jessica lynch is a fucking cunt

[taper]

after hearing all this shit about this stupid little whore i figure i have to vent about her dumbass. from my understanding didnt she get into some wreck when her little convoy got ambushed. now she gets hurt. gets taken to a hospital over there by the enemy. they go out of there way to keep her alive. risk there life to get her medicine and then try to return her to the americans. somehow when the little ungrateful cunt gets her sorry pale ass "resuced" she comes up with this eloborate ass story that couldnt be further from the truth. all of a sudden americas sweet heart is all over the tv crying like a little baby. lying to everyone. then when they know shes lying continues to write a book and has a fucking made for tv movie about her. then to top it off she "doesnt have time" to talk to the man responsible for saving her life cause she is busy working on her book. if i was that guy i would personally punch the hick girl in the face. i know this thread sounds petty and stupid but i just hate the fact of what this girl is doing. now think about it. if it was a 35 year old guy they would just be like they resuced him. no big deal. but when this little girl who should have known going into the army that this shit happens gets "caprured" she has to make it a big fucking deal and lie to the very people that saved her. i just dont understand this. can someone explain the reasoning behind this to me? because i just think the girls still a virgin and wants some play so shes trying to make people feel bad for her. fuckin cunt

[Dick Quickwood]

i hear you... last night there was a choice between a movie about that, and one about the mormon girl that got kidnapped.

[--zeSto--]

Originally posted by taper
gets her sorry pale ass "resuced"...

she gets what?

but come on now man,
Do YOU know her? Do you know anyone that knows her?
I feel bad for her because it seemed to me like the media
tried to blow her up as something she wasn't just because
they needed the story. That kind of loss of provacy is never
good for someone. Plus I read that she got seriously mistreated
(raped actually) when she was 'in the shit'.

no one here on 12oz (with the possible exception of Kabar)
knows enough about the subject to speak on it. Seriously.

[--zeSto--]

an article http://electroniciraq.net/news/1194.shtml

This second Jessica Lynch, whose interview with Diane Sawyer will air tomorrow night, is upset with the Pentagon for manufacturing the first Jessica Lynch, the Jessica Lynch who distracted Americans, for a little while at least, from the mounting American casualties that have stacked up during the U.S. occupation of Iraq.

the media is what you should be mad at.
But like Chris Rock says...

I'm not looking over my shoulder at the ATM because I'm scared of the 'Media'.

[japillahan]

they were both so touching, im so pruod to be an american(even tho i havent been up there in several years)

[taper]

yea i hear you... to a point. i mean since when did the media make her sit down and write a book on her life? or make her sell her story to make a tv show? its partly the media. i mean when all that shit happend to the pow's in vietnam there was never a made for tv movie on it to that extent. i mean take the quecreek miners story. that was a miracle what happened there. some soldier gets resuced and now its the first time it happend?? get real. and she sure as fuck didnt say shit when they blew it out of preportion. she had alot to do with it too. either way when my uncle was held captive in korea and came home no one made a fucking movie about him nor did he say untrue things and sit down and write a book. this whole thing is one big joke to me. its so rediclous.

[--zeSto--]

It seems to me that the new 'American Dream' is to get your 15 minutes of fame.
She got railroaded into a brief bit of fame because the US needed some
'good news' from the war. You really cant blame a naive little girl for taking
advantage of the fact that people were actually listening to her and she
was getting a bit of stardom. I bet if your uncle would have pushed the camera away so he could go back to the family and get on with his life.
That was probably his 'American Dream'... being safe with family.

That's not what Jessica Lynch's American Dream is about.
(IMO)

[HESHIANDET]

Originally posted by 50 cent
i don't mutha fuckin currrr

[Gunm]

Geezis, this girl got beat up, raped and deprived of basic human diginity while in captivity. I'd like to see how well you'd weather confinement by the opposing side for a few days or weeks. This is a horrible war, a vietnam for the new milennium. We've gotten into something that will have reprecussions for decades affecting generations of young folk on both sides of the fence. Of course people want at least some glimmer of redemption or hope to come out of all this and that is something Jessica Lynch represents.

Jessica Lynch...she's not a hero who caught saddam or liberated baghdad. But she's certainyl not derserving of being called a "fucking cunt". Whoever came up with this thread is a "fucking cunt".

Let's hope one day you (Taper) get caught walking around in IRAQ and get ass-raped by some Iraqi conscript with your face pressed into the ground, scalding hot sand choking your nasal passages.

I wanna hear Kabar's slant on this.

[FunktionOne]

Originally posted by LENS
Geezis, this girl got beat up, raped and deprived of basic human diginity...

From what I heard she was treated just fine, they didn't even think she was a solider cause she's a women. She might as well have been at the fucking Holiday Inn.

But, If "the evil media" wanted throw all that sweet, sweet money at me for my war story. They could twist it however they want..... I'm a whore.

[--zeSto--]

Originally posted by FunktionOne
From what I heard she was treated just fine, they didn't even think she was a solider cause she's a women. She might as well have been at the fucking Holiday Inn.

oh yeah! those middle eastern dudes are always looking out to help the ladies.

:rolleyes:


I dont think Iraq will become a new vietnam, more like a new northern Ireland

[Dr. Dazzle]

Isn't the actress who plays her in the movie Canadian?

I think it's all just pompous American patriotism. But that's just me....

[willy.wonka]

my homegirls cousin was killed in iraq...the news said that he was killed by an iraqi that launched a rocket at him, but what really happened is he flicked his cigarette butt in a bunker...the dumbass.

dont believe the hype!

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

you say she's probably a virgin, yet her BOOK claims there is substantial evidence she was raped, sodomized even. in interviews and articles about her she has said she doesn't even remember most of the ordeal, and that she would not of wanted her rescuers filming the op, which they did. she does claim that shes mad at all the attention though, and thats a bitch thing to say when you sit down to write a book, and agree to a TV movie. As far as the untrue things being said, you might wanna take a look into the media more than her, like others have suggested.

