Sydney streets

[EccE]

Couldnt find a thread for Sydney street artists so here it is.
I have seen some great stuff out there- graff, stencils, postering and stickers,
SO.......show us what you got!!!!
Here is some of my work

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[willy.wonka]

first!!

[$$G-money$$]

I like the first alot, good post...

[el nervo]

LOOKS LIKE SYDNEY IS IN NEED OF BOMBERS

[EccE]

Originally posted by el nervo
LOOKS LIKE SYDNEY IS IN NEED OF BOMBERS


We have plenty of them and Im sure you could find them in other threads. BUT, thats not what I do- so I couldnt post pics of graff that I dont have!

[B_As_In_Bot]

Falling Down - Michael Douglas's finest movie.

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I'd suggest seeing it to anybody..

[EccE]

Heres a few more

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[ctrl+alt+del]

thats michael douglas?? i thought it was from Dark Angel

[IntangibleFame]

since no one called it... SECOND! Booya!

[AMEN1]

PUT DOWN THE PAPER AND PASTE, AND PICK UP SOME PAINT!!!
I DONT OWN A STUDIO AND I'M NOT HIRING A "ARTIST". GET LOST SUCKA!!!!!!:heated: ME=:beat: YOU

[Morphius]

Originally posted by AMEN1
PUT DOWN THE PAPER AND PASTE, AND PICK UP SOME PAINT!!!
I DONT OWN A STUDIO AND I'M NOT HIRING A "ARTIST". GET LOST SUCKA!!!!!!:heated: ME=:beat: YOU

get fucked looser art is about expressing your self and this is how this guy does it, he should paste some stuff on trains with super glue

[AMEN1]

HE SHOULD PUT ONE ON YOUR MOMMAS BACK, LIKE A MEL GIBSON OR J.J. FROM GOOD TIMES.:lol: :lol: :lol:

HEY MORPHIUS!!! TAKE IT EASY SONNY!!! I CALL IT THE WAY I SEE IT!!!

[hyrax]

just cause it aint your thing doesn't mean you have to front morphius.

stencilling and postering are valid forms of streetart....

the !NORMAL 3CC3 is really good Ecce, too bad some twat probly came by a couple hours later and felt like picking at it

[ElectricitySucks]

get some graffiti. stencils are blah

[Zack Morris]

Originally posted by B_As_In_Bot
Falling Down - Michael Douglas's finest movie.

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I'd suggest seeing it to anybody..

I agree if you haven't seen this movie you should be shot.

[FaceOfPain]

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[FaceOfPain]

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[EccE]

Originally posted by hyrax
just cause it aint your thing doesn't mean you have to front morphius.

stencilling and postering are valid forms of streetart....

the !NORMAL 3CC3 is really good Ecce, too bad some twat probly came by a couple hours later and felt like picking at it

I agree. I was doing graff when I was younger, but my work has evolved into this. I think it allows for just as much expression. What I would like to see is no seperation from graff writers, stencilers, sticker artists and postering. After all arent we all just reclaiming public space with our images and letting people know we are out there!

The "falling down" poster was ripped across the middle 2 days later. I think it was done by the promoters of Ron Moss because I had stuck it over his fat head!

[EccE]

nice work face ^^^
Sydney?
I like the first one lots

[sn1]

>>>I agree. I was doing graff when I was younger, but my work has evolved into this<<<

What a load of bullshit, your work has degressed to sticking up existing pictures with wheatpaste, and then making up some psuedo profound reasoning behind "why" you put it up. One dirty fucking tag says a world more than any of your "intelligent" street art nonsense. Street art is gay, art can be cool on its own, but bringing "art" into graffiti waters it down like some Paul Oakenfeild type club remix of a good song.
Do you wear cargo pants, and spike your mo-hawk and rollerblade around Sydney sticking these up, whilst you play progressive trance-two-step-bass, on your mini disk, whilst handing out flyers to your new "night" on oxford street where DJ Molly Meldrum is gonna play?


