Wheatpasting 101

[ODS-1]

There have been people asking here and there about wheatpasting, so I'll give the 411.
I nabbed this recipe from some political (Kind of)website.

Mix 3 parts flower, one part cornstarch, boiling that in water, (at proportios of 2 parts starch to 3 parts water.), and cooking it down to a paste. Hurry to stick up posters with it everywhere with it before it dries. You can keep your wheatpaste warm in winter by keeping it in a drink cooler. Try different variations of it until you find your personal favorite.
visit the page at www.crimethinc.com/library/youcan.html (http://www.crimethinc.com/library/youcan.html)
They also have instructions on how to make a mop and a new york style mop also.
I'm going to try to find some different recipes to post in here later.
People should use wheatpasitng more as a way of getting over. It seems to be more accepted by the public too.

[ODS-1]

Here is a recipe that is a little more coherent. taken from www.causecommunications.com/forgetus/posters.html (http://www.causecommunications.com/forgetus/posters.html)


Use white or whole grain whear flour. Mix one part flour (e.g., 4 cups) with 3 parts water (e.g., 12 cups). Cook over medium heat until boiling, stir constantly to remove all lumps. Lower heat and let simmer for about 30 minutes. I never stop stirring. You may have to add water as it is cooking to get a substance that's smooth enough to use like paint but thick enough to stick to walls. Do not burn. Let cool before using.

How to put them up.
Apply a layer of paste to the surface in which you want to apply your poster.
Smooth your poster out over the paste, making sure the corners stick so it''s hard to get down. Some like to add a little paste over the front of the poster for added permanence.

I suggest everyone check out the page as I linked to it. It applies more to political wheatpasing but It's all the same.

[GnomeToys]

A box full of wheat wallpaper paste from the hardware store is only $1.00.

[ODS-1]

Home made is better. because a:
You can make as much of it as you want with what is in your kitchen.
B: I've heard that home made is actually more
permanent.
If you're going to say that then go to the home made marker thread and tell everyone that markers are a dollar at the art store.
Maybe someone will appreciate the time I took typing that for everyone on here to use.

[GnomeToys]

I appreciate it. I'm just saying if you don't already have flour and cornstarch around...


The hardware store stuff is plenty permanent. When I was in the PGI we would use it to strengthen and fireproof 80lb craft paper onto the outside of aerial shells until it was nearly rock hard. Fragments of brown paper coated with this shit last for literally years laying on the ground through rain and everything, after being shot from a mortar at a few hundred fps and blown up in the air, and will retain their strength if they're not wet. Wonk saggin.

[ODS-1]

I guess you people on here don't think wheatpasintg is graf. Oh well, it is anyway.

[FightTheBuff]

of course wheatpasting is a form of graffiti. it IS graffiti. dont trip, i appreciate the time you put into finding that info and writing it up...i'll use that recipe when i get around to making some wheatpaste. :cool:

[imported_b0b]

Bump for a sensible thread.

Seems to be far too many people expecting instant answers or too many people just doing wise cracks and smart comments and not enough people actually contributing (that is in relation to The Yard in genreal). If you thought I am talking about you in this post, I probably am.

[blurstine]

nice ive been doing wheat pasting but nothing this intesnse

[1HalfOfMe]

anyone have any pictures of shit theyve designed?
www.robbieconnal.com (http://www.robbieconnal.com) has some good ones. i think thats how its spelled.

when i went to buy some at home depot, its was like 8.50 for a quart so its prollly cheaper to just make it. and im assuming that after you have used the brush, you have to rinse it out pretty well or the brush will be fucked, this right?

[Sekoe1]

Nice thread-- this is very helpful, I will give it a try.

[ODS-1]

Yeah that Ronnie Connal or however you spell it has some of the coolest posters. I saw a video about his shit. Wheatpaste is better to make yourself because it adds to the adventure and you can make as much as you want. Most homemade recipes I've seen them remain forever.

[1HalfOfMe]

hey odds got any stuff youve created? obviously youve experimented with this, any stuff you wanna share.
here is one i did but it was just an experiment this was just the poster
11x17. and i was reading somewhere that it is better to use thinner paper like that recyled shit becase its harder to get the whole poster to peel off.
[img]http://photos.fotango.com/p/eba00437195f00000002.jpg'>

[ODS-1]

I'll be honest I've never wheatpasted. Never. I just new a few bits about it and thought I would bring it to the surface as a way of getting up. Just get tired of seeing the same ol methods of graffiti. I thought I would share what I knew about it, and others could share what they know about it. I'm glad some of you have utilized new ways of getting over.

[SlipStyle]

wheatpasting is cool!

[timemachine]

word check out the OBEY site it has some info too, that guy is my hero

[gatita]

Im new to wheatpasting, so to all you regulars:

What is the best paper to print/write on to paste up?

-Christina

[ODS-1]

Just regualr paper. The kind that you make your copies on.

[rinse]

Originally posted by timemachine
word check out the OBEY site it has some info too, that guy is my hero
who's your hero, shepard fairey?
my goodness...












your right though, that guy is a master of wheatpasting propaganda & he's got a nice web site, which also contains some good links.
www.obeygiant.com (http://www.obeygiant.com)

[wiseguy]

what do you keep your wheatpaste in while out sticking posters up? i dont imagine that a bucket of wheatpase would be that easy to carry around, it is fairly conspicuous as well, could you put it in some sort of bottle? or would it be too gluggy and thick? how much is actually required to affix an A4 size poster to a wall?

[imported_freeque]

Taken from BBC News Online (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/3805171.stm)

Top music chiefs are spared ASBOs

Sony Music chiefs have escaped Anti Social Behaviour Orders (ASBO) after promising not to commission any more illegal fly posting.

North London's Camden Council took the unprecedented action after receiving more than 1,000 residents' complaints.

But on Monday, action against Catherine Davies and Jo Headland was withdrawn at Highbury Corner Magistrates' Court.

Another music company, BMG, could still face prosecution as it has not pledged to stop ordering fly posting.

Since the summonses were issued two weeks ago, fly-posting has largely dried up in the borough.
The companies have previously denied that they were involved in illegal fly-posting

The council claims that Sony and BMG jointly save more than £8m in advertising costs through fly posting on everything from shop hoardings to pillar-boxes in the borough.

The council estimates that dealing with illegal fly posting costs the Borough's taxpayers around £250,000 a year.

Fly posting has been defined as causing "harassment, alarm or distress" - the criteria required to gain an order.

Grime and Crime

And Richard Gruet, Camden Council's head of litigation, said after Monday's hearing at Highbury Corner Magistrates' Court: "Anti-social behaviour is anti-social behaviour, whoever engages in it.

"We have won an undertaking from Sony to the effect that they will not engage in fly-posting any more in this country. We welcome that.

"But I think it is a little unfortunate that BMG, who were given the opportunity to do the same undertaking in the same terms, have not done so - that gives us little choice but to pursue them in the courts very shortly."

A summons against BMG executive Lucy Handsford was withdrawn only because she is leaving the company in a week's time.

Mr Gruet said he had also spoken to Islington, Hastings and Greater Manchester Councils who are interested in taking similar tough action because there are close links between grime and crime levels.

Additonal BBC commentary, copied from an article similar in content to the one above:

Dame Jane Roberts, leader of Camden Council, said: "Fly posting is a similar sort of behaviour to graffiti, in that it involves the illegal and non-approved use of property, degrading that property and making an area seem uncared for and an unpleasant place to be.

"Fly posting has a detrimental impact on the value of property and contributes to people's fear of crime and, as a result, to actual criminal behaviour, which is why we are seeking to outlaw it."

A spokesman for BMG said they would be contesting the ASBO and a spokesman for Sony Music UK said they had no comment to make.

The companies will attend a court hearing at Highbury Corner Magistrates' Court on 14 June to determine if the order is served on them.

________________________

freeque's commentary:

Interesting to note that the Sony Record Execs are spared an ASBO after promising not to engage in flyposting again.

Why is the same courtesy not extended to graffiti artists, who have been slapped with the orders after being convicted for a first offence?

This smacks of double-standards.

[Krabb]

There was a lot of wheatpasting around the time of the FTAA Conferances here in Miami. Mostly protesting against it.

[Gunm]

Originally posted by wiseguy
what do you keep your wheatpaste in while out sticking posters up? i dont imagine that a bucket of wheatpase would be that easy to carry around, it is fairly conspicuous as well, could you put it in some sort of bottle? or would it be too gluggy and thick? how much is actually required to affix an A4 size poster to a wall?

