MARKER SUPERDUPERTHREAD

[imported_FROSTY]

K i know there have been lots of threds on here about making your own markers but what about modifying markers. I got the Jumbo Pilot permanant marker
[img]http://www.pilotpen.com/PilotPen/images/sc6600.gif'>

and its cool and all but is there any ways you have modified it. I could experiment but i would probably fuk it up and that would be the end of it.
I was thinkin it would be cool to put in paint some thinner and a mixing ball but i dont know if that would work well. i thought of getting the gold and silver paints out of the smaller pilot markers and putting them both in the jumbo but the small ones need to be pushed down for the paint to come out and this cant be done on the jumbo.
anywayse what have you guys done with this marker or any others

[IntangibleFame]

its refillable...you can put other inks in it like marsh ect... You could flare the tip too..experiment.

[ASER1NE]

wow , never thought of those....tell me how it turns out

[HAL]

Stuck because a lot of kids ask about this stuff.

Any and all marker making recipes, inks, etc...should go here.

[ASER1NE]

ALRIGHT SINCE IM NICE I'LL START THIS OFF.....................

Deadly Recipes:
Ok...ive read through alot of ink recipies...but why don't people melt...Well i tryed it....here it goes...fallow steps in order so you don't blow yourself up jackass!

First you well need...some kind of metal tin,A lighter...kiwi white shoe polish...the rub on kind,A white meanstreak, some opaque white paint,and white marsh or griffin...

Go outside so you dont get cancer a year later.
Cut off a small peice of mean streak.
Throw it in the tin.
Get about a fifth of the lil white shoe polish can in the tin...Light the shit on fire...let it melt down...not till it boils....jack ass..and blow it out
quickly pore into somethin and add opaque paint.
Stir together...add white griffen or marsh...mix well add terpintine and a lil thinner...you figure out how much....pore into mop or marker...And BAAAAAM!...oh yea....make sure you dont light yourself on fire...I'm not responsibul if your ass stupid ass me and try this...but works great...vary permanet...if you do it right.

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just look...ype the word ink and you have everything you need
but here is one

props to the graff inventor!

1. get a big mixing bowl or somethin.
2. get something to stir with like a stirrer
3. mix together all of the following-

-black india ink
-some marsh or whatever similar brand of ink
-purple rusto paint
-GLITTER, lots of glitter
-your fav color of hair dye
-crack open a HI-LITER and dump the ink in
-maple syrup, not Aunt Jemima, but the real maple syrup thats nice and runny

There it is. The amounts of each can be changed depending how much of each you have. Pour it all into your mop or try freezing it and see if it will work like a meanstreak. Anyways, the glitter makes the ink look bad ass and all sparkly in the sun. The maple syrup is for consistency. The HI-LITER ink puts a weird look on the overall ink. I suggest adding in some metal balls or something to shake so the rusto paint and maple syrup stay nice and smooth. Anyways, go ahead and mix it up and pour it into your mop. Shake it up and go bomb. Remember, even though it has tasty maple syrup in it, do not consume this ink. You will get a bad stomache ache. Have fun with the graff inventor death ink and lets all make a big deal out of this like Krink. WOO HOO!

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I've had good results with mixing about 2/3 lacquer thinner with 1/3 alluminum rusto bucket paint. I made a really cool metallic blue, runny paint. It worked well...except if you let the marker sit unused the shit will dry up the sponge/nib. Also, the glitter shit in your ink....I'm just wondering how would the little metal flakes get through the nib, or whatever....maybe your were just joking.

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VHS MARKER
Ok. Here's the recipe.

Materials:
VHS tape
screwdriver
exacto knife
craft glue gun and glue sticks (or epoxy)
duct tape
lots of your favorite ink
old sock, or other filler
2 chalkboard erasers

You are better off getting one of the VHS tapes with the plastic sleeve, since that's inkproof. First, you pull off the cover that protects the exposed tape. This is where the chalkboad erasers will go. Next, unscrew the tape and take everything out. What you want to do now is use the duct tape and epoxy to seal off the interior, so it won't leak all over you. Don't put the tape back together yet. You need to cut all the plastic junk out, so you can stuff the tape case with filler, and insert the eraser felt. Use the utility knife for this. Remember! Cut away from yourself, so you don't sever an artery or something. Once you're pretty sure the felt will fit into the marker, put it together and seal the edges with the epoxy, and then tape over it.
Ok. We're about halfway there. Now that you have a completely sealed container for your ink, you can cut up your filler and stuff the tape with it. The less you put in, the drippier your marker will be, since there's less to soak up the ink. 3/4 full is a pretty good amount. Now you're ready to put n the nub, or marking surface. Cut up the chalkboard eraser so that it fits into the space. You have to use a full one, and cut some from the second to fill up the remaining space. Once you got this all together, you can epoxy it in place. If you want itto hold together longer, epoxy all the eraser pieces together. Sometimes they fall apart if you don't do this. Make sure the epoxy makes a nice seal around, so all your ink doesn't leak out when you try to write.
Now you can fill with ink and start writing. You shouldn't use this to vandalize other people's property, because that's illegal, and you can get arrested. If you do, that's not my fault. (disclaimer) Have a lot of ink, because it takes a lot to fill this bad boy. Two of the marsh ink bottles from 7th Heaven will do the trick.
Cover with the case the tape came with.

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ouija13hiTranscend3a

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This thread inspired me to make a kiwi mop and it works fine... if you're making your first one just remember to have towels handy, and a sink nearby, but do it outside.. My shirt got a little paint on it, as well as the ground and i ended up needing two more containers... Maybe I'm just retarded..

Oh, Also, you can get the carchalk marker things that are for car windows... pop the tops open on those, and put a little paint thinner and bucket paint in em... works just the same, but holds slightly less than a kiwi.

Bonus: leave a little bit of shoe polish in and use paint which is opposite in color for a nice tyd-dye ish swirly effect on your mops =] Goodluck!

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Kiwi slush buster is the shit... its clear and you need to add ink to it or bucket aint then you can destroy. also here is a recie for silver ink that rocks hard.
Take a Kiwi Bottle or experts edge shoepolish since it seems to have a dripping mechanism built in or any kind. take off the sponge. Remove the pushy aparatus thing that controls the flow....now it will drip like crazy. You have to cut it out and this should all be done with gloves because painthinner is involved. next take your bucket of rusto bucket silver. drop about half of it into the empty container. drop in a marble or a bolt. Now go outside with the paint thinner as this is seriously toxic shit. Then add it so the bottle is about 3/4 the ways full and then drop in some runny varnish from the hardware store. This should produce an increadibly permanent wet drippy mother fucker of destruction! Have fun be safe and good luck!

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here's a VERY simple one that works well enough.
Go shop(lift)ting and get a Sanford Inker. It's used to prime rubber stamps. Don't get the one with the ball, that looks like womens deodorant, get the one with a spongy material. It's made squeezable. Oh, get two caps. Then cut the top off the two caps, mount them together and use the good old chalfboard eraser to fill the cap that doesn't screw onto the bottle. Use hot glue to bind the two caps together.

this will make a mini-mop with a solid dot that has a 1 inch diameter. Clean, effective,
and the amount of flow is constantly adjustable.

But you will want to find a way to add some stickyer ink.

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WHEATPASTING
Ingredients:
1 cup of wheat flour
1/2 cup of rice flour
3 teaspoons of cornstarch
2 cups of water

Combine wheat flour, rice flour, and water in a pot on the stove on low heat. The mixture should be very watery. Stir the mixture constantly with a wire whisk until the paste begins to thicken just a tiny, tiny bit. This may take about ten minutes. Take the pot off of the heat when you start to feel the mixture thickening. In a jar with a lid, combine three teaspoons of cornstarch with a half of a cup of water. Tighten the lid and shake the mixture until there are no lumps of cornstarch that are visible. Add the cornstarch mixture to the flour mixture and stir for another two minutes. Now you are done. Your arm may get tired, so I suggest that you do this with someone else so that you can switch off stirring.

I cannot emphasize the importance of stirring enough. Yes, it is tiring, but don't stop.

[berol]

i myself dig the paint/glasseater... i havent used it much but it works and looks gggreat...
fucking around with metalics is a real bitch, the solvent they use
is mad industrial and not legal to retail clients. (because the shits bad, real bad)
ive made markers out of pitsticks, "rubbing alcohol and carbon paper"
shoepollish (mops?) oh and i stole one of those crazy marker sets they use at home depot.....

[DIRTYSEKS]

has anyone heard of the deoderant marker something like you grab a deoderant stick the empty it out and use chalk board eraser for the tip and add ink dont knowthe exact steps but give it a try expiriment wit it...

[T.T Boy]

Originally posted by berol
i myself dig the paint/glasseater... i havent used it much but it works and looks gggreat...
fucking around with metalics is a real bitch, the solvent they use
is mad industrial and not legal to retail clients. (because the shits bad, real bad)
ive made markers out of pitsticks, "rubbing alcohol and carbon paper"
shoepollish (mops?) oh and i stole one of those crazy marker sets they use at home depot.....

you should hope i dont catch you using etch in my city.

