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SkyFlax
09-24-2003, 01:54 PM
these are some of the completed walls, the other ones weren't finished at the time, if anyone got flicks of this event post them. peace

[img]http://www.digital-dose.net/superlab/1134.jpg'>
goal just

[img]http://www.digital-dose.net/superlab/acetmos.jpg'>
acet

[img]http://www.digital-dose.net/superlab/celfmos.jpg'>
celf

[img]http://www.digital-dose.net/superlab/hicrew.jpg'>
hi crew ct

[img]http://www.digital-dose.net/superlab/temomos.jpg'>
themo

[img]http://www.digital-dose.net/superlab/tenzmos.jpg'>
tenz

[img]http://www.digital-dose.net/superlab/wall2.jpg'>

[img]http://www.digital-dose.net/superlab/td4.jpg'>
td4 - bisc - esen - nsyt - meres - leia

aowltpaowltp
09-24-2003, 02:43 PM
were there any oldschool cats from ny there ?

ASTISM
09-24-2003, 03:25 PM
yes there were...

Al Green
09-24-2003, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by aowltpaowltp
were there any oldschool cats from ny there ?

ASt was there and he shaves twice a day.. sometimes thrice.


digging the just wf tfo

and the dan.

bump for old people who dont forget where their cans are at.

reptar
09-24-2003, 03:34 PM
bump 4 the def tenz peice

!@#$%^&*
09-24-2003, 05:44 PM
Wheres the rest of the TM7-DYM wall??

bigpoppa.k
09-24-2003, 05:49 PM
SM.

perve
09-24-2003, 06:14 PM
themo acet ast..exsquisit..philly and ct walls came out sweet

Vlad
09-24-2003, 07:30 PM
more flix would do wonders

AESOP ROCK
09-24-2003, 08:00 PM
THAT CELF IS FRESH...I DONT SEE HOW HE IS "BITING" EWOK OR NACE...................

ASTISM
09-24-2003, 08:34 PM
one of many

ASTISM
09-24-2003, 08:35 PM
aight

ASTISM
09-24-2003, 08:36 PM
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09-24-2003, 08:36 PM
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ASTISM
09-24-2003, 08:37 PM
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ASTISM
09-24-2003, 08:38 PM
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ASTISM
09-24-2003, 08:39 PM
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09-24-2003, 08:40 PM
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ASTISM
09-24-2003, 08:41 PM
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ASTISM
09-24-2003, 08:42 PM
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ASTISM
09-24-2003, 08:43 PM
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ASTISM
09-24-2003, 08:43 PM
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BAMBOOZLED
09-24-2003, 09:11 PM
+

2timeloser
09-24-2003, 09:12 PM
that jd throwup on the wall is the freshest thing in this thread along side of muse and cope, kids that dont get up cant hang. tm7 and dym shit is just recycled garbage, just my opinion here i know someone will hate on me now..

cnd
09-24-2003, 11:21 PM
"I heard" certain officers from an un-named police task force ruined the fun for many people..

whiskybar
09-25-2003, 12:19 AM
nobody ruined my fun.

DirtySanchez
09-25-2003, 12:26 AM
Originally posted by gustoizm
"I heard" certain officers from an un-named police task force ruined the fun for many people..

i hope not.

DirtySanchez
09-25-2003, 12:28 AM
Originally posted by ASTISM
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mode 1 or mode 3?? im kinda out the loop these days, i dunno.

the_gooch
09-25-2003, 03:36 AM
Originally posted by gustoizm
"I heard" certain officers from an un-named police task force ruined the fun for many people..


yeah i heard the same thing

spunyon
09-25-2003, 04:29 AM
ITS ALL ABOUT DAN1

-->Def$tar!
09-25-2003, 05:25 AM
Bump for Themo and Acet!

DirtySanchez
09-25-2003, 06:10 AM
Originally posted by AESOP ROCK
THAT CELF IS FRESH...I DONT SEE HOW HE IS "BITING" EWOK OR NACE...................


Your about a year late and a dollar short on tryin to win this argument.

!@#$%^&*
09-25-2003, 06:56 AM
Some people say shit just for attention.


Anyway, Big up Ast.

crave
09-25-2003, 09:34 AM
meeting of styles indeed.

imported_Europe
09-25-2003, 10:16 AM
Nice walls.
Good work AST, both the piece and the posting.

CLogz
09-25-2003, 11:21 AM
Originally posted by ASTISM
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This production is lookin ill!! anyone got the pics of the finshed thing??

SkyFlax
09-25-2003, 11:54 AM
Originally posted by the_gooch
yeah i heard the same thing

nah man nothing like that happened. or maybe it did but, half way through the day on saturday the owner of one of the buildings was running around with 3 sqaud cars frantic like, guys whats going on here, guys what are you doing. then after cern talked to them there was really any cops around.

