LDS (Something a little different )

[imported_locationtwelve]

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[imported_IVO AKM KILLERZ]

bump bump bump!

[Abracadabra]

i don't like it at all. i mean, i know it's ugly for a reason, but i don't dig it.

[imported_Europe]

Island monkees... Keep it rolling

[Vlad]

nice indeed...

[Dusty Lipschitz]

i like the doll
dont ask why, i just do...

[chester copperpot]

yeah lds is dope, i remember trying to do some shit like that a few years ago when i first ran into that shit on enigma. lots of people in the u.s. have been going that route lately, signiture styles, disgusting clouds, early/ mid 70's replica looking shit. etc. etc. lds was way ahead of the game, before? or around the same time maybe that tie and red/kil etc. decided to get nasty, but they took that shit so much further than anyone was down to take it at the time. much props, respect, etc. to lds.

they seem like the main crew that was doing lots of wholecars, panels etc. on a certain type of uk train from looking at enigma issues, i know some are harder than others out there, are they doing the more hectic ones?

[imported_locationtwelve]

>> , i know some are harder than others out there, are they doing the more hectic ones <<

I guess they are better known here for their London Underground (subway) stuff than their commuter trains.

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[Hated Pigeon]

Whats happening with L12?

[imported_locationtwelve]

Nothing for the forseeable future.

[bigguy]

Im alitle confused...

Whuts the Years on those?

Practice on walls...

Where has style gone?

The first doll is hype!

[socks]

ha ha ha

-get out of my garage you scallys.

-what's that? how rude.

-oh no dont take my spray bombs you vandelous
scally you.

-come back here.



--- As far as i can tell this group of ten youths (aged 5-9) must have boosted some poor old man for his tractor paint and on the way back to daycare found some choo choos to write the names of their favorite toys and animals on etc.---

daring little bastards those scallywags.
he he

[Wilt]

none of it is fucking "hype" its all garbage..that is a side of europe graffiti that i hate.its dumb...take your talentless asses home.un bump.

[metalcru4evr]

they remind me of a2m in a way. I dont want to dis on those fellas because they are really good artists, but they all have a style that looks like shit. I know they can paint because I have seen some really good shit, but it seems like they are trying to make their stuff look like crap. I guess it's a style thing. In all honesty I think this stuff looks like crap, what exactly are they trying to prove? If they want it to look weird and artsy, then they need to realize that there is a line between that and crap, and they seem to have stumbled onto the crap side of the line.

SOrry if this makes no sense, it sounded good in my head.

[imported_SKUMBALUCKAH]

A few of these guys can rock more traditional styles no problem, I think they are just having a laugh. I find it amusing anyway, it deffinetly starts people talking while they sit back and lap up the attention!!

funny stuff. :D

[i hate lert]

im lost

[NATO]

ha ha ha ha ha

[ope]

YUK
BLAH
BOOOO


garbadge grade school graffiti

[GOLEM]

If you have the oppurtunity to paint subs why do whack styles on them on purpose?

[40 oz king]

those are fucking awesome

[OZEK]

so bad they're good:D

[another loser]

Originally posted by Wilt
none of it is fucking "hype" its all garbage..that is a side of europe graffiti that i hate.its dumb...take your talentless asses home.un bump.
werd.
oh wait, this is a quote from wilt, i just realized that!
WASSUP WILT!!!

[binaryheresy]

aiight... i like all the sarcastic comments, but what we are all thinking is why the fuck waste a perfectly nice train to that shit? it may be funny, but not to all of us. i would rather see a nice wholecar badass prod on there or something, not some shit like that. sorry. my 2c worth.

[GOLEM]

Originally posted by binaryheresy
aiight... i like all the sarcastic comments, but what we are all thinking is why the fuck waste a perfectly nice train to that shit? it may be funny, but not to all of us. i would rather see a nice wholecar badass prod on there or something, not some shit like that. sorry. my 2c worth. Exactly those cats in Euro got those subs that run for awhile and their wasting their space and paint on shit like that when they know they can do better? This is just stupid, or I just value subs more then them...

[imported_Jerk182]

is lds having more fun than you?
probably. (this shit wins!)
-jerk182

[5th wheel]

i agree "metalcru4evr"........but i guarantee all of you this is where most graf will be in the next 5 or so years...its sad...everyone jumping on the sloppy style bandwagon.......keep doing what your doing though...

