The Photography Thread

[hold the cup]

i have a question about a canon SLR
if anyone knows much about SLR's message me if you have
AIM : whybebobby

[MrChupacabra]

could it be...




...yep, i'm finally a member...

[--zeSto--]

Originally posted by hold the cup
i have a question about a canon SLR

if it's a canon T70 or T90 hit up my email.

[hold the cup]

kilo, you have mail

[-Rage-]

Bump.

Some older stuff.

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL186/1146060/2163920/27247241.jpg

http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL186/1146060/2163920/27247328.jpg
*No, I don't smoke.


http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL186/1146060/2163920/27247330.jpg

[MisPantalonesEstaEnfuega]

Originally posted by -Rage-
Bump.

Some older stuff.

[img]http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL186/1146060/2163920/27247241.jpg'>

[img]http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL186/1146060/2163920/27247328.jpg'>
*No, I don't smoke.


[img]http://pic7.picturetrail.com/VOL186/1146060/2163920/27247330.jpg'>

HOLLERTRONIC

[-Rage-]

Hollerbumper

[jbrshmonster]

page 3 is no place for this thread

[MrChupacabra]

another bump...everytime it gets bumped, no one else responds. I've used up all my recent photos, but i know someone has to have some. Hopefully i'lll have some more soon(tomorrow possibly) so we can rejuvinate this thread.

[Tyler Durden]

digi shots from a little walk the other day.






sorry in advance for this crap.







[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3006519a.jpg'>



[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3006520a.jpg'>



[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3006523a.jpg'>
(shameless ripoff of someone elses shot....i believe it was ese...)


[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3006522a.jpg'>






[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3006524a.jpg'>

[MisPantalonesEstaEnfuega]

Infact, I don't even like these but I figured I should contribute.

So anyone know where I can get some kinda patch to get an Umax scanner to work with XP?

[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3006631a.jpg'>
[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3006635a.jpg'>
[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3006639a.jpg'>
[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3006645a.jpg'>
[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3006651a.jpg'>

If I get the old scanner to work with the new computer I will flood this thread.

[niso]

[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/NYC019.JPG'>
mine

[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3006523a.jpg'>
yours

i feel flatterd

[ctrl+alt+del]

while your the subject nico,
i really dug your shots. the brightness of night without life. very very very fucking awesome.

[Born Loser]

Originally posted by hold the cup
dope, what city?

Van city niggaH

[Sora]

i dig alot of this.. this is what i have till later tonight
[img]http://www.angelfire.com/alt/randomfl/angryseventh.JPG'>

[jbrshmonster]

bump like bar bathrooms...

tyler that first shit is hot...
digging defstars and firepants' flix as well..
getting flix in an hour...
and seeing cremaster tonight...
peaces

[crave]

everytime i enter this thread i'm amazed. i really a lot of your guys work...really awesome.

[Oprah Oner]

i've got a problem, it seems that the apature(sp?) on my lens doesn't work anymore. i have no idea what caused this and i know it's not the lens because ive tried 2 different ones and theirs don't work either, the light meter just stays where it is. it doesnt seem to be the light meter either, since it still works but it's just not affected by the apature. if anyone knows what the deal is then let me know

[MrChupacabra]

Originally posted by jbrshmonster

and seeing cremaster tonight...

Cremaster 3? I saw that movie two nights ago, and not having seen any of the others had no idea what to expect. After seeing the movie and being asked if it was good, i didn't overly know what to say. It was good for the most part, but there were a few parts that it just went for too long, and it was definitely the most confusing three hours of my life in a long long time.


edit for page 14

[Ski Mask]

just thought I'd throw some more shots of real live people on here. Most of my stuff looks post-apocalyptic and devoid of life, but I do shoot people alot. Its just usually friends so it gets kept more on the low.

for class:
[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/model/abehind.jpg'>
[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/model/asquint.jpg'>
for laughs:
[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/model/closeup.jpg'>

[Born Loser]

Now that one good lookin niggah!:king:

[Ski Mask]

I wanted to pair up that last shot with my "miami vice coke dealer" photo of my roomate, but I don't think he'd be feeling it. :D

[Ski Mask]

oh yeah, forgot to add the "context" version of the last one:
[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/model/fatbus.jpg'>

[Poop Man Bob]

Originally posted by ese


[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/model/asquint.jpg'>



Nice shirt!

[Ski Mask]

bump for remembering more funny photos. page 14 is hereby mine, and I declare it the "lets not be so serious about this thread" page.

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/model/asteal.jpg'>

"what slimjims up my sleeve?"

[Born Loser]

[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/p88b7dcf3303ec693dc251e851b56e649/fbe831d7.jpg'>

[Born Loser]

[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/pcbc691600de3f1ed145d4c214be98170/fbe831a3.jpg'>

[Born Loser]

[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid65/p345241b6b82de2e6f78fa35e3d9143e0/fbe8319a.jpg'>

[Born Loser]

Originally posted by ese
bump for remembering more funny photos. page 14 is hereby mine, and I declare it the "lets not be so serious about this thread" page.

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/model/asteal.jpg'>

"what slimjims up my sleeve?"

I'm still gonna kill that bum niggah if I see his ass

[Ski Mask]

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/model/cody.jpg'>
photo from my digi, but taken by "big remeeezy". plenty more good photos from that night, but I dont think certain folks would like them on here. right shoekeys?

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/model/drinkcoron.jpg'>
[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/model/eattrain.jpg'>
[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/model/escalator.jpg'>

[SteveAustin]

I went out this past weekend with a friend and shot a couple of rolls. I still have to finish one up....ran outta light. Also busted out the 4x5 and pinhole. I'm anxious to see how they turned out.

[niso]

^thos larst to flicks are fucking fresh

[hold the cup]

oprah, you can fix your light meter by just changing the battery..
and ese word up

[arc7hyp-1]

Dear polaroid users,
i was just wondering about the lighter/darker switch dealy. does it mean if the scene itself is dark put it on the darker side? or the lighter side to lighten it up?

thank you for any help,
yours truley
analbeadsoner

[ctrl+alt+del]

what do you all know about this camera:


The Camera (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005QDSG//ref=pm_dp_ln_p_1/102-1303884-5845703?v=glance&s=photo&n=499092&me=standard)
Minolta Maxxum 5 35mm. i might be getting this, want to ask you PROS if its quality.

id be getting it with a Minolta 70-210mmF/ 4.5-5.6 II Silver Zoom Lens
The Zoom Lens (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004S5H7/ref=p_deav_acc_1_1/102-1303884-5845703?v=glance&s=photo&n=499092)

[MrChupacabra]

unfortunetly, i can't offer you any advice on the camera, since i don't have any experience with minolta, but i do believe rage has a minolta. I will make a suggestion though, and say you might want to get a lens that also can get a bit closer. 70mm as your shortest range is starting out decently long, and i personally know i like to shoot close up shots a lot, but i guess thats a lot of personal preference. Sorry i can't overly help you.

[ctrl+alt+del]

bump back to page 1. anyone else know anything about minoltas?

[-Rage-]

C+A+D


The Minolta is fine. I don't know what you want to use it for, but just the camera and the lens it comes with (20-80mm) is suffice. You can always try it out first with a couple rolls of color and a couple of black and white. Then get yourself the zoom lens.

It's very small and light, so that's a plus. No fumbling with a heavy ass camera. It also has all the options of an older class Minolta and lots of new fancypants options.



Only suggestion... Don't buy from Amazon. You can get one AND the lens for much cheaper.

[-Rage-]

help....



