View Full Version : Kobe & That Overdosing Lying Slut/CHARGES ARE FILED
mapo returns
07-18-2003, 10:04 PM
im watching the press conference now..
lets see if he presses charges..
CHARGES ARE FILED!!!!!
1 charge of sexual assault...class 3 felony..
from 4 years to life...
or 20 to life probation!!!!
OH FUCK!!!!!!!
August 6 for his hearing!!!!!!
Dick Quickwood
07-18-2003, 10:06 PM
damn thats fucked, not like hes going to do any time though
mapo returns
07-18-2003, 10:08 PM
Originally posted by ARCEL
damn thats fucked, not like hes going to do any time though
people said that shit about tyson though..ya never know
JimmieWalker
07-18-2003, 10:10 PM
HAHAHAHAHA....good thing the lakers just got Gary Payton to fill in while Kobe's doing his bid.
WrIot
07-18-2003, 10:12 PM
i wonder what his wife is thinkin right now...hahaha
Dick Quickwood
07-18-2003, 10:13 PM
then again, he might be found not guilty
JimmieWalker
07-18-2003, 10:14 PM
Originally posted by WrIot
i wonder what his wife is thinkin right now...hahaha
She Is thinking...."ok I will take half....peace".
--zeSto--
07-18-2003, 10:16 PM
He wont serve a day.
dont you people remember OJ >?
mapo returns
07-18-2003, 10:18 PM
yeah I remember OJ.
I remember Mike Tyson too.
Smart
07-18-2003, 10:23 PM
I heard that Kobe (through his attorneys) has confirmed that he had sex with her...
KING BLING
07-18-2003, 10:25 PM
EAGLE, Colo. -- Los Angeles Lakers star Kobe Bryant has been charged with one count of felony sexual assault, Eagle County prosecutor Mark Hurlbert announced today after two weeks of deliberation.
Bryant will face four years to life in prison, if convicted.
“ I made the mistake of adultery. I have to answer to my wife and my God for my actions that night and I pray that both will forgive me. ”
— Kobe Bryant, in a statement released by his attorney
Bryant's Denver-based attorney, Pamela Mackey, has scheduled a news conference at 9 p.m. ET time tonight at the Staples Center in Los Angeles, but there is no word whether Bryant will be there. Mackey also released a statement on Bryant's behalf shortly after the announcement.
"I am innocent of the charges filed today. I did not assault the woman who is accusing me," Bryant said in the statement. "I made the mistake of adultery. I have to answer to my wife and my God for my actions that night and I pray that both will forgive me. ... Nothing that happened June 30th was against the will of the woman who now falsely accuses me."
Bryant, 24, turned himself in to authorities July 4 and was released on $25,000 bond. The woman claims he attacked her at the Lodge & Spa at Cordillera in nearby Edwards on June 30.
His attorney has said the five-time NBA All-Star is innocent and was in Colorado for knee surgery at a Vail clinic. In a brief interview with the Los Angeles Times last week, Bryant said he "would never do something like that.''
Bryant attended the ESPY Awards in Los Angeles on Wednesday night, but avoided the media in his first public appearance since his arrest. He sat in the audience smiling and laughing with his wife, Vanessa.
--zeSto--
07-18-2003, 10:56 PM
from The Smoking Gun
sorry if the items have already been covered.
JULY 18--Two weeks after Kobe Bryant's arrest for felony sexual assault, prosecutors today announced that the NBA star has been formally charged in connection with an alleged attack on a 19-year-old employee of a ritzy Colorado lodge. Eagle County District Attorney Mark Hurlbert told reporters that, if convicted of the Class 3 felony, the 24-year-old Los Angeles Lakers star could face between four years and life in prison. Below you'll find a copy of the criminal complaint charging Bryant with the alleged sex attack. In a statement released by Bryant's agents, the athlete asserted that, "I am innocent of the charges filed today. I did not assault the woman who is accusing me. I made the mistake of adultery. I have to answer to my wife and my God for my actions that night and I pray that both will forgive me. Nothing that happened June 30th was against the will of the woman who now falsely accuses me." (4 pages)
Born Loser
07-18-2003, 11:05 PM
yeah he definitly wont do any time
crave
07-19-2003, 01:23 AM
people love the drama. fucked up situation no matter how you look at it.
ctrl+alt+del
07-19-2003, 01:46 AM
shit, i want to see this girl. it couldnt have been worth it.
Rectum
07-19-2003, 03:07 AM
Originally posted by ctrl+alt+del
shit, i want to see this girl. it couldnt have been worth it.
same...are there any photos of her...........
??
mr_president
07-19-2003, 03:51 AM
:eek:
i feel bad for his wife... i swear... black athletes these days....
:lol:
jk..
mapo returns
07-19-2003, 03:56 AM
yeah i have a pic of her..i checked the FAQ for how to post pics..whoever put this fatcap site together is a genius..good lookin..
[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/kobesgirl.jpg'>
ill bet when her hair is down and shit shes fine..id fuck her.
eseLokE1uno
07-19-2003, 04:49 AM
i want a better pic
mapo returns
07-19-2003, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by eseLokE1uno
i want a better pic
and i want a million dollars, who fucking cares.
quit complaining.
mr_president
07-19-2003, 06:16 AM
WHITE BITCHES = THE DEVIL
:lol:
AHHAHAHAHAHA KOBE GOT CAUGHT!!!