[imported_DEADONE]

WHEN THE TIP GETS ALL SHITTY ON THOES PILOTS YOU CAN TURN THEM AROUND, VIOLA, NEW NIB.

[tmf0]

wheres the glass eater recipe????/

[AREANKAY]

you dont need to make glass eater you go an buy the shit i, wanna see someone use color etch

[T.T Boy]

Originally posted by imit
wheres the glass eater recipe????/

you better not use it either son. if you do, you dont want me to find you.

[AREANKAY]

Originally posted by T.T Boy


you better not use it either son. if you do, you dont want me to find you.



do you just make yourself belive somhow that using etch is any diffrent than say painting a train or on a wall ? i dont understand how a person that goes out and paint someones property then can say that using etch is messed up please enlighten me

[imported_EL MASKO]

You can't fill those Pilot's w/paint. There is no valve thus the paint just comes out if it is put upside down. Trust me, I put a little too much red Pilot ink in one, one day and welp, let's just say, ruined jeans, ruined carpet in friends house, and ruined zip loc back and a lot of paper towles. See the trick is the performance fabric filling keeps it all together and no mess. If you want drips...Don't use a Pilot.

[ARK*M]

Etch sucks, just piss on the wall like all the other jackasses and save yourselves the hassle

[HAL]

Etch bath is just ugly looking.

[dai]

if you use etch right, it looks pretty good. squeeze the mop too hard, it drips like crazy and takes a week to dry...but push the mop compressor on the ground and then write softly, it looks pretty tight after a few days of eating. i've used it once just to see what it looked like and one of them turned out pretty good. that shit is dangerous too. a week later after i hit it up, the etch was still wet in some places. is it safe to mix etch and paint? if anyone has any good etch recipes, please e-mail them to me.

[40ozProfit]

try taking a few of your half-empty paint markers and mixing them for quick custom colors...add a little yellow or white (making dark colors light seems to work best). DecoColors, UniBall even WoodCraft open up fairly easily.

[imported_super man 1]

bizump

[BROWNer]

Originally posted by AREANKAY
do you just make yourself belive somhow that using etch is any diffrent than say painting a train or on a wall ? i dont understand how a person that goes out and paint someones property then can say that using etch is messed up please enlighten me

its semantics..
to me it falls into espo's 'beef beyond belief' motto...hittin' somebodies car, or hitting a church or someone's house...etching some poor sods plate glass store front window means the whole piece of glass has to be replaced..that equals ridiculous deniro's for a single large ass payne of glass.
now map that out over roughly 60 city blocks full of glass and etch tags, depending where you're at, and you get the idea of the eventual, if not immediate costs..it heats shit out large..especially since its become the chosen tool of so many eager to be hiphop toys...writers that don't use it and have a reasonable amount of respect are gonna get caught up in the stiffer penalties resultant of etch bath mania. you wait and see. shit is mad retardo.

[idonotlikeu]

im so happy reading this thread

[dBUSH]

assuming I'm not some mark, and that espo's book isn't thing only one I've read, what is a safe glass-eater marker? Can I just put the chemical in a regular shoe-polish mop?

[BROWNer]

Originally posted by LAZYBONES
espo's book isn't thing only one I've read

huh?

[dBUSH]

Originally posted by LAZYBONES
what is a safe glass-eater marker?





wha?

[metallix]

there is no safe "glass eater." Every one of them has some whatever ingredients, and then the main ingredient HydroFluoric Acid. The most popular glass etch is Armour, which contains 1% hydrofluoric acid. hydrofluoric acid is dangerous, even the ONE PERCENT form of it can cause severe burns and medical problems. You can have serious heart failure from exposure to this shit.

[dBUSH]

dammit. I'm well aware that crayola doesn't make a non-toxic glass eater- for the kids. I wanna know what I can use to make a marker that the chemical won't eat through. You people are gonna make me go figure this out for myself !!!:heated:

(sorry, my last line was really vile)

[imported_dirtysicks]

Stick pins through the tip of your pilot, it will alllow the tip to flood for drippy tags

[EAC]

Originally posted by T.T Boy


you should hope i dont catch you using etch in my city.

good call

[defyone]

Defy's Etch Theory...
Dont hit up up small mom+pop places.. that really pisses me off. if you are gonna use etch, go for major corporations, with lots of money. always respect residential and small businesses.
Yes it does cause a large amout of damage, well cost wise that it. but if its a major corporation that has chain stores all over the nation, fuck that shit up.
Always rock rubber gloves..
oh and if your too, "bomb crazy", and you feel like getting up alot on any window, just bring griffin.
Etch Bath in chicago is being considered a leathal weapon, so all you heads in chicago watch out if you use it. also at stores you have to give them an address and phone nuber prior to purchasing the etch.
well i could say more. but im finished for now.

PeaCe. DDEEFFYYOONNEERR

[wutangbanger]

WHATS THE BEST INK TO ROCKIN I A MAH KIWI? WOULD PILOT INK FINE..:crazy: ;) :confused: THANKS!

[REGULATOR]

fuck naw pilot is too expensive for a mop...use griffin

[wutangbanger]

werd dope dope can u get griffin at any art store? us i never made a mop before

[dBUSH]

hey thanks for nothing you clench-cheek motherfuckers. I use removable stuff (paint, ink) to crush- I'd use etch for special spots like abandoned buildings with glass fronts but why am I trying to justify myself? You obviously think I'll do shots of this stuff just after I fill up a squirt-gun with the shit and shoot old ladies down at the bingo parlor. Fuck ninnies- rack griffin from walgreens, it's just shoe polish kid.

[Dr. Dazzle]

Don't forget etch gets you bad publicity. If there's anyway to beef up your profile with the cops, then etch is the way.

[wutangbanger]

werd thanks

[wutangbanger]

yo MR.lazy bones u gettin loud with me i`ll split ur mouth wide open punk :P

[dBUSH]

Originally posted by wutangbanger
yo MR.lazy bones u gettin loud with me i`ll split ur mouth wide open punk :P

okay toughguy- I guess I didn't separate my addresses. The first part of my statement was to those who know why glass-eater is bad, but apparently don't know how to make a marker with it. The second part was me dropping a little bit of knowledge on you, so please don't pummel me. :rolleyes:

[metalcru4evr]

I will have to agree with everyone else that is saying that etch is bad stuff...because it is. I myself went through the etch craze for about a week. I made etch markers, and etch mops. But I had the common sense to know what to do with them. The only things I would hit were like bus stops, and big places like Starbucks (one of my personal favorite targets). Another thing I did was to go back and make up a new tag that I was sure I would like to see years from now. But thats my two cents, just think responsiblly if you are going to use etch. Oh yeah, one other thing, for all you kids filling mops with etch...It is a good idea to carry the mop inside a thick plastic bag. Then when you want to use it just open the bagie, do yoir tag, and the close the bag. The bag will sort of act like a glove and keep the etch off your hands, but also if the mop leaks, then the etch wont get all over you.

[else]

heres a recipe for a black ink similar to india ink
u can find lamp black n gum arabic at art stores

* 1 egg yolk
* 1 tsp gum arabic
* 1/2 cup honey
* 1/2 tsp lamp black (buy in a tube or make by holding a plate over a lit candle)

Mix egg yolk, gum arabic and honey in a small bowl. Add lamp black to make a thick paste. Store in a jar. To use, mix a little paste w/ a little water to make a fluid.

[metalcru4evr]

is there a site online that you can buy marsh from???

[x317BOMBx]

Has anyone or should I say does anyone use the applicator that comes with Griffin ink to write with?? cause I went and got some tonight and I was just gonna put the ink up in my shoe polish, but the little applicator with that sponge ball looks pretty dope too. Im just wondering if anyone uses that, or if thats what most people do use??

[mawsAA]

Hey you guys were talking about using "etch" before? Can someone explain what it is? And don't bitch me out, cos I'm from Australia and half the stuff I read on here I don't get....
Later...

[imported_FROSTY]

your luky im still on here mawz cauz others would tell ya to fuk off.
anyways its a dangerous chemical that eats away at glass. it gives the glass a kinda misty look.
if you tag with it it is stuck on the glass that you tag. many people hate it and many like it so its kinda up to you if ya wanna use it. i decide not to

[ef one]

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[mawsAA]

Alright cool..
We never get anything like that here...

[imported_FROSTY]

ya you mainly see it around newyork because no one gives a shit. teh graff scene is just too big anyways. in little towns though you might not want to use it because its kinda heat. cops will stop at nothing to try and find you. its quite expensive to replace a window. and if you hit enough windows your bound to be in the papers or something

[Harry Potter]

does anyone know how to make meanstreaks, like ones that actually work. I wouldn't mind a yellow or a bright green one.....

[Kaz-N-FX]

can somebody pleez x-plain to me how to make a deodorant marker? plannin on makin muh first marker...

[IntangibleFame]

Originally posted by Kaz-N-FX
can somebody pleez x-plain to me how to make a deodorant marker? plannin on makin muh first marker...

why dont you search for it first?

