 5iveDee+Sep 14 2005, 08:27 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (5iveDee - Sep 14 2005, 08:27 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-shai hulud@Sep 13 2005, 08:44 PM
Cant you just put in some paint and thinner when it runs out?

Nope...you're on the wrong track. You THICKEN the paint to solid form, then add it. Liquid paint would be a mess.
Quoted post

yea I just got one and I know what you are talking about. What were you guys talking about with the pump system simmilar to otr then?
Quoted post
[/b][/quote]Exactly. I still want one of those huge Tagline pens, but they sell out before I can order one.

http://www.officedepot.com/pictures/SK/MD/693730_sk_md.jpg

The marsh brush is pretty wild, too.

toggle

09-14-2005, 07:48 PM

first chapstick marker, works pretty alright, lil messy with the cap at times...

http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/toggler/1.jpg
http://i7.photobucket.com/albums/y264/toggler/2.jpg

shai hulud

09-14-2005, 11:24 PM

How well does it work?

panakeii

09-15-2005, 01:50 AM

Fruitcake

Echt lekker! NW NW NW NW all over the place.
Now i need to raid my hardware store as
well, thanks for the inspiration.

Fruitcake

09-15-2005, 03:37 PM

your welcome, they have the tubes in 4 inch or 10 cm also, but thats a bit too much, its pretty difficult to handle and it just uses way too much ink, the 3inch is pretty expensive to tag with allready, so i made a smaller one 2inch also

flip words

09-15-2005, 08:06 PM

ay fruitcake, that marker is one fat mamajama. howd you make the drips look like spider webs? that shit is tight

Fruitcake

09-15-2005, 08:40 PM

i hit the train at the station, the drips that go straight down are from when i ve just put them on and the other ones are from when the train drives away at highspeed, the marker delivers A LOT of ink so it will drip for a while

shai hulud

09-16-2005, 12:57 AM

Do you backjump in A-Dam, or is that just in Germany? Also, has anyone ever puked out of the window of a moving car? It looks like that...

shai hulud

09-16-2005, 12:59 AM

The drips, I meant. :ballcap:

NeRVe54

09-16-2005, 01:00 AM

pretty dope. id like to see some more flicks of that same mop but (no offense) a neater/doper handstlye and with the drips falling straight down. still tho props on a dope pen

Inhalant

09-17-2005, 03:14 AM

don't need huge markers just paint it!

Fly Hortons

09-17-2005, 03:45 AM

im not sure if this has been asked or answered before cause theres so much shit in this thread, but its there anyway to get ink out of a polit marker to go in another marker? thank you

CACashRefund

09-17-2005, 04:16 AM

You can get pilot ink. And put it into whatever you want.

Fly Hortons

09-17-2005, 04:29 AM

so i can't take the ink out thats alreadyin in a pilot?

i mean i really didn't think so but a kid told me you could and i just wanted/need to make sure

shai hulud

09-17-2005, 07:09 AM

You wouldn't get enough to make a dent in another marker, believe me. What's up with Pilot ink going for $5 and up a bottle???? That's what I want to know. It's not like they don't make it anymore- I can still find it for two bucks and change...I think graff stores are ripping us off by inflating the price, and citing "limited availability". That's bullshit, since I can walk to the stationery shop by my house, and order it for less than what it cost me in 1990, if you adjust for inflation. Again, what's really going on?

shai hulud

09-17-2005, 07:24 AM

http://www.edding.com/1448_DEU_HTML.htm

http://www.edding.com/1457_DEU_HTML.htm

http://www.edding.com/1463_DEU_HTML.htm

http://www.edding.com/1460_DEU_HTML.htm

I ordered a catalog from these guys...they're like one stop shopping, if I've ever seen it. Why isn't anything like this available in the States? I'm going to blow a check on this company, if I'm not careful...they even sell one liter bottles of ink!

http://www.edding.com/pictures/Tinten/T1000_001_l.jpg

Can I go live in Germany now? I've been good, I swear!