:yum: :lick: :lol: :king:
Pistol
07-21-2003, 08:53 PM
Katelyn Kristine Faber, 19 years old
email: fabe5088@blue.unco.edu
0817 Brush Creek Ct.
Eagle, CO 81631
(970)328-6652
Pistol
07-21-2003, 09:24 PM
http://www.binaryreport.com/
crave
07-21-2003, 09:31 PM
i just called her, you know, trying to line a little somethin up. but she wasn't home, so i left a message.
--zeSto--
07-21-2003, 09:36 PM
I dont think it's fair that her identity is up on the net for
people who have absolutely no connection to her or Kobe to see.
Sure the shit sounds like a fraud to me, but that's no excuse for
the harrasment she's going to get.
DREDZ
07-21-2003, 09:42 PM
that's fuct up
nomadawhat
07-21-2003, 09:44 PM
why beleive kobe now, after he tried to hold out on some of the facts til the ax dropped.... he should of been up-front.... karma's a bitch. but money and fame will make everything ok once again.
i was wondering when photo's would be available..... that girl is going to get a lot of crap.
Devilush
07-21-2003, 10:24 PM
Whoa that’s pretty harsh to put all that information on the net about her. But whatever, I’m pretty much a bitch and could care less about the girl.
Didn’t kobe say that he did have sex with the girl? I could have sworn that he said that they had sex but it was mutual.
Weapon X
07-21-2003, 10:31 PM
* edit - i see the pic.
JimmieWalker
07-21-2003, 10:42 PM
I guess when you have steak every night sometimes you want a bologna sandwich huh.
i11igul
07-21-2003, 10:51 PM
damn, cool, im getting my fone, gonna leave a message for da bitch. teller i know people in eagle wholl kid nap here, tie her up, then ill bang her from behind letting her head go through the headboard.
JimmieWalker
07-21-2003, 10:55 PM
the link works for me...and yeah you need to see. Shit I can't believe they gave out her phone number.
yoink
07-21-2003, 10:56 PM
yeah, that kinda sucks her personal info is out like that, semi intruding, whoever is right or wrong, Kobe or her, its still a major breach into someones life affecting everyone around them, family included.
mapo returns
07-21-2003, 11:02 PM
thats straight fucked up.
she doesnt deserve that.
why does everyone accuse her of lying? nobody has any evidence of what went down. the prosecutor does, and after reviewing the evidence he came to the conclusion that he could prove beyond a reasonable doubt. kobe will get his day in court.
most people say shit like 'kobe wouldnt do that'. how the fuck do you know? you dont fucking know him! you know his public image. most of the time a public image is straight bullshit made for marketing purposes and doesnt reflect on their life behind closed doors. companies like sprite, nike, like its endorsers to have clean-cut nice guy image. on the other hand, if kobe were a rapper signed to death row, they would project him as a thug off the street. the endorsing personality is like a clean piece of paper..and death row records would take it and paint a picture of 'thug'. while pepsi and nike would paint a picture of 'mr. smiley'. in the basketball world, kobe is boy-next-door and allen iverson is the tough guy thug. if this was iverson being accused you'd say he probably did it. because you believe the hype and the marketing machine. its all bullshit. dont buy into it. dont be a fuckin sheep.
is it the way he dribbles a basketball, or is it the way he smiles in his sprite and mcdonalds commercials that make you think he wouldnt do it?
everyone said 'oh how fucking beautiful hes wearing his daughters hospital bracelet during a game. what a family man'. yeah kobe is more like a families man. according to reports kobe had just met the girl and already summoned her up to his room within an hour. that tells me this is protocol in his life. she didnt even seduce his ass.
i would bet it went down like this. kobe sees girl. kobe has sexual desire for girl. kobe summons girl to room. girl is impressed because kobe is basketball player. things start to get hot. girl undresses. kobe undresses.
as for what happened next. i dont know. if the girl at anytime said to stop, even if they had already been bangin for 10 minutes..if kobe goes in her one more time that is rape. maybe that happened. nobody knows except those two, so dont pretend like you do.
the girl isnt even going after money, unlike the boy in the jackson case.
girls already go through enough shit when they report a rape, thats why alot of rapes go unreported. and its a damn shame. she doesnt deserve this.
Dr. Dazzle
07-21-2003, 11:04 PM
Hey it's Pistol!
i11igul
07-21-2003, 11:06 PM
sounds like you thought it through and i agree that people want to believe him because hes a superstar and shes a nobody and maybe she wants something. anyway i guess well have to see what the prosecuter thinks he has thats so good. plus i dont know why he banged her (consentual or not) because his wife is fuckin eye candy, i watched the news conferance at full attention, damn
i11igul
07-21-2003, 11:19 PM
ah the wonders of the information super highway, what did that take to find 10 15 minutes.. ha
villain
07-21-2003, 11:23 PM
That's some straight bullshit! WTF since when did it become SOP to put peoples information out like that? I don't know shit about Kobe man all I know is that if he's cheatin on his wife that says a few things to me like A>he doesn't appreciate what he's got. B>he doesn't respect others feelings. at least his wifes feelings whom he should respect more than most all others therefore having no respect for the feelings of others could make him a potential rapist. So he's smiley on sprite commercials? That makes him a good guy? If you ask me he's probably just another mammon worshipping capitalist pig like the rest of them. Of course my opinion doesn't amount to jack shit cause I'm not rich and powerful so I don't know why I even said this. It's just fucking bullshit they gotta victimize the victim like that.... She's not even after the money! That should say something right there.
