israel is still stupid (incase you were thinking it might have learned its lesson)

[seeking]

yesterday 100,000 israelis came out to protest sharon's decision to REMOVE jewish settlers from palestinian land. including 15 members of sharon's own cabinet. they're all claiming that right when israel is poised to WIN THE WAR ON TERRORISM, sharon is being weak!?!?!?!?!

again, it's not just sharon that's the problem, obviously atleast 100,000 people (of the only 5million) are completely fucked too.

[imported_Tesseract]

they re-elected him...enough said.

[--zeSto--]

I just hope they realise that building a big wall
to keep the bad guys out thasn't actually worked since China did it.

[seeking]

Originally posted by Tesseract
they re-elected him...enough said.

re-elected him after he was removed from government for commiting WAR CRIMES.

ugh.

[imported_Tesseract]

i'm saying...and then..RE-elected him again...do i feel pitty? NO

..seriously, is that dude any better than sadaam. milocevic and all the other freaks that get fair trials in hauge?

[seeking]

any better?
as far as im concerned, which is worse; the guy who tells you he's gonna stab you in the back, or the guy who stabs you in the back, then when you turn around he goes 'whoa, what happend to you!?'.

[imported_Tesseract]

I'd say the guy who who stabs you in the back, then when you turn around he goes 'whoa, what happend to you!? lemme see that' and stabs you again in the same place...then when you turn around he sais "It wasnt me!!! i swear!"

somebody drive a tomahawk through his skull...

[seeking]

...or what about the guy who stabs you in the back, then screams 'look out, he's got a knife!!!' then pulls it out, stabs your whole family and says 'dude, it was self defense, i had to, the guy had a knife!'

more people need to be scallped.

[--zeSto--]

the worst...


when two mods stretch a metaphor to the point of it being a knife in this threads back.

[imported_Europe]

Looks like it isnt too smart to be Crew and like Israel, so Ill just shut up...

[Spike]

Originally posted by Tesseract
somebody drive a tomahawk through his skull...

I hope you mean this kind of Tomahawk...

[img]http://www.nd.edu/~dlindley/govt324/tomahawk.jpg'>

(Tomahawk cruise missile)

[Pistol]

kilo and spike think they're crew?

kill 'em all let god sort 'em out.

[seeking]

europe,
if you can somehow come up with a way to intelligently defend the thievery of land, imprisonment of a once soverign nation, and the murder of innocent people, then by all means, please do so.

but yes, being pro-israel is right up there with being pro-nas as far as im concerned.

[--zeSto--]

Originally posted by Pistol
kilo and spike think they're crew?

who said that? we're not crew but we are OG's.

I saw a great report on a swimmer from Palestine
who's going to make it to the Summer Olympics in fetaland.
He used to train with the Isreali team but they told him he'd
have to pay to use their pool because he's from palestine.
So what did they do? His family and the community hand built
an underground pool for him to train in. Apparently it's very
illegal to build things like that under Isreal's laws.. so it's top secret.

Luckily Isreal's olympic mandate states that at least one swimmer
is from the Palestinian side of the fence, and this kid is the best
they've got. He's trying to have the olympic comittee recognize him
as palestine's first athelete in the games because the Isreali govt
wouldn't pay for his training or even let him use their pool for free.
(like they do with their 'real' athletes)

I hope he wins the gold!

[imported_Tesseract]

Thats such a serious and pollitical decision that i'm guessing it wont happen...having a Palestinian athlete in the games is like the world recognises a palestinian state...plus that kid doesnt want to get down with the israeli team so we're talking about a palestinian team here....i can hardly see this happening...i'd applause it though

[--zeSto--]

the case is more like:

The kid wants to go to the olympics but the Isreali Govt is going to make
him pay to be on the team, which is totally against everything the Olympics is about.

His logic is:

I'm not being supported by Isreal, but I am being supported by Palestine.
Why the hell would I take home a medal to the country that didn't support me?

again... I really hope he wins a medal.

[Weapon X]

Word to that. But I hope even more that Canada wins a medal. But yea, watch him be the anchor in the relay and mess up. Israel would hate Palestines even more. I didn't even know they had a swim team, though.

[imported_Tesseract]

I got that, the main question is:

Is he going to compete as a member of the israeli team?
or he's entering the games as an athlete of the palestinian state?