Fruitcake

09-17-2005, 10:31 AM

that stuff costs 50 euro for a liter, i havent found a shop yet where they sell the t1000 (so you can rack it) just the t100 and thats just a few tags and its gone, edding used to make very good ink untill they had to remove the xyleen/tolueen now its still okay but not very good anymore

Fruitcake

09-17-2005, 10:36 AM

Originally posted by Inhalant@Sep 17 2005, 05:14 AM
don't need huge markers just paint it!
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the traincompany has special stuff to very easily remove montana and belton or any other paint, that stuff doesnot work on ink and i want my tags to last so i need a huge marker

shai hulud

09-17-2005, 06:43 PM

50 euros? Never mind, that's too much. I can get liters of Montana for $22 out here...I'll probably order some pens, anyway. If they break me off a wholesale price, I might try it, however.

brasse hed

09-18-2005, 07:09 PM

edit

brasse hed

09-18-2005, 07:13 PM

krinky mop
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v295/nicegi/equip001.jpg

spade561

09-20-2005, 11:49 PM

Originally posted by amne+Sep 13 2005, 04:28 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (amne - Sep 13 2005, 04:28 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by wase@Jul 30 2005, 02:57 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-MuKiS@Jul 27 2005, 08:46 PM
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6441/jumbo9hs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
qot 1 of dese 2day any know how 2 open em up ?
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to open it...u turn the top part to the right instead of the left. if you dont know what imean by top part...its the white part under the cap..just twist it to the right.
Quoted post

that doesnt work, i've got one and i've been trying for days, im about to just break that ho off..
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[/b][/quote]

jus picked one up. the reason it's stuck is because theres glue thats dried up in there holding the valve in place. you just gotta turn until it breaks up. the valve will sit in there fine, it just wont be glued in. mine works great. dont use pliers, youlll break the plastic, just twist as hard as you can the opposite of the way you normally would. make sure you put that bitch in a ziploc when you fill it though, it leaks inside the cap a little...it hasnt leaked into my pocket yet, but just in case. make sure you pump it really well for a long time. that nib takes a while to juice up. otherwise you get streaky lines and itll dry out before the end of the tag. good luck.

nerdx

09-23-2005, 01:39 AM

Originally posted by spade561+Sep 20 2005, 06:49 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (spade561 - Sep 20 2005, 06:49 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by amne@Sep 13 2005, 04:28 PM
Originally posted by wase@Jul 30 2005, 02:57 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-MuKiS@Jul 27 2005, 08:46 PM
http://img61.imageshack.us/img61/6441/jumbo9hs.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
qot 1 of dese 2day any know how 2 open em up ?
Quoted post

to open it...u turn the top part to the right instead of the left. if you dont know what imean by top part...its the white part under the cap..just twist it to the right.
Quoted post

that doesnt work, i've got one and i've been trying for days, im about to just break that ho off..
Quoted post

jus picked one up. the reason it's stuck is because theres glue thats dried up in there holding the valve in place. you just gotta turn until it breaks up. the valve will sit in there fine, it just wont be glued in. mine works great. dont use pliers, youlll break the plastic, just twist as hard as you can the opposite of the way you normally would. make sure you put that bitch in a ziploc when you fill it though, it leaks inside the cap a little...it hasnt leaked into my pocket yet, but just in case. make sure you pump it really well for a long time. that nib takes a while to juice up. otherwise you get streaky lines and itll dry out before the end of the tag. good luck.
Quoted post
[/b][/quote]

yeah, i have the same thing it was kind of hard to open at first, but make sure you turning it the wrong way, turn it to the right, the threads are backwards.

what are you guys putting in your 2 way zig glue maerker? i havent gotten anything together yet but i want to know what you guys like. also willl thinned out paint go through that nib on the zig? and last, anyone know if replacement nibs are available, i havent found any yet.

shai hulud

09-23-2005, 10:31 AM

This is all I use for most markers...

[attachmentid=21820]

T-grade for the Drips, and Garvey for the stain and extra blackness. I just hooked up a 30 mm Zig glue pen..works better than the Montana does, I believe.

Yoink!

nerdx

09-23-2005, 08:05 PM

i went to all the store around, art and office none had refill ink, they only had that india ink which i heard is crap and sunami i htink.

well i picked up another zig, a biggie 50 says that you cant open it and ive tryed. my last zig the 2 way glue one just spun off counterclockwise, how can i open up this 50?

nerdx

09-23-2005, 09:31 PM

scratch that, i opend it was just a really really stuck one. they glue them actually.
anyone know of places that sell marsh? i dont want to buy it offline, but will like homedepot or places like that have it?

shai hulud

09-24-2005, 12:58 AM

^^^Shhhhhhh............ (http://www.officedepot.com/browse.do?Ne=6+1+10313+5&Nr=FILTER(domestic)&N=4294951132+10324+4294934344)

metropolitanmayhem

09-24-2005, 03:21 AM

30 ml glue pens shiit man anyone no if u can get them in australia? and hwo much they wood be

shai hulud

09-24-2005, 09:36 AM

Metro, check your PMs.

shai hulud

10-01-2005, 05:22 PM

I finally got some of the Leeho pens...and, the hype was well worth it. These are hot shit, for real. Imagine a Zig, but about a third smaller and the tip is perfect, about the same as a Pilot, but on a flowpen. They don't hold a lot of ink, but they don't waste any of it, either. I'm sold.