It's like yeah Kobe fucked you over bitch and you called him out on it now our whole society is going to fuck you over because basketball has higher priorities than truth, justice and righteousness.... fucking bullshit. i'll say it again. fucking bullshit.
hold the cup
07-21-2003, 11:26 PM
Originally posted by mapo returns
.id fuck her.
WebsterUno
07-21-2003, 11:33 PM
[img]http://www.koolpages.com/kobe8bryant/lainey1.jpg'>
damn, he had a dime!
--zeSto--
07-21-2003, 11:34 PM
I've got to agree with mapo on this one.
People dont know what happend and it's not fair
to assume he's innocent just becuase he won your team the playoffs.
and really... they're attacking her character because whe did what?
The Colorado woman who has accused Kobe Bryant of sexual assault overdosed on pills and was rushed to a hospital two months before the alleged incident with Bryant, one of her close friends told the Orange County Register.
Take a few too many pills and make a scene. Well that doesn't mean
shit. I mean who hasn't had a few regretable intoxicated experieces.
It doesn't make her charge any less serious becuase of who she is.
She's clearly not a crackhead junkie and she really doesn't deserve this
shit. No one does, man or woman, rich or poor. Private business should
stay private.
casekonly
07-21-2003, 11:36 PM
she picked up for me.
villain
07-21-2003, 11:37 PM
If these kinds of trends keep up people will be too afraid to speak out for what's right for fear that some paparazzi or wanna be's are going to jump all over them.... Hello survelliance society... welcome to the police state!
casekonly
07-21-2003, 11:37 PM
i did claim to be larry bird, though
Devilush
07-22-2003, 12:03 AM
i never really liked kobe anyway.
StarzAbove
07-22-2003, 12:03 AM
I wish kobe the best of LUCK!
StarzAbove
07-22-2003, 01:07 AM
GOOD LUCK KOBE!
SleepAnDream
07-22-2003, 01:11 AM
Originally posted by Pistol
Katelyn Kristine Faber, 19 years old
email: fabe5088@blue.unco.edu
0817 Brush Creek Ct.
Eagle, CO 81631
(970)328-6652
thats so fuckin creepy....
DankLordz
07-22-2003, 01:51 AM
Originally posted by mr_president
:eek:
i feel bad for his wife... i swear... black athletes these days....
:lol:
jk..
YOU ARE SUCH AN IGNORANT FUCKING ASSHOLE. WHAT THE FACT THAT HE IS BLACK HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING? I AM GOING TO HIT YOU WITH A FUCKING HAMMER.
RACIST PIECE OF SHIT.
SPLINTER
07-22-2003, 01:56 AM
im a hardcore laker fan, but if kobe really did rape her, wheter or not she was under the influence, i hope they throw his ass in jail. i could care less, he should get what he deserves, fuck him.
unconscience
07-22-2003, 02:05 AM
who seriously called her?
cuz i wanna hear a story.:D
Poop Man Bob
07-22-2003, 02:11 AM
Originally posted by mapo returns
thats straight fucked up.
she doesnt deserve that.
why does everyone accuse her of lying? nobody has any evidence of what went down. the prosecutor does, and after reviewing the evidence he came to the conclusion that he could prove beyond a reasonable doubt. kobe will get his day in court.
most people say shit like 'kobe wouldnt do that'. how the fuck do you know? you dont fucking know him! you know his public image. most of the time a public image is straight bullshit made for marketing purposes and doesnt reflect on their life behind closed doors. companies like sprite, nike, like its endorsers to have clean-cut nice guy image. on the other hand, if kobe were a rapper signed to death row, they would project him as a thug off the street. the endorsing personality is like a clean piece of paper..and death row records would take it and paint a picture of 'thug'. while pepsi and nike would paint a picture of 'mr. smiley'. in the basketball world, kobe is boy-next-door and allen iverson is the tough guy thug. if this was iverson being accused you'd say he probably did it. because you believe the hype and the marketing machine. its all bullshit. dont buy into it. dont be a fuckin sheep.
is it the way he dribbles a basketball, or is it the way he smiles in his sprite and mcdonalds commercials that make you think he wouldnt do it?
everyone said 'oh how fucking beautiful hes wearing his daughters hospital bracelet during a game. what a family man'. yeah kobe is more like a families man. according to reports kobe had just met the girl and already summoned her up to his room within an hour. that tells me this is protocol in his life. she didnt even seduce his ass.
i would bet it went down like this. kobe sees girl. kobe has sexual desire for girl. kobe summons girl to room. girl is impressed because kobe is basketball player. things start to get hot. girl undresses. kobe undresses.
as for what happened next. i dont know. if the girl at anytime said to stop, even if they had already been bangin for 10 minutes..if kobe goes in her one more time that is rape. maybe that happened. nobody knows except those two, so dont pretend like you do.
the girl isnt even going after money, unlike the boy in the jackson case.
girls already go through enough shit when they report a rape, thats why alot of rapes go unreported. and its a damn shame. she doesnt deserve this.
I agree 100%.
Poop Man Bob
07-22-2003, 02:17 AM
Oh, and the fact that she ODed on pills a few months prior to the alleged rape will never see the light of day in court ... which is exactly why the prosecution is leaking the information now in an attempt to influence the potential jury pool.