Given his logic on the matter, he wants to go as palestine or not at all...in that case the Olympic games comitee must recognise that there is a palestinian state...you see what i'm saying?

it aint happening, no way

[seeking]

[img]http://www.u.arizona.edu/~ageeth/1968%20Student%20Movement%20in%20Mexico%20Lecture/img030.gif'>

[Ski Mask]

I've been looking for a spot to drop this little gem of an editorial for awhile now, here seems as good a place as any. from our very own canadian zionist run news outlet called Canwest Global:


Europe has little to teach about world peace

Global Television
Wednesday, November 19, 2003

A recent poll of European attitudes shows that 59 per cent think that Israel is the greatest threat to world peace.

Europeans like to think of themselves as politically sophisticated, but I've often wondered if many of them actually get past very shallow analysis of world affairs.

This latest anti-Israel attitude only confirms my suspicion that many of them do not.

We don't even need to consider Israeli-Palestinian questions in order to analyze this latest pathetic trend; we need only look at the past political leaders Europeans have either chosen or unfortunately allowed to rise to power.

In 1930, when Canadians were casting ballots for Richard Bennett, Germans propelled the Nazi party to second place in the Reichstag.

In 1932, when Americans were voting for Franklin Roosevelt, over a third of Germans cast a ballot for Adolf Hitler.

Besides the German chancellor, need I mention Mussolini ,or even the French penchant for constantly changing their republic?

While Canada and the United States have arguably been consistently improving democracies since at least the 1860s if not before, much of Europe was busy exchanging one tyranny for another until 1945, and only after we rescued Europeans from themselves once again.

Europe has much to teach North Americans about culture, art, and how to enjoy life.

But that continent has little to teach anyone about world peace.

I'm Mark Milke, author of Tax Me: I'm Canadian, and that's The Last Word.

©_Copyright 2003_Global Television
----------------------------

this editorial comes from a op-ed spot called "the last word" where they run pieces at the end of the global national newscast. most of you are farmiliar with this kind of setup, only the editorials never really have any left/right balance, or even token left wing commentaries to give some appearance of fairness. its all whatever izzy asper (or his son now that he's dead) feels like he wants to run that day. a quick skim of the archives shows a list of titles like:

Unions Hinder Economic Prosperity
BBC's Left Wing Slant Hurts Its Credibility
Let's Get On With It: Arafat Must Go
We Could Learn From CIA-Orchestrated Coups (I'm not bullshitting you, this is verbatim)
Israel Has Right To Attack Terrorists In Syria
Anti-Zionism is the new Anti-Semitism

go check them out for a laugh:
http://www.canada.com/globaltv/lastword/ls...rd03/index.html (http://www.canada.com/globaltv/lastword/lstwrdthird03/index.html)

[Weapon X]

If anything, he is competing as an Israeli, but he’s doing it for his homeland. So if they win a medal, he’ll publicly say that Israel did nothing for him except bring him to the Olympics (only because Palestine ain’t recognized).

fuck, i want my family to build me an underground pool.

[--zeSto--]

I hear what your saying tesseract.
If the olympics recognizes it as a nation then many people
will be really pissed. However they do have their own flag,
so why shouldn't he be able to carry it.

Also... Isreal has to allow at least one swimmer from palestine on their team.
That's the rule! So what do you suppose they will say when the IOC asks
why they were making an olympic athelet PAY for training at a state owned pool (based on ethnic discrimination)?

[Weapon X]

That’s a shitty editorial. Fucking maroons. Still, Izzy Asper seemed like a cool guy from what I’ve heard of him.

[imported_Tesseract]

I'm Mark Milke, author of Tax Me: I'm Canadian, and that's The Last Word.

:lol:


jesus christ...

[--zeSto--]

Originally posted by Weapon X
fuck, i want my family to build me an underground pool.

not like this one!

It doesn't have a pool lining, only cement sides,
no heat and it's covered by a plastic sheeting.
The cover keeps in the chemical fumes.
It's more ghetto than a jane/finch rec center.

[Ski Mask]

Originally posted by Weapon X
That’s a shitty editorial. Fucking maroons. Still, Izzy Asper seemed like a cool guy from what I’ve heard of him.

I have no respect for his business dealings. Need I remind you of all the editorial shenanigans that happened while he was consolidating his newspaper holdings?

[imported_Tesseract]

Originally posted by Kilo7-
I hear what your saying tesseract.
If the olympics recognizes it as a nation then many people
will be really pissed. However they do have their own flag,
so why shouldn't he be able to carry it.

Also... Isreal has to allow at least one swimmer from palestine on their team.
That's the rule! So what do you suppose they will say when the IOC asks
why they were making an olympic athelet PAY for training at a state owned pool (based on ethnic discrimination)?