MC P.

10-01-2005, 05:51 PM

Originally posted by shai hulud@Oct 1 2005, 12:22 PM
I finally got some of the Leeho pens...and, the hype was well worth it. These are hot shit, for real. Imagine a Zig, but about a third smaller and the tip is perfect, about the same as a Pilot, but on a flowpen. They don't hold a lot of ink, but they don't waste any of it, either. I'm sold.
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Yo Shai... yeah i just got one too... my question for you is when you opened it up and cleaned all the shit out to put your ink in.... did you put it back togethor the way they sent it to you or did you leave some shit out? thanks man.

flip words

10-01-2005, 10:54 PM

umm...leeho pens? those hot shit? can someone please show me a pic and hook a brotha up with the info on where i can get some of these pens? i would appreciate it y'all, thanks. peace.

shai hulud

10-02-2005, 04:49 AM

http://static.zoovy.com/img/thescrapqueen/-/adhesive_leeho_2_in_1.jpg

Here, Flip. I found mine at a fabric store, they seem to be marketed under a few different brands. Mine were from Singer and cost $3 each.

[attachmentid=22300]

They have a very clean line, as you can see.

[attachmentid=22301]

Here's what the finished product looks like.

I didn't leave any of the parts out, but it was a bitch to unscrew the top off. Is there some trick I should know about these?

[attachmentid=22302]

I found this the other day at the store where I pay my cellphone bill. It's got to be at least 30 or 40 years old, and it works as good as new. I love old pens like this...I still find them here and there.

flip words

10-04-2005, 06:49 PM

i was in michaels yesterday and i saw this zig marker that was hella sick. i got hella normal zigs, the glue ones, but this zig was a "posterman". it came with ink inside of it, with a fat nib. the ink is waterproof, opaque, and fast drying, but im not sure if the ink is too good. ill fuck with it and let you guys know. iono how to post pics so sorry for those who want to see it.

anyway those leeho pens look like a bigger version of the zigs. but im sure they're tight. its cool how its a flat line with no drips. ill probly go gank one soon enough.

brasse hed

10-04-2005, 08:17 PM

i wouldnt bother with the inkinside the postermans its water based painty/ chalky stuff
do the usual empty that shit n fill it with somethingworthwhile.

TeezerPHM

10-05-2005, 04:29 PM

has anyone ever tried to make nibs for paint markers (valve pens)? is it even possible? it would prolly be to hard an not really worth it

whoneedsavet

10-05-2005, 09:31 PM

Hmm thats a really god question. the nibs are mad of nylon. So if you visited a hardware store and found the right material it could probably be done. Not sure where you would find it though.

straightedge

10-06-2005, 03:27 AM

here's one of those bottles that they have at michael's. they're 4 oz. and they have a pretty good nib on them.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/1_2_fuckyou/twelve2.jpg

i mixed some sumi ink(really runny, but doesn't stay for anything) and some griffin. there's way too much of the bullshit for the griffin to even do anything.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/1_2_fuckyou/12oz.jpg

and anyone know if the leather dye in a kiwi is any good? i got this off a friend and i haven't tried it out yet. i'm kind of lazy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/1_2_fuckyou/twelve.jpg

peace.

shai hulud

10-06-2005, 04:12 AM

Nope...Kiwi only makes good mops.

I didn't think sumi would mix well with Griffin, but Griffin is alcohol based so it could work. Those applicators are cool, how much are they? (Michael's isn't the rack it used to be.)

deathmetal.

10-06-2005, 07:17 AM

where in michaels did you find that? i also wanna go pick one up.

shai hulud

10-06-2005, 10:49 AM

I've been slacking, but no longer...I have all new and improved mods, so put on the nerd hats and check this out...I just got Picasa, which is this super fun photo application from Google..hence my artsy-fartsy new look. Let me know what you think, I'm having a blast with it...I'm not very handy with Photoshop, and this is retarded easy and fun...here's a link to it if you like it. http://picasa.google.com/ And, if you like my boring ol' photos, I'll go back to those, too. ;)

[attachmentid=22513]

This is a 1 oz. squeeze bottle. I cut the hole in the top a little bigger, and pulled a piece of felt chalkboard eraser through it, filled it with ink, and there's the results.