Woodsavers
09-25-2003, 03:29 PM
Most of those pieces sucked and I think that the older writers are
losing their spice do to the over welming dick sucking toys that sweat
them. Times have changed pick up the pace guys because I'd rather look
at my old flicks when those same style were considered dope because they
were new. Once you become a rock star does that mean your don't have to progress
any more. New York once was a leader and the top in the world. Get over the
fame end of it and back into the importance of style.

Big ups to the Style monsters for keeping the true meaning alive.
It's all about the letters "STYLE" if you don't have it get it!
if you can't get it quit!

"You suck untill further notice..." ---Espo

One of my favorite line from that guy.

CLogz
09-25-2003, 03:44 PM
Originally posted by Woodsavers
Most of those pieces sucked and I think that the older writers are
losing their spice do to the over welming dick sucking toys that sweat
them. Times have changed pick up the pace guys because I'd rather look
at my old flicks when those same style were considered dope because they
were new. Once you become a rock star does that mean your don't have to progress
any more. New York once was a leader and the top in the world. Get over the
fame end of it and back into the importance of style.

Big ups to the Style monsters for keeping the true meaning alive.
It's all about the letters "STYLE" if you don't have it get it!
if you can't get it quit!

"You suck untill further notice..." ---Espo

One of my favorite line from that guy.

No disrespect to you buddy, but what makes you think u can make a comment like that. Its not the writers that have lost the meaning of true graff, but its the society in which we live that has lead to graff lossing its true heart... look at all this internet shit. big companies using graff to appeal to kids.. whatever to meeting up with homies at the writersbench and sharing ya flicks there..

LEADONE
09-25-2003, 04:05 PM
Originally posted by ASTISM
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i would be embarrassed if i spelled the name of my web site wrong when i was trying to promote it.[img]http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/attachment.php?s=&postid=1237249'>

Woodsavers
09-25-2003, 04:08 PM
The internet is just a big bench for writers to show their flicks.
you can gather up your garbage and sit on a train plat form to
show it around. Or email it or post it here. Who cares. If it sucks
it's the artists' fault not society. We are the society and the influence.
I've done may corporate graff jobs and never water down pure style
after all that is what it is they are paying you for in the first place and
what got us this far after all these years of doing it. So I think your comment
needs to be re thought. No disrespect. just stating they the artist are
responsible for for what goes on every where else. if we water it down
or lack in trueness the up and comers have no better refference to learn
from.so their cheap attempt at try'n to burn can only be twice as wack as the piece
they are learning from. Unfortunately true style masters are so wrapped up
in their ego and glorifiying them selves they don't take the time to school these
"TOYS" to know any better. So they watch the cope video and try to imitate
what goes on in there. So where only this long road of crud that we travel
and wack writer got props and steered the follwers a stray.

I believe in the near future their will be a new generation of writers
that will keep traditional style alive and push it to new inovative levels.
If your letters aren't there you are basically just making and aerosol art
mess that sickens us all. I'd much rather see a bunch of clean simples
with style then a wild colorfull mess.

rick flair
09-25-2003, 04:34 PM
on that wall that yes2 and ivory are on how can you tell the difference between any one else and them. that was the jock my style wall.

first place goes to themo and acet for the "JOCK MY STYLE AWARD"

THIS JAM HAD SOME PRETTY GOOD PIECES BUT IT JUST WASN'T PUT TOGETHER WELL...
:confused: :confused: :o :lol: :eek: :o :( :rolleyes:

Taboo TM7
09-25-2003, 07:31 PM
Originally posted by 2timeloser
that jd throwup on the wall is the freshest thing in this thread along side of muse and cope, kids that dont get up cant hang. tm7 and dym shit is just recycled garbage, just my opinion here i know someone will hate on me now..

AMAZING sounds like some ones got a mouth full of wallNUTS.... cope and muse are KINGS of running their shit. i aint "hating on you" but seems like u got a special place in your heart for cope, JD and muse to mention them out of ALLLL the cats there, and to single out tm7 and dym to talk crap about. there had to be at least 80 writers there.... someone's got a personal issue here

cetacean
09-25-2003, 07:34 PM
lemme see a better pic of the td4 wall, esp the meres piece

peter N0rth
09-25-2003, 07:35 PM
Originally posted by ASTISM
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IS THAT GES?????IF SO MAN SHOW THE HOLE FLICK.WHAT YOU TRIPPIN ONFA?

NEO DOOM
09-25-2003, 08:17 PM
Originally posted by peter N0rth
IS THAT GES?????IF SO MAN SHOW THE HOLE FLICK.WHAT YOU TRIPPIN ONFA?
Eye 2nd that.