He's not able to carry the palestinian flag, imagine that if you mail a letter to someone in palestine and wrtite the adress like:

Mr.Palestinian Dude
yaffa kirtszik 19
Ramallah
PALESTINE

you get the letter returned with a "unidentified location" stamp

His best bet is to run with the israelis, win and protest to the media. Luckily for him fetaland is way anti-sharon, so he'll get a good round of applause that would have my city bombed to ashes right after causing serious diplomatic heat on how we let terrorists like bin ladin destroy the games....you know how it goes;)

[seeking]

the best thing that guy could do, would be to go....and to win, and to climb up on that stand and remove his jacket, revealing a palestinian flag shirt....with a big fucking snake, and a sign that says 'DONT TREAD ON ME'.


seeks/sweet brah!

[--zeSto--]

background on the swimmer:

http://www.ndtv.com/sports/showsports.asp?...ympics&id=14867 (http://www.ndtv.com/sports/showsports.asp?sportname=Report&slug=17+yr+old+Palestinian+eyes+Olympics&id=14867)

http://www.iht.com/articles/124382.html

[Weapon X]

Originally posted by ese
I have no respect for his business dealings. Need I remind you of all the editorial shenanigans that happened while he was consolidating his newspaper holdings?


I don’t know too much about it. You talking about when they bought out Hollinger? It was pretty weird to see someone like Conrad Black work for a Jew. I don’t know too much about Asper’s business dealings. When he died, I heard a lot of stuff on CBC radio call in show that made him out to seem like a class character. It was Leonard Asper who did the consolidation, though, right? Even though yeah, he works for his dad.

[Nekro]

Doesn't sharon trying to pull some folks out of the occupied territories count as a moment of sanity?

[Ski Mask]

I don’t know too much about it. You talking about when they bought out Hollinger? It was pretty weird to see someone like Conrad Black work for a Jew. I don’t know too much about Asper’s business dealings. When he died, I heard a lot of stuff on CBC radio call in show that made him out to seem like a class character. It was Leonard Asper who did the consolidation, though, right? Even though yeah, he works for his dad.


yeah, its was the whole holinger thing. At the outset there were promises of editorial independance for each paper, but shortly after it was a done deal there was a slew of resignations because of intereference from the aspers. Stories getting killed, editorials being replaced with what they wanted to run at the head office, and without telling the staff, just getting it swaped at press time.
Leonard Asper was doing all the work I believe, but you know everything gets run by Izzy. thats how that family worked. I had family who worked for a design firm that did all the print work for global, and it was fucking rediculous. even the most petty shit would have to be run by izzy. everything. every little change in text. It made meeting deadlines very hard.

But he's revered as a god out in winnipeg. and to be fair he's dropped a big chunk of money out there on charities and community projects. They've started judging the designs submitted for his dying legacy, the human rights museum. They got big names working on it. Liebskind, Gehry, Yamamoto. Infact, oddly enough I was just at a building he funded to see a exhibit of 9/11 photos last week. good exhibit.

[Weapon X]

^^ Thanks for the refresher. I remember all that now. In fact, I do believe it was mostly Winnipegers who were calling cbcradio the most that day he died. That’s messed up that Asper was like that. Fucking weird, but I suppose it shows just how he got to wield all that power. That human rights museum sounds really cool. I wonder when it’s gonna be completed? They obviously haven’t picked the architect yet, so not for a while, eh? Watch it be totally dedicated to jooz, and jooz only!

[Sk8trBOI!]

fuck all you anti-semitic assholes....seeking...go fuck yourself and your crew fag status ...

dickhead.

[Sk8trBOI!]

sorry .... i really get heated when i talk about the mid-east. ....


:(



(btw....fuck palestine)

[seeking]

just so you know, you didnt get banned for telling me to fuck off, you got banned for that faggot ass name.

if you're so pro israel, maybe you should go on a suicide bombing campain...in the middle of a forrest, where no one can hear you fall.