[attachmentid=22514]

That's a Sanford blacktop bottle with the ball popped out and a mop valve tip in its place. I had to cut 1/4" off around the top so it would fit. I think the new/old ink combination made it clog a little, so use the stock ink and save some time.

[attachmentid=22515]

This is an old OTR I fucked up with Krink, that i pulled the valve out of. I then took a piece of felt, foled it in half, and pulld it through the top, again. It writes even better than before! Flows nice, too.

[attachmentid=22516]

This is what the Leeho line looks like- sharp, and clean. I went out ith this the other night, and it's even better than I expected it to be.

All right, I have to go pass out now. I'll post some more stuff I'm cooking up in my head soon.

straightedge

10-06-2005, 06:37 PM

Originally posted by shai hulud@Oct 5 2005, 11:12 PM
Nope...Kiwi only makes good mops.

I didn't think sumi would mix well with Griffin, but Griffin is alcohol based so it could work. Those applicators are cool, how much are they? (Michael's isn't the rack it used to be.)
Quoted post

i think they run about a dollar or two. i'm not too sure, cause i racked it, and i never check the prices. i'm too busy looking out for myself.

dm, found it near the other paint supplies, and the natural sponges. but i found out that most of them are organized all different, so just look around a little.

shai hulud

10-07-2005, 01:11 AM

i think they run about a dollar or two. i'm not too sure, cause i racked it, and i never check the prices. i'm too busy looking out for myself.

:haha: That's the truth...unfortunately, me and two other people have kind of blown up our local store. I never even used to look out. I was thinking about pushing a cart out the front door at one point, but by then they had gotten cameras and a rent-a-cop...that's not me anymore, though. For a while though, It was TOO easy.

I like that angled tip...does it add anything cool to the line? If the foam was firm enough, I could see it being a good thing.

taper

10-07-2005, 03:32 AM

well this thread inspired me to come up with some new markers. here is my new fav shit. its a puma cologne bottle. i just cut off the top used the very bottom so the cap would still go on. put a peice of eraser in there which works amazing with the size of the hole. (really tight no leaks at all)

http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/7601/im0014246dy.jpg
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/3350/im0014255qx.jpg
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/8402/im0014269fb.jpg
http://img114.imageshack.us/img114/1996/im0014270rl.jpg
writes really well and drips on metal and painted surfaces.

shai hulud

10-07-2005, 06:01 AM

Looks good...but, if that's your real word, I'd pull that photo right away if I were you. Just looking out, that's all. Otherwise, SHUT UP, SHAI...............

The only thing I'd worry about is dropping the damn thing...I have Serious Butterfingers. Me and glass are not friends.

I wouldn't have thought of this since I don't wear cologne. I should, I stink like three goats. :lol:

flip words

10-07-2005, 04:46 PM

haha shai you say you wanted to start rackin just by pushing a shopping cart out. hahahaha funny shit cause i did that shit at winco stealin alcohol and some other munchies and guess what, i got caught. yea, to all those juveniles out there, learn from my mistakes and dont do that.

taper

10-07-2005, 11:46 PM

shi is there any kind of printer ink that works good? right now im at my friends band practice spot which happens to be a warehouse for printers/copiers ect. there is tons of supplies, anything i should look for that could be of any use?

shai hulud

10-08-2005, 01:16 AM

Flip- It can be done. It HAS been done. That's all I'm gonna say here. I wouldn't recommend it unless you know the trick.

Taper- Any liquid ink is worth a shot...but, don't blow up their spot- be discreet. Copiers are nice to have if you're into wheatpasting- I didn't say that. Strike the last comment from the record. :wink2:

flip words

10-08-2005, 08:05 PM

shai - i know it can be done, i did it hella times myself before i got caught hah.

shai hulud

10-08-2005, 09:40 PM

Then you already know how bad of an idea it is...in the long term. Shit's fun, though.

straightedge

10-08-2005, 10:02 PM

Originally posted by shai hulud@Oct 6 2005, 08:11 PM
i think they run about a dollar or two. i'm not too sure, cause i racked it, and i never check the prices. i'm too busy looking out for myself.