[T.T Boy]

i think this is hilarious, i mean theyre just having fun, this si something id do if i was tanked with my boys in london or england, just go scribble some funny shit on a train and have a good laugh, its almost a joke that only writers would get. i doubt its meant to be artsy. this is mad funny. ive seen it been done here before, i think the blackest white guy posted that "hip hop dont stop" e2e a while back, i guess it kind of relates to that.

[Night Shift]

i'm not really feelin it and i'm glad because I respect LDS for not biting our american style.. of actual skills in graffiti.

[Hated Pigeon]

Originally posted by GOLEM
Exactly those cats in Euro got those subs that run for awhile and their wasting their space and paint on shit like that when they know they can do better? This is just stupid, or I just value subs more then them...

Pieces very rarely run on the London Underground and if they do its only for a few hours. I've noticed the train companies over here will tend to buff burners and run wack shit. That may be the thinking behind LDS, just doing it to take the piss! Anyway some of these boys were doing "proper" tubes a long, long time ago...

[imported_locationtwelve]

As controversial as ever ... good stuff

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/tubes/2/large/t33.jpg'>

[octopusone]

Originally posted by Night Shift
i'm not really feelin it and i'm glad because I respect LDS for not biting our american style.. of actual skills in graffiti.

This sounds like a typical neanderthal American response... you're a world away from these time constrictions, let alone making it through razor fences, motion sensor trips, dogs, cameras, helicopters, crawling through a mile of shit in some tunnel a mile below the city... Just to have maybe 10 mins in the yard for them to probably never even run it. You're probably to busy painting some freight with interlocking arows and all that boring shit that takes all the humour and fun out of graffiti that only ever passes from nowhere to nowhere for a load of redneck farmers to ignore. The London tubes if they do run, run through central stations where fat American tourists suddenly drop there McDonalds, thousands of businessmen waiting on the platfrom get all confused and don't know if they should even get on the metro which is something you'll never experience.. Now this ain't to say these are the styles that I'd drop on a tube but I ain't gonna sit behind my computer bitchin' about 'em... Locationtwelve let's see those abstract ones that were on your site a while back they were ill.:D

[imported_locationtwelve]

These ones ... well a couple at least :)

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/23-11-2001/large/4.jpg'>

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/23-11-2001/large/1.jpg'>

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/23-11-2001/large/6.jpg'>

[KRAUT]

ah now I remember why I hate most english graff. Thanks for reminder.

[catwash]

personally I really don't like LDS pieces, props for getting out there and doing their own thing (and a lot of it) but it's really not my thing. ergh. Used to really like Ano's pieces (under his other name) but never been a fan of Dodo in any of his guises.

[chester copperpot]

im not suprised people hate this shit, but i love it, and think they were way ahead of their time. lots of u.s. writers have jocked their shit whether they know it or not, 2nd, 3rd hand maybe....but it came from these guys (maybe a european guy could even pull out an earlier crew the influenced these dudes?). "good" writers everyone looks up to have incorporated shit into their pieces that was forgotten untill these guys brought it back out. how can you not like it, its so funny, you guys take shit too seriously.

[bigguy]

Originally posted by chester copperpot
, you guys take shit too seriously.

Yeah for shure props for doing it..


but you gotta take shit serioussly.

Quallity vs quantity...few years down the road you wont have the freedom to roll in to a spot with pizza pies and shit...

And who will be the ones to blame?

Dont let the fish fry!

[chester copperpot]

Originally posted by bigguy


Yeah for shure props for doing it..


but you gotta take shit serioussly.

Quallity vs quantity...few years down the road you wont have the freedom to roll in to a spot with pizza pies and shit...

And who will be the ones to blame?

Dont let the fish fry!

i'm pretty certain the trains they're painting are a no picnic. i remember hearing crazy ass chase stories from years ago. they rock them hard, big, lots from what i've seen in pictures, maybe they just let out their flix more than others in england, but they definately seem like they've been on point for lots of years, steadily on that same type of shit. so i can only assume that they definately know what they're doing, and do it for a reason. i could be wrong, i dont know them.

[octopusone]

Originally posted by bigguy



Quallity vs quantity...few years down the road you wont have the freedom to roll in to a spot with pizza pies and shit...