>>What I would like to see is no seperation from graff writers, stencilers, sticker artists and postering. <<<<<

I would like to see a huge seperation, its only in the interest of wanky "IT boy" graphic designers to try and get some "street cred" or have something "underground" to talk about whilst they have brunch, eating Westernised versions of "cultured" food, sipping designer water that's from the tap, at Arcadia's off little lonsdale st. Daaaarling!
If you think a writer and a art-ponce have anything in common, then obviously you have never busted into yards, done wholecars, watched your panels run through the heart of the city...etc etc. Wheras in 99% of the cases you see posters and that bullshit, its either selling a product in some "subtle" form, or its by a writer who's gonna try to use graffiti to make some money as a "graphic designer", or get a write up in some street/fashion hybrid magazine.

[EccE]

^^^^^^^^^^^^
What the hell would you know with your "Im such a hard core writer" attitude. You basically know nothing about me and then assume a whole bunch of shit based on a few sell out graphic designers that youve heard of. I have no reason to lie and say I have done stuff when I havent- that seems pointless in such an intense forum. unlike yourself who has nothing better to do than be jealous of ideas that you could never think of. So to you I say-
SHOW US YOUR STUFF!

[EccE]

Originally posted by Rsmry'sBaby
[B. Street art is gay, art can be cool on its own, but bringing "art" into graffiti waters it down like some Paul Oakenfeild type club remix of a good song.
[/B]

Incase you didnt notice - graff is street art. street art is art and graff is art. Its all one thing!
Dont fool yourself into believing that you are anything special!

[FaceOfPain]

What do you write lad? you obviously from sydney cause you know your way around pretty well...This is why the sydney graffiti scene is falling into small pieces in the gutter...All i ever hear is Panels this panels that panels panels panels...Hey guess what sydney? Graffiti isnt chained down to just panels...I hear writers in sydney claiming "your not a real writer untill youve done panels"
All i can say to you is mate look outside the square you live in...Defining all people who poster as "art ponces" is pretty narrow minded and un-thought out...And you have just proven to 12oz you write graffiti for the totally wrong reasons. And not for art...Its sad that its come to this...Props to eccee for doing something different and not following the flock of other "cool" writers in sydney.
Thats my two sense

[catwash]

Originally posted by Rsmry'sBaby
What a load of bullshit, your work has degressed to sticking up existing pictures with wheatpaste, and then making up some psuedo profound reasoning behind "why" you put it up. One dirty fucking tag says a world more than any of your "intelligent" street art nonsense. Street art is gay, art can be cool on its own, but bringing "art" into graffiti waters it down like some Paul Oakenfeild type club remix of a good song.

I'm with Rosemary on this one.

Fair enough stencils/posters may be ok in their own right but it's not graffiti in the slightest. If you want to wheatpaste it's down to you, but it's not graffiti and shouldn't be labled like that. Same with the Bansky deal, yeah sure he does his thing and is 'down' with the media crowd thinking he's some kind of vandal but the bottom line is that it's not graffiti.



Do you wear cargo pants, and spike your mo-hawk and rollerblade around Sydney sticking these up, whilst you play progressive trance-two-step-bass, on your mini disk, whilst handing out flyers to your new "night" on oxford street where DJ Molly Meldrum is gonna play?

laughing my ass off... I'm sure I saw him this morning

[catwash]

Originally posted by FaceOfPain
.And you have just proven to 12oz you write graffiti for the totally wrong reasons. And not for art...

So the totally wrong reason to do graffiti is to get up and paint trains? I thought that was the whole point?!

[Obsolete]

props man , ist how you do it , fuck what the haters say , keep doing it man . i dont do it personally , but i love seein shit like that around . nice one

[SE4_2002]

Originally posted by catwash


So the totally wrong reason to do graffiti is to get up and paint trains? I thought that was the whole point?!


Exactly what I was thinkng mate..

[EccE]

Originally posted by catwash


So the totally wrong reason to do graffiti is to get up and paint trains? I thought that was the whole point?!