Yeah, i've been thinking about this a lot as well. if anyone can answer Wiseguy's question, it would be greatly appreciated

I've been wanting to do some smaller scale wheatpastes (not on the level of posters but smaller standard letter sized paper formats)

[CrazyLazy]

I'm gonna share a little secret with you all. Ok ok ok, I've walked around with a bucket and brush and posters before. But heres the real secret, no wheat paste. Use this spray adhesive called "super 77" trust me on that one.

[Gunm]

Originally posted by CrazyLazy
I'm gonna share a little secret with you all. Ok ok ok, I've walked around with a bucket and brush and posters before. But heres the real secret, no wheat paste. Use this spray adhesive called "super 77" trust me on that one. ha ha, isn't that cheating? where can you cop some?

[CrazyLazy]

Originally posted by LENS
ha ha, isn't that cheating? where can you cop some?

hardware store. walgreens. every where. i think 3M makes it.

[Henlett]

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just lookin for a few helpfull hints...i done these last night and when i went back for photos they were still a bit "gooey" but it was raining.

i used normal wallpaper paste from the shop and i aint sure if this was a good idea. I'm not sure what the difference is with wheat paste and others, does wheat paste does it get slimy again when it rains, or is the slimyness just down to my buying shit paste?

just lookin for some helpfull feedback, thanks a lot.

[DEFCON2.0]

^^Ive done some pasteing and im gonna say its was prolly alittle of both it is better ta use real wheatpaste but you should also start with a dryer surface (ex. not in the rain) practice makes perfect go out a experiment...^^:king: Pome1eR 2k4

[ODS-1]

Originally posted by Henlett
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[img]http://img16.exs.cx/img16/5714/small9.jpg'>

[img]http://img16.exs.cx/img16/4403/small10.jpg'>

[img]http://img16.exs.cx/img16/958/small11.jpg'>

just lookin for a few helpfull hints...i done these last night and when i went back for photos they were still a bit "gooey" but it was raining.

i used normal wallpaper paste from the shop and i aint sure if this was a good idea. I'm not sure what the difference is with wheat paste and others, does wheat paste does it get slimy again when it rains, or is the slimyness just down to my buying shit paste?

just lookin for some helpfull feedback, thanks a lot. I suggest making your own paste (more fun anyway) and not doing it in the rain. Although your posters (which are nice!) are small enough to be on a sticker.

[blahh]

Originally posted by CrazyLazy
I'm gonna share a little secret with you all. Ok ok ok, I've walked around with a bucket and brush and posters before. But heres the real secret, no wheat paste. Use this spray adhesive called "super 77" trust me on that one.

what about dap "spray n' glue"?? i happen to have some of that sitting around

[ODS-1]

Originally posted by wiseguy
what do you keep your wheatpaste in while out sticking posters up? i dont imagine that a bucket of wheatpase would be that easy to carry around, it is fairly conspicuous as well, could you put it in some sort of bottle? or would it be too gluggy and thick? how much is actually required to affix an A4 size poster to a wall? What I was thinking is get and old messenger bag (or any other type of sidebag. Then line it with some tarp, and pour the wheatpaste in. Keep the bag upright. You may want to clean it out when you get back to base though, so the two sides of the bag don't stick together.

Does anyone know how to clean wheatpaste out of a roller?

[holycrapRUN]

fuck wheat pasting my mom is always like eat your breakfast and im like fuck u mom buy somethin good like cap'n crunch and that slut is like 'EAT UR WEATIES" dumb bitch

[FightTheBuff]

get the fuck outta here

[yeaaaah baby]

Originally posted by holycrapRUN
please ban me

[rexinfx]

holy crap run that was one of the dumbest things youve ever said. just give up

[FightTheBuff]

Originally posted by holycrapRUN
please ban me!

i agree...

[doesntcrush]

wooo wooooo weat pastin is the jam. me and fight the buff had our first experience with it today. shit bouta get into that shit!!!

[FightTheBuff]

fuck yea that shit was hella fun

[CrazyLazy]

Originally posted by doesntcrush
wooo wooooo weat pastin is the jam. me and fight the buff had our first experience with it today. shit bouta get into that shit!!!

I saw the pics. You guys gotta remember to get the corners. The corners are very important.

edit*
Looked good though.

[FightTheBuff]

thanks

[Gunm]

Originally posted by ODS-1
What I was thinking is get and old messenger bag (or any other type of sidebag. Then line it with some tarp, and pour the wheatpaste in. Keep the bag upright. You may want to clean it out when you get back to base though, so the two sides of the bag don't stick together.
? nice idea but it screams "guaranteed mess"

[cdz]

nice thread. this has been my first post in some time, and advice on things like this are always invaluable. thanks for posting.

looks like the main site STILL isn't up. i met some of the people who run this site at scribble in 2002, and they said that this shit would be up and running soon. haha. like two years ago. i think it's a long running joke.

[thefarm]

[img]http://i.myspace.com/43/78/2418734/12582842_l.JPG'>
[img]http://i.myspace.com/43/78/2418734/12582824_l.JPG'>
[img]http://pics.fotango.com/pictures/0400629769_001P.jpg'>
this one isn't finished. will post some street fliks later

[Gunm]

Can anyone share their experiences using spray adhesive versus wheat paste?

Which worked better/had better staying power?

[OGchinabanks]

spray adhesive is toy.

home made wheatpaste is OG. andddddd way better. mix in a little resin and resin hardner and it is impossiable to rip down. but dont go out and get sloppy like every other pasteaholic

and is it just me or is anyone finally fed up with shepards decisions on where he sells his product, i mean it was a heartbreak when he starting making so much clothing product, but he now sells obey in surfshops. that is LOWWWWWWW.

[Gunm]

Originally posted by OGchinabanks

and is it just me or is anyone finally fed up with shepards decisions on where he sells his product, i mean it was a heartbreak when he starting making so much clothing product, but he now sells obey in surfshops. that is LOWWWWWWW.

Go discuss it on Third Rail genius. this is the WHEATPASTE thread...not the I'M PISSED MY IDOL "SOLD-OUT" thread

[CrazyLazy]

Originally posted by OGchinabanks
spray adhesive is toy.

I'm down with the spray adhesive. I find it a good alternative to walking down the street with a heavy bucket full of wheat paste and a big brush. But hey, I always got love for gettin' my hands dirty with paste. I love it all.

[CrazyLazy]

Originally posted by LENS
Can anyone share their experiences using spray adhesive versus wheat paste?

Which worked better/had better staying power?

Spray adhesive is cleaner. With wheat paste, you usually end up getting it all over your hands. Then by the end of the night, you got soem of the crustiest hands you can imagine. But, wheat pasting is funner. You get the whole experience with actualy paste and a brush. Or what ever tool you prefer other than a brush.

[OGchinabanks]

Originally posted by LENS
Go discuss it on Third Rail genius. this is the WHEATPASTE thread...not the I'M PISSED MY IDOL "SOLD-OUT" thread





easy lens. i was just talking about how paste is a good and spray is for beginners.

and since were talking about pasting, shep came to mind. he is amazing at street art and getting up. i just think the clothing went a little far. and the wrong people wear it.

but ya i agree with the dude about caring around a bucket of paste, it does suck. but for street hits like during the day you can get a ceral tuberwear conatiner with a cap on it at the 99cent store and a regualy homepaste brush will fit in it. you can put it in a backpack and it wont spill. also bring a rag to whipe your hands/brush and protect your posters. messenger bags work the best. have fun : )

[Gunm]

^^
aight aight, my bad...it was lousy day at work yesterday. Someone had to pay! :D

Thanks for the tips about wheatpaste cannisters and yeah, Shepard is kinda putting himself out there now...exclusive OBEY clothing? Oh man.

[iloveboxcars]

Originally posted by OGchinabanks
easy lens. i was just talking about how paste is a good and spray is for beginners.

and since were talking about pasting, shep came to mind. he is amazing at street art and getting up. i just think the clothing went a little far. and the wrong people wear it.

but ya i agree with the dude about caring around a bucket of paste, it does suck. but for street hits like during the day you can get a ceral tuberwear conatiner with a cap on it at the 99cent store and a regualy homepaste brush will fit in it. you can put it in a backpack and it wont spill. also bring a rag to whipe your hands/brush and protect your posters. messenger bags work the best. have fun : )

if he made his shit just for writers then he wouldnt be making any money off of it. When you make clothing, no matter what culture you are trying to "use", you want to make it so it appeals to the masses. If you don't understand this then reply when you aren't 15.