I forgot who I still have to send photos too and which ones.


ese - have I sent them yet? If not which ones did you want again?
b0b-o - sent you an e-mail... just forgot which ones you wanted.
hyrax - did I send any to you?

[MrChupacabra]

ummm, shit...

rage, once again, apologies for the slowness, i'm putting together a cd with the pictures you wanted as i type this(i'll throw in a few surprisers for being so damn slow), and i'll go get those developed soon. I'm not really sure if theres anyone else who i actually made deals with, i know i talked to a bunch of you, but i don't remember what exactly was decided upon. Email me if you need to. unity311@mn.rr.com

[imported_b0b]

Bump this thread up...


For Mr Chup and Rage: Basically send me anything you want. I did select out some favorites but seem to remember it was time consuming and I'm lazy. You know What I am sending you so let me have wht you think is a fair swap.

If anyone fancies swapping prints for anything, let me know. Maybe some euro mags or some ink I can send?

[SteveAustin]

yo crazeeb0b...sorry I never got back to you man. If you have any specific questions about that stuff...holler.

[Born Loser]

HOLLA!

[niso]

:D :D crevis:D :D :D :D

[--zeSto--]

Originally posted by ese
"lets not be so serious about this thread" page.

[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/IMG_0046.JPG'>

[MrChupacabra]

Originally posted by crazeeb0b

For Mr Chup and Rage: Basically send me anything you want. I did select out some favorites but seem to remember it was time consuming and I'm lazy. You know What I am sending you so let me have wht you think is a fair swap.

alright, i remember mostly what you want, so, that shouldn't be too much of a problem, i'll get back to you as son as i have them.

[jbrshmonster]

[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3019054a.jpg'>
passing cabs in the night...
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/2648210a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3019053a.jpg'>
twin towers
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3019052a.jpg'>
my apologies if any of these have been posted before..
and rage i found one of those fisheyes for 90... flicks later today....

[-Rage-]

Nice jbrsh! Can't wait to see the fisheye's.


my newest roll...

[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/night1.jpg'>

[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/night2.jpg'>

[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/night3.jpg'>

[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/night4.jpg'>

[jbrshmonster]

[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3019385a.jpg'> uno
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3019389a.jpg'> dos

more later

[jbrshmonster]

those shots are dope rage...
i like the drawn door one..
and the rest...
i hate when seemesmile fucks up..
bye now

[SteveAustin]

bad ass....monster
I'm really digging those new ones Rage.

[hyrax]

Originally posted by -Rage-
help....



I forgot who I still have to send photos too and which ones.


ese - have I sent them yet? If not which ones did you want again?
b0b-o - sent you an e-mail... just forgot which ones you wanted.
hyrax - did I send any to you?

nah havent gotten anything yet, i did ask for some tho ;P

[BUCK FUSH]

Originally posted by ctrl+alt+del
what do you all know about this camera:


The Camera (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00005QDSG//ref=pm_dp_ln_p_1/102-1303884-5845703?v=glance&s=photo&n=499092&me=standard)
Minolta Maxxum 5 35mm. i might be getting this, want to ask you PROS if its quality.

id be getting it with a Minolta 70-210mmF/ 4.5-5.6 II Silver Zoom Lens
The Zoom Lens (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/B00004S5H7/ref=p_deav_acc_1_1/102-1303884-5845703?v=glance&s=photo&n=499092)

i have the exact same camera and set up. ive had it for about 4 months and im still not done toyin with all the crazy shit they got on it. the basic shit like manual and autofocus are simple enough.

[jbrshmonster]

[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3019393a.jpg'>

[jbrshmonster]

[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3021828a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3021827a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3021826a.jpg'>
hey now!

[jbrshmonster]

[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3021837a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3021836a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3021835a.jpg'>
some more

[jbrshmonster]

[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3021859a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3021861a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3021864a.jpg'>
that might be all for now...

[Pilau Hands]

WHOOO!

yesterday i shot my first photoshoot for a friend and her production company. it was amazing fun even though the weather was crappy. i think we got 26 rolls in all of mixed black and white. time to get to work i guess.

[MrChupacabra]

nice shots jbrsh, page fifteenerski

[jbrshmonster]

[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3022575a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3022574a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3022572a.jpg'>

thanks chup...
...26 rolls??damn ^^ sounds fun pilau

[jbrshmonster]

bump cuz page 15 onlyhas two posts....

[-Rage-]

Originally posted by jbrshmonster
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3021837a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3021836a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3021835a.jpg'>
some more


All awesome. The cat is my favorite.

[Born Loser]

photos[img]http://www.12ozprophet.com/ubb/icons/icon26.gif'>

[jbrshmonster]

Originally posted by -Rage-

[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/night4.jpg'>

rage.. how'd you do this... is that a cigarette or something?
i've done some shit like that but your lines are so crisp...
what the blood clot?
an ygblood is right...
photos

[-Rage-]

jbrsh... first off, sweet sweet photos you keep posting.

The fisheye's are superb.



Anyways, as for the said photo... here's what I did to get that shot.


- I was in the theater I work at after closing and I was getting shots of the outside marquee (they came out shitty). When I was about to lock up I had turned off all the lights and I thought one of the theater auditoriums itself would be a cool setup.

I was armed with:
- my new x700 Minolta
- a light pen (key factor in creating that photo)
- a tripod
- a cable release

How it worked:
- I set up the tripod and camera facing the exit door, obviously.
- My f-stop was open wide at f16.
- I then set my shutter speed to Bulb and added my cable release.
- When I was ready to go I got my light-pen ready in hand, opened the shutter and held it open with the cable release.
- I hurried to highlight the door outline, making sure the light was aimed toward the camera.
- When I was done I walked back and released the shutter.

No more than 30 seconds exposure most likely.


Notice the ambient light from the door window via the outter lobby. Cool shit.


Hope that helps.
:D

[the JEL kid]

[img]http://www.00fun.com/wimg/redswim.jpg'>

[-Rage-]

thanks asshole

[jbrshmonster]

good shit rage..

[-Rage-]

[img]http://www.tokyocompass.co.jp/g2-lightpen.jpg'>

bump

[imported_b0b]

Nice one for all the recent pictures..

[w3ns]

These arent mine but a guy I know over the internet.

[img]http://panaripoff.hypermart.net/bnyc2con1.jpg'>

[img]http://panaripoff.hypermart.net/bnyc2con3.jpg'>

[img]http://panaripoff.hypermart.net/bnycnik2.jpg'>

[img]http://panaripoff.hypermart.net/bnyccon4.jpg'>

[img]http://panaripoff.hypermart.net/bnyccon3.jpg'>

[img]http://panaripoff.hypermart.net/r406sarsclinic.jpg'>

[img]http://panaripoff.hypermart.net/r301scrumpyhat.jpg'>

[Pilau Hands]

^that first one is my favorite.

b*ump
the randoms

[img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/155286/12oz_m_photo6.jpg'>

[img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/155286/12oz_m_photo7.jpg'>

[img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/155286/elephantinflight.jpg'>

[img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/155286/goldengate3.jpg'>

[img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/155286/lamphats.jpg'>

[img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/155286/upsky.jpg'>


[img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/155286/muirstream2.jpg'>

Ach. the color ones look much better in front of me.

[niso]

[img]http://panaripoff.hypermart.net/bnycnik2.jpg'>
thats my favorite.

[crave]

[img]http://panaripoff.hypermart.net/bnyc2con1.jpg'>
i
really like this one. great work.