How isnt street art just another way of getting up? If getting up is what you are concerned with then trains arent very effective. most get buffed in Syd before even leaving the yards and those that do make it out- nobody but writers takes notice anyway.
Making people jolt out of there mundane lives is what im about and taking it to the street is more effective than a panel anyday!
Its not totally the wrong reason but there is definately more to it

[FaceOfPain]

Dont get my wrong dickhead graffiti is about bombing and i would rather see ten filled throwies or a street piece than a legal...but its about art...If its not then why dont you go out and just throw buckets of paint on trains? and draw lines and just fuck trains up? Regardless of "im a hardcore bomber - fuck art" your still artistic.

[FaceOfPain]

We are all smashing the system
doesnt matter which way
just keep smashing
chill out sydney fuckk

[catwash]

but it's not about art, that's my point. It's about getting your name up. If it looks good too then cool, but it's about getting up.

<..but its about art...If its not then why dont you go out and just throw buckets of paint on trains? and draw lines and just fuck trains up?>

been there too and I line trains as I leave yards.

[EccE]

>>>but it's not about art, that's my point. It's about getting your name up. If it looks good too then cool, but it's about getting up.<<<

Yeah, just some of us are a little more creative than just scribbling shit that peeps cant even read

>>>been there too and I line trains as I leave yards<<<

So how is that getting up?

[FaceOfPain]

Yeah, just some of us are a little more creative than just scribbling shit that peeps cant even read

Dude dont say that hey i fucking hate it when people whine and say "but no body can read it"

[EccE]

Im not saying that.
I can read it and im sure all other writers can, but if they are trying to get normal everyday people to read it then usually they dont have a chance
Part of graff is the encryption of tagging and piecing and its intention is to remain unknown so as not to get caught but at the same time so other writters can recognise it

[sn1]

I wouldn't normally bother responding, but as this is something that really shits me in graffiti I will.
Graffiti is not art. Technically I would be more qualified to talk about art than most, but that's another story. Coming from that place I will state the fact that graffiti is not art, but it can be artistic at times. Which doesn't mean its good. Theres good art and shit art, just like good food and bad food etc etc.
I do art stuff, and am an active train writer, never the twain shall meet.
I don't personally like artistic graffiti.
To me good graffiti is vandalsim with style. I don't need to make myself sound profound or justify anything to myself by saying my graffiti is art, like I'm some poor unacknowledge romantic poetic art ponce from the streets that no one understands, and all I'm doing is making people question their stance on property and ownership, and thus in the greater scheme of things...."LOVE". I'm a culture jammer, questioning advertising with 3 by 3 cm stickers!
Don't you feel like a cliche'??
And ecce, what you said about not having the ideas to do the obviously next level profound wheat posters that you do is a joke, you call that living???? You call that confronting, your ideas are old and tired. People that say panels aren't shit, either haven't done them, or are too scared.


Ecce, out of curiousity what writers do you like?

[fatlaces]

Originally posted by EccE



How isnt street art just another way of getting up? If getting up is what you are concerned with then trains arent very effective. most get buffed in Syd before even leaving the yards and those that do make it out- nobody but writers takes notice anyway.
Making people jolt out of there mundane lives is what im about and taking it to the street is more effective than a panel anyday!
Its not totally the wrong reason but there is definately more to it

Im sorry ecce but i would rather see one quickie 20 minute panel than 10000 of your posters and stencils.

yes i like stencils and posters and all that but it just doesnt compare to seeing a panel running.

[zen]

ok well. Rsmry'sBaby great. you make so much of a distinction. most people like to read a whole lot more into their graffiti. they like to have more to it than a aesthetic reason. you dont like it? tough your a dime a dozen. you have no idea how many panel purists there are out there, and your just another face in the idiot panel crowd.

the fact that you likley know about art and you still hate on legals, posters and alternative mediums is stupid. i mean i agree with you to an extent. I'm a culture jammer, questioning advertising with 3 by 3 cm stickers! this is why i quit doing most of that kind of stuff. but youve gotta think more about what your saying

i guess my point is that you cant draw your line in the sand so close. sure you are alowed to paint trains and only trains but just because you do that dosent mean you arent alowed to appretiate styles and work that differ from yours. if its illegal try to approach it with an open mind rather than dismiss it purley because of what it stands for.

i like the first peice ecce. dope stuff.