[Sk8trBOIpt.2]

first things first...my name is a joke...got it....its fucking a ridicolous joke that you did not get because you live in a humorless world..dickhead...(seeking = dickhead).
Furthermore, you complain and bitch and moan about the "power" isreal holds (6million jews vs. the world minus the US, hahaha) and yet you ban left and right over nothing. and again...i can not fucking believe you did not understand stk8terboi is a joke. goddamn you uppity little bitch. fuck me. fuck alll of you. suck one off. fuck terrorist little bitches. fuck 12ozprophet. and fuck FCUK....what the fuck is that shit...french connection...fucking fuck fuck. :lol:

seeking please ban me so i can no longer go to this peice of shit site. and reply everygoddamn time someone says something and think that i am cool and fuck man...i should be paint....seeking....i want your babies. i just wanted to show you how stupid you are ... stupid. and undoubtably you will reply with some witty response about some shit i said and how its not true and how im such a stupid fag and all this shit but thats okay. ill just send a few carbombs your way and see how you like living with no limbs you cock whore. (cock whore = seeking)



im a fucking loser








































:lol: :lol:

[gfreshsushi]

^^^that little exchange was classic. take THAT, Israel!

[--zeSto--]

once again....

being against Isreali Policy doesn't mean you are against the Jewish people.

just like being against the war in 'oil-land' isn't about being against the USA.

[seeking]

Originally posted by Sk8trBOIpt.2
.
seeking please ban me...im a fucking loser


you're just jealous of my foreskin, jew.



seeks/how's that for a sense of humor.

[heavyLox]

rough and funny.

[FuckWhitey]

[img]http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-israel-275x275.gif'>


FUCK ISRAEL!

[FuckWhitey]

[img]http://images.google.com/images?q=tbn:4v7N5DTGCoAC:www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-israel-275x275.gif (http://www.inminds.co.uk/boycott-israel-275x275.gif)'>

[CIPHER_one]

Originally posted by seeking
you're just jealous of my foreskin, jew.



ha good god...wow

[dojafx]

people need to realise that you can be anti-israel without being anti-semetic
fucking skateboarders

[seeking]

haha, dude shouldnt have questioned my sense of humor.

;)

[dojafx]

never.

except nas is still dope

[non-hetero]

I was SOOO fucking shocked Sharon said he is going to do this. I hope to god he does.

[ctrl+alt+del]

wheres that fuck israel freight?

and i wish I knew more about this, but from what ive learned in class, the palestinian people are getting screwed over. im gonna go see if i can find some more information, but if you guys have anything else that would be a good read, let me know.

[metallix]

[img]http://www.gush-shalom.org/media/pics/vote.gif'>

[ClueTwo]

[img]http://img5.photobucket.com/albums/v15/Cluetwo/12oz/bush_oblivious.jpg'>

I think I am now conviced that Bush and the rest of the world is crazy...

[wiseguy]

fuck israel, when i go to the supermarket and look at the imported felafel mix packets, i buy the arab one, not the israeli one, that is my way of stickin' it to the man.

fuck israel.

[Spike]

Originally posted by ctrl+alt+del
wheres that fuck israel freight?


Right here.

[img]http://www.digitalpose.com/mbr/1/24432/p/454195_1345066312773410220_vl.jpg'>

[--zeSto--]

Spike is what we call a 'collector'.

He has a copy of pretty much every image ever posted on 12oz.
Seriously.... if the cops ever take him, they could make a bio on all of us.

but keep at it. someone needs to have the pics I 'forget to save'

[Spike]

Copy? Nah, that's the original one that was uploaded.

I'm just good at remembering where stuff is, and how to find it quick. I don't have a single non-graffiti/art pic on my whole computer. If I collected stuff please believe I'd have the whole of the Wet T-Shirt Contest archived...

And don't worry, I don't keep proper files on anyone except for Mr. KaySeven... :D

[img]http://www.diesel.com/2002fw/action/images/home/page_00/blackmail.jpg'>

[--zeSto--]

haha... so you dont have a pic of my roadtrip friend?
I'm sure you know where to find it though....

which reminds me... they probably have an update by now.

[Spike]

Oh, what, the lingerie model? I missed whatever was there before the edit, I do have a life outside of the 12oz you know... ;) No seriously.

Anyway, to bring this topic completely back on topic.

[img]http://www.mp3crave.com/template/dobe/picture/limefat.jpg'>
LimeArafat is not pleased

Actually, that's a lie, I have no idea what Arafat thinks. What happened to that guy?

[seeking]

9 months ago an unarmed humanitarian aid worker in israel was shot in the head by an israeli soldier.
he finally died of complications today.
the soldier has admitted to shotting an unarmed civillian, but nothing has been done.

go israel!

[Weapon X]

It’s fucked how I’ve talked to so many Jews that want to go back to Israel to fight in the army. How do their tentacles reach so far? Their food ain’t nothing special, nor is their television shows, I’d imagine. And when was the last time you heard about the Israeli soccer team (except from some you know who)? I understand, these kids are Jews, and I don’t know too much about how their homelife is, or their culture. For real, though – these guys are serious. Yo, Spike, posting a picture of Arafat is anti-semitic, didn’t you know?