[bathoræ]

[img]http://www.dopedesign.com/photo_albums/121_467/sunset_21831.jpg'>

[Ski Mask]

havent had much time to shoot lately. I did however find time to sign up for the intermediate photography class at the school. starts wednesday...

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/komeblur.jpg'>

[Rectum]

[img]http://www.melbournecrime.bizhosting.com/pettingillfam2.jpg'>

[caL]

bizhosting is gay :o

[-Rage-]

Originally posted by ese
havent had much time to shoot lately. I did however find time to sign up for the intermediate photography class at the school. starts wednesday...


I hope you have a good professor. Have fun bro.

I took a digital photo class and the professor was a fucking BITCH. She just talked about her trips to India and she always brought her little piss-ant dog to class.

[jbrshmonster]

b u m p

might have photos later...
i haven't really been on the computer in the last two days and there's all this new shit... yeeha!

ps.. fuck all piss-ant dogs!!

[niso]

Originally posted by bathoræ
[img]http://www.dopedesign.com/photo_albums/121_467/sunset_21831.jpg'>

lookin so fresh

[MrChupacabra]

end of the night bump...and to sleep i go...

[bathoræ]

Originally posted by NISO BRISTOL
lookin so fresh

Thanks.

I've never really dealt with a whole lot of photography, but sometimes you're in the right place at the right time I guess...

That was the view off my front porch at my old apartment and I snapped it to have something to remember.

[crave]

damn man, you've got barb/concertina wire off your front porch?

i still like the flick though.

[niso]

but sometimes you're in the right place at the right time I guess...

that happes alot with my photos :)

[GnomeToys]

[img]http://www.gnometoys.com/explore/images/wthr/ducts2.jpg'>
[img]http://www.gnometoys.com/explore/images/vpa/hole.jpg'>
[img]http://www.gnometoys.com/explore/images/vpa/hall.jpg'>
[img]http://www.gnometoys.com/explore/images/br_rr1west3.jpg'>
[img]http://www.gnometoys.com/explore/images/25auto/manhole2.jpg'>

[bathoræ]

Originally posted by crave
damn man, you've got barb/concertina wire off your front porch?

i still like the flick though.

Haha, yeah. It was razor wire on top of a fence...
There was a ditch on the other side and I guess the manager of the complex put it up to keep out all those hoodlums who painted the concrete in the ditch... ::snicker::

(and completely unrelated but, I'm not a 'man' although it's easy to see why someone would think so given that the majority of the people on this forum are guys....) ;)

[jbrshmonster]

bumpy...
good shit gnome..

[--zeSto--]

that first gnome flick is hot!

sounds like something said in one of the Benches

[flixster]

[img]https://www.deepinsidethemind.com/DITM/storeaprilupdate/bocachia.jpg'> [IMG]

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[img]https://www.deepinsidethemind.com/DITM/storeaprilupdate/bocachicabeach.jpg'>

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[firsttake]

ive been reading a lot of photography books, especially thoes of certin photographers work, cartier-bresson, tress etc. i read an article from cartier-bresson talking about how he dosent even consider photography an artisticly relavent medium and how he just does a lot of sketching now. being one of the more influential "artists" to me, Ive been forced to contimplate this opinion of his. not photography being accepted with painters and sculptures and the rest of the accepted 'art world' but it as a medium to actually convey feeling. i look at a lot of the stuff on this post and some i really like but a portion of it seems to be the same things i see happening in modern photography, just copied ideas on a different setting. well, i'd like to see other peoples opinions on all this shit i just discussed with myself, if anyone finds time to read it...

[MrChupacabra]

Originally posted by firsttake
a portion of it seems to be the same things i see happening in modern photography, just copied ideas on a different setting.
a few of my thoughts on this statement: The reason you see the same stuff on here as in modern photographyis because a lot of the subjects look good. Yes, you can look anywhere and see long exposures of cars, or photos of abandoned buildings, but they're fun and interesting subjects to take pictures of. I can look at any long exposure of cars or any abadoned house shot, and if it is good, no matter mow many times i've seen similiar photos, i still enjoy looking at them, and personally enjoy taking them. I just take photos of things i find interesting, and if other people think the same things are interesting and are taking photos of them, so be it. For me, photography is something that i think is fun, and as long as i'm getting pleasure out of taking my photos, i could care less who else has done similiar types of photos. Just some thoughts...

[flixster]

firsttake, you have to understand several things, it has always been that way. There are only so many topics that you can take pictures of...
Also anyone and everyone owns a digital camera and with the internet anyone can post an image... so you see a lot of amateur photographers, photos.. don't judge them so harsh. most are teenagers or in their early 20's.. Most don't have the eye for photography so the images seem to be very similar..
Take me for instance.. I've been taking pictures for 20 years.. I've always had a good eye, but my vision has taken off in the last few years. I feel my pictures are more creative.....I started taking panoramic shots (that way the person lookig at my shots can get a better feel of what I saw), and I've also been traveling a bit more... so a person like me can get a variety of shots..
Mind you I've never looked at the credits when I looked at photography books... Forget about what so and so says about photography... You do you and shoot what catches your eye... It's your vision.. there is no right or wrong....

www.deepinsidethemind.com (http://www.deepinsidethemind.com)

[jbrshmonster]

flixster is right

[firsttake]

i defitnally agree with the fact that many of these pictures look good and that they are intresting. i believe that a picture is to convey certin emotions and occurence in a fixed period of time, even if it is a prolonged exposure..heh... anyways, i'm not questioning the validity of any of the work, i'm just saying that a lot of the things ive been seeing seem repetitive and that the same goes for the majority of photography for the last few years. i'm sure if i looked harder i'd find tons of experimental and new ideas, but it seems i'm just subjected to look at majorly what someone says is good now. just thoughts, i'm by no means trying to single out or insult anyone. through the posts ive looked at i really like a good amount of the work. keep posting.

[flixster]

hey firsttake can you give us an example of what you say is the same type of photographs.. just so that we have an idea of what you're taking about...
and do you have something expirimental or an idea of something that you want to see

[hold the cup]

dig the impression gnome.

[flixster]

[img]http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00344287f00000003.jpg'>

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[flixster]

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[MrChupacabra]

600 posts and still going strong...i have like 6 or 8 shots left on a roll, so, hopefully i'll have some new stuff reletively soon.


looks like you beat me to that post.

[flixster]

[img]http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00344287f00000003.jpg'>

[SteveAustin]

Originally posted by firsttake
i read an article from cartier-bresson talking about how he dosent even consider photography an artisticly relavent medium and how he just does a lot of sketching now.

the sounds like the very beginnings of photography as an artistic medium all over again. Alfred Stieglitz helped pioneer photography into an accepted "art form".

info on stieglitz (http://www.geocities.com/Broadway/4357/stieglitz.html)

[Tyler Durden]

in relation to the cartier-besson stuff, atget took what was mostly a utilitarian approach to his work. he had thousands of shots all carefully kept which he sold to artists as referance points for sketching/paintings. i remember seeing some examples a while back of where his photos can be found in some fairly famous paintings. one can look at his work and find artistic elements of composition and such. personally i tend to lean more towards the design of the photo/image rather than any emotional response which i feel should be secondary and on a solid base. i dont know. enough ranting.

[niso]

[img]http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00344287f00000006.jpg'>

[img]http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00344287f00000003.jpg'>

is it just me or dos eny one els fell this pics are horrible, the sort of tacky shit you find on holiday in some dogy beach resort aimed at germans :mad:

sorry flixster but ugh

[SteveAustin]

yeah, sorry flixster...I'm not a fan.

one thing I've noticed about that "technique"...it seems like its done with mainly chessy, cutesy subjects.