[SleepAnDream]

what a silly peice of shit you come off as....whatever happened aside, this girl was taken as a prisoner, beat, abused, raped, and here you are on a graffiti web board of all places "venting" about a bullshit made for TV movie. the movie is garbage. But while you were undoubtably sitting in a warm home, with electricity and a computer, typeing off like a fucking idiot, this girl was in another country across the world, damn near gave her life for her country...this girl went through more trauma like you will never know. But hey, its funny right? so while were at it, if you didnt know, there are marines and soldiers out there dying as we speak for YOUR country and YOUR freedoms, why dont you make a post about THOSE stupid cunts....stupid cunt.

[rental]

Originally posted by FunktionOne
From what I heard she was treated just fine, they didn't even think she was a solider cause she's a women. She might as well have been at the fucking Holiday Inn.

But, If "the evil media" wanted throw all that sweet, sweet money at me for my war story. They could twist it however they want..... I'm a whore.

[space base]

[img]http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1155291.jpg'> LYNCH SLAMS RESCUE 'LIES'

US hero Private Jessica Lynch has slammed the American government for exaggerating the account of her 'rescue' from Iraqi captors.

The 20-year-old said "it hurt" for the Pentagon to make claims about the rescue operation that were not true.

And she said it was "wrong" for the US government to use her as a "symbol" for the war.

The outspoken criticism came during an interview on a US news network to promote her book I Am a Soldier Too.

"They used me as a way to symbolise all this stuff," she told the ABC network.

She continued: "It hurt in a way that people would make up stories that they had no truth about."

The slight blonde also said it was wrong for the American military to film the rescue.

The Pentagon initially produced a dramatic account of how Lynch was rescued.

It claimed she had been beaten and stabbed by her Iraqi captors.


"I don't think it happened quite like that," Lynch told ABC.

Sceptics dismissed the original account as wartime propaganda and a BBC documentary alleged the 'rescue' had been staged.

She told ABC she was not involved in any shootout because her rifle had jammed.

Military officials later acknowledged that Lynch wasn't shot, but was hurt after her Humvee utility vehicle was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade and crashed into another vehicle.

American media reported on Thursday that the book, which will be released in the US on Tuesday, would contain allegations that she was raped by Iraqis.

"Even just the thinking about that, that's too painful," she told ABC

[seeking]

**this was all written before those above quotes were posted.


god, some of you guy are so short sighted, it's a wonder you can see your keyboards from an arms length away.
jessica lynch has nothing to do with this. the government was creating her story long before she even knew it was told. they were exagerating her injuries to the point of complete fabrication, before they had any idea. they kept insisting she was shot. but she wasnt. their doctors said she wasnt. our doctors said she wasnt. her family said she wasnt. and of course she doesnt remember any of it. which is fairly suspect, because how do you write a book about something you don't actually know ever took place? she didnt write the book, or make the movie, the forces that want a hero, and want to divert our attention made all of it, she just gets to sit there and smile and take the attention, and the paycheck, that comes along with it. it's all a scam, but it's not her fault. she's just a pawn. she has no more controll over whats happening to her, than any of us would, if put in a similar situation. when you join the military, you give up your right to think for yourself, and to speak for yourself. it's well beyond her.
also, after she was returned home, various family members were reported as saying she had no memory problems what so ever. now think about how many people you know that have been in serious accidents. now think of how many of them have no recollection of a weeks worth of time, where you were concious and awake and alert? i'm not a dr. but i don't think you need to be one to understand that none of her injuries, as ive heard, were serious blunt head trauma's that would cause such a state. for someone to be blacked out for several days, you have to have some pretty serious, near coma-like conditions, none of which was reported about her.
and now she was raped and sodomized? by whom? the dr's, who went out of their way to keep her alive? these are the same fucking people our soldiers are risking their lives to save, you know, our new best friends, but now they're all women hating rapists? bullshit. iraq is not taliban controlled afghanistan. they might not have the freedoms we had in america, but they were not the draconian state of death by stoning that some would make it appear.

bottom line is this. i was not there. none of us where there. kabar having served in the marines 30 years ago, does not make him any more of an authority on this than anyone else. but common sense, and all available facts and past precidents, lead any rational, sane individual to realize this thing is a crock of shit. its the glamorization of a peon soldier who didnt do anything but get lucky, and now is being made into a hero. it's not her fault. she's stuck with it. and think about that for a second. this is a woman who joined an active combat unit. that in itself says alot. if you're a woman that does that, you believe in what you're doing, and your willing to work twice as hard as any man in your squad to prove yourself. someone that is going to do that, is not likely going to be the same type of person to opportunisticly reap the rewards of an unfortunit situation.

just incase you didnt read all the way through that, heres a synompsis.

jessica lynch: not a cunt, just a pawn
US Govt: making martyrs out of molehills.
iraq: the start of the ending.
seeks: hungry.
12ozprophet: everyones favorite beef forum.

[mr.yuck]

Originally posted by taper
stupid little whore dumbass. somehow when the little ungrateful cunt gets her sorry pale ass "resuced" she comes up with this eloborate ass story that couldnt be further from the truth. all of a sudden americas sweet heart is all over the tv crying like a little baby. lying to everyone. then when they know shes lying continues to write a book and has a fucking made for tv movie about her. then to top it off she "doesnt have time" to talk to the man responsible for saving her life cause she is busy working on her book. if i was that guy i would personally punch the hick girl in the face. i know this thread sounds petty and stupid but i just hate the fact of what this girl is doing.

. can someone explain the reasoning behind this to me?

fuckin cunt

<span style='color:black'>Girls do this shit all the time just on a much smaller scale. Lying and shit. "You're the only guy i have slept with! It's yours." It just has never gone bigger than the Maury Povich show before.</span>

[old*824]

Originally posted by ARCEL
i hear you... last night there was a choice between a movie about that, and one about the mormon girl that got kidnapped.

for real though....tv is some seriously mind manipulation wack view point brain washing shit.

i wanna see the jessica 9inch porn spinoff.