In order for a piece of evidence to be admitted into court, it must be relevant. Relevancy consists of two elements - materiality (is the fact of consequence?) and probative value (does the evidence make a fact more or less probable?). Her ODing has no bearing on whether or not Kobe committed the alleged rape.
nomadawhat
07-22-2003, 02:22 AM
^^ I was reading somewhere that could be a big boost to the defense, because it can be used to show her flawed character and bad decision making and how unsteady emotionally she is/was. i think thats bullshit but not sure if it will get to court or not.
villain
07-22-2003, 02:30 AM
If my ass can rot in jail and worse why shouldn't Kobe's? Maybe I should've become a basketball player....
nomadawhat
07-22-2003, 02:30 AM
Originally posted by nomadawhat
^^ I was reading somewhere
ESPN Story (http://espn.go.com/nba/news/2003/0720/1583145.html)
The Register quoted legal experts as saying the news of the overdose will be a major advantage for Bryant's defense team.
"This is powerful evidence and the answer to the defense's prayers," Robert Pugsley, a criminal law professor at Southwestern University School of Law in Los Angeles, said. Pugsley added that this kind of evidence, if exploited by the defense, could be enough to shut down the case before it reaches trial.
"[Defense attorneys are] looking for a way to demonstrate that this woman is hysterical and over-reactive," Pugsley said. "This is literally dynamite evidence, a bonanza for the defense and a landmine for prosecution."
MOOGLE?
07-22-2003, 03:35 AM
Originally posted by DankLordz
YOU ARE SUCH AN IGNORANT FUCKING ASSHOLE. WHAT THE FACT THAT HE IS BLACK HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING? I AM GOING TO HIT YOU WITH A FUCKING HAMMER.
RACIST PIECE OF SHIT.
but you gotta admit sir president has a point......to an extent
just think of how many girls that have been paid off to keep their silence by so many other atheletes..
I know what balls he'll be dribbling for the next 4 to life..
Cell mate: So what cha in for?
Kolbe: (whispers) ----
Cell mate: So you like balls?
DankLordz
07-22-2003, 04:10 AM
Originally posted by MOOGLE?
but you gotta admit sir president has a point......to an extent
just think of how many girls that have been paid off to keep their silence by so many other atheletes..
Are you saying this only happens with black atheletes? come on now.
Ignorance gets the hammer.
Weapon X
07-22-2003, 04:14 AM
small town girl always wanted to be famous, I bet.
Rectum
07-22-2003, 04:27 AM
Originally posted by mapo returns
thats straight fucked up.
she doesnt deserve that.
why does everyone accuse her of lying? nobody has any evidence of what went down. the prosecutor does, and after reviewing the evidence he came to the conclusion that he could prove beyond a reasonable doubt. kobe will get his day in court.
most people say shit like 'kobe wouldnt do that'. how the fuck do you know? you dont fucking know him! you know his public image. most of the time a public image is straight bullshit made for marketing purposes and doesnt reflect on their life behind closed doors. companies like sprite, nike, like its endorsers to have clean-cut nice guy image. on the other hand, if kobe were a rapper signed to death row, they would project him as a thug off the street. the endorsing personality is like a clean piece of paper..and death row records would take it and paint a picture of 'thug'. while pepsi and nike would paint a picture of 'mr. smiley'. in the basketball world, kobe is boy-next-door and allen iverson is the tough guy thug. if this was iverson being accused you'd say he probably did it. because you believe the hype and the marketing machine. its all bullshit. dont buy into it. dont be a fuckin sheep.
is it the way he dribbles a basketball, or is it the way he smiles in his sprite and mcdonalds commercials that make you think he wouldnt do it?
everyone said 'oh how fucking beautiful hes wearing his daughters hospital bracelet during a game. what a family man'. yeah kobe is more like a families man. according to reports kobe had just met the girl and already summoned her up to his room within an hour. that tells me this is protocol in his life. she didnt even seduce his ass.
i would bet it went down like this. kobe sees girl. kobe has sexual desire for girl. kobe summons girl to room. girl is impressed because kobe is basketball player. things start to get hot. girl undresses. kobe undresses.
as for what happened next. i dont know. if the girl at anytime said to stop, even if they had already been bangin for 10 minutes..if kobe goes in her one more time that is rape. maybe that happened. nobody knows except those two, so dont pretend like you do.
the girl isnt even going after money, unlike the boy in the jackson case.
girls already go through enough shit when they report a rape, thats why alot of rapes go unreported. and its a damn shame. she doesnt deserve this.
its true yknow
Poop Man Bob
07-22-2003, 04:45 AM
Originally posted by nomadawhat
ESPN Story (http://espn.go.com/nba/news/2003/0720/1583145.html)
The Register quoted legal experts as saying the news of the overdose will be a major advantage for Bryant's defense team.
"This is powerful evidence and the answer to the defense's prayers," Robert Pugsley, a criminal law professor at Southwestern University School of Law in Los Angeles, said. Pugsley added that this kind of evidence, if exploited by the defense, could be enough to shut down the case before it reaches trial.
"[Defense attorneys are] looking for a way to demonstrate that this woman is hysterical and over-reactive," Pugsley said. "This is literally dynamite evidence, a bonanza for the defense and a landmine for prosecution."
Fox Sports story, written by a lawyer. (http://www.foxsports.com/content/view?contentId=1537506)
The “big news” Sunday was that Kobe Bryant’s accuser overdosed — perhaps intentionally — on some kind of pills two months before her encounter with Bryant. But big news is all it is — I believe it’s irrelevant to Bryant’s sexual assault charge and therefore inadmissible evidence.