[OGchinabanks]

Originally posted by iloveboxcars
if he made his shit just for writers then he wouldnt be making any money off of it. When you make clothing, no matter what culture you are trying to "use", you want to make it so it appeals to the masses. If you don't understand this then reply when you aren't 15.


you said it best brotherman. he is doing it for the money now. so looks like he is a sell out. but his street skills are amazing and i just wish obey would of stayed a little more underground, or sold in stratigic stores, unlike him selling it in surfshops.

but ya your right. if you wanna make money you gotta get it everywhere. looks like shep is doing it for the money : (

but he kinda deserves it. after more then 10 years of putting in street time he is finally making money.

[Gunm]

Another question....

is there a particular sort of paper I can use for my posters that tends to have a longer life than others? I want something with maximum lifespan

[OGchinabanks]

LENS.

the thinner the better brotherman.

and its all about the paste. its gotta be thick so the adhesive in the paste bunches up and works. unlike waterdown paste that tends to let the edges peel.

if you have any questions or what the 411 i know about pasting, i got a screen name. pasteanddestroy im usally on.

[Gunm]

excellent, thanks for the pointers.

I don't have AIM here at work but I'll hit you up sometime convenient and we can collaborate.

[OGchinabanks]

LENS.

do you have family or are from orange county?

i was skating the pool at vans at the block and when i was leaving i saw a LENS thorwy. like not postal, black sticker maybe even, but i also saw a numbers throwy, like upside down 7 and a backwards 3 and a n and a 5. i think it was LENS.

?

[OGchinabanks]

this is some of my friends stuff.
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i have no idea how to post actually pictures. i only know the link way.
sorry : (

[OGchinabanks]

whoa. i take that back. I NOW KNOW HOW TO POST PICTURES : )

the macchio gets mad ups. i talked to the guy got the web adress and it blew my mind.

[img]http://themacchio.net/Portals/9779de1e-0845-4621-9756-ffb2da57fa38/gallery/Streets/15.jpg'>

[img]http://themacchio.net/Portals/9779de1e-0845-4621-9756-ffb2da57fa38/gallery/Streets/macchio11.jpg'>

[img]http://themacchio.net/Portals/9779de1e-0845-4621-9756-ffb2da57fa38/gallery/SF%20Streets/joinus.jpg'>

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mad ups.

[OGchinabanks]

do the math. they get up. heres some flicks.

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[img]http://www.dothemath.tv/bridgebust.jpeg'>

and this is my friend with some lines by the macchio. longbeach.

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i will stop posting shit untill i get my stuff on a jpeg page.

[OGchinabanks]

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shibby. i dont know if this works. but this is a good bomb

[Gunm]

Originally posted by OGchinabanks
LENS.

do you have family or are from orange county?

i was skating the pool at vans at the block and when i was leaving i saw a LENS thorwy. like not postal, black sticker maybe even, but i also saw a numbers throwy, like upside down 7 and a backwards 3 and a n and a 5. i think it was LENS.

? I have a sister in L.A. but that's about it.

No, it wasn't me. I know of a few other Lens' running around down south. I'm gonna have to crush'em one of these days.

Good wheatpaste flicks.

[flippingreat]

i deffinatly liking the wheat pasting, how do u make big posters though, i wanna make a color one, drawing it myself would take to long...

[Gunm]

Originally posted by flippingreat
i deffinatly liking the wheat pasting, how do u make big posters though, i wanna make a color one, drawing it myself would take to long...

Kinkos if you have money to waste

Silkscreen if you're O.G.

Or, just hit the glass peeezeee, grab a giant notebook and start drawing

[test]

I know it's not quite wheatpaste, but has anyone tried evaporated milk? I have read before and heard from a friend that simply brushing it over a piece of paper pressed against a wall (best on cement and grainy surfaces) is pretty much garunteed infinite post till they pressure wash it. has anyone tried this, or maybe put evaprated milk in their whaetpaste recipe?

[Gunm]

evaporated milk? I put that shit in my thai ice tea. It's hella sweet....you'd attract pests and that shit would probably smell weird giving people more incentive to take the wheatpaste down.

No need to fuck with the equation...wheatpaste is good enough for all intents and purposes.

[flippingreat]

Originally posted by LENS
Kinkos if you have money to waste

Silkscreen if you're O.G.

Or, just hit the glass peeezeee, grab a giant notebook and start drawing

erm is that in america because im from england :S
you got a website link?

cheers

[ODS-1]

Yeah kinkos is a chain corporate print shop in america. They apparently used to be easy to scam free copies but they got new machines and you can't do that anymore.

[Gunm]

Originally posted by ODS-1
Yeah kinkos is a chain corporate print shop in america. They apparently used to be easy to scam free copies but they got new machines and you can't do that anymore.

FUCK yeah it used to be easy to scam them. I used to run off with hundreds of copies and only pay for maybe two or three. The new system they have changed all that....::sigh::

but yeah, silkscreen your own for that urban look and feel to it. Paying someone to do it for you (unless it's a friend who can give you a fat hook up) is a waste of cash

[test]

I am not familiar with silkscreening; any how-to's about the process?
And yeah wasn't really sure with the evaporated milk shit, jsut read about it on some "anarchy" website as a way to stick rude flyers on the walls of your school. One friend told me it works.

[buhue]

WHEN YOU ARE DONE MAKING IT WHAT IS THE BEST THING TO KEEP IT IN SO IT DOESNT DRY

[Gunm]

Originally posted by test
I am not familiar with silkscreening; any how-to's about the process?
And yeah wasn't really sure with the evaporated milk shit, jsut read about it on some "anarchy" website as a way to stick rude flyers on the walls of your school. One friend told me it works.

Hmmm, it wouldn't hurt to try but it's really thick, gluey stuff. It's bascially milk that has been reduced to the consistency of cold molasses.
Obviously you'd have to dilute it a bit but hmmmm.....give it a try and let us know how it worked out for you.

[OGchinabanks]

PUT WHEATPASTE IN A BUCKET. IT WILL NEVER DRY UP IF THERES A LOT OF IT. BUT IT WILL WATER DOWN AND START SMELLING LIKE CHINA TOWN IF YOU DONT USE IT WITHIN LIKEA FEW DAY.

AND BIG POSTERS. FUCK KINKOS AND FUCK SILKSCREENING.

PROJECT YOUR IMAGE ONTO A WALL, GO GET BULK ROLLS OF BIG ASS PAPER, TAPE THE PAPER ON THE WALL, TRACE YOUR IMAGE WITH SHARPIE THEN FILL IN WITH PAINT. YOU CAN GOOOOOO BIG.

AND IF YOU WANT TO GO TO KINKOS, DIVIDE YOUR IMAGE INTO 4, PRINT ONE OF EACH BIG THEN GLUE STICK TOGTHER TO MAKE ONE BIG ASS POSTER. IVE GONE 10 FEET. BUT MY FRIEND PAINTED IT FOR ME. AND IVE GONE LIKE 8 FEET AT KINKOS. WHEN YOU MAKE BIG PRINTS AT KINKOS YOU DONT HAVE TO USE A CARD. JUST PRINT YOUR POSTERS, FOLD UP A FEW AND PUT EM IN YOUR BACKPACK AND JUST PAY FOR A COUPLE.

CHEERS.

[yeaaaah baby]

Originally posted by LENS
FUCK yeah it used to be easy to scam them. I used to run off with hundreds of copies and only pay for maybe two or three. The new system they have changed all that....::sigh::
word to that. me and my boy got about 500 copies and paid like 25 cents.

[chumbawumba]

wheat pasting is chill.. just take your time and dont make a mess.. its barely illegal. just take it down if you have a run in with the pigs. tell them its an advertisement for your friends band thats playing a show soon. remember to put a layer of paste over the poster after you stick it up, too. just out of curiousity, do you guys use brushes or rollers? i use both, brushes to stick the poster up and then a roller to go over it, shit comes out niiice. peaceo.

[OGchinabanks]

wheatpasting is taking over. but wont ever be as big as graf. graf is louder then bombs. but i wish pasting was more professionaly done, like kids with common sense. too much bull shit on posters. and everything is sideway and on electrical boxes. take it to the next level. ROOF TOPS. BILLBOARDS. DITCHES. FREEWAY PASS. get creative. and keep it straight no sideways shit. and try to line up shit. thats always a plus. and dont vandalize. dont be pasting on peoples fucking cars and shit, you can hit trucks and what not, but dont go to stores and paste on the windows. only if its shut down. like graf. be neat.

its all about brushes. i really dont like rollers.