:haha: That's the truth...unfortunately, me and two other people have kind of blown up our local store. I never even used to look out. I was thinking about pushing a cart out the front door at one point, but by then they had gotten cameras and a rent-a-cop...that's not me anymore, though. For a while though, It was TOO easy.

I like that angled tip...does it add anything cool to the line? If the foam was firm enough, I could see it being a good thing.
Quoted post

nah, it just comes out all round. but it still covers enough area, you know? gets the job done.

LEFTone

10-09-2005, 07:35 AM

yo shai think i could send a couple bucks for some ink(marsh?) and markers(glue pens?)?

we aint got that shit down in hawaii

shai hulud

10-09-2005, 09:48 AM

Hey, metro, I was gonna pm you..check those in a couple.

I'm not sure what I can send there, since I am having money problems and misunderstandings with the USPS...but, I'll PM you a link to both of those. I just had a package to Australia rejected because the ink contained xylene! Live and learn.

What's funnier is that they sell xylene there.

sillysiphilis

10-09-2005, 10:56 AM

im sure someones already answered this for me
but my sharpie marker just ran out of juice (ink)
and i was wondering if you guys knew how to refill
these things with more ink.
peace

flip words

10-09-2005, 07:49 PM

sharpie? what the? just get a zig or a pilot marker or something and refill those. simple and plain.

sillysiphilis

10-09-2005, 09:29 PM

my sense of humor has gotten way too dry lately

5iveDee

10-10-2005, 10:24 PM

Originally posted by straightedge@Oct 5 2005, 11:27 PM
here's one of those bottles that they have at michael's. they're 4 oz. and they have a pretty good nib on them.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/1_2_fuckyou/twelve2.jpg

i mixed some sumi ink(really runny, but doesn't stay for anything) and some griffin. there's way too much of the bullshit for the griffin to even do anything.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/1_2_fuckyou/12oz.jpg

and anyone know if the leather dye in a kiwi is any good? i got this off a friend and i haven't tried it out yet. i'm kind of lazy.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v51/1_2_fuckyou/twelve.jpg

peace.
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isnt that clear bottle basically the same thing as those krink mops?

TeezerPHM

10-11-2005, 03:20 AM

made a pentel white (the little shits) a sort of grayish more black color.... gonna put more ink in when i run it more dry....and yes you dont open pentel whites

shai hulud

10-11-2005, 09:40 AM

^You can refill Pentel white pens (100w's...the short stubby ones), and here's the trick. Labor intensive, but possible.

Take a flat head screwdriver, and CAREFULLY pry the metal surrounding the tip assembly. You don't want to crack the plastic. Then, take a pair of pliers and CAREFULLY rock the assembly back and forth till it loosens. I have a special pair of pliers with rubber tips, but you can improvise with rubber bands or tape.

The assembly should come out in one piece if you do this right. At this point, if this works out, you can add whatever's clever to the marker. To reseal, use the pliers to rebend the metal, and cover the edge of the assembly. If you want definite leak protection, use some kind of sealant like Shoe Goo or Permatex around the seam.

I don't think that the tips on these pens last long enough to make this worthwhile, but that's how you do it, in any case.

TeezerPHM

10-11-2005, 03:03 PM

that sounds like some crazy shit but i fill them but putting a little ink where the tip an push down the valve so the ink goes in

shai hulud

10-12-2005, 06:52 AM

There's other pens like this out there...this is the most common one by far, though. I'm sure almost everyone has seen the one on the bottom-

http://www.shoplet.com/office/vlgimages/ZPEN0444.JPG

BTW, those are cool for the first thirty or so tags, then the tip goes out.

http://www.shoplet.com/office/vlgimages/ZMIS9480.JPG

These pens, however, are underrated...and, when I wear them out, I crack them open to get the ink. Get a few of the black ones and do this, and you'll see what I mean. That ink has some pure, concentrated, staining power I can't describe. I plan on selling these someday. Cool beans, I say.

Check 'em out.

snake_tooth

10-12-2005, 07:22 PM

check these out! look pretty good for mops.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-CHUNKY-SPONGE-PAIN...bayphotohosting (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/4-CHUNKY-SPONGE-PAINT-PENS_W0QQitemZ6004284754QQcategoryZ80546QQtcZphoto QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem#ebayphotohosting)

TeezerPHM

10-12-2005, 09:27 PM

dude are those the markers witht he button on top to get more ink though??? i wanna find out how to refill those and i havent ran into those markers in maaaaaaaad long

shai hulud

10-13-2005, 12:57 AM

Yes, they are...not refillable, though, as far as I can tell. The ink in them is hot shit, though. Either wait for me to get them, or Google them...they're still available.