A piece of evidence is legally relevant if it makes a fact that’s at issue in the case more or less likely. There are only two ways the reported overdose could be relevant.
First, it arguably could be used to show that Bryant's accuser is lying about whether the sex was consensual. But the fact that a woman overdosed when she found out her boyfriend was dating someone else — which is what apparently happened here — doesn’t mean she’s a liar. It just means she was extremely bummed out.
Second, this evidence arguably could show that on the fateful night, the woman was unable to accurately perceive or remember what happened, so her testimony should not be believed. But the fact that she was under the influence of a drug two months beforehand tells us nothing about whether she was under the influence on the night of June 30.
There has been no allegation — at least so far — that this woman has a pattern of drug abuse. If such evidence existed, it would be relevant and admissible to show her mind was affected on June 30, but one event — particularly in response to the unusual circumstance of discovering your boyfriend is no longer your boyfriend — is not a valid basis to believe that she was under the influence of a drug two months later. We don’t even know if this is the type of drug that affected her ability to perceive or remember her experiences.
So if the defense wants to establish that she was on drugs that night, they’ll need specific evidence relating to that night.
.. snip ..
The only way the overdose would be relevant to the young woman’s account would be if it gave the jury a reason to believe that her description of what she and Bryant actually said and did on June 30 was inaccurate. And overdosing on pills two months earlier because her boyfriend left her simply doesn’t do that.
There is another reason to believe the trial judge in Colorado — whoever he or she turns out to be — will rule the overdose evidence inadmissible. (Given that it appears almost everyone in her town knows her or knows of her, I think a change of venue to another town in Colorado is very likely.)
Under Colorado’s rape shield law, evidence of a victim’s sexual conduct with anyone besides the defendant is presumed to be inadmissible. If the defense wants to introduce such evidence, it has to make a motion for a hearing before the judge (but not the jury) where the defense can try to convince the judge that there is something special about the victim’s sexual conduct with someone else that makes it relevant to the alleged sexual assault.
Only if the judge finds that the presumption against admissibility of this type of evidence has been overcome by the particular relevance of the accuser’s past sexual conduct will the judge allow the jury to hear about it. And that still won’t make the rest of her sexual experiences admissible.
Now I realize that overdosing on pills isn’t sexual conduct at all, and that the rape shield law doesn’t actually apply here. But what the rape shield law tells us is that a judge in Colorado will be very solicitous of the privacy of the accused, and will allow embarrassing details about her past to be put before the jury only if the judge finds — after scrutinizing them very carefully — that they really are relevant to the alleged rape.
So when the defense tries to get the overdose into evidence — and you can be sure they’ll try their hardest — don’t expect the judge to reply: “Sure, no problem.”
But even if the judge keeps this evidence out, there is still a real possibility that Bryant’s lawyers will be able to argue successfully to the jury that there was a sexual misunderstanding between Bryant and his accuser — that she thought she had made it clear to Bryant that he should go no further, but that a reasonable man in his position would not have understood that she wanted him to stop ...
~KRYLON2~
07-22-2003, 07:06 AM
who gives a fuck
JUDONO?
07-22-2003, 07:25 AM
ha I was watching the news and they were interviewing some guys
that were at venice doing a piece that said free kobe. I dont know
who it was but I think its funny beacuse He's not even in jail yet.
mr_president
07-22-2003, 07:35 AM
Originally posted by mapo returns
thats straight fucked up.
she doesnt deserve that.
why does everyone accuse her of lying? nobody has any evidence of what went down. the prosecutor does, and after reviewing the evidence he came to the conclusion that he could prove beyond a reasonable doubt. kobe will get his day in court.
most people say shit like 'kobe wouldnt do that'. how the fuck do you know? you dont fucking know him! you know his public image. most of the time a public image is straight bullshit made for marketing purposes and doesnt reflect on their life behind closed doors. companies like sprite, nike, like its endorsers to have clean-cut nice guy image. on the other hand, if kobe were a rapper signed to death row, they would project him as a thug off the street. the endorsing personality is like a clean piece of paper..and death row records would take it and paint a picture of 'thug'. while pepsi and nike would paint a picture of 'mr. smiley'. in the basketball world, kobe is boy-next-door and allen iverson is the tough guy thug. if this was iverson being accused you'd say he probably did it. because you believe the hype and the marketing machine. its all bullshit. dont buy into it. dont be a fuckin sheep.
is it the way he dribbles a basketball, or is it the way he smiles in his sprite and mcdonalds commercials that make you think he wouldnt do it?
everyone said 'oh how fucking beautiful hes wearing his daughters hospital bracelet during a game. what a family man'. yeah kobe is more like a families man. according to reports kobe had just met the girl and already summoned her up to his room within an hour. that tells me this is protocol in his life. she didnt even seduce his ass.
i would bet it went down like this. kobe sees girl. kobe has sexual desire for girl. kobe summons girl to room. girl is impressed because kobe is basketball player. things start to get hot. girl undresses. kobe undresses.
as for what happened next. i dont know. if the girl at anytime said to stop, even if they had already been bangin for 10 minutes..if kobe goes in her one more time that is rape. maybe that happened. nobody knows except those two, so dont pretend like you do.
the girl isnt even going after money, unlike the boy in the jackson case.
girls already go through enough shit when they report a rape, thats why alot of rapes go unreported. and its a damn shame. she doesnt deserve this.
the man has a point, a few of them...