2timeloser
09-25-2003, 09:41 PM
Originally posted by 2muchtime
AMAZING sounds like some ones got a mouth full of wallNUTS.... cope and muse are KINGS of running their shit. i aint "hating on you" but seems like u got a special place in your heart for cope, JD and muse to mention them out of ALLLL the cats there, and to single out tm7 and dym to talk crap about. there had to be at least 80 writers there.... someone's got a personal issue here


BINGO!! WINNER!!!


yes it is a personal opinion like i said before, cope is more graffiti then tenz or whoever will ever be, you say cope runs his shit? do you anything about style? thats his style, thats what you can expect everytime, i dig that, i dig bombers, i dig the essence of grafiti, not some internet based vamp tool for styles like tm7 seem to rep, got me? hope so.

richard kyel
09-25-2003, 10:04 PM
Originally posted by peter N0rth
IS THAT GES?????IF SO MAN SHOW THE HOLE FLICK.WHAT YOU TRIPPIN ONFA?

its funny im sure thats a ges piece but the dude dont look like ges. people never look the same when caught on film. weird shit.... but anywho show the ges

peter N0rth
09-25-2003, 11:06 PM
thats a show thing man.^^^^^when i met ges he was black

CrewJones
09-26-2003, 12:27 AM
Where are the flix of the finished production with the european cats on it? Is the wall with the cope and muse joint in the same production? Im assuming the wall is done, so post up if you have that shit...........

CrewJones
09-26-2003, 02:23 AM
My theory on writers and their pieces, is to view the piece without reading the name... what I mean, is would I be going crazy over a cope piece if it was by some new guy, and it didnt say cope? Or any other person with a rep.... My point is, is the style, technique, evcecution, etc. banging regardless of who did it? or do we all just look at pieces through our "fame glasses", and if youre known, its automatically hot... bottom line, Writers with no rep can burn those who are known sometimes... Stop looking at WHO it is, and start looking at WHAT it is...

2timeloser
09-26-2003, 02:59 AM
Originally posted by Unicron
im gonna break it down how your a dick rider... the JD throwy is cool and all, i like his throws but your saying a legal fillin is better then the styles flexed by tm7? i think 2muchtime said you have a personal issue not a personal opinion... you the one hating and talking shit just to get this attention... cope being more graffiti then anyone will ever be? yo i know cope did his thing for years, but cope dont realy write any more and when he does come out you know he dont care.. he just shows up does his same outline and fill he aways does and breaks out.... get off the dick.... that tm7 dym wall was the illest wall there for real.... you need to learn about STYLE AND LETTERS...and get off the magazine dick.... your a toy... word



if your gonna quote me atleast dont misrepresent anything . i believe i said cope is more graffiti then tenz or whoever " his other names he writes with" ever be. copeesh jerckoff? riding dick? if anyone here is riding cock its you, you love styleish flowers with pretty pink polka dots with a cute baby blue. well homo thats good for you i'm not down with that noise, thats all i'm saying so dont make this some type of an issue. so please you homosexual stop riding me already cant a brotha make any comments? i'm more up then your older brother.

reptar
09-26-2003, 03:38 AM
bump 4 tenz$$

illwill
09-26-2003, 03:57 AM
Originally posted by CrewJones
My theory on writers and their pieces, is to view the piece without reading the name... what I mean, is would I be going crazy over a cope piece if it was by some new guy, and it didnt say cope? Or any other person with a rep.... My point is, is the style, technique, evcecution, etc. banging regardless of who did it? or do we all just look at pieces through our "fame glasses", and if youre known, its automatically hot... bottom line, Writers with no rep can burn those who are known sometimes... Stop looking at WHO it is, and start looking at WHAT it is...

that is a good approach, i agree

The BLACK Y
09-26-2003, 04:22 AM
so much love in here as usual,,we got to have these "meeting of style " events more often

Pharaoh145th
09-26-2003, 04:38 AM
basically...

Phase 2 or Stay High or Tracy 168 could come to a wall, write their name in dog shit and guess what...?

You may not have to like it, but you better shut the fuck up and RESPECT it.

It is ONLY because of what older writers did 20 and 30 years ago, that all you new pseudo writers of today are even in the game, if you could consider that there is even a graff game left today.

Sure, most of those pieces did suck, but who the fuck is ya'll to come on here posting your irrelevant opinion, from the comfort of you own living room, ANONYMOUSLY at that.

Thats some real pussy shit.

Why didn't any of you go up to cope or anyone else in person, to inform them of their boring outline, or lack of enthusiasm?

Oh, yeah cuz you didn't have the Balls.

Anyway, this shit don't surprise me out of all the writers of today, under 25 yrs old, maybe 5% even have what it takes to amount to what it took to be even the wors toy 20 years ago.


Chew on that..

And don't even come at me, unless you are man enough to leave your name, punks.