[jeff123456]

all u ppl that say that u should not use glass etching are wrong...

if u use it and just bust a small little tag in the corner of a window it looks pretty dope but to all u fags that spray it all over and do a shitty job.. u guys wreck it for us

peace

[marker]

dose anyone know how to make meanstreaks

[marker]

straight up india ink and pilot ink make a perfect flat blak

[hypochondriac#1]

I got some stuff from my school called "waterproof black drawing ink" made by a company called chromacryl,(its an australian brand but you could probably get a similar product at art shops in the US). It is a similar consistency to honey, i have added it to my mop and to my posca and it makes a thick, opaque flat black (depending on the ratio used) definately a good find.

[jeff123456]

ETCH BATH OR WHATEVER U WANNA CALL IT ISNT BAD IF U ARE RESPONSIBLE WITH IT... THATS NOT THE RIGHT WORD BUT NEWAYZ...
IF U BUST A SMALL TAG THE SIZE OF U HAND IN THE CORNER OF SOME WINDOW ITS COOL... BUT IF UR GAY AND USE THE WHOLE WINDOW TO DO UR TAG IT JUST LOOKS LIKE SHIT...

ALL U FOOLS THAT DO THAT ARE WRECKING IT FOR US... JUST DO SMALL TAGS THAT THE OWNERS MOST LIKELEY WONT NOTICE...

PEACE

[Tikriminal]

having done chemistry at school, i feel it is my duty to say stay away from hydrofluoric acid.. it doesnt burn your skin, but rather is absorbed until it reaches your bones, which it then proceeds to melt... if you dont want to have to have your hand amputated, stay well away...

remember, i warned you...

[40ozProphet]

If you made a marker for yourself,and you put one of those small metal balls inside to keep the stuff from drying out if your using paint,you could put something inside the marker like a thin layer of sponge to keep it from being loud....I dont know if it would work,but it sure would be cool:king:

[test pattern]

I had an idea to fill a bingo marker with some ink and use that,
but I don't know if i'll do it right.

I have an idea on how to fill it with ink... but I don't know how to
clean the pink ink out of the felt tip.

Any ideas?

[40ozProphet]

im not sure how to do that,ive never worked with a bingo marker...whered you get it from?i havnt seen any places around here that have them.

[40ozProphet]

A cool marker would be to take an empty glue bottle,put some in it,and stuff some sponge or chalkboard eraser felt in there.You could even ad something like bleach to burn your tag into the wall your gonna tag.

[Zodiot]

use your glass etch on transit and transit stops.... you fuckin turds.... its society we are all acting out against isnt it?
There aint windows on boxcars... oh those big boxes...

[marker]

suk me off
hahahahaha

[marker]

yummy lemon yellow ink mmmmmmmmmmm!!!
ps
suk me off

[intercity]

etch is not HCL...
i like etch... using it in a mop is sure for a messy tag, but it works much better in a woodcraft... the best marker on earth - it will hold anything.
i have no problem with etch on say, starbucks/etc, bathroom mirrors... but for you kids hitting small businesses, homes, etc, that's just fucking stupid.

[ASER1NE]

BUMP , there ya go 40oz , took me 10 seconds

[test pattern]

Originally posted by 40ozProphet
im not sure how to do that,ive never worked with a bingo marker...whered you get it from?i havnt seen any places around here that have them.

I dunno, I found it on the street. My grandma used to have alot of them.
They're not really markers, they're those bingo stamper things.

[40ozProphet]

Oh. I'll probably have to go to a bingo hall and play bingo and take one.

[black hook]

ok dudes...all those resipies and shit for making ink and stuff r cool, but it would be a lot easier to jus go out and steal a shoe polish marker...fat nibs and perminite ink, its all there man. if u get the white ones u can mix any latex paint with it to get the color u want...ooo and wat ever u do dont eva eva EVA use those fuckinmagnums...THEY SUCK!!! they fade in a week

[black hook]

where do u get this shit? it sounds wicked sick and i have a couple of windows to hit, is it in a spray can or marker?

[BosVocabOne]

Hi. I am really really really new to the graff scene. Only been here for like 1 1 and a half years. Just finallized my tag. I was wondering If someone would jsut post a thread or a replei jsut explaining to me how to make mops and kiwis. These are all new terms to me so please explain how and what they do.... And please take into consideration, Im like 14-15 so I cant go buy some etch online jsut yet. Im jstu buildin knowledge. Thanks. thanks a million. One...

[imported_super man 1]

boooooooooooooooooooo

[40ozProphet]

I just finished mixing up a white paint marker.It didnt have much paint left,buti made some green ink with brake fluid and put it in,then added a little bleach,then added some nail polish remover....Now it is like a light metallic green that stains real nice...I might add some green nail polish to it to make it darker.

[drutagsalot]

i made a mop and was wonderin if i should rip that little thing on the inside that limits the amount of paint off. i wasnt sure if i should or not so i might as well ask u guys/girls. Dont rag on me either i just dont want my mop to suk. thanx

[mobius]

try it your self, whats the worst thing that can happen

[REGULATOR]

Originally posted by mobius
try it your self, whats the worst thing that can happen

kiwi mops can be racked at walgreens, rite aid, etc in the shoe polish section...empty out the shit inside...fill it up with your ink, take out the pressure reliever under the nib..boom..go wreck damage

[shameless self promotion]

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[ASER1NE]

Originally posted by marker
dose anyone know how to make meanstreaks
are you kidding , if you reall tried to make one you'd probably die from the ....
1. fumes
2. potenial fires / explosions

[NATO]

/ ha ha

[imported_some pittsburgh flavor]

Originally posted by marker
how do you make a meanstreak???


hmm... i wouldn't recommending seeing how you could possibly get burned really badly/die from fume inhalation/make a big fucking mess/ruin some shit you might want to keep. but anyway, just keep this in mind: meanstreaks are basically solidified anti-freeze. if any of you chemical wonders out there want to figure out how to solidify anti-freeze, go right the fuck ahead, but i'd do it in a boy-in-the-bubble type deal.
i think a really dope shade of krink would be made in the following manner:
1. get your standard oil based bucket silver
2. get your standard oil based bucket any other color, i would like to see baby blue or bright orange, possible lime green or pink (keepin it gangster)
3. mix the silver and other color paint to whatever color combination you find most sexual
4. use your favorite thinner or brake fluid, whatever you normally use
5. mop it up
i haven't attempted to yet, but i plan to in the near future.. if anyone trys this, tell me how or if it works.
peace

[BosVocabOne]

I have a question. I bought a Pilot Broad marker and wanted to fill it with somethign white. What would make a good white ink. And please consider im under 18 and have limeted funds. I can get wite bucket paint and white griffen or marsh. Help. I thought mabey white Bucket paint, some green omega ink and some shoe polish mabey some bleach? Thanks for readin. One.

[BABYWANTOKIL]

i saw one of you talking about wheatpaste recipes...and i thought i would put in my 2 cents...though this method is somewhat cruel and un-orthodox, i have always added finely crushed lightbulb glass to my wheatpaste adhesive....i have litterally seen blood on my posters....bloody buffers=good

[40ozProfit]

Your names a little to close for comfort....
I haven't been around long, but longer than you...I'm even at the beginning of this thread...c'mon....:mad:

:mad: you wouldn't like me when I'm angry...:mad:

[40ozProfit]

sorry. i know there's no need for beef on here...but dammit...

[ASER1NE]

dude chill out , its an internet forum.........you only got 32 posts , why not just reregister and change it..........either of you . problem solved

[40ozProfit]

sorry....

:( I just like my name....I used to have that spelling but lost it in the whole encrypted password fiasco...:(

[ASER1NE]

no need to apologize , why dont yall battle for it ( or one of you just give it up ) post flix of it in the bench..........theres plenty of ppl to judge:p

[40ozProphet]

40ozProfit,i didnt even see your name before.when i made my name when i was at this website,i was listening to that sublime song "40 oz to freedom".If you really want me to change my name,i will.

[imported_some pittsburgh flavor]

yeah.... anyway back to the inks and all that jive shit....
krink: what makes it so permanent? i know for a fact it's not just oil based bucket paint and mineral spirits.. tried it. i was talking to the art teacher and the only thing he could think of to make it more permanent would be linseed oil. any thoughts? i know yall are all wbout keeping your shit to yourselves and everything, but help a brother out. <3.

[kracker boy]

usually try to stay away from these threads because of the repetitive questions of what are mops and the like from toys. you kids (meaning the toys) need to experiment quit asking questions on the internet. be creative...think of your own marker design, be original after all innovation will get you a lot more fame than askin questions on here.

p.s. try using a robotussin bottle anf a sock. not telling the exact details but it makes a nice container for about anything. i used silver rusto bucket with some paint thinner and a tinge of pink neon paint

[SilpherGirl]

how about using the stock mixture that's already in a kiwi shoepolish? heard it works pretty good by itself too is that rite? also can nail polish removers be used as paint thinner? if not what can it be possibly used as?

[ASER1NE]

the stock mixture will work , but its pretty weak and comes off easily......its well worth the extra tiome to replace it with your own recipe

ive never tried nailpolish remover , but i reckon it should work just fine .......go try it and tell us how it goes........paint thinner , turpentine (but it eats away at certain materials) i guess nailpolish remover , alchohol , ........uhh theres more , but try some shit out and see how it goes ..........