[ODS-1]

But you can paste on starbucks and gap windows.

[ODS-1]

Originally posted by OGchinabanks
PUT WHEATPASTE IN A BUCKET. IT WILL NEVER DRY UP IF THERES A LOT OF IT. BUT IT WILL WATER DOWN AND START SMELLING LIKE CHINA TOWN IF YOU DONT USE IT WITHIN LIKEA FEW DAY.

AND BIG POSTERS. FUCK KINKOS AND FUCK SILKSCREENING.

PROJECT YOUR IMAGE ONTO A WALL, GO GET BULK ROLLS OF BIG ASS PAPER, TAPE THE PAPER ON THE WALL, TRACE YOUR IMAGE WITH SHARPIE THEN FILL IN WITH PAINT. YOU CAN GOOOOOO BIG.

AND IF YOU WANT TO GO TO KINKOS, DIVIDE YOUR IMAGE INTO 4, PRINT ONE OF EACH BIG THEN GLUE STICK TOGTHER TO MAKE ONE BIG ASS POSTER. IVE GONE 10 FEET. BUT MY FRIEND PAINTED IT FOR ME. AND IVE GONE LIKE 8 FEET AT KINKOS. WHEN YOU MAKE BIG PRINTS AT KINKOS YOU DONT HAVE TO USE A CARD. JUST PRINT YOUR POSTERS, FOLD UP A FEW AND PUT EM IN YOUR BACKPACK AND JUST PAY FOR A COUPLE.

CHEERS. Yes Chinatown does smell bad.

[flippingreat]

will the colors smudge when u wheat paste over the paper??

[ODS-1]

Not if you use photocopying ink. If you run your poster off from your home printer it might.
But on photocopied posters it won't

[flippingreat]

i tried screen printing/silk screening today, was really good but my stencil was quite thick so it didnt work as good, i looked at other stencils and they had used like a masking tape texture kinda paper, i also found quite alot of ink is wasted in this process aswell, so when i try again im going to use a thinner texture with a stencil on

[OGchinabanks]

does anyone have any flicks of posters they have bombed? like links to them or send them to my email. i wanna see if any of you got mad ups or if your just another toy ass paster kid. lol.

too many bad posters/people pasting.

[ODS-1]

Don't talk shit in my thread.

[OGchinabanks]

lol. ya thats not shit talking. just wanna know if anyone has any flicks. and just putting out in the open that there is a lot of toy posters in sf. just like graffiti. theres toy. then theres sav.

sorry if i offended anyone. : )

[killnshit]

so do you just draw on a piece of paper and then paste it up?

[flippingreat]

lol yes chap,

[ODS-1]

Originally posted by killnshit@Oct 4 2004, 03:36 PM
so do you just draw on a piece of paper and then paste it up?
Quoted post

Or you can design an image and then make massive amounts of photocopies if you want a more clear image, which is good if you want to have something with a message that's easy to read.

[Chance Em Redy]

Eh so what kind of paste do you guys use?

hell, just use super glue already.

:haha:

[killnshit]

so, if you have enough time to paste on a wall and stick a piece of paper on it then why dont you just do a quick throwie?
lol i still dont get the concept i guess ill have to try it :huh2:

[test]

You can print out and photocopy a massive amount of exact copies of an image that can be of any amount of detail. Some people are not so talented with a can of paint as to put up a nice arrangemnt of graphics and texts. Look at some of the flicks people posted on the last couple pages, some jsut owuldn't be practical to do with paint. Wheatpaste can get mad ups, quick. It's more like posting a flyer.

[killnshit]

ok I get it now

[2na]

What about racking super adhesive?

[flippingreat]

but racking super adhesive is not wheat pasting is it?

[cubeface]

I love wheatpasting.

For my recipe, I always add sugar. And bits of Elmer's glue. I've found that the paste isn't as great when you mix rice flour and wheat flour. Stay to one type of flour. You have to boil it for a fucking long ass time. And keep stirring. It gets boring, but it's worth it

Also, to carry wheatpaste, I got a big coffee cup, which holds enough for about 30 posters. And a brush Ic ant fit in my back pocket. Wheatpasting isn't fun if your pants aren't covered in that shit.

[nobody97]

Wheat pasting has tobe the best form of graff for new rackers. Hard ware stores are a bitch( in certain cities.) Note to toys: Harware stores aren't the only places that carry cans. But who can't get flour and starch from a bodega. its easy to get packs of paper, & if your still in school then you have no excuse paying for copies.

[ares]

I've had nothing but bad luck with that Super 77 adheasive. I prefer homemade.

As far as carrying it around, it depends on the size of the posters your putting up. If its small, I fill a water bottle or two with paste, if it's a bigger poster I'll fill large ice cream containers. I always double bag the brush, and wheatpaste when I'm finished. Having half a litre of wheatpaste spill in your backpack sucks.

[Gunm]

Originally posted by OGchinabanks@Oct 1 2004, 05:35 AM
does anyone have any flicks of posters they have bombed?
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Uhm....My "friend" is gonna have some real soon. Stay tuned to this thread.

[ares]

http://bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/gallery/albums/userpics/10020/IM001496.JPG

http://bombingscience.com/graffitiforum/gallery/albums/userpics/10020/IM001629.JPG

[ODS-1]

Shit those are awesome.

[crazyhomie67]

alright so you just photo copie the image and the ink wont bleed if it rains?

[ares]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v171/iregrettommorow/randomism/IM001569.jpg

Some people are retarded.

[Gunm]

Originally posted by crazyhomie67@Oct 16 2004, 01:14 AM
alright so you just photo copie the image and the ink wont bleed if it rains?
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right....
as said before, you can just run off mad photocopies but if you're o.g. as fuck, you'll silkscreen all your own prints but that's a discussion for another time.

Placement of wheatpastes is of course, up to the poster. My friend likes putting them in places where they're not as likely to get exposure to the elements thereby ensuring an extended lifespan.

However, the best method to ensure max lifespan is to, of course, apply a layer of wheatpaste over your print after you stick it up. Not only does this seal it to an extent, it makes it one motherfucker of a thing to peel off of a surface. SOme OBEY and Upper Playground wheatpastes I've seen in SF have been out on exposed ass ledges and buildings and have ran a good 1-2 years. Longer if in a sheltered spot.

[MANOWAR]

to ensure that punk ass dorks don't rip your shit down try sprinkling a little bit of broken glass in your batch....i have not tryed it yet but i plan to i heard it works. So, it sounds like a keen idea to me

[test]

dont use safety glass! that seems a little bit way too fuckin extreme. if your poster looks cool no one will want to tear it down, except maybe the owners of he property, who have every right to do so... if you wheatpaste good they'd prolly need a scrub of a sort to get it down anyway, and that'd make your glass worthless. try it though, i'm curius to hear about how that goes. peace

[Gunm]

Originally posted by MANOWAR@Oct 20 2004, 07:21 AM
to ensure that punk ass dorks don't rip your shit down try sprinkling a little bit of broken glass in your batch....i have not tryed it yet but i plan to i heard it works. So, it sounds like a keen idea to me
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I rig my wheatpastes so that when someone tries to take them down, their fingers get cut off. Shhhh, it's a secret.

What next...land mines around your pieces so the buff squad/toys/rival crews gets their feet blown off when they step to your stuff?

Why not just hire a sniper to shoot folks that get too close?

Broken glass....jesus.

[ODS-1]

Pieces aren't supposed to last forever. Just put up so many that they forget to buff them all.

[OGchinabanks]

Originally posted by ODS-1@Oct 25 2004, 11:14 PM
Pieces aren't supposed to last forever. Just put up so many that they forget to buff them all.
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no need to mix stuff into your wheatpaste. that is cheating. you gotta just buy good stuff. or make your paste super thick. and LENS i saw a postal cut out sticker on market today. only 1. but it was cool to see it.

i dident get any posters up in the city today. but tons of postal stickers. has anyone see the 10 foot spaze mat really thin long poster on market and haight??