[old*824]

Originally posted by SleepAnDream
there are marines and soldiers out there dying as we speak for YOUR country and YOUR freedoms, why dont you make a post about THOSE stupid cunts....stupid cunt.

well actually, those marines and soldiers are dying at the hand of a rich undemocratically elected oil conglomorate that illegally invaded a soveriegn country in violation of international law, with a false pretext of the immenent obtainment of nuclear weapons. meanwhile North Korea has been declared by the cia to HAVE nuclear weapons.

[old*824]

oh and by the way, the people that sent those marines, those jessica lynches and the other 300+ dead and 5000+ wounded, they took all your civil rights and are spending all your tax dollars.

just thought you might want to see straight for a change.

[seeking]

Originally posted by old*824
meanwhile North Korea has been declared by the cia to HAVE nuclear weapons.

as does israel, who also has a war criminal for a president, and has admitted to supporting terrorist organizations.

but we love them, cause they're jewish. and christian love jews.
cause... ummmm....
why again?

[old*824]

Jesus was a Jew.

so how do the people under the name Jew work to exterminate the native people of the birth of a Jewish Prophet/Son of God.

cause nothing in the Torra says kill the natives of Israel, which the Palestiniens are, they are native to the land and have orchards and family roots that go back to the birth of Christ, while "Israelis, have only been a country since 1948 and are mostly european. I dont fucking get it.

my minds scoobied. but i dont give a fuck. Israel has been committing genocide in the name of self defense for the last thirty years.

its like that. If your really devout to being Jewish and the Torra, than there is no other rationalization for what is going on other than the genocide and loss of generations of land and familys displaced by being refugess of the NATIVE Palestinien Moslem and Christians on the HOLY LAND.




Israel passed a law that makes it illegal to preach Christianity in the birth land of Christ.
Thats not Jewish. Thats Facist. Stop telling us its Jewish cause its not.


and actually, the theft of land and the prosecution of "illegal immigrants" in california is a fair comparison to the israel/PALESTINE situation.

except cali is huge so the genocide takes place in the innercitys.

[-MOE LESTER-]

JESSICA LYNCH LOOKS FUN TO SKULLFUCK!!

[Bloc131]

who cares. people get resued all the time in the army and whatnot.

media frenzies make people rich. that's all it's about.

[Gunm]

Goddamnit, where is KaBar2 when we need his opinion? Set alla y'all straight...grrr

[RubbeRBand]

Do you write Taper as in Tapered blue jeans, sequins, denim and Levi. I'll bet you're a shithead.

[boxcarwilly]

Originally posted by old*824
well actually, those marines and soldiers are dying at the hand of a rich undemocratically elected oil conglomorate that illegally invaded a soveriegn country in violation of international law, with a false pretext of the immenent obtainment of nuclear weapons. meanwhile North Korea has been declared by the cia to HAVE nuclear weapons.

not only that but its their idiotic choice to be fucking cunts, last time i checked about the military bullshit that goes on i only breathed relief when i realized there is no draft. what the fuck would anyone die for their country for??? my uncle died in vietnam and that was a good man, i dont agree with his reasons for fighting in that war, i dont have to it just proves that we will never fucking learn, military involvement in anything spells some amount of death, shit they drive to the corner store the enging backfires and they are all heroes for burning in a olive green jeep no fuck you they are idiots. the military has never protected me against anything, and dont give me the global nuclear threat bullshit. bring the nukes, weed out the people who dont have isotopes present in their bloodstream already from microwaves and powerbook g4s next to their head when they sleep.

that rant is over onto the next...

seek- an answer to your Jew/Christian tryst question:
revelations speaks of building a new temple and only when that happens (by the unfortunate death of the palestinians who happen to live there) then the second coming will happen, according to right wing christians the jews just have to build the temple but its the christians who will be saved, the fact that people like pat robertson and george bush have political power and think like this is scary its fucking scary. for more jew/christian buttfucking lets look at circumcision.... damn is that wrong or what. chopping a boys foreskin early, a talmudic practice based on a covenant... thanks god we all love you enough to chop a really healthy piece of flesh for you. now everyones chopped, and noone except me is comparing it to female genital mutilation... infibulation and circumcision are the same fucking thing. they cause unneeded trauma to infants sweet.

that rant is over too.
jobeonepissedandhavetopiss. at the same time...

[yoshy]

Originally posted by Kilo7-
You really cant blame a naive little girl . . .

who, mind you, was carrying a gun.

[imported_dowmagik]

you people bagging her need to wake up and smell the fucking coffee. the gov she works for lied about her rescue to try to sell the war (although by now it was already sold) to the world. i have nothing but respect for the woman, she stood up against the very military that she serves. id shake her hand any day.

[seeking]

Originally posted by LENS
Goddamnit, where is KaBar2 when we need his opinion? Set alla y'all straight...grrr

again i say, having served in the marines 30 years ago has nothing to do with this situation.
if you want things set straight, go re-read my post.


jobe,
i was sort of playing off the 'in america we dont really like jews, but we're killing ourselves to help them, so they can turn their backs on us over and over' school of thought. actual rational (instead my overly simplified prejudice :D ) is nice though.
as far as circumcision, correct me if im wrong, but isnt it also a prodistant, puritan sort of thing as well? in either case, its an incredibly strange thing for americans to pick up. 9/10th's of the world still has their foreskins, but we know better, cause we're american and the jews do it too.
...huh, kinda metaphorical isnt it. ;)

seeks/i need to look more into this jessica lynch thing. i kind of like her a bit now. im hoping her book 'i am a soldier too' refers to the fact that she was a soldier, as well as a fabricated symbol of false democracy, false intentions, false advertising, and any other falsity that can be tied into a ribbon and placed around a tree. if she actually puts the good of mankind before her own safety, she could make a HUGE impact on public perception of our government. when the 'hero' who we've been praising, turns around and villifies the people who forced her into the spotlight, people have no choice but to believer her, lest they look like fools and turn their backs on her then.

seeksII/i hate our government

[Ted Wakowski]

Definitely sounds like war propaganda. I'm sort of surprised she wasn't quieted when it was realized that she wasn't exactly playing ball. Maybe too late?