[imported_super man 1]

put some marsh in it and then rock shit

[BosVocabOne]

has anyone hear ever bought pure pigment. Its just powder. i thought, that, some black marsh, alcohol, and mabey some shoe polish or shine, in any mop, mabey a kewi, or mabey just even a pilot?? anyone ever mess with this shit? think it would work in a pilot jumbo???

[hex]

Originally posted by BERSoner
usually try to stay away from these threads because of the repetitive questions of what are mops and the like from toys. you kids (meaning the toys) need to experiment quit asking questions on the internet. be creative...think of your own marker design, be original after all innovation will get you a lot more fame than askin questions on here.

p.s. try using a robotussin bottle anf a sock. not telling the exact details but it makes a nice container for about anything. i used silver rusto bucket with some paint thinner and a tinge of pink neon paint

but thats the whole point of "the yard" to ask question

[decu goldyn1]

i have a marker modification story
i brough a new pilot recently and the plastic part that holds the nib wouldn't unscrew so being the smart person i am i tried to take i off with a wrench i applied the pressure and the whole plastic part cracked into many peices and the nib fell into my hand -- my lucky day
word of advice learn from my mistakes people :o

[HAL]

Originally posted by BillyBoBob
has anyone hear ever bought pure pigment. Its just powder. i thought, that, some black marsh, alcohol, and mabey some shoe polish or shine, in any mop, mabey a kewi, or mabey just even a pilot?? anyone ever mess with this shit? think it would work in a pilot jumbo???

Pure pigment would work, but you'd need a vehicle for it. That's kind of tricky, because I don't think a vehicle is just alcohol or paint thinner or whatever. It's a composition. My guess is that it wouldn't work very well unless you were experienced with manufacturing paint out of the bases. I know you can buy colorless bases of acrylic or oil paint that you can add pigment to. I really don't know much about making your own paint or ink, but powdered pigment is designed for paint, and I have no idea how it would interact with paint that's already tinted black. I don't think the powder would make it through the nib of a pilot. It would have to be a liquid.

[BosVocabOne]

thanks for the feadback. it would work i bet. but yeah. it probobly wouldnt react well with already black paint. what do you think it would do in bucket paint sealer or mabey some acryllic base with some thinner or some other fluid???

[nick5542]

when you gusy were little did you ever drink those juices that were in little plastic things that looked like barrells? i took an empty one of those and put ink i took from my art room in it, then i took a sock and rolled it upo and taped it in the shape of a cylinder, then i stuffed it in the hole andtaped it sealed. THen i took another piece of sock and put it on tp of the other so it wouldnt leak a lot and taped that, and ta-da thats a bomb ass marker!

[Smart]

ta-da... watch this disappear and then reappear in the 'Marker Modifications' thread...

[nick5542]

sorry bout that and thank you.

[AudiWon]

Is there a wheat paste recipe? I haven't seen one on here. If
anyone has a wheat paste recipe, please tell it.

[BosVocabOne]

There are many all over the place. Here is a good link someone put up. DYI WHEAT PASTING (http://misterridiculous.com/diy/wheatpasting/)

[QUIETMENACE]

take a plastic 12oz soda or water bottle and fill that shit with yur fav't bomb juice , wedge a folded up sponge in the hole and you got that super krazy drip shit...

[AudiWon]

Thank you BillyBoBob!

[BosVocabOne]

Anytime. But thanks whomever posted it first. They get the credit. I just pass it on. This thread is dieng Slowley. Same witht he yard. Its moving slowely. I got a question people. Has anyone ever had baby oil?? In the large bottel?? I thought mabey if I put some kinda filler. A lot of filler so that I would get as few drips and possible, and mabey some black pilot, something else(thats what I need help with), water into it, and a sponge on the tip or mabey just some felt(which is better??) . Do you think this would work? I dont have the money do dish into it if it is a dissaster. Please. Any advice is great.

[nasemoner]

:D :D :D :D :D :D

i made a sunny delight marker like brother above me it worked pretty tight and i made a marker out of that stuff that you use to seal envelopes it worked good cuz it already had the tip and it flowed out nicely.........


has anyone ever tried mixing pilot ink with brake and lighter fluid together? i tried it and i heard that ...that was the potion#9 or something so try it out it works good and its real hard to buff!

[IntangibleFame]

Originally posted by nasemoner
:D :D :D :D :D :D

i made a sunny delight marker like brother above me it worked pretty tight and i made a marker out of that stuff that you use to seal envelopes it worked good cuz it already had the tip and it flowed out nicely.........


has anyone ever tried mixing pilot ink with brake and lighter fluid together? i tried it and i heard that ...that was the potion#9 or something so try it out it works good and its real hard to buff!

Your retarded...go jerk it on a rabbit...

[ctrl+alt+del]

oooooooh he said jerk it on a rabbit. ive never even thought about that. thats classy.

[nasemoner]

hey man it works so chill out and it kinda makes me wonder why peeps trip cuz off stupid things....


and yeah that was classy hehe.....

[deformatron]

supposedly this guys a cop^^^^^^


check the thread about it in the 3rd rail

[nasemoner]

why do everyone think im a cop? i know i ask dumb questions but chill man hey if i had a scanner we would see who the cop was dog it would be so on..........

[imported_FROSTY]

people are really touchy on that subject cauz of the shit thats been going down. if you ask stupid questions we get suspicious

[mr c]

:idea:
LIKE TWO DAYS AGO MY PILOT WAS OUT OF INK, SO I DECIDED TO TRY SOME SHIT OUT.........MY MOM IS A HAIR STYLIST AND SHE HAS THIS REALLY POWERFULL CHIMICAL I THINK IS CALLED PEROXIDE.......I PUT SOME OF THAT SHIT ON MY BLACK PILOT.....AS SOON AS I PUT THAT SHIT INTHERE IT FUKING TURNED WHITE.....AND I WAS TRYING IT OUT ON THE BLACK STUFF AND AS SOON AS THIS FUCKING CHEMICAL TOUCHES ANYTHING IT TURNS IT WHITE OR YELLOW DEPENDING ON THE COLOR OF THE STUFF...............BUT TRUST ME THIS IS THE BEST MARKER IVE EVER MADE...........BUT THE CHIMICAL IS FUCKING STINCKY IT MAKER YOUR EYES WATERY WHEN U OPEN THE PILOT...............................SO TRY IT OUT SEE IF YOU CAN GET ANY OF THAT SHIT AND MAKE YOUR MARKER.......
PEACE
:idea:

[imported_FROSTY]

hmm one might say that could be as bad as glass etch.

ahh whatever i think glass etch can be a wonderfull thing if used responsibly but thats just my opinion

[-CRedZ-]

i've found the best ink 4 a marker is wood stain,wood varnish,rusto paint,metho and silver paint.

the silver makes it look all streaky,the wood stain and varnish make the stain dark as fuk and the metho is a sweet ass fukin stain.

[-CRedZ-]

if you wanna get tha ink out of tha felt just pour sum metho on tha tip
:idea: :loopy:

[SilpherGirl]

does permanent acrylic paint work good as an ink ingredient? they come in those little plastic bottles.

[decu goldyn1]

Does anybody know if thos huge wood work paint markers have good ink to hit up with?

[SPLINTER]

^^^^^^^^

Yes. for the most part its good. flows really well if the tip is filled up good. it not to permanant on glass tho. just use it up on wooden and steel post and stuff and then go ahead and put some others kind of ink in there.

[Fabo 2]

Forget using mops, if you want mad drips use a bingo blotter.

[jhskt]

Has anyone ever put bleach in a paint marker I want to know if it has the same affect on company awnings as it does if you spill it on clothes
You could tag awnings off of hotels and carppets inside wendys =P
Criket .216.

[40ozProphet]

Yeah,I have some bleach in this one paint marker,it doesnt totally mess up the surface,but if you put enough bleach in then if it gets buffed off,you can still see it..

[jhskt]

Thank you I havent had the time to try it but I will definatly get to it now

[colt45oe800]

i just got the sickest marker..
its free for the taken... but for those not charmed with a racking ability i think it'll cost you around a dollar... fill it up with marsh ink or your own personal ink recipe mine is this neon green... but anyway drop it in there and i got drips that are 6 feet tall... soon ill let you kids in on the inside info...

[open1]

stay low key with a chapstick thing... take the shit out the middle.. put a peice of felt from a chalk board eraser in that bitch and ink it up... mine hasnt leaked out the bottom on me yet but it may later... its practical because it would be something some would really carry

DO marker... i removed the deodorant sealed the bottom with a glue gun then put a peice of a sock in it and cut the plastic part that the deodorant sits on and had eraser felt coming out with a small area to put more ink and sealed it all up... then the cap airtights the mufugger


peace out

[1HalfOfMe]

two things, has anyone used just a regular kitchen sponge instead of a eraser for a nib?? i thought an eraser nib would be to thick but enlighten me. Would using "scotch-gard" work to waterproof stickers?does it take longer then clear paint?

[hex]

is there any thin you can add to ink to make it more harder to buff?