I don't know where this misconception has come from that the whole of Europe is like a walk in the park... certain poor countries in Eastern europe perhaps, but from accounts of people who've painted both the London Underground is as hard if not harder to paint than the NY subway and is certainly the toughest in Europe... If Europe is so easy then why is it that Americans who come over here usually manage to get very little done even though a lot seem to pay Europe a visit? Sure they get a few street hits; some throwups and tags but apart from maybe Reas and Grey I've seen very little train action from Americans in Europe and correct me if I'm wrong but I can't think of any Americans hitting any subways for a very long time.. :confused:

[vynlone]

props to those crazy lds boys. My opinion of their stuff has gone from "what is this shit!" to "nice a new lds thingy to fuck up everyones mind on what "good" graff is". I'm not saying i'd rather see LDs than a DDS windows down but at the end of the day its all about fun and to be honest who cares if no one likes those tube hits....its not like they will be running for very long is it? (probably about the time it takes to get to the buff after rush hour).
BUMP BUMP BUMP FOR LDS AND THOSE TUBE SOLDIERS THAT STILL SMASH IT..
Tell ya what though anyone else wonder how dope a Cope2 panel would look on the Central or Circle line? I have!

[imported_b0b]

Respect to LDS, not for the styles as I think it is awful, but there is a Revs interview somewhere in which he goes on about too many writers being too insecure and caring about what everyone thinks too much. In the interview he says fuck what others think, do whatever you want. Because while everyone is at home talking about them and their wierd styles, they have got panels running on the subway. They were doing wholecars on the subway when everyone was saying it was impossible to do panels. When yards started gewtting even hotter they went to do panels on the backjump, which only a very few people were doing. They have been having runners for years on the subway and they really don't care what you all think. Infact the "revival" on the tubes in London is directly down to them (whatever everyone might think).

Viva LDS.

[Merdle]

I don't even know what to say. This stuff is crap. Those styles aren't weird or original, they're bites of graffitis early development stages. Its not the 70's anymore and yer not from nyc. Man I'm glad paople don't get away with garbage in my city.

[de la cruz]

Originally posted by octopusone


This sounds like a typical neanderthal American response... you're a world away from these time constrictions, let alone making it through razor fences, motion sensor trips, dogs, cameras, helicopters, crawling through a mile of shit in some tunnel a mile below the city... Just to have maybe 10 mins in the yard for them to probably never even run it. You're probably to busy painting some freight with interlocking arows and all that boring shit that takes all the humour and fun out of graffiti that only ever passes from nowhere to nowhere for a load of redneck farmers to ignore. The London tubes if they do run, run through central stations where fat American tourists suddenly drop there McDonalds, thousands of businessmen waiting on the platfrom get all confused and don't know if they should even get on the metro which is something you'll never experience.. Now this ain't to say these are the styles that I'd drop on a tube but I ain't gonna sit behind my computer bitchin' about 'em... Locationtwelve let's see those abstract ones that were on your site a while back they were ill.:D

Word.

[imported_locationtwelve]

The latest running panels from LDS have been made using emulsion.

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/18-1-2002/large/uma.jpg'>

[imported_b0b]

[img]http://www.southlondon.org.uk/ano.jpg'>

[Rodney Trotter]

Personally, I don't like them, but I doubt they give a flying fuck what I think. I do take my hat off to them for getting out there and smashing the tubes. Its more than I can be bothered to do.

[vynlone]

you tell em rooney...
(not my bad spelling by the way)
...

[PornoStars]