Those sponge painters would be perfect mops...I've been using similar ones for years.

religion

10-13-2005, 04:05 AM

Yeah, those pump Pentels used to rock, and they were always cheap. Can't find em around here any more.

snake_tooth

10-13-2005, 03:36 PM

are the ink in those markathons better than pilot, artline or edding?

shai hulud

10-13-2005, 04:54 PM

Originally posted by snake_tooth@Oct 13 2005, 08:36 AM
are the ink in those markathons better than pilot, artline or edding?
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There's really nothing to compare it to. I guess if you could imagine Pilot ink, but twice as thick, and with five times the opacity and stain, that would be close. If it came in a bottle, I would buy it, no doubt.

However, there just isn't enough ink in the pen for it to be worthwhile. I'd save up my dead ones, and it would take five or six of them to fill up a regular paint pen. But, I wouldn't buy them for just the ink...they're really good markers. They have a pump button on the back to rejuice the tip. Thing is, Pentel tips SUUUUUCK. But, you're left with some good ink, so crack the back off and pour the ink into something else.

These have become scarce, I noticed it, too. I only know two places that have them, and one of them only carries the dry-erase model.
I think I'm going to order some, before they are discontinued.

one two three four five

10-13-2005, 05:13 PM

Originally posted by shai hulud+Oct 13 2005, 11:54 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (shai hulud - Oct 13 2005, 11:54 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-snake_tooth@Oct 13 2005, 08:36 AM
are the ink in those markathons better than pilot, artline or edding?
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There's really nothing to compare it to. I guess if you could imagine Pilot ink, but twice as thick, and with five times the opacity and stain, that would be close. If it came in a bottle, I would buy it, no doubt.

However, there just isn't enough ink in the pen for it to be worthwhile. I'd save up my dead ones, and it would take five or six of them to fill up a regular paint pen. But, I wouldn't buy them for just the ink...they're really good markers. They have a pump button on the back to rejuice the tip. Thing is, Pentel tips SUUUUUCK. But, you're left with some good ink, so crack the back off and pour the ink into something else.

These have become scarce, I noticed it, too. I only know two places that have them, and one of them only carries the dry-erase model.
I think I'm going to order some, before they are discontinued.
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do they have a better stain than garvey?

StrapBroke

10-13-2005, 09:22 PM

Originally posted by shai hulud@Oct 13 2005, 11:54 AM
There's really nothing to compare it to. I guess if you could imagine Pilot ink, but twice as thick, and with five times the opacity and stain, that would be close. If it came in a bottle, I would buy it, no doubt.

Holy Shit.....What the fuck bro this is unheard of....Fuck id be rackin up shitloads of em if they were rackable and just squeezin the ink out tha filter....

shai hulud

10-14-2005, 07:52 AM

That's the thing about these...IT'S LIQUID INK!!!

But, few stores are carrying them anymore...and, there's no sense in wasting a perfectly good marker to get the ink.

Trust me- if you do find these, get as many as you can, and use them. They work fine, the line is crisp and opaque when the pen is new. But, DO NOT throw them out when the tip wears out, which usually took me a week or two (I draw a lot). Instead, pull the valve out of the back carefully, and you'll see the reservoir...there's another plug there. Pull that, and you'll see the ink. Save it up, and you'll see what I mean. I never tried the other colors, though. The short ones are good for stickers and blackwork, and the thin ones are good drawing markers.

Good luck finding these...they are online, hunt them down.

snake_tooth

10-14-2005, 11:13 PM

oc course their liquid ink because all inks are LIQUID

shai hulud

10-15-2005, 02:26 AM

Except printer's ink.

What I meant was that the ink in the pen itself is a liquid, and not in an absorbent felt.

snake_tooth

10-15-2005, 03:16 AM

ohh i get ya, whats printers ink then?

shai hulud

10-15-2005, 09:05 AM

I briefly worked for a print shop that still had an offset printer inhouse. I did some manual pasteup and worked the counter, while the boss or my friend ran the press. I'll hand it to the guy, he held it down till 1995...keep in mind that this is well after "Adobe" and "desktop publishing" were household words. He closed shortly after I left, and I was sorry to see him go, mainly because it was a great paper and label hookup, but I hate the word "obsolete" more than anything.