[Statistics]

Ive used Woodstain. Black works good. There are other colors. Read the labels and see if there are shitty ingrediants cause some of them suck. But i had a good one in a kiwi. The ink was so thin, i got 6 foots drips. O yeah.

[colt45oe800]

originally posted by hex
is there any thin you can add to ink to make it more harder to buff?
ok i figure i should let you youngins in on something.....
No matter how permanent your ink is... if someone wants to buff it they will buff it, whether its chemical or just painting over it, go steal yourself some marsh ink and use it... no ink is completely permanent its just a fact, so put your tags up and dont worry about a buff cause no matter what its gonna happen

[Statistics]

True.

[zen]

ive used a house hold sponge. you have to get used to using it though. its better, i feel, for drips mainly because you can choose where you want your tag to drip. just push hard on the sponge and voila. sponge works better for ink rather than paint.

[1HalfOfMe]

i know this thread is probably dead but heres my question, someone said you could conbine carbon paper and paint thinner for making your own ink. i have the carbon paper and paint thinner but how many parts to how many parts? i want to use this recipe soon so please reply!

[SPLINTER]

dont waste youre time kid. i spent about a year and still dint get it.

[dauwckauwck]

Originally posted by LAZYBONES
hey thanks for nothing you clench-cheek motherfuckers. I use removable stuff (paint, ink) to crush- I'd use etch for special spots like abandoned buildings with glass fronts but why am I trying to justify myself? You obviously think I'll do shots of this stuff just after I fill up a squirt-gun with the shit and shoot old ladies down at the bingo parlor. Fuck ninnies- rack griffin from walgreens, it's just shoe polish kid.


this shit is funny

[dauwckauwck]

all this etch bullshit is just that.... not only is it not super expensive to clean its very easy to clean this is due to the fact that it takes 72 hours to fully penetrate the glass .. unless the solution is truly perfected with modifications dont worry about these toys they'll wash off in the rain... and dont ask cuz i wont tell...

[artsol]

more funny words from the 'toy'

much prop to all the cats who posted on this thread,I finalearned how to make the classic deodorant marker.

but yo...here's one I just made up that might not work lol

1)beat up a raver
2)take her/his glowstick
3)cut off the top and put ink in it(mixed with the glow shit or u can take it out
4)put a sponge or any other nib in there
5)rock it (glow for a few days or opaque for a longer time...don't get the glow stick goo on u...shit's poison

[Statistics]

Itd work, but ya see, the stuff on the inside of the glow-stick wash's off usually. And there is no way to apply pressure to the inside. There is no valve etc etc etc. So it may work, if the glowstick was thinner than others. But good idea. Original.

[KnowSkilZ]

---> N E good TipZ on Applyin w/o a Mess ???
:king: Good Lookin :king:

[artsol]

no way to add pressure from the inside
no valves
I'm not a mechanic on that tip but what does he mean by these things? I know what a valve is but how does it work in a marker?

Also I've searched and searched and found nothing...what is/ how do I flare out the nib? since i've been rocking storebought paint markers, this idea is foreign to me

is it just changing the |`| to | ?
and if so how do I do it? just cut off a corner?
also with the chapstick marker, I went and bought some higgins waterproof engrossing ink and put it in the marker, but it kept just leaking out of the bottom, no matter how hard I bounded it with tape and sealed every little crack with tape after a few seconds ,drops of ink would come out . Is the ink to watery?

until I get info on that, I'll just pick up a shoe polish applicator

[Statistics]

Yes, But it is most liky the kind of tape you are using. Id just say, put the ink in another mop because its a better bet. You dont want that shit to leak in your pocket and leave your right theigh black.

[artsol]

no doubt...thanks Stats. I'll probably just have to get a hot glue gun for it.[It's been working after I taped a napkin around it and wrapped tape around again and again. But the eraser keeps gettin pushed down into the marker when I put the kap on. fuckit...maybe I could tape the eraser to the marker or something.


but back to my questions...is flaring the nib just cutting it to look like the shape a sanford permanent ink marker has ?| ?
Also in a marker how does the valve work in the mop? What does he mean by pressure? isn't gravity enough?

finally...u cats know if the erasers for dry erase boards work?
They're spongefoam and squeezable, on top it's felt (for erasing) I think that might work better.

[Statistics]

Pressure is just a force. If you squeeze the Marker, and ink comes out the nib, then you just applied pressure. The valve on certain markers is different. As I understand it, on Kiwis etc. They do use gravity to make just solid lines. Not drips. The valve is just a button in the center of the top of the marker, under the nib, and when you press it down, it lets ink flow around it, thus letting ink flow onto the wall. This is mad confusing to type. So if its to confusing, go to a shoe store etc. Get a kiwi. Rip the foam off of the tip, and look at the top piece. Youll know what I mean. As for flares on Nibs, i dont know. I would like to know. Someone please tell us. ANd for a chapstick marker, if your going to be writing that small, get a small deoderant stick, and make a marker out of that. Just make the nib small by keeping the spastic piece (which is supposed to keep the deoderants shape) on the acuall casing, and only make a small nib.

[artsol]

thanks man

[Statistics]

Anytime. I just had a breakthrough idea. Mabey its been done befor. But mad people today in my area are using white out pens for little hands here and there, i thought, why not get a lot of white out, and put it in any mop. Prefereably very small tip/nib. it would be better if it was a plastic of metal nib. Anyone ever tryed this? It would probobly just be better to use a white out pen, but they have so little ink in them. Anyone know?

[test pattern]

Everyone's talking about putting ink in a kiwi bottle, but what about putting paint in there?

You could put some bucket paint in there and a little paint thinner. (If nescessary.)

I tried to do that with a bingo stamper, but I fucked up the tip and I could not find a tip to replace it with. I tried to make one out of some kind of sponge stuff, but it did not conduct the paint very well.

Any ideas on the paint?

I'm gonna try it today. If anyone else has tried it before, please tell me.

[imported_FROSTY]

yo where can a grip a bingo dabber?? im not really in with the bingo scene....

[Statistics]

Well.

1. TEST PATTERN, yes you can. It works just the same. And check your facts befor you make one, because Paint thinner and certian things DONT MIX.

and

2. Frosty, first off, i love the thread. Thanks for starting it. Second, go to like a chepo FIve and Dime Mom and Pops type store. Or even an old folks home.

[test pattern]

Originally posted by FROSTY
yo where can a grip a bingo dabber?? im not really in with the bingo scene....

The bingo scene.. HAHAHAHA!!!

I found mine full on the street when I was outside skating.

Lucky me?

[Statistics]

I found mine in my science classroom at school. Now ive got 2. I dont like them though. Theyre not that good.

[Statistics]

I made an ill paint today. ok. Latex bucket (1 part light green and 1 prat light blue), it makes grey, and Zippo lighter fluid. Its tight. You burn it into any wall. Fire bomb. But u can use it as a normal paint 2. 2 bomb methods in one paint. This is ok for darker surfaces and ok for lighter surfaces .

Yesterday i made a phatty Red/Pink ink/paint. ok. Mix 1/5th of a kiwi black woodstain, then 1/2 of a kiwi White Kiwi polish, water, there shoudl be about 1/3 of the kiwi left. Now put in Red 9or any color you want) semi or perminant hair dye. Now mix and voila. Bomb. But befor you go bombing for hours, this red sucks for dark surfaces, but for lighter stuff, it leaves a nice color and a smooth finish. Some drips. Apply pressure for more.

[ment2]

is there somewhere i can order marsh or griffin without a credit card and shit? :confused:

[Statistics]

Doubltfull unless you find a money order site.

[eessee]

i just mixed lighter fluid, griffin and some marsh and damn its hard to buff and works good on all surfaces........ i put it in a mop with a 3' inch tip and it has mad drips and you dont have flow control but use it on high places when tagging and the drips gives it good effects and its hard to buff unless painted over......

[FoReVeRpHLy]

EASY answer for the big etch question...tagging a wall, train or truck etc. is somethin but ruinging a poor dudes front display window is diferent..even though tagging up somethin harms it..it looks ALOT sweeeeter and it doesnt TOTALLY ruin it.

[crab apple]

if that ''poor dude''saw you writing with a marker do you think he would thank you?fuck no he would try to shut your shit down!!so dont fill sorry for those vatoes,they dont give a fuck bout you.here in cali everyone wants to catch a writer you get paid for that shit!!!!!so fuck everything to shit an crush.

[RY@N]

btw

a good place to find those bingo stampers are in the line at the grocery store! i always see em there.

[eessee]

you can get the bingo dotters at the dollar store...

[Statistics]

No offense to all you bingo champs, but I think they suck. i dont like them. They arent good for tags or anthing. At least the ones that ive seen. Anywho. old halloween pranks that work for tags. hahaha.

1. Ive heard that if u break open a glow stick and put the glow-in the dark liquid onto TAR it is permanent or semi-permanent. Does anyone know if this is true? Im gonna try it out. Ill tell you all the results.

2. If you slap a piece of salamie on a window it leaves a long-lasting oil stain. I thought, why not slap many pieces onto a large window. its dumber than paint and slower but it would just be funny as hell. Hey, lets go salamie-ing......COUGH.........