[ODS-1]

Originally posted by OGchinabanks+Oct 26 2004, 05:23 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (OGchinabanks - Oct 26 2004, 05:23 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-ODS-1@Oct 25 2004, 11:14 PM
Pieces aren't supposed to last forever. Just put up so many that they forget to buff them all.
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no need to mix stuff into your wheatpaste. that is cheating. you gotta just buy good stuff. or make your paste super thick. and LENS i saw a postal cut out sticker on market today. only 1. but it was cool to see it.

i dident get any posters up in the city today. but tons of postal stickers. has anyone see the 10 foot spaze mat really thin long poster on market and haight??
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[/b][/quote]
If you slice up stickers (this may not work for wheatpastes) after you stick them up, it makes them into a bunch of little stickers and it's a pain in the ass to try to rip down. I tried it.

[OGchinabanks]

all you need is ALL IN ONE brand wheatpaste. or teke bond by goldenharvest. or make your own. if you run in sf with posters be a g and do smalls ones during the day and run your big ones at night while you skate down market with your bucket(get a cap) and a broom with a extension and a backpack or messenger full of folded biggies. go with a friend to watch out and give you boost up to the ladders and your good as gold.

fuck worrying about having your wheatpaste sticker and cutting your stickers. keep it reallllll.

[OGchinabanks]

flicks.

[OGchinabanks]

Originally posted by OGchinabanks@Oct 27 2004, 01:17 AM
flicks.
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[OGchinabanks]

Originally posted by OGchinabanks+Oct 27 2004, 01:18 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (OGchinabanks - Oct 27 2004, 01:18 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-OGchinabanks@Oct 27 2004, 01:17 AM
flicks.
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[/b][/quote]

[OGchinabanks]

stormy

[OGchinabanks]

torn.

[kleur]

about wheat pasting ive just started this poster thing and i was woundering if u can keep ur wheat paste stuff from going off coz i made a huge batch and now its like all mouldy lol, do u freeze it or put it in the fridge

[cubeface]

Originally posted by kleur@Oct 27 2004, 08:00 AM
about wheat pasting ive just started this poster thing and i was woundering if u can keep ur wheat paste stuff from going off coz i made a huge batch and now its like all mouldy lol, do u freeze it or put it in the fridge
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Once you're done with the paste, you can reheat it in a pot to sterilize it if you will. After that, keep it in the fridge. I find it best to just make a new batch for each night I use it.

[dear sas]

[/quote]
If you slice up stickers (this may not work for wheatpastes) after you stick them up, it makes them into a bunch of little stickers and it's a pain in the ass to try to rip down. I tried it.
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[/quote]

yeah, iv heard about this before. after you put your shit up, stickers or wheatpaste get a sharp ass razor and slice a bucha diff liunes through it. this way they wont be able to just peel your genius off. i havnt tried it with wheatpaste, it might make it krinkle up. someone tell me how it goes...

[OGchinabanks]

If you slice up stickers (this may not work for wheatpastes) after you stick them up, it makes them into a bunch of little stickers and it's a pain in the ass to try to rip down. I tried it.
Quoted post
[/quote]

yeah, iv heard about this before. after you put your shit up, stickers or wheatpaste get a sharp ass razor and slice a bucha diff liunes through it. this way they wont be able to just peel your genius off. i havnt tried it with wheatpaste, it might make it krinkle up. someone tell me how it goes...
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[/quote]




JUST PUT UP FUCKING POSTERS. DONT WORRY ABOUT SLICING OR DICING, JUST GET UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP. YOU DONT NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THAT TRASH. WHEATPASTE IS BRUTAL AND CAN TAKE ANYTHING, EXCEPT RAIN, THAT SHIT WILL RELOOSEN THE WHEATPASTE AND PEOPLE CAN PEEL IT RIGHT OFF. OTHER THEN THAT. ITS UNSTOPPABLE

[Chance Em Redy]

Slicing up your artwork?

Hmm. Kinda seems off there.

Best solution- Keep putting more up.

Gets ripped down.

More up.

Simple.

[dear sas]

some flicks iv either taken or saved on my comp

[dear sas]

a couple more

[dear sas]

.asdfad

[dear sas]

well thats all the room i got

[docs]

can you get big ass posters printed anywhere or you have to deal with 8x10 sheets?

[FightTheBuff]

Originally posted by OGchinabanks@Oct 28 2004, 09:46 PM
JUST PUT UP FUCKING POSTERS. DONT WORRY ABOUT SLICING OR DICING, JUST GET UPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPPP. YOU DONT NEED TO WORRY ABOUT THAT TRASH. WHEATPASTE IS BRUTAL AND CAN TAKE ANYTHING, EXCEPT RAIN, THAT SHIT WILL RELOOSEN THE WHEATPASTE AND PEOPLE CAN PEEL IT RIGHT OFF. OTHER THEN THAT. ITS UNSTOPPABLE
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yea fuck slicing your posters/stickers. thats rediculous

[fi5e]

I've been printing on 8.5 x 11 on a home printer and tiling them up with pretty good results. An armature mistake with this is to leave the white margins. This looks like trash, get a straight edge and an exacto blade and trim your shit. It takes time but it's worth it.

The problems I've been having is that inks from home printers tend to bleed after it rains. I like the ideas posted earlier about photo copying, but for color it's just too expensive. Ive been treating my CPU prints with 3M spray sealants and letting them dry for 24 hours before pasting up. This hasn't been working as well as I was hoping. I've had better luck wheat pasting just the backside and edges, and then spraying the whole thing down with spray shalack after it's up. If anyone else has tips for keeping home CPU prints from bleeding I'd love to hear them.

Here is some current shit I'm putting up, it's a composite of the same letter by different writers found in Manhattan:
http://ni9e.com/blog_images/s_02_walkby.jpg

[test]

that's a pretty dope poster fi5e. cclever idea. i don't know about how to protect the 3m stuff. just do black and whites? color em yourself... I dunno. you could try that chap lamination alternative stuff. i forgot what it's called, but it's like sheets of waxy transparent cover and you peel it off and it's sticky as fuck on one side and you really carefully place your paper onto it smoothely. lol or coat the shit in scotch tape. you could try pastig it up and then pressing the clear paper on it, that might help stick it to the wall also...

[test]

http://www.officeworld.com/Worlds-Biggest-...on/299391/04Q4/ (http://www.officeworld.com/Worlds-Biggest-Selection/299391/04Q4/) here is one
http://www.office-supplies.us.com/subcategory_553.htm here is another. those should work well enough, looks like you'll be paying close to $50 for a 600 inch roll that's 24 inches wide. I guess that's good for about 100 sheets of 8.5x11 inch paper if you cut the roll down the middle. You can get packs of precut also. I'd suggest saving that stuff for real nice colored ones with good spots you're sute won't get buffed real quick. Hope that helps. Bye the way what is shalak?

[SkeleKashe]

will wheatpaste go over clear packing taped images?

[OGchinabanks]

Originally posted by dear sas@Oct 30 2004, 09:39 PM
some flicks iv either taken or saved on my comp
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the spazmat skull phone. this guy runs posters and big adhesive paper stickers. he works with volcom so that is horriable. but he gets up.

he is up in ny la oc sf. all around.

but fuck that. im gonna take over in the poster world. hahahhahahaha i wish.

[OGchinabanks]

Originally posted by docs@Nov 3 2004, 02:20 AM
can you get big ass posters printed anywhere or you have to deal with 8x10 sheets?
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kinkos can get them pretty big. around 6 feet. print your image on to a 8 1/2 by 11, with the image taking up the whole paper, then make that into a 100% 11 by 17 at kinkos, then run that 11 by 17 into the big copier and make it 400% and it will run out a print around 6 feet. there kinda sketchy. im telling all you pasteaholics, you gotta get a projector and project the image on the wall of your house, then buy bulk paper, then just tape the paper up to the wall, and trace the image that is being projected and then fill it in with paint. you can go so big with that.

[OGchinabanks]

this is like a 7 foot poster. printed at kinkos. but it was pieced together in 4s. cut the image into 4 then made a big poster for each piece.

[FightTheBuff]

savage

[Lovethyneighbor]

RICTER

[OGchinabanks]

Originally posted by Lovethyneighbor@Nov 10 2004, 12:51 AM
RICTER
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shhhhhhhh. lets keep that a secret homie. lol

[ares]

OGchinabanks, keep posting flicks.

[OGchinabanks]

Originally posted by ares@Nov 17 2004, 04:44 PM
OGchinabanks, keep posting flicks.
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few more. mexico.

[OGchinabanks]

tower.

[OGchinabanks]

way to many postal stickers. cut outs.