Kool Dash One.. FCKing
The Cool 5ive

johnny
09-26-2003, 04:52 AM
Originally posted by Unicron
yo i cant believe the stupidity of so many fuckin writers.... "rickflair" you cant tell the difference between yes2 ivory and other peoples shit???? jock my style wall??? you sound like someone who who doesnt write... you cant read graffiti or undersstand what makes yes2s shit look like his shit? no one on that walls shit looks the same.... and if it does to you then you obviously dont understand style... for real it amazes me the comments that come out of some peoples mouths.. or keyboards i guess.... are you gonna tell me that the themo piece and the ivory piece look the same? "2timeloser" dont know about style either... cope and muse??? get real kid that cope is really one of the worst cope joints i seen him do in years...lookslike his shit from 92.... and muse? i think anyone who knows anything about style knows that muse is garbage.... he was better when he was art fagging it with free5 a few years ago......and to call tm7 dym shit recycled garbage??? tm7 nearly created that style.... that was hands down the illest wall there... they aint need no european cats to paint them a pretty back ground or help them with their pieces... cause alot of that did go down... i chilled at that big wall with the cope and muse shit for awhile and cats are str8 up hardly even doin their own shit anymore....all im sayin is people need to shut the fuck up and learn about style

your response is shit without flossing the creds. ante up or stay with that "artnerd i'm a revolutionary" bit til you get punched.

Taboo TM7
09-26-2003, 07:11 AM
Originally posted by Pharaoh145th

Sure, most of those pieces did suck, but who the fuck is ya'll to come on here posting your irrelevant opinion, from the comfort of you own living room, ANONYMOUSLY at that.
Thats some real pussy shit.
Why didn't any of you go up to cope or anyone else in person, to inform them of their boring outline, or lack of enthusiasm?
Kool Dash One.. FCKing
The Cool 5ive

u got to respect that.... just wondering.... i know no one is gonna drop names on who they are.... but did you paint at the meeting of style event ? 2timeloser........ rick flair?

DAZL ONES
09-26-2003, 12:42 PM
Originally posted by ASTISM
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:eek: :eek:

zen
09-26-2003, 12:51 PM
My name is Ryan. I am from Australia.

rick flair
09-26-2003, 03:27 PM
hey unicorn,

if you can't see that the majority of the dude on that wall got their style from the same 1 or 2 people you are fucking blind as a bat.

even if they didn't take their style from a modern ivory or yes piece, it's easy to see that they looked at an earlier piece that those dudes done.

it's 2003, of course dudes are gonna grab influences from other people, since this shit started pretty much everythings been done. but when people take some elses piece and then change the letters to look like their letters thats the faggy shit i'm talkin bout.

i bet your on some one jock thats why you got so offended by this.

i do agree with you on that cope shit, that fool came at the end of the night, rocked a 5 min simple and bounced & let the germans finish the rest of the wall.

but on the real you don't know nothing about this here, i got styles for days. :lol:

Hustleman
09-26-2003, 03:30 PM
Originally posted by 2timeloser
BINGO!! WINNER!!!


yes it is a personal opinion like i said before, cope is more graffiti then tenz or whoever will ever be, you say cope runs his shit? do you anything about style? thats his style, thats what you can expect everytime, i dig that, i dig bombers, i dig the essence of grafiti, not some internet based vamp tool for styles like tm7 seem to rep, got me? hope so.

true the tm7 style gets vamped and regurgitated poorly,by alot of people , however it is TM7 style,, they aint vamping theyre own shit ? ya dig... yall siskel & eberts of graffiti need to make your own moves and worry bout those moves, cause if you did you wouldnt give a shit about what the next man was doin........ dash hit the nail on the head,,im sure nobody stepped to cope the give him theyre oppinion on his style that day, cause i didnt here about nobody gettin smacked , cope is cope , take him 4 what he is in this shit and respect that....

!@#$%^&*
09-26-2003, 07:14 PM
Crews like TM7 were early influences on the stuff I do because that was the style I liked. So yea my shit does have that infuence to it and is based upon that classic NYC wild style lettering. However my shit doesnt look like a Yes2 or a Roler piece. If you cant determine the difference between each individuals pieces besides the spelling then its you who doesnt understand style. If Webone did a Ces piece I would be able to tell it was done by Web. If you cant then oh well too bad for you. People just talk way too much shit about people who are actually painting and doing THEIR thing. I bet rickflair and the rest of these kids talking all this crap dont do much besides browse 12oz looking for the next big graffiti dilemma to set straight. All this talk about biting styles, what original ground breaking styles did you invent?


HOST18

rick flair
09-26-2003, 07:56 PM
Originally posted by 666
Crews like TM7 were early influences on the stuff I do because that was the style I liked. So yea my shit does have that infuence to it and is based upon that classic NYC wild style lettering. However my shit doesnt look like a Yes2 or a Roler piece. If you cant determine the difference between each individuals pieces besides the spelling then its you who doesnt understand style. If Webone did a Ces piece I would be able to tell it was done by Web. If you cant then oh well too bad for you. People just talk way too much shit about people who are actually painting and doing THEIR thing. I bet rickflair and the rest of these kids talking all this crap dont do much besides browse 12oz looking for the next big graffiti dilemma to set straight. All this talk about biting styles, what original ground breaking styles did you invent?


HOST18



dude,

i was just stating an opinion about the jam this past weekend.
and unicorn starts talking slick.

if you notice from the number of post next to my name, i'm rarely on here on "12oz looking for the next big graffiti dilemma to set straight."

the only reason i have been posting i cause i'm injured with nothing else to do all day.

other wise i would be out painting.

like i said people have to get their influences from some where, but change it up alil'
be your own writer.
don't get so mad over someones opinion.why does any thing i say matter to you. i swear, if i were not injured you wouldn't have even seen a second reply out of me...