I find it disheartening reading through this board when it comes to European graff, or really just any Non US graff. Most people within Europe have untold respect for the American scene (especially New York) as yes as we all know, they started this whole thing. However after 30ish years of painting plenty of Yanks still seem to think we “owe” you respect or that your way of doing things is “better” than Europe.
What seems odd is that many of the original writers (From my admittedly limited knowledge of early NYC graff) seem to have embraced European graff in a major way! (Look at some of Seens recent stuff). In many ways European Graff has over taken much of its American Counterparts, whilst you were having your wars in the early to mid 80’s the Germans and French were taking graff to whole new levels. People like Delta, Daim and Loomit were producing styles that really hadn’t been tried before, that was over 10 years ago, now I look in a States mag and its full of pale 3D imitations and loomit inspired styles!
In the end we have respect for the States where’s there are many of you who seem to insult other countries out of hand (Amusing as there are probably a fair proportion of you that have been painting FAR less time than many of the UK writers on this forum!
As to the states of Yards in the UK, like others have said here the yards are considered by many as harder than NYC metros, but ours still get smacked on the regular (by people like Mace, Noir, LDS, Moas, Nifty etc) where as I see very few flicks of Metros (although for all I know it could be done, and I just don’t get to see the flicks! Who knows!)?
Any way as a new bod im not trying to start beef, I just find it quite amusing that we are often seen as the “poor relations” of the states! Just cause our Prime Minister licks Bush’s arse, doesn’t mean writers feel the same way!

PS I don’t like LDS style as well, but they are doing it, and it is something different, which deserves props for having the balls to go out and prepared to get them selves ridiculed!

------- Is this where I put a witty quote?-----------

[vynlone]

welcome mr.pornostars...nice to have you with us.Any idea when UKHH forum will be back online?
....

[grandmaster]

I like LDS i ithink they deserve some respect....When I used to see there flics I thought that they did styles like that for speed?// I dunno bump anyway its differant

[TheBigSlut]

I have to interject mr porno stars but I belive the first person doing 3d pieces was erni. He was the inspiration for those overseas, and if I'm wrong correct me but erni is an american artist originating from nyc.

[bigguy]

bah

[vynlone]

I read that in an interview somewhere as well. But to honest I don't think Erni took 3D any where near the level that people like Loomit or Insa have taken 3D to in recent years. T-Kids 3D stuff is wicked..nice to see fresh ideas from one the original old school soldiers.

[PornoStars]

Originally posted by TheBigSlut
I belive the first person doing 3d pieces was erni. He was the inspiration for those overseas, and if I'm wrong correct me but erni is an american artist originating from nyc.

Haha safe mr Slut, I bow down to your knowledge on this issue! However I still think the point is valid, even if the example was wrong!
Erni's train in Subway art is still something I bite today!

[imported_locationtwelve]

About time for some more photos ... here are some of the older ones ...


[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/trains/lds/large/lds6.jpg'>
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[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/trains/lds/large/lds4.jpg'>

[imported_b0b]

Originally posted by TheBigSlut
I have to interject mr porno stars but I belive the first person doing 3d pieces was erni. He was the inspiration for those overseas, and if I'm wrong correct me but erni is an american artist originating from nyc.

Don't try to dismiss the main points of the argument by picking at the details and being pedantic.

[imported_b0b]

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/20-2-2002/large/uma.jpg'>

[imported_b0b]

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/22-1-2002/large/alo.jpg'>

[imported_b0b]

Here is some artwork they stuck to the side of a tube..

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/18-1-2002/large/dodo.jpg'>

[imported_b0b]

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/23-11-2001/large/8.jpg'>

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[bubble cloud]

this crew is good they remind me of sdk crew in france.those cats are masters of graphic simple styles.moas and alot of the italians and spanish writers as well.i think its important to not take it too seriously otherwise you might be stuck looking at replicas of frazetta paintings painted next to overly painted overconstructed non functunal letter forms.

[imported_b0b]

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/16-8-2001/large/hr.jpg'>

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/16-8-2001/large/ano2.jpg'>

[imported_b0b]

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/10-7-2001/large/dodo-ola.jpg'>

[cocaine mustache]

i have a question..

the one that you mentioned was painted with emulsion, what exactly is emulsion? why would you want to paint with it?

i dont quite understand.
please help.

[PornoStars]

Originally posted by oh, hello

the one that you mentioned was painted with emulsion, what exactly is emulsion? why would you want to paint with it?


Its paint that you would use a brush or roller for, stuff you paint the inside of your house with!

[catwash]

Originally posted by crazeeb0b [img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/16-8-2001/large/hr.jpg'>

^^
that's just shit, different and whether they care or not it's absolute shit.

[vynlone]

NOK ONE used to put up LDS. But I think he gets dissed by them now or maybe the other way round.

Nok's stuff if fucking tough.