[Justin Kees]

High!!
I'm kinda new to this thread!
Well really this board even!!
But i wanna jump in...i do a bit of wheat pasting here in Amsterdam!!
Can i post a few pics??

[OGchinabanks]

postal stickers. and this is wear i stop. cause these are stickers. not posters. haha. more flicks soon. long beach spots.

[Justin Kees]

Okay if this isn't allowed...let me know!!
Post pics to others threads!!

Amsterdam!!

[ODS-1]

These pictures are cool but I don't think they belong here.

[OGchinabanks]

Originally posted by ODS-1@Nov 21 2004, 08:25 PM
These pictures are cool but I don't think they belong here.
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meh. i think the ones i post belong. all em but the postal sticker ones. there all wheatpasted. ive been pasting for years. so mine belong homie. but if you werent talking about mine, then i apoligize and have a good day.

[akira_oner!]

yo henlett why would u paste that mouse over teh crack of teh door lol??

[Justin Kees]

Not really sure if that comment was meant for me either!?!?!?
Is there a better place for wheat paste pics??
Or were you saying my picture sucked??
Sorry...we were 3 floors up hangin' of the top of this roof...there were security cameras everywhere....so didn't really have time to snap any real good pics of this mission...but i got tons of paste pics....just thought i read people requesting them!

[OGchinabanks]

Originally posted by Justin Kees@Nov 22 2004, 12:09 PM
Not really sure if that comment was meant for me either!?!?!?
Is there a better place for wheat paste pics??
Or were you saying my picture sucked??
Sorry...we were 3 floors up hangin' of the top of this roof...there were security cameras everywhere....so didn't really have time to snap any real good pics of this mission...but i got tons of paste pics....just thought i read people requesting them!
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JUSTIN KEES you keep it og man no worrries. you actually know how to put shit up. good spot. if you got more flicks POST EMMMMMMMM. or go on aim and send em to me so i can see them : )

my screen name is pasteanddestroy

[ODS-1]

http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/uploads/post-37131-1100987539.jpg
What is this on?

[OGchinabanks]

Originally posted by ODS-1@Nov 29 2004, 07:29 PM
http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/uploads/post-37131-1100987539.jpg
What is this on?
Quoted post



water tower. or a sulfer tower. its of the 405 in westminster.

[kleur]

Originally posted by wiseguy@Jun 15 2004, 12:42 AM
what do you keep your wheatpaste in while out sticking posters up? i dont imagine that a bucket of wheatpase would be that easy to carry around, it is fairly conspicuous as well, could you put it in some sort of bottle? or would it be too gluggy and thick? how much is actually required to affix an A4 size poster to a wall?
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Put it in a soup flask the small ones. it esay to use

[ODS-1]

I saw this on stencil revolution, but from the look of it, it looks like a wheatpaste.
http://stencilrevolution.com/photopost/data/501/2008platte.jpg

[DankRoller]

thats dope ups to stenc rev. good site.......im working on some projects me and a buddy are about to get soem earth worm jim posters up its funn becasue we like earthworm jim...he rocks

[anti-graffiti artist]

http://www.scratchdisc.com/graf/antigraffitiartist.jpg

[ODS-1]

May I ask what relevance that has to the thread?

[williethepimp]

a messenger bag filled with wheat paste is not a bad idea just make sure you dont need the back for anything else because if you want your shit to stay up you will need some good thick paste, at least thats what i have come to learn. it does clean off of car seats n such, at least leather and fake leather. cloth, not so much. A bucket and roler can look mighty suspicious and to keep your shit in a bag like that is not a bad idea. Ive thought about rigging up individual zip lock bags full of it, especialy for small scale shit ..again for concealment issues. word. wheatpasting is the bombzie.

[Pearlpaint]

Is wheatpasting even illegal? In most cities it's legal. At least according to what they've posted on the NYC anti-graf board. NO WHERE, does it claim the useage of stickers, wheatpasting part of vandalism. Especially when you have advertisements all over the city. Otherwise they are guilty of vandalsim:

New York City Graffiti Laws

§ 10-117. Defacement of property, possession, sale and display of aerosol spray paint cans, [and] broad tipped markers and etching acid prohibited in certain instances.



a. No person shall write, paint or draw any inscription, figure or mark of any type on any public or private building or other structure or any other real or personal property owned, operated or maintained by a public benefit corporation, the city of New York or any agency or instrumentality thereof or by any person, firm, or corporation, or any personal property maintained
on a city street or other city-owned property pursuant to a franchise, concession or revocable consent granted by the city, unless the express permission of the owner or operator of the property has been obtained.


b. No person shall carry an aerosol spray paint can, [or] broad tipped indelible marker or etching acid into any public building or other public facility with the intent to violate the provisions of subdivision a of this section.


c. No person shall sell or offer to sell an aerosol spray paint can, [or] broad tipped indelible marker or etching acid to any person under eighteen years of age.


d. All persons who sell or offer for sale aerosol spray paint cans, [or] broad tipped indelible markers or etching acid shall not place such cans, [or] markers or etching acid on display and may display only facsimiles of such cans, [or] markers or etching acid containing no paint, [or] ink or etching acid.


e. For the purpose of this section, the term "broad tipped indelible marker" shall mean any felt tip marker or similar implement containing a fluid that is not water soluble and which has a flat or angled writing surface one-half inch or greater. For the purpose of this section, the term "etching acid" shall mean any liquid, cream, paste or similar chemical substance that can be used to etch, draw, carve, sketch, engrave, or otherwise alter, change or impair the physical integrity of glass or metal.



§2. This local law shall take effect 120 days after enactment.



************ Title 10 § 117.1 establishes an Anti-Graffiti Task Force that assesses the scope and nature of the City's graffiti problem, examines the effectiveness of existing provisions of law aimed at curbing graffiti vandalism and proposes amendments to strengthen such legislation.****** Furthermore, the Task Force reviews current law enforcement activity and suggests ways to augment enforcement capability, identifies existing anti-graffiti programs in the City, surveys the efforts of other jurisdictions to combat graffiti and considers the replication of such programs in New York City, and proposes a comprehensive anti-graffiti program.

************ Title 10 § 117.2 of the New York City Administrative Law Code allows the Mayor to offer and pay a reward, not exceeding $500, to any person who provides information leading to the apprehension, persecution or conviction of any person who vandalizes property.

New York State Graffiti Laws

************ §145.00 of the State Penal Law states that a person is guilty of criminal mischief in the fourth degree when he or she, having no right to do so, intentionally damages property of another person, intentionally participates in the destruction of an abandoned building or recklessly damages property of another person in an amount exceeding $250.

************ §145.05 of the State Penal Law states that a person is guilty of criminal mischief in the third degree when with the intent to damage property of another person, and having no right to do so, he or she damages property of another person in an amount exceeding $250.*** §145.10 states that a person is guilty of criminal mischief in the second degree when, with intent to damage property of another person, and having no right to do so, he or she damages property of another person in an amount exceeding $1,500.

[Justin Kees]

Originally posted by williethepimp@Jan 9 2005, 02:19 PM
a messenger bag filled with wheat paste is not a bad idea just make sure you dont need the back for anything else because if you want your shit to stay up you will need some good thick paste, at least thats what i have come to learn. it does clean off of car seats n such, at least leather and fake leather. cloth, not so much. A bucket and roler can look mighty suspicious and to keep your shit in a bag like that is not a bad idea. Ive thought about rigging up individual zip lock bags full of it, especialy for small scale shit ..again for concealment issues. word. wheatpasting is the bombzie.
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I've used a jumbo sized dishwashing soap bottle filled with paste for smaller jobs!
Works well...a bit messy...but once you get the hang of it it works well!
Also pasting on bikes with baskets is the best ever....oh for those hot Amsterdam nights!!

[williethepimp]

euro-wheatpsting big? Yall europeans getn ova on dem with some posterrs???you should post flickers if you got em.

[williethepimp]

oh shit, has any one seen those side bag coolers. they are foft bags that unzip?? You could put your paste in that and then clean it out when your finished, you could even keep your foller or brush or what ever inside with maybe the handle poking out for easy removal. Its a fucking cooler that hangs from your shoulder...no body would say shit and if they do just offer them a beer...do people on this website drink beer or.....?
also, a shoping cart, push it around with your shit in the baskit and blend in....