[Spike]

Originally posted by Weapon X
Yo, Spike, posting a picture of Arafat is anti-semitic, didn’t you know?

I honestly had no idea. So I guess every TV news channel and newspaper is anti-Semitic when they show his face?

For fuck's sake. I put a lime on that man's head. If you're Jewish and still want to feel offended, feel free, but c'mon. A lime.

[Weapon X]

Limes are anti-semetic.

[seeking]

i wish i was jewish.
then i could talk about how evil israel is and no one could call me anti-semetic.
of course they'd call me a self hating jew, but they would be wrong.
i would be a self loving human being.

religion is nothing to die for.

[im not witty]

dont wish that. then youd be brainwashed to spew anti palestinian rhetoric that they teach little jew kids in temple. like my friend, mofo never set foot in israel, but dont you dare bring that shit up without him raving about wiping out palestinians. its just retarded

[seeking]

in the last 3 years, over 2,200 palestinians have been killed by israeli soldiers. of those, atleast half were unarmed civillians. out of those 1,100 deaths, 72 investigations were oppened, 13 soldiers were indicted, and only 2 were convicted of any wrong doing.


these figures coming from an ISRAELI human rights group.


seeks/laersi kcuf

[metallix]

Originally posted by im not witty
dont wish that. then youd be brainwashed to spew anti palestinian rhetoric that they teach little jew kids in temple. like my friend, mofo never set foot in israel, but dont you dare bring that shit up without him raving about wiping out palestinians. its just retarded

[img]http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.merip.org/palestine-israel_primer/graphics/anti-zionist_jews_demo.jpg'>

Problem is both sides are being manipulated by extremist elements. An oppositional dualism which is purposely created and manipulated.

This is beyond understanding, the bigger picture needs to be reflected. Everyone has their GOd but no God says to go occupy foreign territory. No God says to be a suicide bomber.

[SteveAustin]

so I finally managed to get a Palestinian cabbie.

I tried to get the dude to tell me the uncensored truth about the way things are over there.

Unfortunately the dude was paranoid as all hell.

I almost spent the entire cab ride explaining to him how and why I was on his side.

I then spent the rest of it talking about my lack of faith in the american media.

didn't get a drop of info, managed to piss off my now ex girlfriend, her sister, some chick, my brother and maybe even the cabbie.

[seeking]

your girl broke up with you cause you support palestinians right to be free?
your girl sucks.

'asalam alaikum' to that hoe.


seeks/word up



(sorry, i'm being ridiculous).

[metallix]

[img]http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols2/suicide_bombers.jpg'>

These idiots need to stop also, they are merely creating the own problems.

[SteveAustin]

Originally posted by seeking
your girl broke up with you cause you support palestinians right to be free?
your girl sucks.

you have no idea seeks. thats what I get for dating a bisexual feminist.

although...I believe we left the door open for threesome possibilities. she knows I can pull hotter trim than she can. ;)

getting back on topic...agreed metallix

[imported_Tesseract]

Originally posted by metallix
[img]http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.jewishworldreview.com/cols2/suicide_bombers.jpg'>

These idiots need to stop also, they are merely creating the own problems.

Hey, i'm really not down with terrorism but its all safe talk when you say 'that shit has to stop'. When your family gets blown out you might aswell lose it. Of course same applies for israelis, but then again, they are a legit recognised state.
I'd say that the first move belongs to Israel.


ps. dont get me wrong

[seeking]

if you stick a dog in a cage and refuse to feed it, you can't really say 'i'll let you out as soon as you stop crying about being hungry'.
give palestinians their freedom and they'll stop trying to remind the world that they exist.

"And the men who hold high places
Must be the ones who start
To mold a new reality
Closer to the heart"


seeks/the never ending wisdom of geddy lee

[im not witty]

Originally posted by metallix
[img]http://invis.free.anonymizer.com/http://www.merip.org/palestine-israel_primer/graphics/anti-zionist_jews_demo.jpg'>

Problem is both sides are being manipulated by extremist elements. An oppositional dualism which is purposely created and manipulated.

This is beyond understanding, the bigger picture needs to be reflected. Everyone has their GOd but no God says to go occupy foreign territory. No God says to be a suicide bomber.

i gotcha. trouble is i dont know any palestinian kids, otherwise id have commented on what comes out of there mouths too. anywho.