And another point. Does anyone know of any other tricks for nibs? Like more kinds of flaring or other methods of altering nibs? Ive poked holes in nibs for drips befor. PLease poeple, share the knowledge. And use lighter fluid in mops.

[ment2]

Originally posted by BosVocabOne
I have a question. I bought a Pilot

^^
:D :D

[dapper dan]

1. can you put krink in an empty pilot broad? (assuming you leave in the spongy shit)
2. you can make some nifty little meanstreaks if you melt an oil bar in a pie tin and then pour it into an empty chapstick tube. you should freeze it immediately afterwards, so it hardens without leaking. This is the easiest thing in the world to do and is worth it because you can make a whole assortment of colors if you mix the melted paint. It kinds of stinks so you might want to ventilate the area well. I made 5 in about ten minutes, you should too.
3. I was draining the ink out of a pilot by shoving some tissues in it and leaving it upside down in a plastic cup overnight. In the morning i found a large puddle of red goop where the ink had completely dissolved the cup. beware...

[1HalfOfMe]

what is an oil bar???? and where do u get them>???

[test pattern]

Why would you want one if you don't even know what the fuck it is?

[DONUT2002]

He just asked a QUESTION. It is a stick of oil based material that you can buy at any art store for pretty cheap. But they get rubbed off so id say go buy streaks.

[DONUT2002]

Originally posted by dapper dan
1. can you put krink in an empty pilot broad? (assuming you leave in the spongy shit)
2. you can make some nifty little meanstreaks if you melt an oil bar in a pie tin and then pour it into an empty chapstick tube. you should freeze it immediately afterwards, so it hardens without leaking. This is the easiest thing in the world to do and is worth it because you can make a whole assortment of colors if you mix the melted paint. It kinds of stinks so you might want to ventilate the area well. I made 5 in about ten minutes, you should too.
3. I was draining the ink out of a pilot by shoving some tissues in it and leaving it upside down in a plastic cup overnight. In the morning i found a large puddle of red goop where the ink had completely dissolved the cup. beware...

OK. First. Krink ina pilot might work but you would have to glue some felt or somethign else as a new nib. Second. You would have no way to apply pressure unless you squeezed ur pilot which in turn would krush ir. Making it a one time use marker. That idea is good for the streaks. Thanks.

[Statistics]

What are some off your best items youve used for mops? My best are Universal Highliter bottle, Glue Conatiner, and Rubbing Alcohol container.

[ment2]

one of those long glue stick things... i havent tried that one yet though... i made one out of part of the glue sitck nozzle thingy and a little sample hair conditioner bottle...



oh yeah, also... pilot ink + mop = 1/2 way see through tag = ugly shit
use thicker ink with mops allways, pilot ink is way too thin... at least for me...

speaking of ink, has anyone seen griffin and shit like that in an art store or do you have to mail order? any cash mail orders?:o

[the shitz]

ay those r good combonations but where do u get india ink if anyone has tips i like near la

[imported_super man 1]

1.krink will not work in a pilot broad

2. Its all about slim jim tags, greasy as shit and doesn't get buffed, it catches dust and shit hell a ill

[freeze]

i've been experimenting with the whole mop deal a bunch lately. the best thing that i've been able to create (though i am by no means an expert) was out of a glue stick container. i just emptied out all of the glue, filled it with my ink, used felt as the nib, and put the cap on that bitch. i tried a chapstick container and it fucking leaked everywhere. the gluestick didn't leak at all and it was thick as hell. that's my two cents.

[Statistics]

Hey guys, what do you use to attach nibs in mops? I tried Spray adhesive, and rubber cement but neither work.

[imported_soopafeen]

tight.

[artsol]

still can't get that fuckin chapstick/gluestick to work. the only way i've got it to work was to just hit the nib with the applicator from the shoepolish and go out. Couldn't make the 2 things markers though...they kept leaking.


OH! and the bingo dabber is the shiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiit.

[BMA.Ever]

Can anyone post a pic of their VHS Marker?

[mos_j1]

VHS Marker?hahaha thats gotta be big as fuck!!I just use Kiwi mops and magnums.Cant go wrong!:D

[imported_fr8burner]

Originally posted by DONUT2002
He just asked a QUESTION. It is a stick of oil based material that you can buy at any art store for pretty cheap. But they get rubbed off so id say go buy streaks.

your wrong you cant wipe off a oil bar.....go try and find out....i use them all the time.....your thinking of oil pastels....

[eessee]

oil bars are mad cool... they hard to buff like shit.. i use them on the insides of local metro transit and they still running and u can see when they tried to buff it cuz the cleaners liquid streaks are around it....

[mos_j1]

im gonna have to get some oil bars.i hear that rit sucks real fuckin bad.

[KIND]

Originally posted by mos_j1
VHS Marker?hahaha thats gotta be big as fuck!!I just use Kiwi mops and magnums.Cant go wrong!:D

[mos_j1]

mini and ultra wides are nice..flow pens are pretty tight too!

[Dirty_habiT]

I've got some green acrylic paint in a tube, and it says to thin with water. I figured that water doesn't evaporate as fast as some of the solvents that could be used, so I tried lacquer thinner first, that didn't work. Then I tried just paint thinner, that didn't work. The paint would not mix, it just stayed in a blob.

What would you say would thin this "thin with water" acrylic, besides water (smart asses). Mineral spirits? Acetone?

[Statistics]

if you get that to work, tell me how, because the acrylic is water based, so the solvents wont mix. At least, thats what i think.

[artsol]

my current ink deally is : crappy ink in the Bingo Dabber, Peroxide, Bleach,Peroxide and Dishwashing liquid...although the so called crappy ink of the bingo dabber is part of the recipe, it's good...the drips are ill, the consistency is nice, and supposedly the bleach/peroxide will make a ghost when / if it's buffed

[Dirty_habiT]

How about this, how does one go about getting pilot ink out of clothing? Oxiclean is bullshit, that shit didn't budge the black stain. I used lighter fluid but that just made the stain bleed. Oh, well, I've got a new pair of painting draws if I can't get that negroness out my pants.

--I'm black where it counts.

[dremster]

call me a fool if you will, but i have a question, yesterday i was bored, had an old bottle of black griffin sitting around. so i took this wack ass magnum and put a hole on one end and dumped the griffin in. it seems wetter i guess. any suggestions on how to realy get the flow going on this marker?????

[Statistics]

What do you mean by FLOW??

[Statistics]

Originally posted by ASER1NE
ALRIGHT SINCE IM NICE I'LL START THIS OFF.....................

Deadly Recipes:
Ok...ive read through alot of ink recipies...but why don't people melt...Well i tryed it....here it goes...fallow steps in order so you don't blow yourself up jackass!

First you well need...some kind of metal tin,A lighter...kiwi white shoe polish...the rub on kind,A white meanstreak, some opaque white paint,and white marsh or griffin...

Go outside so you dont get cancer a year later.
Cut off a small peice of mean streak.
Throw it in the tin.
Get about a fifth of the lil white shoe polish can in the tin...Light the shit on fire...let it melt down...not till it boils....jack ass..and blow it out
quickly pore into somethin and add opaque paint.
Stir together...add white griffen or marsh...mix well add terpintine and a lil thinner...you figure out how much....pore into mop or marker...And BAAAAAM!...oh yea....make sure you dont light yourself on fire...I'm not responsibul if your ass stupid ass me and try this...but works great...vary permanet...if you do it right.

************************************************** ********

just look...ype the word ink and you have everything you need
but here is one

props to the graff inventor!

1. get a big mixing bowl or somethin.
2. get something to stir with like a stirrer
3. mix together all of the following-

-black india ink
-some marsh or whatever similar brand of ink
-purple rusto paint
-GLITTER, lots of glitter
-your fav color of hair dye
-crack open a HI-LITER and dump the ink in
-maple syrup, not Aunt Jemima, but the real maple syrup thats nice and runny

There it is. The amounts of each can be changed depending how much of each you have. Pour it all into your mop or try freezing it and see if it will work like a meanstreak. Anyways, the glitter makes the ink look bad ass and all sparkly in the sun. The maple syrup is for consistency. The HI-LITER ink puts a weird look on the overall ink. I suggest adding in some metal balls or something to shake so the rusto paint and maple syrup stay nice and smooth. Anyways, go ahead and mix it up and pour it into your mop. Shake it up and go bomb. Remember, even though it has tasty maple syrup in it, do not consume this ink. You will get a bad stomache ache. Have fun with the graff inventor death ink and lets all make a big deal out of this like Krink. WOO HOO!

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I've had good results with mixing about 2/3 lacquer thinner with 1/3 alluminum rusto bucket paint. I made a really cool metallic blue, runny paint. It worked well...except if you let the marker sit unused the shit will dry up the sponge/nib. Also, the glitter shit in your ink....I'm just wondering how would the little metal flakes get through the nib, or whatever....maybe your were just joking.

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VHS MARKER
Ok. Here's the recipe.