AORAone
07-22-2003, 08:10 AM
i was at my bosses house watching wrestling on the tv and some people had signs up that said "free KOBE" or KOBE'S innocent" i was like WTF? i dont watch the news its too depressing so i had no clue. 12 oz news forum got all that cleared up.:king: but seriously hes not even in jail yet, wtf?
ctrl+alt+del
07-22-2003, 08:50 AM
from that picture she looks like shes in gymnastics.
and if theres one thing i learned from high school cons, its that gymnasts dont got very big breasssstessess. they gotta be lightweight and aerodynamic ya know?
haha i dont know. shes still got face though.
[img]http://www.12ozprophet.com/ubb/icons/icon26.gif'>
king kong
07-25-2003, 02:31 AM
if i had his wife i would never cheat...:cool:
nomadawhat
07-25-2003, 07:47 AM
PMB.. good read, i don't think it should have anything to do with the case, but isn't that what some lawyers get payed for, to flip the script and get the jurors to think in ways they may not usually? you study law , right? so you know much more about the technicatlites(i hope) than i do.
I am not taking sides in this, i don't know either of the involed parties, who knows what happened, there is still alot to be revealed. but Mapo, maybe she is doing it for money...maybe not off the bat or directly, but this type of press in today's society will lead to all kinds of opportunities to capitalize on, regaurdless of the verdict. maybe...
kobe has already lied to the public and his wife, he didn't admit too the adultery until he was forced...this makes me go hmmm..and question if he's doing it again.. but maybe he told his wife...
Even though i think its silly for someone to hold up a kobe's innocent sign, hey its true, innocent until proven guilty. but its just stupid to hold up or wear a free kobe shirt/sign... fool will not see the inside of a jail.
blah..bah...i don't get on 12oz wasted hardly ever..sorry if i'm rambling...
Hey! posting personal information on the internet is tiiiight. Quick! somebody post mine!!!!!!!!
JUDONO?
07-25-2003, 08:05 AM
damn i heard on Howard Stern that this bitch was bragging about how she boned Kobe and how big he was at a party.
king kong
07-26-2003, 12:22 AM
his wife or the girl? who was bragging?
Scrabble
07-26-2003, 12:32 AM
The girl
i think hes guilty, but i hate Kobe, so...
CNN said that the the pictures of the girl on the net, arent even her. Someone probably pointed that out already, i dont know.
king kong
07-26-2003, 12:40 AM
the guy is talented, but damn the people who think he's the next jordan, the man has a 7-2 360 pound monster...imagine this shaq with the old jordan or even better my boy t-mac with shaq....but whatever that bitch is flaw she could of ran out of the room and i dont believe he locked the door and forced him self on her....they need to send malone to jail instead.
KING BLING
07-26-2003, 12:54 AM
Originally posted by king kong
the guy is talented, but damn the people who think he's the next jordan, the man has a 7-2 360 pound monster...imagine this shaq with the old jordan or even better my boy t-mac with shaq....but whatever that bitch is flaw she could of ran out of the room and i dont believe he locked the door and forced him self on her....they need to send malone to jail instead.
shhhhhh, no need to prove that you're dim
$$$$$$$$$$$$
07-26-2003, 04:26 AM
maybee the kings will have a chance now!!
king kong
07-26-2003, 05:05 AM
if no one gets injured
the wolves have a sick ass team and so does the nets.
All I have to say is..."Tough Shit,It's Hard to Chew"
StarzAbove
07-26-2003, 05:28 AM
A $4million dollar ring fixes everyone up
BLING BLING
Scrabble
07-26-2003, 05:31 AM
I heard about the 4million $ ring. Thats reFUCKINGdiculous. I would take that shit, and divorce him.
king kong
07-27-2003, 12:50 AM
thats more then rediculous...
i usually dont give a rats ass about starving countries and homeless bums but damn that could of helped alot of people and make his reputation a little better if he donated that instead of looking like a dog trying to get back in to the house.
Poop Man Bob
07-28-2003, 03:12 PM
http://sportsbybrooks.com/mattdrudge.html
LOS ANGELES - Sunday night Matt Drudge reported on his nationally syndicated radio show (heard at 7:15 p.m. Pacific time on KFI-AM in Los Angeles) the most provocative "dirty sex details" of the Kobe Bryant sexual assualt case so far.
Excerpt: "I've decided to reveal some of the dirty sex details of the case. I have been told it's anal sex. ... My sources have been telling me.
"That's why it's going to be controversial when it goes to trial. It's what is causing people a lot of uncomfortable feelings.
"Some of the details (of the case) are explosive. Dateline (NBC) had some of this information and decided not to air it. ... This speculation is quite solid from where I sit."
Drudge's revelation is nothing new to people frequenting message boards and newsgroups on the internet - but it does mark the first time someone has reported it (anal sex) via a mainstream media outlet.
"uncomfortable feelings"
it seems that theres more uncomfortable things here than just feelings.......
mr_president
07-28-2003, 09:02 PM
kobe gonna be sitting next to r kelly in jail...
hahahahaha :lol:
and about the anal sex... maybe kobe was the reciever!
:eek:
:lol:
king kong
07-29-2003, 12:40 AM
:lol:
Poop Man Bob
07-30-2003, 06:52 PM
Apparently the pictures everyone's been posting aren't of the accuser.
http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/US/GMA0...identified.html (http://abcnews.go.com/sections/GMA/US/GMA030730Wrongly_identified.html)
http://a.abcnews.com/media/GMA/images/abc_gma_lovell_030730_nh.jpg'>
[i]Katie Lovell says her picture ended up on dozens of Web sites that were falsely identifying her as Kobe Bryant's accuser.