[SatAn's SluT]

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/23-11-2001/large/8.jpg'>

now pieces like this i think are quite cool... but i hate the rest of it... props to them for getting up so much in such hard conditions but why do a piece like this...?
[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/16-8-2001/large/hr.jpg'>
when i write i like to be able to look back at my piece and think 'wow that looks good'... i dunno its just not my cup of tea...

peace-

[imported_b0b]

http://www.southlondon.org.uk/lds1.jpg

http://www.southlondon.org.uk/lds2.jpg

[imported_locationtwelve]

Nice wholecars CrazeeBob. Wasn't there another tube wholecar in the same yard?

[imported_b0b]

^^^ l 12, I think there was the French guys, but I don't think a photo of that came my way. Did it end up with you?

[imported_locationtwelve]

This is the one I was thinking of. I never got the French action either :(

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/n-igma5/trains/large/vo.jpg'>

[imported_Europe]

Keep up the posting all you english hooligans...

[imported_Jewish Task Force]

Danish fooligan.

[OZEK]

Originally posted by locationtwelve
This is the one I was thinking of. I never got the French action either :(

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/n-igma5/trains/large/vo.jpg'>

Someone tell me the one on the left doesn't say vamp!!???

[imported_locationtwelve]

It does .... but it's nothing to do with Vamp from SE London. It's part of some French saying I think ... possibly tied in with the Partisan Du Mondres Efforts .. or whatever (PME) ... god knows.

[imported_b0b]

Originally posted by Jewish Task Force
I can name Americans that are painting trains and have panels running right now on a subway in Europe. If proof is needed I can send you flicks.

Not that I doubt you, but I'd love to see the flix. Please?

[imported_Jewish Task Force]

Originally posted by crazeeb0b


Not that I doubt you, but I'd love to see the flix. Please?

email?

[imported_locationtwelve]

JTF ... send them over to me (dan@graffiti.org) if thats cool?

[imported_Europe]

Some americans do get over in Europe, but alot of them just have good time drinking, smoking and chilling...

[imported_b0b]

Originally posted by Jewish Task Force


email?

crazeeb0b@hotmail.com

Many thanks

[Subwaynet]

Originally posted by Jewish Task Force
I can name Americans that are painting trains and have panels running right now on a subway in Europe. If proof is needed I can send you flicks.

Me too if needed, but i just would underline the fact those American have been probably bringed to paint from locals...or i'm wrong? I' ve personally seen and photographed american guys' panels on Milan subways...and i also know who bringed those guys...

What you want to say is some Ameriacn guys managed alone to do Subway hits in Europe? I don't know how is your situations... but i know well how is going in Europe systems...and i honestly doubt about this.
Not as a proof, but i'd like to see those panels you got... subwaynet@graffiti.net

Subwaynet

[OZEK]

Originally posted by Europe
Some americans do get over in Europe, but alot of them just have good time drinking, smoking and chilling...

I've heard rumors of troublemakers from the land of ice with nothing but bad intentions heading in the direction of the red steel this summer...

[imported_Jewish Task Force]

Originally posted by Europe
Some americans do get over in Europe, but alot of them just have good time drinking, smoking and chilling...


Its just a matter of staying away from Christiania.

[imported_Jewish Task Force]

Originally posted by Subwaynet


Me too if needed, but i just would underline the fact those American have been probably bringed to paint from locals...or i'm wrong? I' ve personally seen and photographed american guys' panels on Milan subways...and i also know who bringed those guys...

What you want to say is some Ameriacn guys managed alone to do Subway hits in Europe? I don't know how is your situations... but i know well how is going in Europe systems...and i honestly doubt about this.
Not as a proof, but i'd like to see those panels you got... subwaynet@graffiti.net

Subwaynet

I have to say that you put me in my place. You are right, the majority of Americans that paint trains in Europe were brought by locals.

But if the American were to stay for a longer amount of time it would end up that he is going out painting with his freinds. There is nothing wrong with that.

[vynlone]

gwarn ozek!!! I hope to see the flics one day. Say yo to Sofa if you speak to him.

[Subwaynet]

Originally posted by Jewish Task Force
But if the American were to stay for a longer amount of time it would end up that he is going out painting with his freinds. There is nothing wrong with that.

Of course, i didn't say it's wrong...as you're stranger is normal someone guide you, as i think it wouldn't be easy to do it without the right knowledge about spots and all those moafuccka guards...