[flixster]

I hope she's a lil cutesy cause she's my daughter... and as far as it looking like a holiday ad... that's a compliment..... cause that is exactly what it's supposed to be an add type look...
Thanx...

[sludgenuts]

[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3050837a.jpg'>


[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3050838a.jpg'>


uhh enjoy?

[hold the cup]

[img]http://www.angelfire.com/clone2/qol/contact_peice.jpg'> [img]http://www.angelfire.com/clone2/qol/April_21__2003__4_.jpg'>
[img]http://www.angelfire.com/clone2/qol/wall.JPG'>
bump and such

[niso]

now thos i like

[crave]

rollin the wall. i really like that one.

[jbrshmonster]

bump

[-Rage-]

Bump for me trying new mediums.

I bought a Polaroid camera. Lucky for me the nearest pharmacy had a sale on 600 Polaroid Film.



[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/polaroids.jpg'>

[$360]

yo rage, those polaroids are fresh. i heard that you can get 50 packs of polaroids at those wholsale culbs.


ill post my polaroids if i ever figure out how to use a scanner.

[taco bell bomber]

i got a question..
how can i get close up polaroid shots?
i bought a polaroid camera from good will for 5 bucks

want to take close ups please help me.

also cheack my seaside heights thread for pics.
peace

[taco bell bomber]

Originally posted by Pilau Hands
^that first one is my favorite.



[img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-6/155286/lamphats.jpg'>



i think u showed this shot to me on aim a long time ago, or 1 like it with a couch.
still dope

[SteveAustin]

Found some old shots from the first photo thread. Thought they were lost.

If I can get the photo host to work...I'll post some of em up.

[-Rage-]

Originally posted by taco bell bomber
i got a question..
how can i get close up polaroid shots?
i bought a polaroid camera from good will for 5 bucks


There is actually a Close-Up Kit that Polaroid makes for certain cameras.

try here (http://www.ecamerafilms.com/polcloslenwl.html)

[beardo]

i slept on this thread like woa

there are some seriously talented mofos up in here

[SteveAustin]

bump

[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3055441a.jpg'>

[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3055443a.jpg'>

[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3055447a.jpg'>

[SteveAustin]

[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3055444a.jpg'>

[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3055446a.jpg'>

[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3055449a.jpg'>

[-Rage-]

Originally posted by SteveAustin


[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3055447a.jpg'>



HOT!

[niso]

bump for this SteveAustin
[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3055444a.jpg'>

[crave]

nice addition steveaustin

[SteveAustin]

thanks guys! I couldn't let those die in the old thread.

I grabbed a camera for this weekend. I should be able to get some nice stuff...there's lots going on.

[--zeSto--]

[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3055449a.jpg'>

ahhhh!! The artifacting is killing me!
Such a nice photo, such terrible compression.

[--zeSto--]

some recent 'around the way's

[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/arch.jpg'>

[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/tracks.jpg'>

[MrChupacabra]

AA and CrazeeBob; your photos are currently being developed but its a bitch since they had to get sent out due to the fact that i'm having them developed from jpgs. I should be sending them out on Wednesday, along with some extra shit for the long wait, and the money for the AA hat from rage. Crazeebob, email me the address i'm sending them to, my email is unity311@mn.rr.com

I'm really feeling those new shots steveaustin

edit to say, hot shit, that first shot from kilo is killing it

[taco bell bomber]

yo rage thanks man.

[-Rage-]

Originally posted by taco bell bomber
yo rage thanks man.

*edit:


Oh yea. No Prob.

[jbrshmonster]

holy fuckin bump..
good shit austin..and kilo...
i will post some shit tomorrow,,,
is that other thread still around? or did you just have those flicks still?
sorry..wasted..

[niso]

nice work Kilo7-
:eek: :yum:

[--zeSto--]

thanks!

I just noticed that the archway image is a little crooked.
I'll have to fix that.... next time!

[Tyler Durden]

blah.......ugh....sorry.




[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3058729a.jpg'>


[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3058730a.jpg'>


[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3058731a.jpg'>


[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3058733a.jpg'>


[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3058734a.jpg'>


[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3058735a.jpg'>


[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3058736a.jpg'>

[Tyler Durden]

[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3058745a.jpg'>

[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3058746a.jpg'>




apologies again.

[--zeSto--]

Originally posted by Tyler Durden
apologies again.

none needed

[ElectricitySucks]

tyler, in that first pic, is that dash?

[Tyler Durden]

no i dont believe so.

[-Rage-]

Originally posted by Tyler Durden
[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3058733a.jpg'>



I like. Are these digital?

[Tyler Durden]

yeah, all digital, just some crap lying around.

[-Rage-]

I still like.

:D

[MrChupacabra]

bumpo because i finished off a roll tonight that will get developed tomorrow.

[Ski Mask]

anyone here ever shoot any ektrachrome vs? did a roll for class and I wound up shooting people, so I'm worried about the saturation. just how shitty will it look? I'll get the roll back monday....

[Sickboy]

I just started photography and I just got my first roll of film developed. Heres the ones I thought were good out of the bunch. Tips would be great if thats cool. The camera I got is the Canon EOS Rebel TI. I really enjoy it. Fun as hell.

[img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL82/1255151/2381982/28844236.jpg'>
[img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL82/1255151/2381982/28844254.jpg'>
[img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL82/1255151/2381982/28844246.jpg'>
[img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL82/1255151/2381982/28844214.jpg'>
[img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL82/1255151/2381982/28844219.jpg'>
[img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL82/1255151/2381982/28844193.jpg'>
[img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL82/1255151/2381982/28844203.jpg'>
[img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL82/1255151/2381982/28844259.jpg'>
[img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL82/1255151/2381982/28844209.jpg'>
[img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL82/1255151/2381982/28844201.jpg'>

[Tyler Durden]

#2 is far too good for you to have shot on your first roll of film...






























































(....its my dickheaded way of giving you a compliment.)

[Sickboy]

Thanks dickhead.;)

[MrChupacabra]

Originally posted by MrChupacabra
bumpo because i finished off a roll last night that was supposed to get developed today, but will now get developed tomorrow.

[Æ°]

Originally posted by Sickboy
[B][img]http://pic5.picturetrail.com/VOL82/1255151/2381982/28844209.jpg'>

That windshield looks familiar...


Seriously mang, you have a couple good ones in there. Was the 2nd one taken from a moving car?

[>samer<]

yeah that is sweet...i like the clouds also

[Daze One Million]

im not really down with photography but a lot of this shit looks easy...can someone fill me in on what it takes to be a good photographer, because to me it just looks like pictures of clouds and close ups of shit..:confused:

[>samer<]

well i mean if it wasnt for photography you wouldnt have anything to bite off of daze...so get into it

[Daze One Million]

um....wtf you talking about biting? im going to bight that flick of the building, i dont get it

[-Rage-]

Originally posted by Daze One Million
can someone fill me in on what it takes to be a good photographer


Like all things... TIME.

[crave]

i've got a rebel model too. really nice cameras.

[-Rage-]

Originally posted by TerraRyzeR
AND A REALLY ILL CAMERA


Not true. Amazing pictures can be taken with shitty or cheap cameras.

[Sickboy]

Originally posted by Æ°


Seriously mang, you have a couple good ones in there. Was the 2nd one taken from a moving car?

Maybe, I don't remember. Actually, I think it was moving. Slowely though if it was.