The Wrong Girl’
Teen Feels ‘Violated’ After Being Wrongly ID’d as Kobe Bryant’s Accuser
July 30— After news broke that basketball star Kobe Bryant had been accused of rape, Katie Lovell found herself in the spotlight, depicted as the accuser. There was just one problem: they had the wrong girl.
The 18-year-old, who graduated this spring with honors from a Colorado high school, found out from a friend two weeks ago that her photo had been posted on numerous Web sites that were misidentifying her as Bryant's accuser.
Chat room users on the sites were calling her obscene names, and some sites showed bogus images in which her face was superimposed over another body, and doctored images depicted her in sexual positions with Bryant. Some sites asked users to rate Lovell's looks on a scale of one to 10.
"I was really upset by the whole situation," Lovell said on ABCNEWS' Good Morning America. "Like many other girls my age, I am self-conscious about myself. Going on Web sites and seeing hundreds of people rate my pictures one through 10 magnified that by 10," she said.
Lovell says she wants to get the message out to Web sites that have inaccurately posted her picture and wrongly indicated she is the alleged victim.
"I want to say, take my pictures off. You've got the wrong girl," Lovell said.
Hoping It Would Go Away
Lovell's mother, Beth Matthews, is equally upset. "I was furious," Mattews said. "I'm a helpless mother and my daughter is smeared all over the Internet," she said.
Lovell said her family initially thought her photo was only on one Web site describing her as Bryant's accuser, so they shrugged it off. Both Lovell and the actual accuser are blondes who are close in age and attended Eagle County High School in a small town of just 3,700 people.
"It didn't really hit me that hard, just because it was one site," Lovell said. "So I thought, you know, we live in the same town so maybe people just mix up the girls or whatever. But, after a couple of days it wasn't just on one site anymore," Lovell said.
The identity of the real Bryant accuser has not been released by most news organizations, including ABCNEWS, because they do not generally identify accusers in sexual assault cases.
But interest in the accuser is high, and there has been rampant speculation about her on some Web sites.
Lovell said it took just a few days for her picture to spread to dozens of other sites.
Bryant is accused of raping a 19-year-old Eagle woman on June 30 at the hotel where the woman worked. Bryant, who is married and the father of a young child, has denied the charge, saying he is guilty only of adultery.
Considering Action Against the Web Sites
Lovell, a former prom queen who made excellent grades in school and was active in community service and sports, found herself being labeled a whore by people who never even met her. One of her prom pictures appeared on several Internet sites with nasty comments posted around it.
Lovell's mother wrote e-mails to the various Web sites, saying that she is the young woman's mother and that they had the wrong person. Though most took Lovell's name and photo down, and some even explained the mistake online, others refused. Matthews has since hired an attorney.
"This is a travesty," said attorney Sienna LaRene. "She was violated in the worst ways," she said.
LaRene said she continuing to investigate the case, but on the face of it, she says it looks as if the Web sites were negligent. If so, the family may pursue legal options.
Lawsuits on material sent over the Internet is new legal territory, and few cases have made it to judgment. But LaRene says she is determined to try to get Lovell's case heard.
"In this country, America, where there's a wrong, there's a remedy," LaRene said. "If the remedy doesn't exist in law now, it will be created because in this country, we find remedies for wrong."
--zeSto--
07-30-2003, 06:55 PM
^
gimmie an 'F'
gimmie an 'A'
gimmie an 'R'
and what's next ???
Poop Man Bob
07-30-2003, 07:03 PM
T.
--zeSto--
07-30-2003, 07:07 PM
It was supposed to be a K for Kilo...
but Fart seems to work for you.
[img]http://www.fatcap.co.uk/host/files/poopsmith.gif'> approved!
king kong
08-10-2003, 01:45 AM
WERD IS KOBE WAS GETTING A TOUR OF THE ROOM, AND THEN THEY STARTED MESSING WITH EACH OTHER SOFTCORE SHIT, THEN SHE FELT SHE SHOULD LEAVE AND KOBE STOOD IN FRONT OF THE DOOR AND BLOCKED HER FROM LEAVING AND BEGAN THE ASSAULT WITH LITTLE FENDING OFF FROM THE VICTIM, WERD ALL IS THAT HE PERFORMED ANAL SEX AND THERE WAS "VAGINAL BROOZES" AFTER IT WAS OVER SHE RAN OUT SHOCKED, CRYING, AND MAD AND DID SOMETHING THAT IS SURE TO CONVICT KOBE BWAS HER TELLING WHAT HAPPENED RIGHT AFTER SHE LEFT THE ROOMM TOY A PERSON THEY ARE CALLING THE "STAR WITNESS"...OFF A RELIABLE NEWS RADIO SHOW
king kong
08-10-2003, 01:45 AM
THE MAN IS FUCKED...
Daze One Million
08-10-2003, 02:07 AM
anal fucked
mr_president
08-10-2003, 02:18 AM
:lol:
white girls = black man's devil.
hahahaha
:lol:
Swiffer Jet
08-10-2003, 02:33 AM
the girl tried to commit suicide twice.
mr_president
08-10-2003, 02:41 AM
Originally posted by Swiffer Jet
the girl tried to commit suicide twice.
gotta hate mother fuckers who cant kill themselves... man that pisses me off...