BUT I'M BORED, AT HOME,BEATIN' OFFTO THE TM7 WALL.

HAHA
LOOSEN UPP HERBS
THIS AINT THE RAISE FOR SPACE
that shit's already been accomplished. :lol: :lol:

ASTISM
09-26-2003, 07:58 PM
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-THE TRUTH-
09-26-2003, 08:49 PM
is there any better shots of the finished production walls? hi crew wall , 203 wall, or the wall with pose,ges,and cope on it???

eddieguns
09-26-2003, 09:38 PM
Couple things..............That Stan One piece is fresh as hell. Dan1 came correct again. And Yes2 absolutely killed it. Thats all.............

2timeloser
09-26-2003, 10:12 PM
Originally posted by 666
Crews like TM7 were early influences on the stuff I do because that was the style I liked. So yea my shit does have that infuence to it and is based upon that classic NYC wild style lettering. However my shit doesnt look like a Yes2 or a Roler piece. If you cant determine the difference between each individuals pieces besides the spelling then its you who doesnt understand style. If Webone did a Ces piece I would be able to tell it was done by Web. If you cant then oh well too bad for you. People just talk way too much shit about people who are actually painting and doing THEIR thing. I bet rickflair and the rest of these kids talking all this crap dont do much besides browse 12oz looking for the next big graffiti dilemma to set straight. All this talk about biting styles, what original ground breaking styles did you invent?


HOST18


your just a real Gerhard Kraus of graffiti huh? thats real good that you can differentiate styles of graff. your just a classic case internet geek wrote since about 1990 till now but recently just did anything, before this you where studying graffiti on the internet while kids like me introduced bombing to your area. you study the styles it shows in your work, i never actually put you stuff down i just say it how i see it, you cant respect. its ok.


dropping names on here is just plain silly. calm down.

gfreshsushi
09-26-2003, 10:51 PM
did anyone else notice the cleverest fucking thing ever said?

Johnny-"ante up or stay with that 'artnerd i'm a revolutionary' bit til you get punched."

that is a line i can sympathize all too well with. art school means you are not hard. period. no grey area whatsoever. if you don't believe me, go listen to some anal cunt and then we'll chat.

Thomas Crown
09-26-2003, 11:22 PM
lazoo and pwoz killed shit w/ the sick characters...post that shit up...

Thomas Crown
09-26-2003, 11:25 PM
anyone get the flick of cope ragging his piece right after he finished it??? theres a flick of the finished piece a page back btw. dem and muse...

Mr. Sanchez
09-29-2003, 07:27 PM
when was this event held

rick flair
10-02-2003, 01:31 PM
Originally posted by Mr. Sanchez
when was this event held


this shit was held 8/25-27

these pieces are getting old real fast
fools need to start experimenting

i see the same sketch for every wall:o :o :( :(

CharlesMingus
10-03-2003, 01:37 PM
some more from that event

CharlesMingus
10-03-2003, 01:49 PM
o

CharlesMingus
10-03-2003, 01:50 PM
oo

CharlesMingus
10-03-2003, 01:51 PM
not the best connecting shots
but you get the idea...

Al Green
10-03-2003, 02:04 PM
the weird hemaphrodite midget elvis is the thing nightmares is made of.

scaaary..

the stars make it look like some converse react juice ad from the early 90's


-albert greenhope.

cnd
10-03-2003, 03:59 PM
those hoes got some fat asses. le france' know how to paint...

rick flair
10-03-2003, 07:50 PM
Originally posted by gustoizm
those hoes got some fat asses. le france' know how to paint...


yeah those characters are banging'

america step your game upp!!

were gettin' beat by the europeans!!!!

CrewJones
10-03-2003, 09:55 PM
"getting" beat??? man, america lost the graff battle to most of Europe long ago...

Pharaoh145th
10-03-2003, 10:23 PM
When New York graff was real, back in the 70's and 80's, writing graff wasn't even an option for the rest of the planet.

The only battle left is an illusion in the minds of outsiders who feel they have something to prove to the world.

Europe and any other city, state, Island have contributed NOTHING to graff that wasnt already done in NYC.

Photo realism - Sorry Lee was doing it in NY LONG before Los Angeles and Europe.

3D Style - SORRY, Erni (PAZE) was doing it in the early 90's, Mare was doing it in the late 80's on the computer, Lee was doing it in 85, Seen TC5 was doing it in 81 and Pistol and Flint did it in the early 70's.

Hmm, what else.. Well sinse it was those characters are what sparked this...

Characters - Sorry New York did it again, oh, about 30 yrs ago.