[hyrax]

Originally posted by -Rage-
Not true. Amazing pictures can be taken with shitty or cheap cameras.

if there's anyone who knows about this fact, it's rage.

Shitty cameras can take some of the dopest pictures. Polaroids suck in terms of quality, but the photos they take can be simply amazing. If I had a scanner I'd show some off ;/

[SteveAustin]

Originally posted by jbrshmonster
is that other thread still around? or did you just have those flicks still?


I think its still around. I just happened to find those flicks and reposted them. My original photo host decided they didn't like me.

and yeah...you don't have to have a good camera to take good pics. composition, contrast and creativity is what does it for me.

[O Mei Shan]

i love photography. i have a canon EOS 5 slr, a canon a60 digi and loads of polaroids. only just got the digi so ill post some pics soon guys, oh and great fuckin thread. feelin all the shots nice work guys( and gals)

[jbrshmonster]

[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3066635a.jpg'>
this is from being drunk the other night...
i have that little gay izone polaroid but it's actually pretty fun.i've been breaking them as they develop to get some effects..i'll post those in a little bit..and some 4th of july shit..
bye now..

..i should have made that bigger..

[-Rage-]

rock on jbrsh.

[jbrshmonster]

thanks rage..(are you still at that same address?. i will be sending some shit out... sorry about being so slow..)
anyhow..
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3066733a.jpg'>

[ElectricitySucks]

the last shot by sickboy looks like milk and cotton coming out of the sky.


i think its just me.

[hyrax]

Originally posted by jbrshmonster
thanks rage..(are you still at that same address?. i will be sending some shit out... sorry about being so slow..)
anyhow..
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3066733a.jpg'>

holllllly fucking nice jbrush

[jbrshmonster]

[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3066734a.jpg'>
seemesmile is fucking with me..
i'll be back later

[Poop Man Bob]

I have a question.

Where is a good website to order camera equipment? Specifically, and I know this is lame, but I need a new wrsit strap for my digi. It broke the other day and sent my camera to the floor.

Any help is appreciated.

[hyrax]

take a piece of thick string, tie it end to end so it's in a loop and use that.

[-Rage-]

Originally posted by jbrshmonster
thanks rage..(are you still at that same address?. i will be sending some shit out... sorry about being so slow..)
anyhow..
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3066733a.jpg'>

Yea bro, same addy.


What did you do for this shot. My favorite so far, I must say. Beautiful.

[jbrshmonster]

thanks rage.. i had a cable release on, set on bulb.. and i kind of followed the fireworks.. no looking thru the eyepiece tho...i had my camera around my neck...i love suprises.. and whoever developed my flix gave me like 4panoramas that i didn;t even ask for..the rest of my roll pretty much sucked being that it was the 4th and people were hammered...myself included..
peace

[jbrshmonster]

[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3066763a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3066759a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3066762a.jpg'>

[-Rage-]

Bump for jbrsh.

Great technique.

[MrChupacabra]

some new shots...why is seemesmile always so damn slow...
[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3067615a.jpg'>
[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3067617a.jpg'>
[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3067618a.jpg'>
[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3067619a.jpg'>
[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3067621a.jpg'>
[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3067622a.jpg'>
[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3067623a.jpg'>

most of the roll was sunset shots, so i just took the best of the batch. Enjoy.

[-Rage-]

Bump.

Nice jawn Mr.Chuppie.



*Crazee b0b and I are plotting a unique project for the photographers of 12oz

[SteveAustin]

Originally posted by -Rage-
*Crazee b0b and I are plotting a unique project for the photographers of 12oz


kick ass...can't wait to hear the idea. I got a few shots in this weekend. I'll try and post later.

[Ski Mask]

I'm listening....now make with the info. My roll of ektachrome VS turned out fucking amazing. most vivid saturated colors I've seen. sadly I didnt get scans, so no posting just yet. I want to get prints and scan those, but I know the colors will get butchered. I'll get them on here somehow...just wait.

[Ski Mask]

*bump* to start on a new page

[Ski Mask]

ohhh so fun. I just wanna push the shit outta everything now.
buildings first:

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/cloudbuilding.jpg'>

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/vertcondo.jpg'>

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/roundedshine.jpg'>

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/vertoffice.jpg'>

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/poleshadow.jpg'>

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/70scluster.jpg'>

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/furos.jpg'>

[Ski Mask]

people and places:

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/buswindow.jpg'>

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/skytrainpeople.jpg'>

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/fountainraft.jpg'>

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/rapids.jpg'>

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/sky.jpg'>

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/poles.jpg'>

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/painting.jpg'>

[Ski Mask]

odd one out...
[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/underbridge.jpg'>

thats all.

[MrChupacabra]

so fucking high quality. As always ese's photos kill

[-Rage-]

Originally posted by ese
*bump* to start on a new page

:lol:

Rock on. That first shot made my jaw drop. I love it when clouds look like that.

So you guys want in on the hush hush secret photo extravaganza?

[Poop Man Bob]

Jesus, ese .. those are amazing. Rock and roll.

[jbrshmonster]

ese.thanks for making my night with some ill shots before i go to bed...

whats with all the pushing ...
good shit..

[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3067204a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3067206a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3067191a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3067187a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3067208a.jpg'>

mr. chupacabra's..



[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3067619a.jpg'>
[img]http://www.seemesmile.com/photos4/3067623a.jpg'>
these are really nice...

[jbrshmonster]

don't be holding back rage...

[-Rage-]

OK here goes.

Crazee b0b and I have been e-mailing back and forth and he sent me this idea today:


COPYRIGHT 2003 Crazee b0b

I have an idea for a little photography project invloving basically all those people. What I had in mind is getting a disposble camera and getting as many creative/talented people (writers or not) to take one photo each with the camera and then they pass it on to the next person on the list. Then when finished the results are stuck up on a website and everyone gets to see what each other have done. You like the sound of that?

Brilliant.

Fuck a 12oz Journal Project.

[Ski Mask]

Call me party pooper oner, but......no dice. wont work.

[jbrshmonster]

sounds good...
we should have some sort of theme... maybe?

[MrChupacabra]

jbrsh, thanks...the plant one looks a lot better in person since my scanner really toned down the green. Its supposed to be a lot brighter.


about the disposable idea...it sounds quite interesting. I do hate disposable cameras and all, but it would still be a lot of fun. If we plan to start this, it should start at rage, since i have some shit to send to him very soon, and you have that hat to send me. So start at you, go to me, then crazee bob since i'm sending some photos to him. Also, depending on how many people are in on this, it might work with each person taking two...i'm not sure how many photographers we have on here in all.

[Ski Mask]

So this thing is going to get mailed 12-24 times, including back and forth across the canadian/american border....WITHOUT getting x-rayed, smashed, or lost? This is my concern....

[MrChupacabra]

Originally posted by ese
So this thing is going to get mailed 12-24 times, including back and forth across the canadian/american border....WITHOUT getting x-rayed, smashed, or lost? This is my concern....
hmmm, valid point, especially since i do believe crazee bob lives in the uk...

[MisPantalonesEstaEnfuega]

ESE:::::

I don't understand this "pushing" I'm just assuming by that when you say t-max 100 pushed to 400 you are putting in a roll of 100 speed film and setting the camera at 400?

Please explain I'm intrigued.

[Ski Mask]

Yep. tmax100 goes in, iso set manually to 400. all the photos are metered as if it was 400 and it gets dropped off at the lab without telling them its pushed. and voila. super contrasty photos.

[-Rage-]

I can start it off. But I must end with it too. I'll develop.