[teamtbh]

Originally posted by Justin Kees@Jan 10 2005, 08:36 AM
I've used a jumbo sized dishwashing soap bottle filled with paste for smaller jobs!
Works well...a bit messy...but once you get the hang of it it works well!
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yeh ive done that a few times - makes a fucking mess of glue everywhere though! lately ive been using this heavy duty spraymount stuff :

http://www.wreck.devisland.net/pictures/misc/12oztak.JPG

Its uber-fast. but i suppose its kind of cheating really.

http://www.wreck.devisland.net/pictures/posters/poster4.JPG
http://www.wreck.devisland.net/pictures/posters/poster5.JPG

[teamtbh]

earthworm jim is a well safe bloke.
he let me bang his wife

[OGchinabanks]

im pretty sure this is illegal.

[OGchinabanks]

but i totally agree on what your saying. all these kids going out and pasting on electrical boxes and advertisment walls. that aint illegal that is legal forsure. but the kids that get freeways roof tops and trains and stuff like that, more graffiti influenced poster bombing forsure is illegal. but i am sure the penelty for wheatpasting is a fine not a felony like graffiti. so kids that poster get off easy. but in the future i see both stickering and posters being a illegal and considered vandalism.

[willy.wonka]

ima start getting into this... i dont know why.. i just looked at these drawing i have and thought.. shoot.. i can make a thousand copies and get up.
i have a question though..
doesn't regular printer ink fade fast or does the paste protect it?

[ODS-1]

^^^Yeah, regular printer ink will fade too fast. Kinkos ink should work fine. I think, i've never done it before.

[willy.wonka]

i hate spending money.. thanks though

[Boar103]

those are pretty sick. i've done some screen printing, it takes time but it's well worth it. and if your worried about waisting ink, you really gotta learn how much to use, i thought i heard someone complain about that. but i had an art teacher teach me screen printing. i'd like to get the stuff and start paisting. i did a lennon piece and it was savage i'd like to bring it back.

[ODS-1]

Originally posted by willy.wonka@Mar 17 2005, 09:05 PM
i hate spending money.. thanks though
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I'm sure there's a few ways you can do it and not pay for it. :crazy:

[willy.wonka]

question..

before i start to make my first batch... how do you store it? is it alright if it cools down?

[arc7hyp-1]

i've done a few wheat pasters previously all on smooth surfaces. however ive been scoping a new spot that is redbrick. will posting on brick work? any tips/ advice greatly appreciated.

[High Priest]

Brick is fine, but make sure you are using thick paste (paste to water ratio need's to be altered.)

Willy: Go to home depot, buy a box of wheat paste (about $1.50 a box) and follow the directions - its cool to store in the fridge, just dont let it dry.

[brian]

i need to cary some sheets of paper that are like 8 by 10 feet and i have no idea how to do this in a sneaky maner withought getting them wrinkled
anything helps

[Gupy]

How about using regular Vinyl wall covering for a canvas, then gluing that up. Is that done? It seems you could do a huge poster with 54 inch vinyl.

[willy.wonka]

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y107/soleimidget/Picture007.jpg

[imahustla]

yo guys, im new to the wheatpasting scene and posters. I have images on the computer i would like to print out, what kind of paper should i put in my printer that is suitable to be put up with paste.http://alpaca.eddie.com/pix/srl/991214/obey.JPG likes these.
I guess you guys use the heavy duty shit. But any help on where to buy it would be greatly appreciated, i see posters as a great form of graffiti, and i would just like to get more involved.

thanks

[Superbrew]

Im in the same boat really. When i walk through my city i like to see new things being done in different ways. I was thinking economy wise, could i just get away with printing my images off, or will the ink smudge??

Cheers...

[willy.wonka]

kinkos

[Gunm]

blueprint tubing. Long cardboard tubes.

voila.....you're solid fucking gold now

oh yeah, this was for the kid that wanted to know how to transport big pieces without being detected

[master bait]

You don't even need the tube, just roll the sheet and put it in a plastic bag. people may notice you have a large roll of paper with you but that's it. no one would care.

imahustla & superbrew-

I don't think that the paper is the main idea here. actually, thin, matte paper can make your poster stick to walls better and make them a bitch to buff. imagine wheatpasting newspapers. once it's dried it's a part of the wall and stays there. Thick glossy paper won't get soaked so easy and will come off in bigger sheets, although they look better and last longer if they're left untouched. I personally like the gritty, decayed look of thin paper after it's been sitting on a wall for a year or two...

The paper in your printer doesn't matter so much But your printer does. if you have a small inkjet printer, you can forget about printing posters with that. that ink is way too expensive, it runs out quickly, the quality is poor, it's not waterproof and it will most likely smudge when you paste it up.

But if you have a laserjet you can, for instance, print the outlines of your design at home and fill them up with cheap acrylic paint or any other paint/pigment/ ink that won't fade of wash away so well. water proof. that way you get good results fairly cheap without wasting your printer... it can be time consuming if you have a complicated design, in that case you go to kinkos or whatever copy/printing service to do this bussiness

With huge posters or large amounts of them I suggest some copy/print service, or school/free printers for your convenience. you can print your design on smaller sheets and put them together like a puzzle to form the bigger image etc.

Also all you people worrying about if the print will fade or someone will tear down your shit... if you have to cut up your posters to make them difficult to remove, you're using wrong paper and wrong wheat paste. I don't know where or how you can make EVERYTHING work fine, but you eventually will, if you feel like learning and experimenting with this stuff. one could say that posters are "supposed" to be destroyed by time. they're not permanent and that's why they're less serious crime than graffiti, and legal in most countries.
just make your best effort to have good quality prints and super effective wheat paste and I think you've done your best. you can't stop the average john rambo/authorities for removing your posters.

once you read this thread (only 5 pages) you can think what type of paper you prefer and if you want to slice up your poster or what... what makes wheat paste nastier etc. from what I gather it's mostly a question of personal reference. there are no rules

[thebigjvo]

alrighyt o i have some shit on my comp that im gonna print out and if i take it to kinkos can they blow em up to whatever size i want/need!?!?!?! thanks any advice helps

[Gunm]

^^^

yes but they are known for charging out the ass. start saving those pennies

[ODS-1]

Or scam them...Not that you would want to do that...

[Mr. Peanut]

wesley willis loved kinkos

[arc7hyp-1]

he suuure did

[SpanishBrown1704.CMK.]

i happened to stumble upon a few gallons of contact cement the other day..does anyone know how i might be able to thin it out a bit? i just feel that it would be a good alternative to homemade pastes, but it's too thick in it's current form...

[ODS-1]

Water?

[SER2]

HMMN

[CRUELone]

Originally posted by OGchinabanks@Feb 2 2005, 03:07 PM
but i totally agree on what your saying. all these kids going out and pasting on electrical boxes and advertisment walls. that aint illegal that is legal forsure. but the kids that get freeways roof tops and trains and stuff like that, more graffiti influenced poster bombing forsure is illegal. but i am sure the penelty for wheatpasting is a fine not a felony like graffiti. so kids that poster get off easy. but in the future i see both stickering and posters being a illegal and considered vandalism.


i was thinking about the legalness of wheatpasting..like i always see posters on abandoned buildings for like new cd's n shit...and shit..i see politician posters and signs and stickers around long after elections are over..o well...im lookin to start wheatpasting....right now ive only put up stickers and what not

[spade561]

just so everyone knows, if you use usps stickers for your stickers, you may get some heat. ive been hearing that since its misuse of united states government property it can be a felony. if anyone else hears stuff like this then post again on here with what you know. if writers in your area start getting heat for it then you may want to look into racking labels at wal mart or something. also, a company called u-line does orders for shipping for companies and stuff and they sell boxes of 100 sheets of 1/2 page stickers for like 3 bucks and the more you order, the lower the price. they have them in different colors too. might wanna check it out.

[asdjk]

what im currently experimenting with is a bottle of wall paper adhesive with a roller attached to it that i came across when i was looking for new rollers. i just carry it in a plastic bag . so it kinda looks as if i just bought something then when i want put something up i just hold it upside down and . instant sunshine ! anyways . the bottle is cool because it can be refilled with homemade paste. gyes. peace

o and its only five bucks.


o and does anyone know if you use spray adhesives on like an electric box or something will the vapors make it explode. i aint even trying to burn down someones house or small business right now.

[guerillaidiom]

Boston:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/guerillaidiom-2/boston/IMG_2938.jpg




http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/guerillaidiom-2/boston/IMG_2939.jpg





soho:

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y50/guerillaidiom-2/public/P1000744.jpg





looking for more spots to hit in brooklyn, boston, and dorchester(also surrounding areas).