Not to mention that it was DOZE TC5 who introduced characters to the rest of the world back in 83 on the Wild Style Tour and then the Beat Street tour and all the rest of the Rock Steady tours. Juat ask Mode2 or Bando


Europe aint got shit on NYC. Them characters were nice, a nice illustration.
Are they Graff? NOY in my opinion, could they have painted that next to their piece in a train tunnel? Probably not. Would it have even looked right on a train? HELL NO.

look at that wall again, and ask yourself, do any of them pieces look good?
HELL NO.

So hey let's all do shitty pieces, but cover them up with blends and shines and do a relaistic character. Ooooooh, now were dope Writers.

Get the fuck outta here. NONE of these cats got shit on NY, well maybe they do have something on all you Younger kids who are FOLLOWING their way, but NOT on any cat out here who still remembers what REAL GRAFF looks like, and still reps correctly.


I know this will stir up a bunch of you faggoty trucker hat white boys, who love art and aspire to suck daim and loomits dicks.

I probably won't be back on here for a while, but it will be fun to see how GUSTO responds to the suckers that will respond to me. Sinse he is probably the only one on here that can do a fuckin piece with style, and will turn out to be a real NY writer.


Peace and FUCK YOU

Kool Dash One
Fame City
TC5ive

eddieguns
10-03-2003, 10:36 PM
That's why I like Dash.......cause he tells it like it is. Anyway, those euros can paint nice things.........but where's the style at? Where's the rawness? That's whats always been missing from the shit they do. I dunno..........I'd rather see a drippy ink tag on the inside of a 3 train than a realistic character, But thats just me.

cnd
10-04-2003, 01:24 AM
Originally posted by CrewJones
"getting" beat??? man, america lost the graff battle to most of Europe long ago...

crewjones from the midwest.. you have no clue what you are talking about and just got schooled by Dash. sit back, read what he wrote, and reflect on your stupidity.....

i would like to see a european crew battle a real new york crew, piece for piece, not even rock a character or a background... then we'd see who'd lose the battle...

CrewJones
10-04-2003, 02:53 AM
go to the post "flicks of pieces you like"... look through that, and you'll see that europe has got insane styles...
You wanna talk style for style? Yes, NY has some good writers... but honestly, most of the time its hit or miss, and when its miss, its waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off. Eurapean writers with Insane style...
Dare , swet, bates, smash, Mist, Scien, Can 2, wert, and on and on...

Europe has so many different styles, constantly progressing in different directions... constantly exploring, pushing boundaries, and redefining style... keeping a deep rooted foundation of letters and tradition, while progressing it. New york seems to be trapped in a traditionalist view that graffiti is supposed to look one certain way, and it should not step beyond its narrow boundaries for risk of being criticised by those who helped it get started. Progression is inevitable, and thats a good thing... As long as the roots are deep, it is good to explore, experiment, and redevelop styles... I know some would like to think that there is a certain blue print to the ultimate graffiti "look", but that just leads to stagnation. If anyone is afraid of change, then stay in your safe bubble, and keep doing the same styles year after year, decade after decade, with the same techniques, same fills, same designs. If treading water is your thing, kudos to you.... But dont get upset and call the rest of the world wack for trying to improve and progress with time...

-straight from the cornfields....

15MinsofFame
10-04-2003, 05:51 AM
yo crewjones when is the last time you've been to nyc?? you're waaaaaaaay off the mark in your assumption that nyc is stagnant, waaaaaay off fucker.



-get your ass out of the cornfields and come see for yourself.-

15MinsofFame
10-04-2003, 05:55 AM
---oh and by NYC I don't just mean Canal, I'm talking about all of NyC...Don't be that typical TOURIST. :)

the_gooch
10-04-2003, 06:18 AM
Originally posted by rick flair
yeah those characters are banging'

america step your game upp!!

were gettin' beat by the europeans!!!!


You’ve obviously never seen shit from Hex TGO (LA), or Slick (LA) and that’s back in the late 80’s early 90’s. What about Sub DF FX? Totem2? Ces or Per FX? Gaze DF (WAYYYYY ahead of his time), Cycle, Ewok .COM, YNN crew, TD4 crew, Katch (Hawaii). Greed or Waqs (A3), and this is just a handful! Europe is definitely rippin shit up, But NY will never be beat! Why look at any of it as competition? Everyone is mutually burning and feeding off one another any how.

SATANS IRISH HELPERS
10-04-2003, 04:04 PM
those characters are like diet mode 2.
mode 2 lite

CrewJones
10-04-2003, 04:12 PM
Im willing to bet that johhny cash/elvis hybrid character with awful facial proportion was done by an American... not to dis, I wouldnt even attempt it, just saying that one of the Europeans at that wall wouldve done a better job... If that wall was a battle, who would you say won, the home team or visitors? Im not exactly sure of some of those pieces, if they are americans i never heard of, or Euros, but I can make a guess by the style... And why did Cope move his piece???

ModelCitizen
10-04-2003, 05:04 PM
Originally posted by 2timeloser
tm7 ... is just recycled garbage

Is this kid joking?

kasmoney
10-04-2003, 05:48 PM
dint pose do them fat ass girls ??

siloette
10-05-2003, 12:39 AM
Bump for the Host and Ast peices..