If I start we can have a SET box to ship in. I can make it a good one. As long as people are careful to open and can repackage it, there should be no problem.

There should be a way of special shipping that has it x-rayed, but in a safer way.






MisP... where'd you come from? You disappeared for a while.

[MrChupacabra]

well, its worth a try, worst comes to worst we lose a few bucks in shipping costs. We should start a list of everyone whose going to be getting this camera so we can figure out how many photos each person gets.


Rage, i'll be getting your and bob's shots tomorrow...hopefully they turned out being developed off the cd and are of high enough quality and not all pixelated or anything...we'll see.


Crazee bob, i no longer have your email address, so if you wanna drop me an email with the address i'll be sending the pictures for you to that would be great.

[Pilau Hands]

sounds like a fantastic project, one id like to be in on.

itd be so hard to shoot just one photo!!!

[O Mei Shan]

ok this is my first time posting here.....and jees all your photos rock...
heres some stuff i took last night.


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/203680/vent.jpg

i piss here when im workin
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/203680/toilet.jpg


http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/203680/light.jpg


not really in the same league, just some stuff done with me digi.
oh, and they are all taken in the same toilet...hahahaha

[imported_b0b]

ok I've been off 12oz for a while, but now I'm back.

First off: some AMAZING photos have been posted in my absence.

Second off: I have a Kodak disposable flash camera sat here right now and will find a suitable box and post it this week to the first person on the list. If we get a full hand count of who is on the list, we can work out how many photos each. It has 27 photos on it, so if all the regular posters of this thread joined in, it would be roughly 2 photos each (guesstimate). If it gets lost/broken/whatever, oh well better to have tried and failed then not tried at all. Infact I have 4 disposables sat here, so I'll just start it off again. It is more a question of how we go about it. Do we produce one big list with all the names addresses on it that travles with the camera? Or does one (or two) people have a list and when you recieve you email to request the address of the next person? Where possible it would be nice to keep screen names and real names seperate, and I'd prefer the option of emailing for the next address and would be more than happy to organise this.

Thoughts please.

Also hand count of people willing to take a photo and pay a few dollars in postage. I have one person from 12oz who doesn't post here down, me and Rage. Email me or Rage or both of us for further thoughts.

The results will be posted here and stuck up on a lil website somewhere so we can all see what we did.

[SteveAustin]

this is just bad-ass.

[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/contrast/rapids.jpg'>

I'm down with the photo project as well. I'd prefer the emailing address option also. I'm already trying to think of spots worthy of a two shot max.

pilau...I was thinking the same thing.

[imported_b0b]

So far we have:

pilau
b0b
rage
mr chup
steve a
jbrsh

down for the project.

Anyone else? Tyler? Ese? Hyrax? Niso?

[niso]

im up for that :p i havent posted eny flicks for bit cos i lost my camra but found it behind me computer after like a mouth or looking high and low
wil get some nice flicks up soon

[Poop Man Bob]

Originally posted by crazeeb0b
So far we have:

pilau
b0b
rage
mr chup
steve a
jbrsh

down for the project.

Anyone else? Tyler? Ese? Hyrax? Niso?

Add me to the list, please.

[niso]

got a mixed bag of old flicks for ya :
[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/turn.jpg'>
[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/tunnle_vition_2.jpg'>
[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/START_THE_BOMBING.jpg'>
[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/speekers.jpg'>
[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/OX_2.jpg'>
[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/lighting_011.jpg'>
[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/lighting_010.jpg'>
[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/lighting009.jpg'>
sorry there small flicks

[O Mei Shan]

nice pics bristol.......i know a guy who did photography at bristol uni.

[O Mei Shan]

or was it blackpool, i forget, anyway nice pics

[-Rage-]

OK.

My thoughts:

- No disposible. They are poo.
- I have a 35mm plastic "toy" camera that takes interesting shots. See below.
- My 35mm has cheap-o f-stop settings such as: Cloudy, Partly Cloudy, Some Sun, and Sunny. A.K.A. 6, 8, 11, 16. Very cool.
- Should we use color or B&W?
- Should we vote on film stock and speed too? Kodak, Fuji..?

Feedback.








P.S. This camera cost me .99 cents. Who cares if it gets lost or damaged.




[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/itochi1.jpg'>


[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/itochi2.jpg'>


[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/itochi3.jpg'>

[Ski Mask]

count me in. I have doubts but I'll give it a shot. I assume the "listmaster" will be sorting addresses so the trips are as short as possible between people. my email is nothingbutfreights@hotmail.com so whoevers collecting the info get at me...


SteveAustin: thanks. the reason its so badass is that fountain is filled with about 3 or 4 boxes of laundry soap, making it foamy as hell. that was on "canabis day" a little while ago...

[MrChupacabra]

Even better if it isn't disposable, that also gives us the option of shooting more then one roll of film(or a roll of 36), thus more then one(or two) picture(s) for each person.

[--zeSto--]

I want down! I want in!

with a 32 exposure roll we could probably take 2 shots a piece.

someone let me know if I can be down.
and to the 'listmaster' - you should plan the order so it only
has to cross the border once out and once back.

[MrChupacabra]

Originally posted by Kilo7-

and to the 'listmaster' - you should plan the order so it only
has to cross the border once out and once back.
its going to have to go to various places in the us, various places in canada, and a few spots in uk.


list:
pilau
b0b
rage
mr chup
steve a
jbrsh
PMP
Niso
Ese
Kilo

[-Rage-]

12oz PhotoFriends...

The deal.

- We go with my 35mm jawn.
- A roll of 36 exposures.
- Most likely Kodak film.
- Suggestions on speed?
- Must vote on color or B&W...
- I'll buy the roll of film and shipping parts.


I need EVERYONE on the list to e-mail me. I can organize where it goes if everyone just gives me your State/Providence and Country. No addresses needed just yet.

vermontgraffiti@hotmail.com


So far the list is 10 people. That's at LEAST 3 pictures per person.

[O Mei Shan]

if its coming to the uk......count me in!!!! im well up for it if everyones ok with that.

oh and film vote...gotta be black and white...gotta be ilford.

[O Mei Shan]

english_freak99@hotmail.com


yeah this sounds like fun! ive got a mate whod be up for it too.....hes good, likes weird shit like me!

[seeking]

i've become pretty disenchanted with photography lately... i know this is gonna be a thunderstorm in the middle of everyones parade, but whatever...
photography is a joke. everyone and their mother is a photographer. its so fucking easy to shoot a 'good' picture, its pathetic. start with either a very blurry, or very crisp photo, over sturate it, crop it, throw on a border and 'voila' you've got a good photo. its gay as shit. it's a formula that is fool proof. i could walk around the room im in right now, with the camera in my bag, and shoot 20 pictures that would all be 'dope', and i could do it nearly in my sleep. infact, i could hand the camera to an 8 year old with one are, tell him what to shoot and it'd be damn near the same thing. it's all tricks and gimmicks. its geometry. its chopping things into thirds, and playing with a-symetrical balance. its 8/10th's of electric blue, interspersed with billowy white clouds, and a slightly cock eyed strip of richly colored brick, filling out the last 2/10th's and framing the left side. its a joke. and dont even get me started on fish eye lenses....christ, you could shoot a cigarette butt in a mud puddle and make it look high-brow with the simple mouse click combo of 'edit>image>curves'.
now understand, im not slamming anyone in here, i first began thinking all of these things by looking at my own photos. i would shoot a bunch of stuff, scan through them real fast, find the obvious 'winners' do my standard 'edits' and BOOM. admittidly, they would look 'good', but good isnt enough. good is fucking gay. it's so blindingly easy to make 'good' photos, when really all they are is in focus and pushed 3 f-stops. this isnt to say there arent some exceptional photos in here, there are, but as a whole, its becoming so much harder to impress me, and to feel like what im doing is worth my, and the worlds time.
i dont know, maybe im wrong. maybe there are a few of us here that just have the 'eye' for it or something, and my concept of 'easy' is actually just natural ability. i dont know. i just know that i'm lost and frustrated and not content with how i feel about my own stuff. i feel no sense of achievement when i take a good photo, i just think 'oh look, how esy that was'. the only thing stnding between any of us, and mass recognition, is some 64x80 prints and a degree from cooper union. i'd say photography wasn't even art, except i feel the same fucking way about art in general. do something sloppy once, and its bad, do it sloppy 1200 times, and its art.
thats gay.
rafeal was art...not...

blah. sorry, i just had to get that out.