[seeking]

what exactly can they do at this point? if they could have gotten to her before she started to speak out, they could have held alot of things over her head. but now that she's subtly started to, for her to 'dissapear' would be way too suspect. im sure if her claims start getting too much attention, something will come up to turn the tide back in their favor. either the US media will stop running stories about it at our govt's request, or they'll write the stories they do run with an overly patriotic slant to them.

nothing ever changes, it just starts to smell worse.

[philestine]

This site really needs some centrists or those with a more balanced view.
You cunts are way too predictable.

[THE EYE]

Go Jessica Lynch!!!:)

[Ted Wakowski]

Originally posted by seeking
for her to 'dissapear' would be way too suspect.

No, you're WRONG WRONG WRONG, and this is why:

Nah I'm kidding. Yeah it'll be forgotten about soon. People don't even flinch at iran-contra anymore. Ollie North could host his own talk show.

[!@#$%]

Originally posted by dowmagik
you people bagging her need to wake up and smell the fucking coffee. the gov she works for lied about her rescue to try to sell the war (although by now it was already sold) to the world. i have nothing but respect for the woman, she stood up against the very military that she serves. id shake her hand any day.
^werd.


when did she lie?

i only heard the media and the government's lies.

she admits she is not a hero
she admits the story was used to fuel the war.

she did not create this media attention for herself.

i'd like to see some of you guys admit to being anally raped.

[!@#$%]

...i maye hate the government
and have no respect for the armed forces.

but i do respect those serving.
even if i don't always agree with them or their missions.

i understand a sense of 'duty'

some of ther liberals on this site just have zero fucking compassion.

[Nic Thamaire]

Pornographer Says He Has Nude Lynch Photos



By SARA KUGLER, Associated Press Writer

NEW YORK - Pornographer Larry Flynt claims he bought nude photos of Pfc. Jessica Lynch last month to publish in Hustler magazine, but changed his mind because she is a "good kid ... and a victim of the Bush administration."


AP Photo



The photos, which Flynt's publicist says show the undressed Army supply clerk posing with male soldiers, were sold to Flynt last month, according to a statement from Flynt that was read to The Associated Press on Tuesday by his publicist.


The publicist, who would not give her name, said Flynt "has no plans to use the photos."


"Jessica Lynch is a good kid, she's not a hypocrite or out to fool anyone," Flynt's statement said. "She's just a victim of the Bush administration, who is using her to justify the war in Iraq (news - web sites) and force-feed us a Joan of Arc."


In an interview with the AP on Tuesday, Lynch declined to comment on any aspect of the matter, including whether such photos exist.


The interview was scheduled to publicize her biography, "I Am a Soldier, Too: The Jessica Lynch Story," which was released Tuesday. It covers the days between March 23, when her 507th Maintenance Company convoy was ambushed in Nasiriyah, Iraq, and April 1, when she was evacuated from a hospital by U.S. commandos.


After her rescue, the young soldier from Palestine, W.Va., was celebrated as a hero prisoner of war.


Published reports Tuesday said the photos showed Lynch topless, but Flynt's publicist claimed the former soldier is nude in the pictures.


"At this point Mr. Flynt has no comment as to the content of the photographs except to say Jessica Lynch is not wearing any clothes in them," she said.


Flynt's publicist would not say how much the publisher paid for the pictures, or who sold them.


Flynt has been in a wheelchair since an assassination attempt in 1978. His magazine won a landmark Supreme Court decision in 1988 that held that even pornographic spoofs enjoy First Amendment protection.


[img]http://us.news2.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20031111/capt.nyr11411110406.people_lynch_johnson_nyr114.jp g'>

[seeking]

Originally posted by !@#$%
[Bi'd like to see some of you guys admit to being anally raped. [/B]

does anyone have any statements on this?
until just yesterday, i never heard anything mentioned about this.
im not saying it didnt happen, but its quite an allegation to throw around without also giving some sort of backing.


philestine,
and you, my dear 'cunt', with your completely baseless slander, are quite predictable yourself.
why dont you be the 'centrist'? why don't you make an attempt at dispelling my well thought out and well articulated arguments for 'my side'?
oohhhhhhhhhh, thats right. cause it's much easier to just make insults than to back your claims. isn't thata novel idea. :rolleyes:

[Overtime]

shit, this mess is pissing me off, people are bombin shit and we are puttin them in jail? helocopters are crashing and we are reporting it on the news like its a disneyland ride messing up. For christs sake peeps, we are fighting, expect that shit, what the fuck, its not that amazing, america is a huge bunch of pussies

[seeking]

not implying this is definitive proof of anything, just passing it along...
and asking how a woman, covered in blood, nearly dead, with a broken femur and laceration to the skull, undoubtedly in shock and unconcious, could remember being raped, despite having no other recollection of anything that happend...

iraqi doctors deny Jessica Lynch was raped

The Associated Press


NASIRIYAH, Iraq -- Iraqi doctors who treated former prisoner of war Jessica Lynch dismissed on Friday claims made in her biography that she was raped by her Iraqi captors.

Although Lynch said she has no memory of the sexual assault, medical records cited in "I am a Soldier, Too: The Jessica Lynch Story" indicate that she was raped and sodomized by her Iraqi captors, according to U.S. media who said they had advance copies.

The book -- due to be released Tuesday -- covers Lynch's experience between March 23 when her 507th Maintenance Company convoy was ambushed in Nasiriyah and April 1 when she was evacuated from a hospital by U.S. commandos. It was unclear if the book cites American or Iraqi records.

A family spokesman, Stephen Goodwin, confirmed the book alleges Lynch was raped.

Lynch suffered broken bones to her right arm, right leg and thighs and ankle and received a head injury when her Humvee utility vehicle was hit by a rocket-propelled grenade and crashed into another vehicle. Eleven soldiers were killed in the attack.

Dr. Mahdi Khafazji, an orthopedic surgeon at Nasiriyah's main hospital performed surgery on Lynch to repair a fractured femur and said he found no signs that she was raped or sodomized.