About the ink...well, it's really, really thick, like silly putty, almost. The only places that seem to have it are commercial paper stores. It comes in 8 oz. tubs, in what are known as process colors or CMYK. Short for Cyan-Magenta-Yellow-Black, and pronounced as separate letters. CMYK is a color model in which all colors are described as a mixture of these four process colors. CMYK is the standard color model used in offset printing for full-color documents. Because such printing uses inks of these four basic colors, it is often called four-color printing. You can make pretty much any color you want from these, I've seen it done...and, it's a bitch.

Does it have any application in graff? You can tag with ANYTHING- paint, ink, acid, dye, crayons, chalk, rocks, the neighbor's cat...the fact that it's ink simply means it's going to stick around for a while. Printer's ink never seemed like it was worth the trouble, to me. You have to thin it before it flows, and that takes two chemicals, I think...so, time/money/experience all come ino play...and, I can go to the store and buy two dozen bottles of Griffin right now for what I would shell out for something that may or may not work.

It's funny...when the guy asked what printer's ink was, I was shocked, but then I realized that he may not even know what an offest press is...sometimes, 12 oz. makes me feel really old...32 isn't old...is it? I don't care, I'm still a punk kid as far as the world is concerned and that's all right with me. No driver's license, no kids, more toys than is necessary or even healthy, and no money. I laugh at myself a lot because my problems are not that bad, compared to some of my peers who are married and/or have children, and debt up the wazoo.

Right now the reality for me is that it's Friday, rent is paid, I'm drunk, and my girlfriend is out of town...life is pretty fucking sweet right now, friends. Plus, it finally started raining, and that means I can kick it and work at home all weekend, and have an excuse to be a hermit. Word.

panakeii

10-15-2005, 10:26 AM

Refilling 100Ws is always bit of a pain, i prefer the
old eyedropper routine. In one hand you hold the
pen with the nib removed and a nail down the hole
held in place with your thumb on the top of the nail.

Then you pour the ink into a cup and
suck it up with an eyedropper.

Then while 'clicking' the nail with your thumb
(to operate the valve of the pen) you slowly
press the plunger of the eyedropper so ink
gets into the hole of the pen and is sucked
in until the pen won't take more ink.

The 100W is really good for sneaky
tags in areas with a lot of people moving
around.

snake_tooth

10-15-2005, 02:51 PM

nice one shai, thanks for the explanation. u should get a drivers licence though :king:

shai hulud

10-15-2005, 04:02 PM

The only reason I've considered getting a license was so I could drive people home if they were too drunk, or in case of an emergency. The problem is, I was usually the first one at the party and the last one to leave, if you know what I mean. And, ambulance drivers like to feel wanted, and so do cab drivers. What right do I have to interfere with their livelihood?
And, every time I take a break from the sauce, I'm broke, so even though I'm sober, I can't AFFORD to drive. Besides I never really wanted or felt a need to drive...transit where I live is okay, and I ride my bike everywhere. Thanks, but no thanks.

Lately, I've been thinking, "People keep asking me questions about ink here that I've already covered elsewhere. (not you, snake). Is there a way I can cover EVERYTHING simply?"

And, there is, and I did it...but, I'm not going to post it here...it will be in the ink thread. I'll post a link here when it's done, hopefully today.

TeezerPHM

10-15-2005, 04:48 PM

Originally posted by shai hulud@Oct 15 2005, 04:02 PM
I was usually the first one at the party and the last one to leave, if you know what I mean. Quoted post

hell yeah thats how i do

MC P.

10-16-2005, 02:55 AM

Ok... I dont know if this is possible... but what would i have to do to a Pilot (Wide and Broad) to make it fit for krink... would i basically have to gut the shit entirely? could i use the original nib? I just need to know if this has any possiblity of working cause i dont wanna waste a pilot... thanks anyone.

notorious05

10-16-2005, 09:45 AM

what would happen if you used a gluepen marker with the original nib on it?

artsol

10-16-2005, 11:30 PM

does anybody remember how to make those videocassette markers? i recall something like 3 years ago...just getting reminiscent

MC P.