[beardo]

what a pointless argument

[FLEXXX]

Sydney hasn't changed a bit

[EccE]

[QUOTE]Originally posted by Rsmry'sBaby
[B]
>>>>graffiti is not art, but it can be artistic at times. Which doesn't mean its good. Theres good art and shit art, just like good food and bad food etc etc.<<<<

Agreed, however what is shit is still just an opinion. All forms of expression are valid

>>>I do art stuff, and am an active train writer, never the twain shall meet.
>>>Don't you feel like a cliche'??<<<<

No. I never claimed to be a jammer. I like the idea about turning commercialism back on itself and stealing some of the techniques, but thats about it. I too do art stuff and street stuff and the line is always blurred between the two. But this is just my style and you dont have to like it. I am not trying to make a profound comment on society, I am just trying to get up like most other people, but in my own way that is going to get noticed as much as possible.

>>>And ecce, what you said about not having the ideas to do the obviously next level profound wheat posters that you do is a joke, you call that living???? You call that confronting, your ideas are old and tired.<<<

Firstly, you are misquoting what I said. I did say that there were more creative ways of getting up than the same old scribbles that ARE a dime a dozen. Yet tagging has its purpose like I said before.

>>>People that say panels aren't shit, either haven't done them, or are too scared.<<<<

I did not say this- I was just stating that they are not as effective as taking it to the street

>>>Ecce, out of curiousity what writers do you like?<<<

Mostly old skool like unique, atome, gane2, dmote, kerupt
Some new stuff I like- days, snarl

[EccE]

Here are some other examples of my shit-

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[photofreaks]

This is a interesting topic you have here........
Im from Melbourne and your all bitching over bullshit,,
Graffiti is a Medium applied to a surface illegally,,
Poster art was the very start of graffiti.......................................... .......

Keith Haring : The 1st Graffiti artist

As Hip Hop music emerged so did a new outlet for artistic visibility. Keith Haring began using posters to place his uniquely drawn figures and characters in public places. Soon he began to draw directly on subway walls and transit posters. The uniqueness of his drawings eventually led to their being shown in galleries and published in books and his art became "legitimate".

Taki 183: Initiator of Tagging

At about the same time as Keith Haring, a delivery messenger began writing "Taki 183" whenever he delivered documents. Soon his name was all over the city. Newspapers and magazines wrote articles about him and Keith Haring. Both became celebrities. This claim to fame attracted many young people, especially those involved with rapping. They began to imitate "Taki 183".

So i Dont know really why you beef over bullshit anyway ....
I just say do what you gotta do,, in the end its mostly your self that appreciates it the most..........

And i also run a Melbourne Old school Graffiti site Graffiti Photofreaks http://www.go.to/photofreaks So check it out!!!! Its got a fair bit of Melbourne history there.....
I also got some Old school photo's of Unique and some other sydney writers that done work in Melbourne .. but there not on my site so i will try and post them here next time..........
Peace dudes.................-=Graffiti Photofreaks=-

[EccE]

Well said photofreaks. I agree that it is all just bullshit. I only started this thread to check out what other people were up to- instead I got dragged into this debate of semantics. Would love to see those photos posted.

[fah-Q]

a writer is not someone who pastes, they would more apropriately be called a paster, u wanna write, then write, graffiti is graffiti, i mean if u put a name up and u get it up, thats all that matters, but i mean, with all due respecthow much props can u get takin an already made image and putting it up, i mean u could concievably put a wildstyle on some wheat paste its not a street piece, its an over sized sticker, its a played out idea, its used by cats that think theyll get so much props, and they do, do they get more props then a real throwup tag bomber? yea they do in alot of cases, and its not fare, because the shit is not so great, the onyl time it had any kick was when the original NYC duo revs/cost did it first, now its getting too artsy, yuppified, and played out, stop riding revs's ideas