Khafazji, speaking at his private clinic in Nasiriyah, said he examined her extensively and would have detected signs of sexual assault. He said the examination turned up no trace of semen.

Dr. Khafazji said Lynch was taken first to the Military Hospital, a few hundred yards from the ambush site at around 8 a.m., about an hour after the attack. A few hours later, she was brought to his hospital.

"She was injured at about 7 in the morning," he said. "What kind of animal would do it to a person suffering from multiple injuries?"

Dr. Jamal al-Saeidi, a brigadier general and head of the orthopedic department at the now disbanded Military Hospital, remembers seeing Jessica's motionless body on a bed in the crowded lobby of his hospital. He said a police van parked outside appeared to have brought her to the hospital.

"When she was brought there she was fighting for her life," said Dr. al-Saeidi at his private clinic. "She was in shock because of the severity of her injury."

He said Lynch was fully clothed with her field jacket buttoned up. "Her clothes were not torn, buttons had not come off, her pants were zipped up," al-Saeidi said.

Al-Saeidi said he found no signs of rape during an examination although he acknowledged he was not looking for signs of sexual assault.

Lynch had lost more than half of her blood because of a 10- to 15-centimeter long wound on the left side of her head, as well as broken limbs that caused internal bleeding, al-Saeidi said.

"We had a few minutes, golden minutes to save her," he said. He rushed her to the operating room, away from the crowded lobby, and gave her intravenous fluid and blood and stitched her head wound.

Another U.S. soldier, Lori Piestewa, died half an hour after arriving at the hospital with Lynch of severe head injuries, doctors said.

Half an hour after surgery on Lynch, al-Saeidi assured her that she was in good hands.

He told her that she had to undergo surgery in a couple of days, but Lynch said: "'No, I want to be in the States."'

Soon afterward, military intelligence officers came to the hospital to take Lynch away. Dr. al-Saeidi told them if she did not get medical attention she would die. They took her to the Saddam Hospital, where she stayed nine days until Iraqi soldiers left the hospital.

Several hours later American commandos raided the hospital and evacuated her.

"Why are they saying such things?" a bitter Dr. Khodheir al-Hazbar, the hospital's deputy director, said. "We were good to her."

[!@#$%]

i agree there is no definitive proof.

but there was enough medical evidence to put it in her book..
she doesn't claim to remember, it is medical evidence.

That is the shocking revelation in I Am a Soldier, Too, the much-anticipated biography of the former POW.

Best-selling author Rick Bragg tells Lynch's story for her, often using her own words. Thankfully, she has no memory of the rape.

"Jessi lost three hours," Bragg wrote. "She lost them in the snapping bones, in the crash of the Humvee, in the torment her enemies inflicted on her after she was pulled from it."

The scars on Lynch's battered body and the medical records indicate she was anally raped, and "fill in the blanks of what Jessi lived through on the morning of March 23, 2003," Bragg wrote.



and she has been more than truthful...

Lynch told Bragg she never fired a shot, because her M-16 jammed. "I didn't kill nobody," she said.

Lynch also denied in the book claims by Iraqi lawyer Mohammed Odeh Al-Rehaief, who said he saw one of former Iraqi strongman Saddam Hussein's black-clad fedayeen slap her as she lay in her hospital bed.

"Unless they hit me while I was asleep – and why do that?" she said.

Lynch described to Bragg how Iraqi doctors were branded traitors by Saddam's henchmen for helping her and how they tried to treat her wounds in a shattered hospital where painkillers were scarce.

She said one nurse tried to ease her agony by singing to her.

Lynch confirmed reports in the book that Iraqi doctors tried to sneak her to safety in an ambulance but turned back when wary US soldiers opened fire.


take it easy on her, she is just a kid.

[boxcarwilly]

ok time to offend and defend....
jessica lynch, hmm was she anally raped (not a joking matter rape is never ever deserved but most people dont think like that especially in a womanhating culture like iraq) but in their defense she is a pretty hot piece of white ass, and its desert fever, add to that the fact that
1.) she and her platoon and numerous other us army troops were murdering peoples families, kids, uncles sisters moms dads, fuck that id probably be mad enough to maybe not rape them but at least cut their reproductive organs out they killed my fucking family they deserve it and worse, i dont know maybe they could hmmm... find away to kill her family, hmm bioterrorism, hmm flying planes into tall buildings, rage and revenge go a long way.
2.) how does the us treat pows in gitmo, oh lets not ask this question, lets not talk about released prisoners who talk about being anally raped by cattle prods, fingers being cut off, oh those things are fucking normal because americans can do no wrong. no. fuck you. america does more wrong than any other culture, the only reason i give it a fucking chance at times is due to the fact that i can sit here and spout this shit off without any recourse... oh wait that period has ended... i am a terrorist for thinking. shit. gotta go phone lines tapped.

***get over it people you join an army you have a fucking gun you shoot at things, *you the collective euphemism for the armed forces* you deserve what you get. karma. causality. whatever you want to call it you wear the uniform you deserve your dick on a plate. and your family should be dead. fuck you. fuck you. and fuck you. as a matter of fact us "leftists" have more fucking compassion than youll every know. war kills. i dont want war. duh. oh yeah did i say fuck you.

jobeone.nocompassionforvolunteersuicide.

[Behemoth]

Ive got the shits.