Also thumbs up for the Lazoo characters. Dude has style..

2timeloser
10-05-2003, 01:13 PM
Originally posted by 2timeloser
tm7 ... is just recycled garbage
Originally posted by Ten Cents
Is this kid joking?

THis "kid" just had an opinion. no respect? or should i just like it because everyone thinks its cool? stop riding me.

Thomas Crown
10-05-2003, 10:35 PM
Originally posted by CrewJones
Im willing to bet that johhny cash/elvis hybrid character with awful facial proportion was done by an American... not to dis, I wouldnt even attempt it, just saying that one of the Europeans at that wall wouldve done a better job... If that wall was a battle, who would you say won, the home team or visitors? Im not exactly sure of some of those pieces, if they are americans i never heard of, or Euros, but I can make a guess by the style... And why did Cope move his piece???

actually it wasnt done by an american...just some foreign kid who wasnt supposed to paint on the wall in the first place...def. wasnt feeling that elvis character...and in my opinion...names cern and space did a good job on that wall...str8 bugged out styles...and peeta did some corkscrew vertical piece that was killer...

scot schmidt
10-06-2003, 01:47 AM
WHAT IS UP WITH SOME SPACE AND CERN FLICS? I HAVE BEEN HEARING NOTHING BUT GOOD THINGS ABOUT IT. POST EM IF YOU GOT EM.

imported_Vandalicous
10-13-2003, 08:50 PM
peanut chews....ghetto red hot!!!!

Zorifour
10-24-2003, 12:43 PM
Cope 2,Muse,Demer, Zori 4 (KD) , Cern (YMI), Porno Star Crew (España), Index, Noir ( Alemania), Per 1 y Pose 2 (FX) , T-Kid (TNB) , Ink 76,Sonic, Kongo,Pwoz, Lazoo (Mac Crew- Francia) ACB (Chile), Muck NY, Peeta ( Italia) and some more that i dont know their names sorry..! :confused:

[img]http://www.freestyleassoc.com/BACKPACKERSINC.COM2/GALLERY/2003/octubre/graf/MeettingofStylesNYC-2003.jpg'>

SkyFlax
10-24-2003, 12:51 PM
ha, how did the cope end up all the way on the otherside?

Zorifour
10-24-2003, 12:56 PM
He leaves his space for Mac Crew Characters, because that side of the wall has too many names toghether. The left side was a little bit more spaced.

SiempreUno
10-24-2003, 08:48 PM
bump for the robot and the big booty hoes.

sempr uzi

the_gooch
10-25-2003, 12:22 AM
Originally posted by Zorifour
Cope 2,Muse,Demer, Zori 4 (KD) , Cern (YMI), Porno Star Crew (España), Index, Noir ( Alemania), Per 1 y Pose 2 (FX) , T-Kid (TNB) , Ink 76,Sonic, Kongo,Pwoz, Lazoo (Mac Crew- Francia) ACB (Chile), Muck NY, Peeta ( Italia) and some more that i dont know their names sorry..! :confused:

[img]http://www.freestyleassoc.com/BACKPACKERSINC.COM2/GALLERY/2003/octubre/graf/MeettingofStylesNYC-2003.jpg'>


you forgot sek3 ymi abk

demswallnutz
10-25-2003, 01:00 AM
[ big ups to my girl zori 4 ..the queen of graff!
DEMEROCK...RSH..WALLNUTS..KD
WWW.DEEPINSIDETHEMIND.COM (http://WWW.DEEPINSIDETHEMIND.COM)

phem9
10-25-2003, 03:22 PM
zori - i LOVE yer stuff girl u rock!!!!

this here is another TRUE QUEEN!!!! MICKEY!!
[img]http://www.imagestation.com/picture/sraid85/pe6d070175baa86215a6565474465785c/fabd34d0.jpg'>
damn - image station shrunk it. if anyone has a bigger photo please post it. peace!

bonfire
10-25-2003, 05:15 PM
i would like to see the celf piece.. all i got was a red X

the_gooch
10-26-2003, 02:18 AM
i give celf a red X for everything!

fuckin juice head

655321
10-26-2003, 03:05 AM
the_gooch i give celf a red X for everything!

fuckin juice head

lololollolollolololololol,,,big up celf abk

the_gooch
10-26-2003, 04:39 PM
haha

Zorifour
11-02-2003, 06:42 AM
:p Thank you!! :) :lol: :yum:

Tikriminal
11-02-2003, 08:19 AM
Originally posted by Pharaoh145th
When New York graff was real, back in the 70's and 80's, writing graff wasn't even an option for the rest of the planet.

The only battle left is an illusion in the minds of outsiders who feel they have something to prove to the world.

Europe and any other city, state, Island have contributed NOTHING to graff that wasnt already done in NYC.

Photo realism - Sorry Lee was doing it in NY LONG before Los Angeles and Europe.