I just wrote cause it seemed me you would say that those americans you talk about can manage theirself a subway hit in Europe...in opposition with chilling and trowupping the city (that is good the same...)
...can i have those flix you talk about?

SN

[imported_Europe]

Originally posted by OZEK
I've heard rumors of troublemakers from the land of ice with nothing but bad intentions heading in the direction of the red steel this summer...

The Icelandic vikings are chill guys, not troublemakers, but I hope some will get over properly this summer.

[OZEK]

Originally posted by Europe


The Icelandic vikings are chill guys, not troublemakers, but I hope some will get over properly this summer.

Oh they will:D
I think we can expect a handsome bunch this year...and hopefully some painting will get done, that is if we escape Christiania:scramble:

[CRone]

I like it. Original is a non original sort of way...

:) thumbs up to those LDS kids and all those courageous ass euorpean writers.

[imported_locationtwelve]

Originally posted by OZEK
I think we can expect a handsome bunch this year
So your not going then :beat:

[FLESHEATER]

the hippo looks like CLIFF

[OZEK]

Originally posted by locationtwelve

So your not going then :beat:

Oh I was refferring to the bunch of beautiful Icelandic women that follow the writers around wherever they go, I think they're called groupies...nice:D

[imported_locationtwelve]

Originally posted by OZEK
Oh I was refferring to the bunch of beautiful Icelandic women that follow the writers around wherever they go, I think they're called groupies...nice:D
If only we had them here!!!

[OZEK]

Originally posted by locationtwelve

If only we had them here!!!

Here's a few...
[img]http://www.strik.is/bits/ford/rampur.jpg'> [img]http://www.strik.is/bits/ford/hlatur.jpg'>

[imported_locationtwelve]

Originally posted by OZEK
Here's a few...
Crickey!!!

[L.RonHubbard]

Who has ever heard of the ARMORY SHOW (1913) NYC.

This was the first time European art reached the U.S. Cubist, expressionist, impressionist, dada,fauvist all of that came to the us for the first time bringing to light the illy illy styles of Cezanne, Duchamp, De Chirico, Picasso, etc...mad amounts of talent that had exisited in europe for DECADES without any play in the US. What do you think happend??? Stubborn, closed minded american art critics, even the presidnet tore the shit apart and said they wished it never made it over seas. The funny thing is that within a year the art had significantly influenced ALL american artists at the time, and continued to do so into the future. So keep hating and go look at the same Ges and Kem pieces that you see everywhere.

[imported_freeque]

Originally posted by locationtwelve

Crickey!!!

You can say that again! Count me in Ozek :-D

[the_snake]

tight euro action, but are they all runners; or just scrap yard ..???

[vynlone]

I want graff groupies.

[imported_SKUMBALUCKAH]

Originally posted by OZEK


Here's a few...
[img]http://www.strik.is/bits/ford/rampur.jpg'> [img]http://www.strik.is/bits/ford/hlatur.jpg'>


bloody hell!!! your taking us to iceland this summer fo rilla...:love2:

[imported_SKUMBALUCKAH]

Originally posted by the_snake
tight euro action, but are they all runners; or just scrap yard ..???

They are all real live trains, nothing to worry yourself about there.

[jeff123456]

ahh my eyes... my eyes dont like to look at ugly things like that

[ceas902]

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[T.T Boy]

theres even a few canucks whove gotten over there.

[jarjarbinks]

man i couldnt come that wak if i tried. And im a fucking toy. those are total waste of paint time and trains.

[imported_sofarok]

Originally posted by jarjarbinks
man i couldnt come that wak if i tried. And im a fucking toy. those are total waste of paint time and trains.


i think that’s the point....its about deconstruction, when is graff not graff...personally im not down with the idea that graff is art, not the hardcore side anyways...i doubt most kids who go out bombing are thinking about anything more than getting up…there not trying to place there work in a historical or theoretical context they are just trying rebel, trying to get noticed, and more power to the out of that comes some serious creativity and beauty…..graff is definitely a creative process and it is artistic but is it art? Perhaps its more akin to the applied arts, graphic design et all….i think lds specifically are akin to most of the modern art created during the early part of the 2oth..they are self aware…instead of producing crisp wildstyles (of which if the rumors are true they are more than capable of) they put as much as much effort into breaking town the key constituencies of graffiti and re applying them…..or maybe im chatting shit..:confused:

[imported_Jewish Task Force]

Originally posted by OZEK


Here's a few...
[img]http://www.strik.is/bits/ford/rampur.jpg'> [img]http://www.strik.is/bits/ford/hlatur.jpg'>


Are they coming to Denmark?