Materials:
VHS tape
screwdriver
exacto knife
craft glue gun and glue sticks (or epoxy)
duct tape
lots of your favorite ink
old sock, or other filler
2 chalkboard erasers

You are better off getting one of the VHS tapes with the plastic sleeve, since that's inkproof. First, you pull off the cover that protects the exposed tape. This is where the chalkboad erasers will go. Next, unscrew the tape and take everything out. What you want to do now is use the duct tape and epoxy to seal off the interior, so it won't leak all over you. Don't put the tape back together yet. You need to cut all the plastic junk out, so you can stuff the tape case with filler, and insert the eraser felt. Use the utility knife for this. Remember! Cut away from yourself, so you don't sever an artery or something. Once you're pretty sure the felt will fit into the marker, put it together and seal the edges with the epoxy, and then tape over it.
Ok. We're about halfway there. Now that you have a completely sealed container for your ink, you can cut up your filler and stuff the tape with it. The less you put in, the drippier your marker will be, since there's less to soak up the ink. 3/4 full is a pretty good amount. Now you're ready to put n the nub, or marking surface. Cut up the chalkboard eraser so that it fits into the space. You have to use a full one, and cut some from the second to fill up the remaining space. Once you got this all together, you can epoxy it in place. If you want itto hold together longer, epoxy all the eraser pieces together. Sometimes they fall apart if you don't do this. Make sure the epoxy makes a nice seal around, so all your ink doesn't leak out when you try to write.
Now you can fill with ink and start writing. You shouldn't use this to vandalize other people's property, because that's illegal, and you can get arrested. If you do, that's not my fault. (disclaimer) Have a lot of ink, because it takes a lot to fill this bad boy. Two of the marsh ink bottles from 7th Heaven will do the trick.
Cover with the case the tape came with.

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This thread inspired me to make a kiwi mop and it works fine... if you're making your first one just remember to have towels handy, and a sink nearby, but do it outside.. My shirt got a little paint on it, as well as the ground and i ended up needing two more containers... Maybe I'm just retarded..

Oh, Also, you can get the carchalk marker things that are for car windows... pop the tops open on those, and put a little paint thinner and bucket paint in em... works just the same, but holds slightly less than a kiwi.

Bonus: leave a little bit of shoe polish in and use paint which is opposite in color for a nice tyd-dye ish swirly effect on your mops =] Goodluck!

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Kiwi slush buster is the shit... its clear and you need to add ink to it or bucket aint then you can destroy. also here is a recie for silver ink that rocks hard.
Take a Kiwi Bottle or experts edge shoepolish since it seems to have a dripping mechanism built in or any kind. take off the sponge. Remove the pushy aparatus thing that controls the flow....now it will drip like crazy. You have to cut it out and this should all be done with gloves because painthinner is involved. next take your bucket of rusto bucket silver. drop about half of it into the empty container. drop in a marble or a bolt. Now go outside with the paint thinner as this is seriously toxic shit. Then add it so the bottle is about 3/4 the ways full and then drop in some runny varnish from the hardware store. This should produce an increadibly permanent wet drippy mother fucker of destruction! Have fun be safe and good luck!

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here's a VERY simple one that works well enough.
Go shop(lift)ting and get a Sanford Inker. It's used to prime rubber stamps. Don't get the one with the ball, that looks like womens deodorant, get the one with a spongy material. It's made squeezable. Oh, get two caps. Then cut the top off the two caps, mount them together and use the good old chalfboard eraser to fill the cap that doesn't screw onto the bottle. Use hot glue to bind the two caps together.

this will make a mini-mop with a solid dot that has a 1 inch diameter. Clean, effective,
and the amount of flow is constantly adjustable.

But you will want to find a way to add some stickyer ink.

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WHEATPASTING
Ingredients:
1 cup of wheat flour
1/2 cup of rice flour
3 teaspoons of cornstarch
2 cups of water

Combine wheat flour, rice flour, and water in a pot on the stove on low heat. The mixture should be very watery. Stir the mixture constantly with a wire whisk until the paste begins to thicken just a tiny, tiny bit. This may take about ten minutes. Take the pot off of the heat when you start to feel the mixture thickening. In a jar with a lid, combine three teaspoons of cornstarch with a half of a cup of water. Tighten the lid and shake the mixture until there are no lumps of cornstarch that are visible. Add the cornstarch mixture to the flour mixture and stir for another two minutes. Now you are done. Your arm may get tired, so I suggest that you do this with someone else so that you can switch off stirring.

I cannot emphasize the importance of stirring enough. Yes, it is tiring, but don't stop. First post of the thread, i thought mad new people proboboly dont even bother to look through the entire thead. But I have a question, is this true?

leave a little bit of shoe polish in and use paint which is opposite in color for a nice tyd-dye ish swirly effect on your mops =] Goodluck!

I want to know if this works??

[EwhORE]

I got etch bath and some kinds of garden marker that you do designs on pots with, well I emptied that out and filled it with etch, its great, if you dont push on the nib too hard it comes out perfect with a nice drip, drys pretty fast too, i also have a window chalk thing, i emptied that out, and im going to go fill it up with etch now too, and after that im going to go start making my vhs marker, ill try and post back sometime with some flix of all this stuff... stay up. EORE .es.vk.otk

[endlus values on that]

[REZK one]

ok i was wondering how to flare the tip of a pilot broad or a uni paint marker if anyone can answer this question without using the word toy i'll give you a cookie. peace

[JoeHatesCops]

i laways thought a flared tip, was just a busted up nib that was well used, like on silver paint pens I drag it acorss some rough concrete a few times to flare it out.

[REZK one]

yeah that's what i was thinking i just wasn't sure if there was some sort of skill to it of not, it sounds like it's just another thing that you go for it and see what happens.

[WhOZE]

PILOT MARKERS ARE THE SHIZNIT...WHOZE?

[Dirty_habiT]

maybe use a knife to cut the fibers apart, to make it easier to smash down, and the tip will spread apart. normally this makes your marker write like shit, but I'd say over fill it with ink (of your choice) that way, no matter what, ink will come out when you catch your toy tag....ooops I don't get a cookie...fuck!

[Canadiano]

what the fuck? griffin, shoe polish, candle wax with egg yolk, india ink, etch, mixing tin with meanstreak inside, WHAT THE FLYING FUCK???!!!

If only you guys could channel your energy towards something useful, like gaining skills in a trade, or even into your bombing style...(not directed at everyone, but I find it amusing, when assuming that half these kids chill up in their rooms mixing egg yolk with black shoe polish for hours on end, rather then going out and bombing with paint on some sweet spots).

[Canadiano]

The furthest I'll modify my Pilot is to cut a strip off the middle with an exacto knife to make it look coooool.

The furthest I'll modify my scotch is a tad bit of water in it.

[REZK one]

yeah good idea, i'll do that...put water in my scotch.

[Spemz]

what exactly is a mop?:confused:

[Statistics]

A M-O-P is a container for paint or ink. Like the Body of a marker. The nib is the tip that you write with. blah blah blah. Today im gonna make a straight kiwi. Im micing blue bucket with white shoe polish and mabey some water. to make is a lighter blue. I hope this doesnt get fucked. But whateva.

[Spemz]

Alright man thanks

[Statistics]

Anytime. I just made a white kiwi with just a tint of green, and really really deep blue kiwi and a brown kiwi with a tint of red. I used Providoin Iodine Solution (sp?) to make the brown kinda red. It stained a towel i have like a bitch and i thought it would do the same to a white suface or lighter color wood. Its used as a cleaner for cuts and wounds.

[whoami]

Any of you ever empty them zigs and fill them with Marsh, or Krink?, How do you get that pressure applier to not work, just take it out?

[Statistics]

If you take it out sometimes the nib will just press back into the marker and its useless until you put it back, i just thin my krink utnil its THINNNNNNN.... that works. Do u mean the krink you buy or the krink u make? Cause i make krink.

[whoami]

the krink you make...whats your ingrediants?

[Statistics]

ive heard people say that krink is just silver bucket adn thinner to them, but to me krink is any bucket and thinner or water. Depends. Right now i only have latex house bucket. So im using that and water and some other random shit occasionally. What about you??

[test pattern]

I use oil based bucket paint and rubbing alcohol.

I have no paint thinner.

[fizm]

anyone ever used japan drier?

[B_As_In_Bot]

this is a mop question: Would there be much point in flaring out a square nib? I only have 1 of these square nibs..so I dont want to take any chances fucking it all up.

[imported_FROSTY]

Holly shit this threds getting pretty big. I started it and didnt even bother checking it that often

[Statistics]

Yea frost. Yo shit brings mad education to people who are either new or just lookin for some infomation. And what do you mean by FLARING a square nib? Like, Smashing it or cutting lines in it or something else??

[Statistics]

I got an idea, that if it works, will be dope. If you put Latex and Oil based paints into a mop, what will happen? I only have latex but am hoping to get some oil mistints soon enough. Will the paints chemicaly react and be useless? Or will one sit ontop of the other, cause if this is the case, you could probobly shake up your mop and the paints would swirl, making you, a tyedye mop. Anyone ever tried or heard of this?

[wutangbanger]

pilots are dope straight up so damn juicy i used em on a broken tv on the screen that shit turned out dope

[yoink]

i just made my first two color meanstreak so im happy bout that, i got two in the mail today and id never used em before i just have markers, so i put the two i got together (purple and black) and they came out smooth as fuck..there pretty nice...i just wanted to share my accomplishment...:rolleyes: :D by the way i tried poking holes in marker tip to get the flow thicker but that wasnt working too well any suggestions?