:heated: :mad2:
king kong
08-10-2003, 07:49 PM
come on 2 times..its not that hard
AlwaysBombin
08-10-2003, 08:23 PM
Im sorry but I dont believe for a half a second that Kobe, a rich, famous, black man whos most likely hung like a horse, has to force himself on any small town white girl working at a hotel...I just wanna know why he would even want the bitch...Have you see his wife? o.O
Its like when Hugh Grant cheated on Elizabeth Hurley wit the black hooker...fuckin celebrities....
GO LAKERS
Milton
08-10-2003, 08:34 PM
I don't think we can judge what really happened until we hear all of the evidence from both sides. At first it just seems like she wants money or attention, like the woman who said Tupac raped her. And my guess is that after the criminal trial is over there will be a civil trial. The thing that bothers me is why would Kobe HAVE to rape her, women come on to athletes all the time, why wouldn't he just find a willing participant. On the other hand, if she says that they were messing with each other then she said stop and he wouldn't, that seems reasonable to me. Every man has been in the position where a woman doesn't want sex, and it pisses you off, add to that how many women come on to professional athletes and think about how pissed off Kobe would be if some average looking girl from the middle of nowhere is telling him no. At the same time if the talk of her braging at a party is true, it's all over for her. Nobody can make a decision before all the facts are laid out, and in cases of rape the only two people who know what really happened are the accused and the accuser. I hope for both of them that it's not true.
On a side note, it's pretty cruel to post her information on the internet.
That will be all...
mr_president
08-10-2003, 08:50 PM
its funny to even imagine kobe raping a girl... he always seemed so laid back and care free type...
who knew he was a violent person when it came to sex... hahaha jk...
:lol:
imported_dowmagik
08-10-2003, 10:31 PM
none of you know kobe or that bitch. who knows what the fuck happened...
StIdesChurch
08-11-2003, 03:01 AM
Originally posted by Milton
I don't think we can judge what really happened until we hear all of the evidence from both sides.
word.
from what ive heard about her side of the story supposedly they started fooling around but at some point she decided she wanted to stop and he didnt.
it seems really far fetched that Kobe would ever do something like that, but who knows. the defense seems to have some pretty solid evidence, but rich people never get locked up anyway.
by the way, fuck the lakers.
mr_president
08-11-2003, 03:07 AM
he's BLACK
AKA GUILTY!!!!
:lol:
StIdesChurch
08-11-2003, 03:27 AM
^^^^ just like OJ eh?
last i heard the prosecution had raised several hundred thousand dollars for their case, thats not shit compared to what kobe is going to be throwing into this.
Brownbread?
09-02-2003, 08:38 AM
there needs to be a new way on how the authorities handle rape cases.i cant say whats what in Kobe's case but a similiar situation happened to a friend of mine. Some ugly chick was trying to get with him but he didn't like her so hercursed her out on the phone and days later he was arrested. The girl said he and some friends had raped her at night on a busy street . As soon as the police heard her story they ran up in his house, roughed him up and he was in jail the very next day. No evidence or anything just her word alone (and the fact that he really looks like a crimnal). It didn't matter that her whole story was fucking bogus and had more holes in it than mofo. Dude was left in jail for a good minute until his folks could post bail for him. His folks ended up in debt while fighting the case and had to move to a slumy part of the city. The cops sided with the girl and kept fucking with the case and coaching the her on what to do and say. They were hoping that my friend would make a deal with them for a lesser sentence becase of how slow the case was moving. The cops knew that they would get sued if my friend won the case because they fucked up on some procedures while arresting him plus they conducted a shady interrogation. Because of all the bullshit and delays the case was taken to a higher court and after about a year and a half my friend was found guilty and is now facing 25 years. He was suppose to face 35 but the judge said he would be "generous" and give him 25. The funny thing about the whole case is there was no evidence at all no blood, no semen, no hair, nothing. After almost 2 years of investigation all the prosecutors had was the word of the girl and that was good enough to get him convicted. That just shows how screwd up the sysytem can be.
Brownbread?
09-02-2003, 08:38 AM
there needs to be a new way on how the authorities handle rape cases.i cant say whats what in Kobe's case but a similiar situation happened to a friend of mine. Some ugly chick was trying to get with him but he didn't like her so he cursed her out on the phone and days later he was arrested. The girl said he and some friends had raped her at night on a busy street . As soon as the police heard her story they ran up in his house, roughed him up and he was in jail the very next day. No evidence or anything just her word alone (and the fact that he realy really looks like a crimnal). It didn't matter that her whole story was fucking bogus and had more holes in it than mofo. Dude was left in jail for a good minute until his folks could post bail for him. His folks ended up in debt while fighting the case and had to move to a slumy part of the city. The cops sided with the girl and kept fucking with the case and coaching the her on what to do and say. They were hoping that my friend would make a deal with them for a lesser sentence becase of how slow the case was moving. The cops knew that they would get sued if my friend won the case because they fucked up on some procedures while arresting him plus they conducted a shady interrogation. Because of all the bullshit and delays the case was taken to a higher court and after about a year and a half my friend was found guilty and is now facing 25 years. He was suppose to face 35 but the judge said he would be "generous" and give him 25. The funny thing about the whole case is there was no evidence at all no blood, no semen, no hair, nothing. After almost 2 years of investigation all the prosecutors had was the word of the girl and that was good enough to get him convicted. That just shows how screwd up the sysytem can be.
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