[RubbeRBand]

Yo I'm amped. Ha ha, just kidding. No seriously, America does some bad things to our POWs. We hold them in Guantanamo Bay which leads to the justification that American laws don't cout. Yeah, but the Supreme Court has decided to review that. I wonder what's going to happen next, Democratic Candidate assasinated by Saddam Hussein look-alike:yum: Well whatever it is, expect it to be something along the lines of a grand finale, the Mayan Calender ends 2016.:idea:

[seeking]

Originally posted by boxcarwilly
ok time to offend and defend....
jessica lynch, hmm was she anally raped (not a joking matter rape is never ever deserved but most people dont think like that especially in a womanhating culture like iraq) but in their defense she is a pretty hot piece of white ass, and its desert fever, add to that the fact that

iraq is not a 'woman hating culture' any more than america is a woman hating culture. the objectifying of women here is just as psychologically damaging, or at the very least, effecting, as anything that goes on in general everyday iraqi society. they have different standards, but iraq was a 'modern' society. women went to college. they held 'normal' 'american' style jobs. they didnt live in caves.

couple logistical things.
a femur fracture alone can dump 2 litres of blood into the thigh, and thats if its a closed wound. an open wound, can depleat nearly all the blood in your body if not attended to. a scalp wound also bleeds profusely, and is very hard to control. so you've got a woman who is covered in nearly half her bodies volume of blood, is undoubtedly in shock from the pain, and lack of perfusion (blood getting to the organs, tissues), and while in her full army gear, quite likely indestuingshable from her fellow male soldiers. nooowwwwww, maybe im just not 'angry' enough, but the last thing i want to put my dick in, is a giant gaping wound, which is what her body was. i would find it hard for anyone, no matter how angry they were, to even be able to get hard at such a thing. however, even if assuming it is possible, why would those soldiers, who im assuming it must have been (if it happend) even take her to a hospital in the first place? and with what spare time? with her injuries, there was such a limited window of opportunity to get her stablized, it would leave almost no time for such 'hanky panky'. and if it would have happend, there would have to be easily detectable wounds from such an 'intrusion'. anyone thats ever banged their girl in the ass (or guys, if you're into such a thing) know how 'delicate' a procedure it is. to bang some girl in the ass, who is in shock and nearly dead, would tear her ass to pieces. and anyone with that many injuries would get a complete physical at the hospital. if it were a standard rape, it would be likely to over look it, but not anal rape, in the middle of the dessert, on a half dead body. 'that's gonna leave a mark'

and again, i'm not saying it didnt happen, i wasnt there, im just injecting 'common sense' and physical law in to the equation. maybe it did. and if that is the case....well... as everyones favorite poster revolutionaries once said 'to justify those that died, remember the badge and their chosen right'. getting raped is not cool, but if someone tries to kill you, raping them in return hardly falls under the same classification as being date raped by your friends boyfriend. if her gun had not jammed, she would have tried to kill them. she's lucky to have escaped with just torn rectum and a few scars. there are reports of thousands of vietnamese women, who were not so lucky.

[boxcarwilly]

Originally posted by seeking
iraq is not a 'woman hating culture' any more than america is a woman hating culture. the objectifying of women here is just as psychologically damaging, or at the very least, effecting, as anything that goes on in general everyday iraqi society. they have different standards, but iraq was a 'modern' society. women went to college. they held 'normal' 'american' style jobs. they didnt live in caves.


completely agreed seeks, i was using it as literal sarcasm, you should know my stance on misogyny, hell i even read cunt once or twice.

but i agree whole heartedly, a burka is no more oppressive than a bikini... and i can argue that one until im blue in the face... in fact a burka: knowing the psychology of humanity : is so much sexier than a bikini, it is mysterious it is sensual, and it protects women from the shit that theyd deal with when their tits are hanging out of a fucking lycra bandaid, and some more lycra is flossing their asshole. (not that thats not sexy but oversexualization has definately led to so many more problems than undersexualizing a culture.) but us we dont know know middle ground... shit might makes right, right? or some other bogus martial cliché.

and i am with you on the viet-comment... the us aint angels. sorry about being such a fucking ranter this shit just pisses me off. she isnt a hero, my uncle wasnt a hero the only heroes are the innocent and they dont fucking exist so. bang bang bang.

j.

[hottnickels]

Originally posted by boxcarwilly
ok time to offend and defend....
jessica lynch, hmm was she anally raped (not a joking matter rape is never ever deserved but most people dont think like that especially in a womanhating culture like iraq) but in their defense she is a pretty hot piece of white ass, and its desert fever, add to that the fact that
1.) she and her platoon and numerous other us army troops were murdering peoples families, kids, uncles sisters moms dads, fuck that id probably be mad enough to maybe not rape them but at least cut their reproductive organs out they killed my fucking family they deserve it and worse, i dont know maybe they could hmmm... find away to kill her family, hmm bioterrorism, hmm flying planes into tall buildings, rage and revenge go a long way.
2.) how does the us treat pows in gitmo, oh lets not ask this question, lets not talk about released prisoners who talk about being anally raped by cattle prods, fingers being cut off, oh those things are fucking normal because americans can do no wrong. no. fuck you. america does more wrong than any other culture, the only reason i give it a fucking chance at times is due to the fact that i can sit here and spout this shit off without any recourse... oh wait that period has ended... i am a terrorist for thinking. shit. gotta go phone lines tapped.

***get over it people you join an army you have a fucking gun you shoot at things, *you the collective euphemism for the armed forces* you deserve what you get. karma. causality. whatever you want to call it you wear the uniform you deserve your dick on a plate. and your family should be dead. fuck you. fuck you. and fuck you. as a matter of fact us "leftists" have more fucking compassion than youll every know. war kills. i dont want war. duh. oh yeah did i say fuck you.

jobeone.nocompassionforvolunteersuicide.


(as !@#$%)
i posted already that she had been raped, fucked up shit done to her, etc..mostly because of the attention she received on the board.

isn't it interesting that a person who claims to detest all the attention she has received started a thread about her?

and what is with the misogyny here? a cunt??
that is unnecessary.
but yeah, say it, what the fuck do i care?

because I REALIZE. it is a war. innocent families get fire bombed, women get anally raped.
she knew what she may have been in for.
i just commented because she is a child after all.
she is some kid who got in way over her head because she maybe was swept up in patriotrism and the ideal of a free ticket to college.
and a war pops off and she gets the worst.

but i've seen her on her tv interview.
SHE DOES NOT CLAIM TO BE A HERO OR A VICTIM.
she is also more worried about people like lori piestewa and her children, like many americans.
she was also lied to by the government.
she has seen the lies they had printed about her in the ny times, and SHE ADMITTED IT WAS BULLSHIT

maybe if you guys would stop hating for 2 seconds you would see that she may be a powerful tool [in the media] for displaying our government's tireless propaganda machine and all the people it will mow down.