[--zeSto--]

^ the exact same thing can be said about grafitti.

Ant 8 year old can do it, but the trained eye sees the difference
between what's good and what's simply following the formula.
Once your eyes are trained a bit of the magic is lost. You cant
be fooled into thinking an average photo is good when you know
the mistakes. Same thing about graf.

[seeking]

and if someone wants to disagree with me, you give me 10, 5meg photos of anything, and i'll crop and edit them, giving you back 5-7 'dope' printable photos.
and its not just me, any of us could do it....

[-Rage-]

Originally posted by seeking
do something sloppy once, and its bad, do it sloppy 1200 times, and its art

I was gonna say.


Well that was a downer.

[--zeSto--]

I'm not going to disagree.

It just seems that as you understand more about photography, writing
or any other 'art' you have to be a little more discerning in your tastes.
For example... News did a piece in my city years ago with crap paint
and stock caps. The untrained eye would say 'that's sloppy looking'
but the trained eye would say 'wow! what style!'. Strip away the photoshop
and just try to see though to the raw content. That's where you'll find the difference
between average and good.

I've been a firm believer that a good photo should be in a collection of
similar photos to be great. If you can shorot 30 things in the same style
and end up with similar results that fit as a cohesive unit, then you are
a good photographer. The rest might just be luck. Some photos are waiting
to be taken. Some are crafted by the photographer.

[O Mei Shan]

Originally posted by hyrax



[img]http://www.nothingbutfreights.com/12oz/orb/orbcrop.jpg'>


ALL OF THESE ARE SHOT BY ESE [/b]

just had a search through......bump
this is one of my fav flicks on this site.

[seeking]

see, i would say the exact opposit.
if you can come up with 30 photos, that are all good for different reasons, then you're a dope photographer. 30 photos that are similar are just 30 variations of the same thing.
i realize that a more 'trained' eye will be more discerning, and there is definitely an ability to take 'next level' photos, maybe what im so frustrated at, is my inability to get there. but see, even if i was to 'figure it out', it would be just that, a riddle, not art.
i could write a book on how to take 'dope' photos, that would be good enough to get you through most levels of any art school photography corriculum. its all shadows, or angles, or colors...its textbook. maybe im just mad because i was expecting something else, and im unhappy with my glimpse behind oz...hell, mybe im just completely fucking wrong... i just know coming across all of this has left me incredibly unmotivated and frustrated.

[Tyler Durden]

Originally posted by MrChupacabra

list:
pilau
b0b
rage
mr chup
steve a
jbrsh
PMP
Niso
Ese
Kilo


add me.

[-Rage-]

grumpyoldmanoner


Project name:

"The Shutters"
^^ SteveAustin

[Poop Man Bob]

[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/kleeklookleekloo.jpg'>

[--zeSto--]

damn seeking... you looked behind the curtain? We told you not to go there.

I think you're just hitting the frustrated phase know as a 'plateau'.
Maybe you and fun subject matter instead of dealing with the
'thirds' and shot composition. I will once again take it back to the graffiti
comparison just because this is one of the few places where that works.
Look at joker. Look at the stuff he used to do. Look at what he does now.
He clearly got the outline>fill>outline>highlight concept down, and now
he's pushed way beyond that. Maybe you need to step back and forget
about all the textbook photograph techniques and let yourself make
some interesting mistakes and try to develop those directions.

and why'd you look behind the curtain?

[O Mei Shan]

I know im not one to give advise....but i think do what makes you happy.
If you enjoy taking pictures of say a toilet ( in my case) then do it. Dont take things so seriously, just enjoy yourself.

If all else fails, take pics of naked ladies performing lewd acts, might bring you back to loving photography!

[O Mei Shan]

and bumpo to poop man.

[SteveAustin]

I've gone through the exact same thing Seeking. I'm gonna have to agree with Kilo and say its a plateau. There is a formula for everything and you're right in saying that its easy (when you have the talent or eye). I think art minded people in general have that eye. Talk to some of your friends that don't have a spec of it in their blood and perhaps you'll hear something refreshing. I agree that you could "teach" these people how to do it as well....and I'm sure the majority would be able to take some nice pics. Maybe that's just good teaching? I also think that I could do the same thing with photoshop in regards to blah photos. Of course, knowing me...I can attribute that to my cockiness in being proficient in PS. So anyway...back to the plateau comment. There are certain images that are in style now...and there are biters in photography as well. This is the one thing that changes the style and direction of things. This is why painters quit painting religous scenes and rubenesque women. This is also why in a few years time...we'll probably be laughing at our high contrast, gritty, no tonal value having photos. The end result of this thought is to challenge yourself to do something better that doesn't incorporate all those things. Some of those techniques should probably always be observed...(rule of thirds) and some are just styles.

[Pilau Hands]

I've thought about it myself from time to time...so here mine is for what it's worth...

To me, a lot of photo is about documentation. That photo of ese's is great, but why? It's a big ball of light, some smoke, a building with interesting shadows...what's so special about it. That's what I love about photography sometimes. It's not so much about you, as it is about being there, wherever you are, and that exact point in time. Walking down the street everyday there are millions of things you could shoot that would be beautiful. But a photo is what you make a personal choice to look at harder than everything else for a second. It stands out to you for whatever reason, and maybe there isn't a whole lot that goes into that, cropping, contrast, whatever. What I'm interested in is that personal choice. A picture of a wrinkly old man may be fantastic on its own, but you're still reading into it. You're looking at it and for a split second you imagine what he's seen, where he's been. I was mulling it over when it comes to International photography. I've seen photo books of children from Tibet, locals near Angkor Wat, Bushmen in Africa, and as a westerner, I loved them and thought they were fantastic...which they were. Great colors when it applied, great contrasts in b/w ... but visually, it's foreign. We don't see it everyday therefore it's special. I thought, how many times have I seen a photo I loved and loved it only because of the subject matter not the actual print or physical effort it took to produce that work. You could take a disposable to Costa Rica and Americans would eat it up. It's a bias we have I just have to deal with.

It is in a sense really easy to make a great photo. It's all mathematics and formula. Have depth, contrast, etc etc. So I've realized the same thing you have...except in the end i still love it. In our visual culture, i like capturing seconds and putting them down on paper. Maybe instead of concentrating on how easy it is to shoot a thousand things that the art world would like, just concentrate on one. What is photography to you, why do you take pictures at all? Just take one shot, and think about why you're choosing that one instead of an infinite number of others.