3D Style - SORRY, Erni (PAZE) was doing it in the early 90's, Mare was doing it in the late 80's on the computer, Lee was doing it in 85, Seen TC5 was doing it in 81 and Pistol and Flint did it in the early 70's.

Hmm, what else.. Well sinse it was those characters are what sparked this...

Characters - Sorry New York did it again, oh, about 30 yrs ago.

Not to mention that it was DOZE TC5 who introduced characters to the rest of the world back in 83 on the Wild Style Tour and then the Beat Street tour and all the rest of the Rock Steady tours. Juat ask Mode2 or Bando


Europe aint got shit on NYC. Them characters were nice, a nice illustration.
Are they Graff? NOY in my opinion, could they have painted that next to their piece in a train tunnel? Probably not. Would it have even looked right on a train? HELL NO.

look at that wall again, and ask yourself, do any of them pieces look good?
HELL NO.

So hey let's all do shitty pieces, but cover them up with blends and shines and do a relaistic character. Ooooooh, now were dope Writers.

Get the fuck outta here. NONE of these cats got shit on NY, well maybe they do have something on all you Younger kids who are FOLLOWING their way, but NOT on any cat out here who still remembers what REAL GRAFF looks like, and still reps correctly.


I know this will stir up a bunch of you faggoty trucker hat white boys, who love art and aspire to suck daim and loomits dicks.

I probably won't be back on here for a while, but it will be fun to see how GUSTO responds to the suckers that will respond to me. Sinse he is probably the only one on here that can do a fuckin piece with style, and will turn out to be a real NY writer.


Peace and FUCK YOU

Kool Dash One
Fame City
TC5ive


you are a dickhead.. why, if new york is so good, do you have the same static style that you bit off everyone else.. theres shit in europe you couldnt even dream of while you jack off in your crack induced dreamworld.. people like you are the reason that america is so fucked up. who cares who started it.. they all bit the guy who invented the english language who... i believe was a european.. in fact, without europe you wouldnt even be in america so shut the fuck up if you want to be like that.

SkyFlax
11-12-2003, 02:15 AM
I heard that Vandal Sqaud watched this crew finish their production. Then bagged them all when they finished cuz they weren't supposed to paint the wall. Is that true?

flixster
11-12-2003, 06:42 AM
Zori mandame fotos de la isla... Y consigue unas paredes en la isla para el ano que vienes...
Deja nos saber cuando vienes de nuevo para pintar....
Manda las fotos por el website....
Fue un placer en conoserte...........
Been3
www.deepinsidethemind.com (http://www.deepinsidethemind.com)

STYLEISKING
11-12-2003, 04:23 PM
quik rtw quote from on the run 1991 new york special issue!

what do you think of european graffiti?

ive seen some amazing pieces and styles
develop here in the past few years.there are
several writers whose style i admire.i look at
the movement on trains and walls like rock n roll,
althrough the beatles,rolling stones,bob dylan etc
were pioneers,rock n roll is still going strong nearly
30 years later,however theres no substitute for the
original masters who have laid the foundation for such
creatiity today,graffiti on trains is a new york thing ya know!!!

Ethreadzny2
11-12-2003, 05:09 PM
Being the sick pervert that I am. I tried to grab a glimpse of the girl getting her photo topless in front of the dan & sew pieces. everytime we crept by in the ride, the girl closed her blouse.damnit, if you are going to give a show, give one/

ExtraUnherda
01-01-2004, 04:04 AM
Originally posted by rick flair
on that wall that yes2 and ivory are on how can you tell the difference between any one else and them. that was the jock my style wall.

first place goes to themo and acet for the "JOCK MY STYLE AWARD"

THIS JAM HAD SOME PRETTY GOOD PIECES BUT IT JUST WASN'T PUT TOGETHER WELL...
:confused: :confused: :o :lol: :eek: :o :( :rolleyes:


thats funny you should say that online i remember you shakin my hand last summer when i saw you....... its all good i aint gonna call you out you and i know whats good.

the_gooch
01-01-2004, 04:08 AM
Originally posted by Ethreadzny2
Being the sick pervert that I am. I tried to grab a glimpse of the girl getting her photo topless in front of the dan & sew pieces. everytime we crept by in the ride, the girl closed her blouse.damnit, if you are going to give a show, give one/



:lol: :lol: :lol:

harlemworld
02-05-2004, 10:05 AM
new jacks and out of towners pay attention once again dash just about sums it up,

and no doubt that yes2 piece was definitely not his best but that nigga will fuckin roast about 99% of the cats on this board

Philth215
02-07-2004, 04:44 AM
sew dan pose 2 cope 2 dope

renave
07-17-2007, 03:45 PM
http://i40.photobucket.com/albums/e250/iod2dx/AuctionFlyer21KET-1.jpg

sleptembers
07-17-2007, 06:43 PM
jeeez i guess it wasnt the meeting of cameras..:)

WILLSEE
02-20-2008, 05:28 PM
no pics?