10-17-2005, 01:45 AM

Originally posted by MC P.@Oct 15 2005, 09:55 PM
Ok... I dont know if this is possible... but what would i have to do to a Pilot (Wide and Broad) to make it fit for krink... would i basically have to gut the shit entirely? could i use the original nib? I just need to know if this has any possiblity of working cause i dont wanna waste a pilot... thanks anyone.
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Ok... well i asked the general 12 oz. public... and that doesnt seem to be working... so im gunna do what i regularly do... and burden Shai with another one of my questions...So...yeah...Shai you up for another one lol? Just read my quoted post for my question...thanks

shai hulud

10-17-2005, 08:40 AM

It won't work. I answered this, but got the error screen...I should have followed up. Well, now you know. I get all my Pilots at UPS stores, they all seem to have them...but, not the ink. I showed one guy how to do it, so maybe he'll pick up the ink. That would be nice.

Use a mop for Krink. It's really the only way to go for pigment inks, I've found. Good luck.

smellycunt

10-17-2005, 09:32 AM

Actually.... There is a way to do it, but i'm not willing to tell, just a little trick i worked out myself, it's pretty much the only marker i use now. Sorry to tease.

metropolitanmayhem

10-17-2005, 09:34 AM

just opened up a whiteout pen anyone tryed emptieing the whiteout out of it and put it in a marker would it work if you got enough?

artsol

10-17-2005, 03:05 PM

Originally posted by metropolitanmayhem@Oct 17 2005, 03:34 AM
just opened up a whiteout pen anyone tryed emptieing the whiteout out of it and put it in a marker would it work if you got enough?
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whiteout is super tacky and probably wouldn't function well for ink...that's usuually why they use a brush or a metal tube to transport the liquid from the chamber to the paper. just thin white paint!

Back to the vhs marker...anyone know how to make it?

metropolitanmayhem

10-18-2005, 06:50 AM

it says stuff about the vhs marker right at the start of the thread

shai hulud

10-19-2005, 06:16 AM

Originally posted by artsol@Oct 16 2005, 04:30 PM
does anybody remember how to make those videocassette markers? i recall something like 3 years ago...just getting reminiscent
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Here it is...what a contraption!

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VHS MARKER
Ok. Here's the recipe.

Materials:
VHS tape
screwdriver
exacto knife
craft glue gun and glue sticks (or epoxy)
duct tape
lots of your favorite ink
old sock, or other filler
2 chalkboard erasers

You are better off getting one of the VHS tapes with the plastic sleeve, since that's inkproof. First, you pull off the cover that protects the exposed tape. This is where the chalkboad erasers will go. Next, unscrew the tape and take everything out. What you want to do now is use the duct tape and epoxy to seal off the interior, so it won't leak all over you. Don't put the tape back together yet. You need to cut all the plastic junk out, so you can stuff the tape case with filler, and insert the eraser felt. Use the utility knife for this. Remember! Cut away from yourself, so you don't sever an artery or something. Once you're pretty sure the felt will fit into the marker, put it together and seal the edges with the epoxy, and then tape over it.
Ok. We're about halfway there. Now that you have a completely sealed container for your ink, you can cut up your filler and stuff the tape with it. The less you put in, the drippier your marker will be, since there's less to soak up the ink. 3/4 full is a pretty good amount. Now you're ready to put n the nub, or marking surface. Cut up the chalkboard eraser so that it fits into the space. You have to use a full one, and cut some from the second to fill up the remaining space. Once you got this all together, you can epoxy it in place. If you want itto hold together longer, epoxy all the eraser pieces together. Sometimes they fall apart if you don't do this. Make sure the epoxy makes a nice seal around, so all your ink doesn't leak out when you try to write.
Now you can fill with ink and start writing. You shouldn't use this to vandalize other people's property, because that's illegal, and you can get arrested. If you do, that's not my fault. (disclaimer) Have a lot of ink, because it takes a lot to fill this bad boy. Two of the marsh ink bottles from 7th Heaven will do the trick.
Cover with the case the tape came with.

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OR, try this-

Get the following-

Tupperware spaghetti container with lid
Large cellulose sponge (big enough to fit snugly into the container)
Duct tape
Lots and lots of ink
Rubber gloves (neccessary)

Fill the tupperware with as much ink as you think is needed. Wrap the sponge with duct tape till it fits tightly in the container, then stuff it in. Put on the gloves, this is super messy! SLOWLY tilt the container to saturate the sponge, and go to town. Note- this "pen"does not travel well. This is extremely messy and wastes ink...but it looks crazy if it's done right, and it's less labor intensive.