[Grafn4Fame]

IF THE WHOLE TYE-DYE MOP EXPERIMENT WORKS THE THAT GUY IS A FREAKING GENIUS...........SOMEONE E-MAIL ME AND LET ME KNOW HOW THIS SHIT GOES....THANKS:king:

[yoink]

do you mean leaving some of the original kiwi in and mixin paint and or other ink of the different color? i did it once with a mop i made out of paint but i didnt get much swirl, i figure i did it wrong and probably didnt leave as much as i shoulda...but the mop still came out good.

[..oX..]

Originally posted by wutangbanger
pilots are dope straight up so damn juicy i used em on a broken tv on the screen that shit turned out dope

yeah as long as you keep em inked up... i forgot for a while and i was like why the hell is this shit so sticky... but i got the juices now...:eek: :crazy:

[yoink]

what did you put in your pilot? do you have a fav ink mix? im just wondering cause i have a pilot thats done basicaly and a sakura fat marker and i really want to make them better but ive only fucked up trying to do it, so i was just wondering what you got goin on with yours...aright :confused:

[yoink]

ive read this thread, but im just looking for a simple mix,
i love mops but with the markers i never get a nice result, so im looking for a nice "juicy" :D mix ...thats all...:cool:

[Statistics]

I mean, using 2 paints in one mop. One latex based, and one oil based. I dont know if they will chemicaly react and be useless or if it will be tie die but i hope to figure it out.

[yoink]

statistics: yeah i just reread your post and saw what you were reffering to, i was thinking of a much earlier post maybe different thread, shit i dontknow, im not sure how they would act with eachother but if you find anything cool post it up :)

[Statistics]

I think i remember the post u are talking about. Someone said that if you mix shoe polish and paint of the opisite color that it would be tie die but i really doubt that works. At least, it didint work for me

[wutangbanger]

yea i put some painters touch little buck paint in my mop shit wouldnt even come out it was toooooooooo thick fuck i wasted all that paint too.. i will never will be able to make a mop unless i got some pilot ink or marsh on me..

[yoink]

my last two mops were little rusto bucket paints, one white one blue, the white one came out perfect it was drippy and super smooth but the blue one i put in too much paint thinner and it came out really liquidy and shitty...i wanna try a different kind next time..

[wutangbanger]

yo bro yoink what kind of shoe cleaner did u use i think mine was messed up or something it was a black kiwi i re call..

[yoink]

my first one was a black kiwi, i left a little in, (didnt mtter cause it didnt work anywyas) and i put in the paint and a little thinner, then i used two small but heavy screws to mix and it was great...i have two white kiwis right now one im goin to make with paint and theother im looking at this board for good ink recipes..but yeah it was a black kiwi

[wutangbanger]

thats fuckin messed up i think my paint was thick as hell shit wouldnt even come out it was painters touch i put some mineral spirits or something in it and nothing still dint come out it came out all spongey not like thick on the surface ..

[yoink]

did you shake it up? i dontknow maybe it was the base paint you used i think the pain i used was oil based,...i dontknow if that coulda made a dif, by the way i got a question what do you use in your pilots?

[wutangbanger]

yo yoink yea i`ll probaly just buy some marsh ink off the interent and use it in a mop. fuck it.. but just buy/rack some pilot ink they had some at this office depot or something like that in my hood and just put it all in there.. i think marsh and omega work in pilot too.. i aint a big marker head..

wu tang banger

[yoink]

aright man yeah im goin to do that, mine (pilot) is dry and im sick of the color, ill fuck with it....:D

[wutangbanger]

haha cool do it.. i got myself like 4 pilots from this kat in skoo i fuckin appreicte it i got like 2 5 bucks which was my lunch money.. and the other 2 for like 2 bucks each or somehting..

[Statistics]

I just made a tight mop. I used this little antibiotic applicator thing that was empty, and put mostly bleach, then just a little liver krylon shortcut. I hope it works...

[imported_freeque]

Originally posted by colt45oe800

ok i figure i should let you youngins in on something.....
No matter how permanent your ink is... if someone wants to buff it they will buff it, whether its chemical or just painting over it, go steal yourself some marsh ink and use it... no ink is completely permanent its just a fact, so put your tags up and dont worry about a buff cause no matter what its gonna happen

You should take a trip to London and jump on the tubes matey. Take a look at the state of the insides round here. Some killer stainers being used that the cleaners just give up trying to buff. Short of taking out and replacing the pannels, that stuff is just not coming out.

I think OHP projector ink may be a favourite. Inferno and Fibbins as well.

[REZK one]

i just got a new posterman and i drained it and cleaned it out, but 1/8th of the nib down in the corner absorbed some of the waterbased ink. i wanna put some oil based ink in it but i know that oil based and water based will clump up when put together. so will it still work? i'll prolly try it anyway but is there anyway to clean the inked part of the nib?

[nickonium9]

A friend of mine has this deoderant container that has a rolling ball on the top to applicate deoderant...I'm thinking that if one was to make a marker out of it'd be awesome as hell. Anyone tried this before/had any luck?

[NameDroppah']

This thread is so fucken tight.

[misery#3]

What is the best way to make a nib? and how can you fasten them into the mob? I want to make some desiel markers but i am having trouble with my own ideas.

[ASER1NE]

theres just so many ways dog , from sponges and mops , to straw and felt .........just think of things that absorb liquid and arent very dense .

fastening as far as im concerned is all about epoxy , or a hot glue gun , preferably the former .

[misery#3]

thans for the tips aser i will try them

[nickonium9]

I have some Sanford Pocket Accent highlighters. There isn't any true liquid ink, it's all absorbed in these weird fiber strings....well, anyways: I broke one open to use for liquid for, but there was none so I used the fibers and stuck them in a large pen top(clear), and added some hair dye. I haven't tried it yet, and don't think it'll be anywhere near buff-proof, but it's to the point where there's liquid in the bottom, and the fiber acts to hold it in, AND work as a nib...pretty awesome.

[Statistics]

Techniqly, isnt a highliter or any other marker, the same as a pilot esentially? Its a casing, with felt holding the ink, and a nib. Im gonna get some ink and wash out a mr. Sketch and see if it works.

[nickonium9]

I've never heard or even thought of a marker having felt holding ink...I always just assumed there was a resevoir. I've been meaning to go by a store and get one of those Mini M&M containers to use for a mop. What have people found to be really good containers for mops?

[misery#3]

On the higlighter idea how is the ink/paint supposed to get into the nip to be user friendly?does it just absobe into it ?

[nickonium9]

Yeah, it seems to just absorb--which is odd, because the nib doesn't seem very absorbant... But those fibers are fun as hell to mess around with, they work well, but aren't permenant(at least you can test the nib before you put in more permenant dye).

[nickonium9]

I'm currently making a marker using this (http://www.stabilo.com/stabilo.com/icons/products/highlighter/boss/product.jpg), by taking the nib out, making the hole wider, and melting the black curvy thing back to the body. Now I just gotta make some ink, find a ball bearing or marble, and put in a nib(sock).

[Statistics]

That might work. If its squeezable. For the nib thing, Just use some pilot. A few drops and some water into the ink felt/fiber thing that hold the ink, and put the nib on. Ur set. Well, there are more steps but u know yea. As for things to use as mops, use mops. Im telllin ya, BIG tags with minimal time. Sloppy as fuck. Im gonna us a sponge with a bucket of ink this spring. On one wall. Im gonna do a border and shit. Its gonna be ill.

[dahighlifdhl]

nice f-ing recipes


doktor said i was ill
diagnosis graffiti

[cite2k]

whats that wheat paste all about?..sounds fun

[OsCaR306]

wheat paste recipie: http://www.tripnet.com/q-nasty/best-of/whtpst.html

[Statistics]

Originally posted by cite2k
whats that wheat paste all about?..sounds fun

No offense, but there was a wheat paste thread.

[JUWSE]

Originally posted by acke
has anyone ever used a shoe polish mop? i made one but the ink bubbled and it looked like shit, any tips? you need to empty out the kiwi and put some ink into it.:rolleyes:

[Statistics]

Originally posted by acke
has anyone ever used a shoe polish mop? i made one but the ink bubbled and it looked like shit, any tips?

There are COUNTLESS and i mean COUNTLESS threads let alone posts in this thread alone relating to kiwis and shoe polish mops. Just put some paint (ANY KIND) into a mostly empty kiwi and put the top on. VOILA!!!

[acke]

man that pez kid must think im a fuckin toy or sumthin. :mad: oh well thanks stat:idea:

[misery#3]

Here is a little something to think about. Cities either a. clean boxes off or b. they paint over them. Here is my question to all of you. Is there anything that you can put in the mop and mix with the ink or paint that would keep from having paint stay and dry over your name? There is this paint out there for anit graff that doesnt allow you to spray and hae your shit dry? Have you ever heard of this being done? I thought it would be one sick marker if you could write on something taht couldnt be painted over or buffed off.