[imported_suburbian bum]

Originally posted by SleepAnDream
there are marines and soldiers out there dying as we speak for YOUR country and YOUR freedoms,

Oh excuse me, I didnt realize that killing a couple thousand civilians in a distant country, because their evil leader had a couple of non existant weapons, was protecting my freedoms that were taken away by the patriot act.

[Æ°]

Iraqi doctors in Nasiriya say they provided the best treatment they could for the soldier in the midst of war. She was assigned the only specialist bed in the hospital and one of only two nurses on the floor.

"I examined her, I saw she had a broken arm, a broken thigh and a dislocated ankle," said Dr Harith a-Houssona, who looked after her.

"There was no [sign of] shooting, no bullet inside her body, no stab wound - only road traffic accident. They want to distort the picture. I don't know why they think there is some benefit in saying she has a bullet injury."





Those quotes were taken from BBC news.

edit:http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/corr...ent/3028585.stm (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/programmes/correspondent/3028585.stm)

[Æ°]

And on another note...

Those marines and other armed forces that have been mentioned are willing to sacrifice their lives to defend the rights that are guaranteed to us under our constitution. The very rights that the Bush administration is making efforts to strip from us.

[boxcarwilly]

and what is with the misogyny here? a cunt??
that is unnecessary.
but yeah, say it, what the fuck do i care?


i use the word cunt as a feminist uses the word cunt a description albeit graphic and not pretty of the female genitalia, in fact the book titled "cunt" has more to do with understanding the female psyche/neo-fem mentality than any book of the times, except maybe the book titled "woman" which basically shoves it to men about how we all started life as females, its scientific, amazing. men think that they are all that but what about the 8 out of 1000 children born intergendered every year what is the way doctors recommend solving that on almost all cases, nip/tuck bring the kid back to his roots regardless of his genetic makeup of xy chromos. tho i dont agree with the chopping of anything in newborns foreskin, or micropenis i fully support the medical theory that raising a child as female if it is intersexed may be an easier way to cope wtih an underproductive or nonexistent male hormonal balance (this only really speaks for the male xy intersex baby and not any of the 7-16 genetic recombinations that have been found in the human species.)

j.making my brain hurt.

[Æ°]

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/3262377.stm

[bigdork]

Originally posted by SleepAnDream
what a silly peice of shit you come off as....whatever happened aside, this girl was taken as a prisoner, beat, abused, raped, and here you are on a graffiti web board of all places "venting" about a bullshit made for TV movie. the movie is garbage. But while you were undoubtably sitting in a warm home, with electricity and a computer, typeing off like a fucking idiot, this girl was in another country across the world, damn near gave her life for her country...this girl went through more trauma like you will never know. But hey, its funny right? so while were at it, if you didnt know, there are marines and soldiers out there dying as we speak for YOUR country and YOUR freedoms, why dont you make a post about THOSE stupid cunts....stupid cunt.

They're dying for a dozen or so multi million and billionnares, they are dying so the US can start its quest for world domination, they are dying for oil and christian theologies. Take your cliched patriotic crap to the fox news chat room or something. It seems to me the majority of people here now the reality of whats going on. As far as Jessica Lynch she's just a pawn, The pentagon knows how pissed off the Average Bill O'Reily listener would get hearing that a white woman solider was raped by dark skinned "terriosts".

[old*824]

lets look at the facts.

iraqi soldiers been through the iran iraq war. the gulf war. sanctions that prohibited normal societal recovery and a failed uprising that killed thousands. on top of that, america invades them illegally.

if you were a iraqi soldier, and you captured a beautifull american women and were starved, under attack, prolly had members of your family killed.......needless to say have lived your whole life in a society that gives women next to no rights......you think those iraqi soldiers didnt rape her?

at the same time.....wars a motherfucker Jessica Lynch. I respect you for joining the armed forces, as my family has been in the armed forces from the gulf war to the revolutionary....so im sure you agree war is a mother fucker.

[hottnickels]

modern war is full of propaganda.
we blanketed countries with leaflets for chrissakes.
she's just a pawn in that, and she knows it.


and as far as 'cunt' goes...i most definitely use that word only as an insult, not as some way to draw attention to my book, or as some pseudo-emancipating feminist term of identity :nope:

[old*824]

and as far as caring about Jessica Lynch. I dont. I have lost friends to circumstances they did not sign up for that were unjust and never got no tv movie.
I mean, i would say "ay girl yous fly...you wanna drink?"...but other than that....her life is none of my business.

and i think that respects her. i have no intention of reading her book. what she went through in iraq is her own personal hell the goverment and media have exploited for their own purposes.

its bullshit. fuck this media mindwash. go drink a forty and vandalize somthing you nerds.

Jessica Lynch is fine though. Im sure she will find a husband and can only hope he gives her the respect a woman deserves.


close this shit.

[DrSeusLives]

The bitch can swing.

[img]http://www.jessica-lynch.com/images/jessica-bat.jpg'>



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This Poem was posted on the Jessica Lynch Forums and touched me so much I had to include it on the Main page, it was written by 12 y/o Candice Malone of Virginia

Dear Jessica this poem is for you.

An American hero
Jessica from what I hear you are really cool, I also hear you want to be a teacher at an Elementary school.
You left your country to fight in danger, you were trying to free people who were filled with anger.
You are now all over TV you have become an American hero, when I compare you to any superhero in the world you win 10 to 0.


http://www.jessica-lynch.com/

[old*824]

[img]http://static.sky.com/images/pictures/1155291.jpg'>

you know though?

this is the type of woman i would marry. real on the real though. a Virginia woman. straight up. Ill marry you give you intelligent kids and support you while you raise them with your beauty. im military bred since deep. grown up on military bases on the middle east myself.
ill build you a house with interior design and exterior like woah girl.

and just cause yous fine and got your life exploited Ms. Jessica Lynch....ill rock a end to end for you.