[OZEK]

Originally posted by Jewish Task Force



Are they coming to Denmark?

You never know, I hope they do. If not I'll have to walk:crazy:

[professor poopatronic]

o love seeing you guys get all worked up like "what the fuck, this shit is so wack, AAARRRGGHHHH no white inline?! how dare you!"
you guys suck. these guys burn you. doesn't that make you feel stupid?

[tassie toy]

what a waste of a good train. It's like they purposly are trying to be toys. That old is the most disgusting thing i've seen in ages. Still you gotta give them props for being origanal even if it doea suck.

[Hated Pigeon]

Duh Hello! They are doing it on purpose!

[the_snake]

Originally posted by SKUMBALUCKAH


They are all real live trains, nothing to worry yourself about there.

i'm not worried just bored with this crap!!
but i'm sure my 10 year old sister could fade your whole crew with your kidergarden skills prissy boy..
hows your tea??
extra creamy??
hmm enjoy my liquid lunch!!
spooge man!!

[Hated Pigeon]

I didnt see many subways running when I was in Chi town, but then again I probably should have checked the freight yards out for all the action.......

[imported_b0b]

Originally posted by the_snake
but i'm sure my 10 year old sister could fade your whole crew with your kidergarden skills prissy boy..


You just don't get it, so you? They don't care what you think and about you precious ideas of having a tight letter form. They really don't give a damn. They are busy laughing at people like you. Just look at Prof Poopatronic's post a few up^^^. That sums it all up nicely.

[octopusone]

Originally posted by the_snake


i'm not worried just bored with this crap!!
but i'm sure my 10 year old sister could fade your whole crew with your kidergarden skills prissy boy..
hows your tea??
extra creamy??
hmm enjoy my liquid lunch!!
spooge man!!


I sense alot of aggresion in your tone "Snake" (very menacing name by the way).. Why not post some of your Chicago Subways then??? though I bet the nearest you've got to subway action is when you walked within 50 metres of a yard and you wet yourself........ I'd love to see Chicago Subway action but the only flix I've ever seen in recent years were two panels by a couple of French writers... interesting.

[chester copperpot]

Originally posted by octopusone



I sense alot of aggresion in your tone "Snake" (very menacing name by the way).. Why not post some of your Chicago Subways then??? though I bet the nearest you've got to subway action is when you walked within 50 metres of a yard and you wet yourself........ I'd love to see Chicago Subway action but the only flix I've ever seen in recent years were two panels by a couple of French writers... interesting.

people just dont let their flix out.

[porque]

when i first saw this page i didn't know exactly what i was looking at...but once i got it it was great...i feel sorry for all the people completely hating on this because i feel they don't understand an important concept of graff, and that is that everything is a product of it's enviornment and only really relevant to it's place. so many of the kids in america can't understand why anyone would do pieces like this...well no shit you're not living in london. It's the same reason why euro kids don't understand why we go out and paint freight trains that we may never see again. Every scene is derived from it's location, the people that write there as well as the people that don't, all of these are factors which contribute to make graff what it is...and in every city in the world graff is different which is what makes it so amazing. i also find it quite striking that this work is quite similar to the 'bad painting' movement of the early seventies led by philip guston. Onee question i have is why the writers are still using good paint and nice caps, wouldn't it be even better to use some cheap ass paint and stock caps? but then again maybe i just don't get it.

[dirty bird]

I order them to surender there cans. The style police and even the other toys wont stand for this.

[nG]

BUMP.

i had intended to bump with some LDS flicks i found on a norwegian site - www.deztroy.org (http://www.deztroy.org) - but alas locationtwelve already had them up here.

bump for the Official LDS Smiley then --> :spin:

[grandmaster]

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/23-11-2001/large/4.jpg'>

nice bushwack!

[imported_b0b]

Originally posted by nG

i had intended to bump with some LDS flicks i found on a norwegian site - www.deztroy.org (http://www.deztroy.org) -


I like that site Ng. Where did you fing that one?