[seeking]

i was looking forward to your comments.

i agree with you, and also kilo, but i also dont think its quite that simple. its not just a plateau that i'm at, its one that photography (and art as a whole) seems to be at. its like graphic design. there are 15 trillion good designers, and 11 great ones. its so rare that i see a photo and go 'oh shit, that's ill'... they all just seem so...contrived. im sure alot of that is what i'm putting on it, but i can see it very clearly none the less. i also know if i can find a way to push myself, and to look at things from a completely different perspective, and take pictures of new things, i would begin to enjoy it again, im just having difficulties finding that. in graffiti, there have always been people that i could draw inspiration from. not necesrily style, but people like joker, or revok, or ecb, or whoever, that were constantly breaking new ground, and proving that it could be done. photography doesnt have that luxury....not only is it much older and thus has seen most of its major reniscenses, but its also bound by the physical characteristics of our world....
i really didnt start all of this to complain, or to bring people down, or even to find answers, i brought it up because this is the 'photography' i've doing these last couple months...theory of photography....and if anyone could relate to it, or benefit from it, it would be you guys.

alot of what im dealing with, ultimitely, comes down to my completely unrealistic approach to things, and the speed with which i get bored of things. i dont like doing the same thing twice. if anyone is familiar with the little stickers i do, i never draw the same image over again. they're all one shot deals. ive never painted the same piece twice (simple letters excluded).... ive yet to accept that 'famous' artists will somtimes spend two years making 2 dozen versions of the same painting, before finally completing the one that we wind up knowing...to me that is just unaceptable, but at the same time, who the fuck am i?

blah...food for thought

[--zeSto--]

^ ADD ?

Do you think you've done all you can do with photography?
That there isn't an original idea left in you? Well if that's the case
then put it down and never look back, but I dont think that's the case.

Sure things look formulatic and a little contrived but that's just in how
YOU are seeing them. You see the thirds, the colour levels and all the
technical elements. People might not know that when they take the pics
but it seems like your not interested in pictures as a whole anymore.
Is it like you need to break it down into elements to really appreciate it?

Well I'm sure I'm not going to change your mind in any of this,
but I do recommend switching up your process and finding something new.

Or have a gallery show and listen to all the little punks either rip your shit up
or talk like it's the best shit ever done. that would change the perspectives quick fast.

[seeking]

dont think tht you cant 'change my mind'. my mind isnt made it, its just frustrated and unhappy. if i felt it was 'made up' i wouldnt have bothered talking about it.

[seeking]

i should also admit to a complete obsession with over analyzing things.
anytime im doing anything, im trying to figure out how something works, or why it is the way it is. it's not like a freaky obsession, just an extreme desire to understand things.
i wrote a book a couple years ago breaking down modern art and modern culture. it was more of a big magazine with alot of pictures, than a book really, but still....one of these days i need to finish it. its pretty dope.
but thats all whatever.


seeking/bored with a job

[Don Tahn]

these are from a few nights ago..
[img]http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00283145f00000032.jpg'>
[img]http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00283145f00000033.jpg'>
[img]http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00283145f00000034.jpg'>
[img]http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00283145f00000035.jpg'>
[img]http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00283145f00000036.jpg'>
sisters wanita and wanata?
[img]http://www.fotango.com/p/eba00283145f00000037.jpg'>
aww what a sweet kid.

not really photography i guess....i just take pics.

[seeking]

1,2,3 & 5, if technicaly done better, would be 'good'. not saying as photo's they arent good, but you know what i mean.

pilau, you must have posted that just when i did, cause i didnt see it till just now.

and as ive agreed with the others, i too will agree with you, it is about capturing that moment in time. i guess im just frustrated with the lack of angles, and lack of different ways to capture those moments.
and i should say that what i'm talking about with all of this, is mostly 'landscape' or 'still' images. photographing anything that conveys a feeling of 'life' or is an action shot, something depending on capturing that split second in time, is a whole different ballgame, and is not at all subject to the same scrutiny.

i dont know. im tired, im hungry, im warm.
im listening to eminem.

[O Mei Shan]

some stuff done last night.
[img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/203680/headlights1.jpg'>

[img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/203680/lightstuff.jpg'>

[img]http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2003-5/203680/lightstuff2.jpg'>

i think the last ones my favourite!

[O Mei Shan]

sorry about the quality, thats village photos for ya, what other image hosting site can i use?

[MrChupacabra]

bumpo

[jbrshmonster]

yes. bump..
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3075114a.jpg'>
[img]http://seemesmile.com/photos4/3075102a.jpg'>

don tahn i like that second one...

this thread got way too serious..they're only photographs...
have a good night everyone...

[ClueTwo]

Personally I think this is some really good photography...

[img]http://www.eshiu.com/images/m1_6.jpg'>
[img]http://www.eshiu.com/images/p2_5.jpg'>
Not only is that an excellent portrait, but she is absolutely gorgeous..
[img]http://www.eshiu.com/images/m1_4.jpg'>

[O Mei Shan]

^^^^^nice. the first one i like, but the others arent to my taste. very well taken shots tho so bump bump bump!

[Born Loser]

fuck i got some pics of this huge building on fire..I need to scan them

[seeking]

see, after talking my way through all of that, i realize its not photography im sick of, it's 'art fag' photography of inanimate objects and surfaces. i need to start taking pictures of inanimate objects and surfaces with people on them.

there, all better now.

[O Mei Shan]

just go take some stupid photos instead of being so serious!

[seeking]

just fuck off.
sorry my love for photography goes a bit deeper than the bulb setting and a set of tail lights. trust me, i wish i could just not care.... god forbid someone try and spark up a dialogue...



seeking/not a morning person

[SteveAustin]

ha-ha...glad we could help you out with that seeking.

I used to hate people in my photos. I've since realized that interesting people make things even better.

[--zeSto--]

Originally posted by seeking
there, all better now.

good.

I wasn't used to you being so ummm..... apethetic?

[seeking]

me 'apathetic'? absolutely unheard of... haha


seeks/purefuckingapathy

[MrChupacabra]

Originally posted by seeking

sorry my love for photography goes a bit deeper than the bulb setting and a set of tail lights. trust me, i wish i could just not care...
haha, i love long exposures of cars, but the truth is i completely see what you're getting at.

Chupa/notintendingtostartmoreconversationonthetopiconers

[O Mei Shan]

Originally posted by seeking
just fuck off.
sorry my love for photography goes a bit deeper than the bulb setting and a set of tail lights. trust me, i wish i could just not care.... god forbid someone try and spark up a dialogue...



seeking/not a morning person

no need to tell me to fuck off, and no need to take the piss out of what i do. I never said i was the best photographer in the world. Im happy taking the photos i take.

[EiZ]

me!!![img]http://www.freephoto-i.net/users/5275/39895'>

[hyrax]

Originally posted by thewillyman
[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/kleeklookleekloo.jpg'>

hey pmb i was looking at this photo and i thought that maybe if you adjusted the aperture and shutterspeed on your camera this photo wouldnt suck as much. Now, the photo lacks any real depth and the composure is all wrong. maybe if you step back from the subject a little you will actually be able to see what is going on. i'd suggest you use a minolta 1400 with 26 exposure film. wind it on manually and develop it in the dark room on your own. make sure you dont let any light get to the film because maybe thats why its mostly dark. overexposed. and you should go back at a more suitalbe time of day to take the picture. I'd also suggest some documentation and a little bit better composure. But i mean obvoiusly you're a beginner so keep at it son.

you got beef with this guy or what? people do take silhouette photos you know

[Tyler Durden]

hahahah things are getting real interesting suddenly.