Happy Veterans Day Jessica Lynch.

[Dick Quickwood]

Originally posted by DrSeusLives
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Dear Jessica this poem is for you.

An American hero
Jessica from what I hear you are really cool, I also hear you want to be a teacher at an Elementary school.
You left your country to fight in danger, you were trying to free people who were filled with anger.
You are now all over TV you have become an American hero, when I compare you to any superhero in the world you win 10 to 0.



:cry2:

[old*824]

:bawling: :bawling: :bawling:
edit....btw...these tears are for all the veterans of all wars especially all the folks i got that hadda go through iraq the first and second time.

for
Iraq
Vietnam
Kosovo
Panama
Grenada
Korea
WW2
WW1
Mexican American War
Civil War
War of 1812
and the REVOLUTIONARY WAR........which is about due for a nonviolent remix if you ask me.

[taper]

heres the bottom line. this is my beef with the chick. just because you are a pow for a week or two weeks or whatever does not imo give you some kind of reason to write a book on it. nor does it give you reason to make something out of nothing. now i know that the media and the government loves to exploit shit like this but that only goes so far. shes writing the book. she is saying things or has said things that are blown wayyy out of preportion. like i said before, no one knows exactly what happened we can only go by what is told to us and then form a opinion on what we have to go by. mine is that she doenst deserve all this crap. mind you when the vets got back from vietnam they were treated like total shit, called baby killers and whatnot. this also had to do with the media but you didnt see them on tv crying and shit about it. this isnt even a fucking war. how do you go to war for a month? come on guys think about this for a second. some "soldier" not some chick. when you put on that uniform and go into battle you get treated the same way, bullets kill no matter what. when your taken prisoner it shouldnt matter if your a man or not. to come home here and "let' the government portry you as being something that you willingly think that you are not is total shit. now her truth comes out, but i can remember when it was oh so much diffrent. and to all the people that called me a cunt thats fine. women get raped all the time. i have a cousin that was raped and its a terrible thing. but its war. if that truly happend i feel bad for her but i still do not think any of her tribulations constitute her writing a book, cause if this was the case where is all the books about the wwII pows and veitnam ones? what about when they were torturted for years? i guess they dont get one. but some girl cause she was captured and whatever else they tell us happend is that hottest shit to hit tv since friends.?? doesnt add up for me. and no i do not wear tapered blue jeans. and i like being a cunt. its fun:D

[old*824]

stop picking on girls that are harder than you taper. really dog, its not becoming on you.

she went through shit that would leave shit in your pants and if you was her you would write a book to.

shut up fool. you aint a war veteran so i hope you dont write a book.

[!@#$%]

even larry flynt agrees with me.

NEW YORK (AP) -- Pornographer Larry Flynt says he bought nude photos of Pfc. Jessica Lynch to publish in Hustler magazine, but changed his mind because she's a "good kid" who became "a pawn for the government."

Flynt told The Associated Press on Tuesday that he bought the photos last month from the men who purportedly participated in the amateur shoot with the Army supply clerk. The soldiers "wanted to let it be known that she's not all apple pie," Flynt said.

"My first intention was to publish them, but I don't think it was the best, positive move I could make," Flynt said in a telephone interview. "She's very much a pawn for the government. They force-fed us a Joan of Arc."

[taper]

old you have no idea how hard i am. nor am i picking on anyone. and did i say i was gonna write a book? no i didnt. and if i was a pow i still woundnt write a book. fuck my uncle cant even talk about the war let alone write a novel. and even then what would her book prove? nothing just that nothing happened to her really and she and her (our) government is blowing it out of preportion. i dont think it takes a book to say the government used me and i guess my tribulaitons werent anymore diffrent than any other soldier in the army.

[i11igul]

damn, yall i like to see some of yall go through some of theis hit that the soldiers over there are goin through right now, man shit aint no little shit, got fuckin radical ass towle werain ass sand nukkas pickin you of at any minute wathc ya muthafuckin back in the desert, its gorillafor sure

[hottnickels]

oh come on..[taper]

books have been written about all kinds of stuff. (romance novels??)

it surprises me that you would start a thread to draw attention to her when you claim to hate all the attention she gets..

whatever happened to just turning the tv off, or ignoring the publicity about her..
of course people realize it's been overdone at this point, she says it herself.

when tipper gore tried to censor prince, it was like, "get over it."

i'll say the same to you.

...and who put you in charge of deciding when someone has been through some rough shit? i didn't know you were in her convoy.

[i11igul]

don't know what her said , but fuck this kid man, he doen't make sense worth 2 hotknickels

[SleepAnDream]

i have personally trained marine officers who have fought and died in iraq over the last year...its sucks to see some people have no appreciation for those servicemen and women who have risked and or have LOST thier lives for us over here....grumble grumble.....:scowl:

[i11igul]

^^now hes sauyin somethin, props to this dude, and you know if he trainde em hes a hard ass dude, the teacher is ALWAYS smaret than the student

[taper]

dont tell me about no respect. my whole family is or was in the military. green barets, seals ect. plus one of my best friends is a marine over there.

[Rev.DUGOOD]

i think the government blew this story out of preportion ,via the media,because thay wanted to make the enemies look even worse.i heard in her little story that she wasnt raped or beatin or even asked one question about the war or americans.so i guess you cant believe everything you hear on cnn............:o

[Pistol]

Dude, she's not pimping her tragedy out like some people would.
She's releasing a book and going on a couple shows to talk about it.
She's really stayed away from the media and handled it pretty well.
Chick got raped out there and has her leg all disfigured and needs PT for years just to be able to hopefull walk without crutches or a cane.
It's not her fault the media, the public and administration is pumping her up. She was reluctant do the whole homecoming parade deal.

The other part that sucks is she's getting 80% of her benefits and that black girl that was captured is only gettinf 30%.

If that shit happened to most of you attention whores you'd be all up on TRL, the view, the morning shows and Conan.

[-MOE LESTER-]

ONCE AGAIN, ID SKULLFUCK HER