[nG]

the links page at www.wankers.dk (http://www.wankers.dk).

[skrib139]

anyone have flicks of the lds emulsion wholecar?

[Guilt Ridden]

I like the way is made out to be just ano and dodo!! What about the others who represented just as much????

ONLY, LAZY, KHAN, NOK???!!

As usual, some heads just gettin it twisted!

[imported_Europe]

^^
Suggestion:

Post their stuff!!!

[skrib139]

Originally posted by Guilt Ridden
I like the way is made out to be just ano and dodo!! What about the others who represented just as much????

ONLY, LAZY, KHAN, NOK???!!

As usual, some heads just gettin it twisted!


probably because they dont really rock the styles that lds is famous for

[imported_b0b]

Originally posted by Guilt Ridden
I like the way is made out to be just ano and dodo!! What about the others who represented just as much????

ONLY, LAZY, KHAN, NOK???!!

As usual, some heads just gettin it twisted!


Seeing as just about all the photos were posted by me and L12 I assume this is aimed at us. If you want to see our "bias" corrected, do what Europe suggests and post some pictures to correct the situation rather post moaning about it.

[imported_locationtwelve]

Originally posted by Guilt Ridden
I like the way is made out to be just ano and dodo!! What about the others who represented just as much????

ONLY, LAZY, KHAN, NOK???!!

As usual, some heads just gettin it twisted! Anyone here can post some LDS flicks!!! Go for some .. there are loads on DJ/L12/N-igma ... I started the thread just to show a few different style pieces not as some definitive LDS historical reference.

To set the ball rolling ...

http://www.graffiti.org/dj/tubes/2/large/t34.jpg

http://www.graffiti.org/dj/n-igma7/tubes/large/khan.jpg

[87centHitMan]

Sorry to be so critcal, but most of these things are terrible. It looks like a 5-year old did this shit. Don't get me wrong it's kinda cool to look at, but there could be so many better things that could eb painted on a subway car. But then again I don't have any clean trains running in europe...or anywhere. So props for the work, but alot of that shit is just too weird. Technically it's graff because it's spray painted on a train...but not stylewise, this shit is beyond lacking. These two above me are much better than anything on here. But hey'KOOL' is kinda dope.

[87centHitMan]

Holy shit...That khan is on the nicest-looking, most sophisticated 'futuristic' Looking train ever...That just looks so fucking sick........................

[colonel]

BIG BUMP FOR LDS!!!!

[skrib139]

Originally posted by 87centHitMan
Holy shit...That khan is on the nicest-looking, most sophisticated 'futuristic' Looking train ever...That just looks so fucking sick........................


i wouldnt really describe a central line as that.

but hey.



bump for the LDStars

[DANKMAN]

most of that shit is weak!!! where is the style

[skrib139]

just found this on some site....



What They Don't Want You to Know


In order to understand graffiti you need to realize that everything is controlled by a crew called LDS made up of graffiti writers with help from aliens.
The conspiracy first started during the great district line wholecar mission of 1890 in the ******* yard. They have been responsible for many events throughout history, including the great cental line shut down of 2003.

Today, members of the conspiracy are everywhere. They can be identified by their wack panels.

They want to beat down the british trasport police graffiti squad and imprison resisters in uranus using powerful alien weaponry constructed from cheese and onion crisp packets.

In order to prepare for this, we all must cover ourselves in tinfoil to protect ourselves from harmful alien radiation when we go to yards. Since the media is controlled by the evil lord skeletor we should get our information from the BTP.

[LUL]

[IMG]www.graffiti.org/dj/n-igma12/tubes/large/ano.jpg[IMG]

[LUL]

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/n-igma12/tubes/large/ano.jpg'>

[LUL]

[img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/n-igma11/trains/large/only3.jpg'> [img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/n-igma11/trains/large/his.jpg'> [img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/n-igma11/trains/large/hotrod.jpg'> [img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/n-igma11/trains/large/only.jpg'> [img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/n-igma11/trains/large/only2.jpg'> [img]http://www.graffiti.org/dj/n-igma11/trains/large/on76.jpg'>
all off n-igma sure theres a load more stuff like only tubes etc. but i cant be arsed to find them LDS :king: 's

[Neskoner]

likin the only stuff.