I'm also looking for a new 5 gallon pot to cook paste in, since my roomate who moved out took it with her.


hope you all enjoy, and any feedback, constructive or not, is always appreciated.

[Inhalant]

seems like this thread is dead, now i'm here to revise it! :haha:

[Inhalant]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/emroloner/DSC00682.jpg

[Inhalant]

obey hitting the islands.
http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/emroloner/haha003.jpg

[Inhalant]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/emroloner/solomishn007.jpg

[Inhalant]

http://i20.photobucket.com/albums/b246/emroloner/solomishn008.jpg

[Inhalant]

ENJOY!

[eightball]

does this no longer get updated then? its a waste of a decent thread we dont have wheatpasting round my area n its nice to see.peace..

[cheapone]

this is how I roll...
this is my cooler bag that I put paste in.
http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/6014/img18998ce.th.jpg (http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img18998ce.jpg)
it also has this handy pocket that fits a roller perfectly!!!
http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/3395/img19010hb.th.jpg (http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img19010hb.jpg)
This the brush that I use(12"x3")gets the job done..Convienently fits inside the bag for getting more paste..
http://img422.imageshack.us/img422/5811/img19054sc.th.jpg (http://img422.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img19054sc.jpg)
And this is my pvc pipe tube(3'x2") .It keeps my posters dry,unripped,hidden,and mangeable.
(cost $8 to make at ace hardware(end caps too) you can make it whatever size you like.)
http://img484.imageshack.us/img484/1369/img19060hx.th.jpg (http://img484.imageshack.us/my.php?image=img19060hx.jpg)
I hope my tools inspire you all to put more thought into what your doing.also homemade paste store bought paste its all the same.I have actually had the best luck with frozen homemade paste that I thawed out and used.Those posters are still running(2 years now).And if you are making your own posters steal a projector from your school and trace the image off of your wall then paint it just like that guy said back up in tha thread.Its the cheapest way.
If ya wanna check out some of my paste ups check them out by going to www.myspace.com/cheapone

[THOZER-AIR-EDSKINGDOM]

SORRY ..BUT IM A ROOKIE WHEN IT COMES TO WHEAT PAISTEING....
THIS PAGE IS DOPE AND INFOMATIVE.

QUESTION: WHAT KIND OF PAPER CAN I USE???WALL PAPER??
OR WHAT IS BEST???

AND DOES THE PAISTE GOES ON OVER THE PRINT
OR UNDER OR BOTH???

HOOK ME UP I WANNA DO SOME WINDOW SIZE SHIT!!!!!
PEACE......

CHICAGO-GRAFF--HOLLA!!!

[deterrent]

Originally posted by THOZER-AIR-EDSKINGDOM@Jan 3 2006, 11:16 AM
SORRY ..BUT IM A ROOKIE WHEN IT COMES TO WHEAT PAISTEING....

Quoted post


Up Thoze?
The paiste goes on the wall first (cover the whole spot more than
what your poster will cover), put the poster up, and put paiste on
the poster (make certian to get the edges), to finich it: scquegee
it down making certian it's covered and to the wall with the lease
amount of airpockets and wrinkles.

As far as paper, you don't want something extra thick and heavy
because of the wieght and it's inablity to form-fit.

[StormReturns]

wont the paper rip if its not thick?

[THOZER-AIR-EDSKINGDOM]

SO WHAT KIND OF PAPER THEN?...

I WAS TOLD BUTCHER PAPER, REGULAR SCETCHING PAPER?
ILL JUST HAVE TO EXPERIMENT.....

THANX....

[dotdotdot]

newsprint. something very porous

[todler]

damn man whats with dot? thats my shit flipped cuz 4 short i write tod u in chicago? if non its cool

[guttersludge]

does it stick to highway signs?

[YourSistersAssCookie]

Originally posted by holycrapRUN@Aug 24 2004, 12:55 AM
fuck wheat pasting my mom is always like eat your breakfast and im like fuck u mom buy somethin good like cap'n crunch and that slut is like 'EAT UR WEATIES" dumb bitch
Quoted post

what the fuck? LOL

Yo shit sounds messy I like the idea of the spray adhesive.
Thanks for all the tips

[FRELctbk]

if your using regular printing paper is it better to put the past on the paber or is it better to put it on the surface?

[Scarekroe]

Originally posted by StormReturns@Jan 4 2006, 05:39 PM
wont the paper rip if its not thick?
Quoted post


REGULAR THIN PAPER IS THE BEST. BECAUSE IT GRIPS TO THE SURFACE BETTER AND PLUS YOU WANT THE WHEATPASTE TO ACTUALLY "SOAK" INTO THE PAPER ITSELF.

[KT08]

I have a funny story that is cautionary to all who haven't wheatpasted before. After my first night of pasting, i had a little bit of my concoction leftover, I left all my stuff in my yuppie bag (aka my disquise) and didn't think about it for the next 4 or 5 days.

I came home one day and the whole bottom floor of my house fucking stank, kinda like crushed ginko berries but worse. My parents were bitching, trying to find the source, and they asked me if I puked somewhere in the house and forgot about it. Then my mom showed me she had found where the stink was coming from by swinging my bag in front of my face, and my dad kept asking me what the hell was in the bag.

The moarle of this story: never be lazy and leave wheatpaste in your bag, for you will get a nasty suprise.

[airblaster]

samething happend to me^^^^it had like red chunks and stuff....ewwww

[wu tang warrior]

how would i get a big image on newsprints paper? regular paint? or sharpie or something? sharpies ar wack on a regular wall tho, would paint be best?

[knowme]

how big?

you can print/photocopy at a3 at any local library etc.

if you've got your heart set on a big image that you're going to hand draw, i'd recommend something with a bit more staying power than a sharpie (artline 100 is a good place to start).

[KARTOONKILLA]

7 TEEN

[KARTOONKILLA]

^^ SORRY FUCKED UP

[KARTOONKILLA]

7 TEEN

http://C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\Max\Desktop\paste%20 stencils\7TEEN2.JPG

7TEEN

http://C:\Documents%20and%20Settings\Max\Desktop\paste%20 stencils\7TEEN1.JPG

DETROIT

[KARTOONKILLA]

AH WE DO PASTE HOW DO YOU GET THEM SO BIG CAN YOU GO TO KINKOS OR SOMETHING AND PRINT THEM OUT THERE

[wu tang warrior]

does anyone have an exact recipie for wheat paste? and is their any substitutes? is paper mache to weak?

[KARTOONKILLA]

Pasteies
· 1 cup flour (wheat, corn, or rice)
· 3 teaspoons alum
· water
· 10 drops oil of cloves (natural preservative)
Combine the flour and alum in a double boiler. (If you don’t have a double boiler, set a smaller pan inside a bigger one that contains enough water that can be brought to a boil without overflowing). Add enough water to make a consistency of heavy cream; stir until blended. Heat, stirring constantly, until the mixture has thickened to a gravy texture. Let cool. Stir in the clove oil. Pour into a glass jar with a screw top. Apply with a glue brush.
Makes 1 cup

Shelf Life: 2 weeks refrigerated

ME AND MY FRIEND USUALLY GO TO MEIJERS AND THE PASTE GLUE[WALLPAPER GLUE] WILL BE BY THE PAINT SECTION AND ITS PRETTY CHEAP

[Dark06]

if u were 2 put the left over paste on top of the poster would it make it last longer?

[KT08]

yeah kind of. Its good to do that if you have had experience with corners peeling up, but it should be fine without the stuff on top if spray a little water on the back of the image( helps the paste seep in a bit better) and then smear paste on the back and on the surface your pasting on.

I :love2: wheatpasting

[MECOS]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/FuneralThirst/2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/FuneralThirst/3.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/FuneralThirst/4.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/FuneralThirst/1.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/FuneralThirst/5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/FuneralThirst/6.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/FuneralThirst/ohahsi.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/FuneralThirst/pescadito.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v141/FuneralThirst/vagina.jpg

:yuck: :yuck: :yuck: :yuck: :yuck: :yuck: :yuck: :yuck: :yuck:





KEEP THIS SHIT GOING !!!!!!!

[stoke]

Forget the paste.

Get some clear fiberglass resin, polyester or epoxy.. Look up surfboard shaping on google if you can not find clear stuff (foamez.com, fiberglasssupply.com, surfsource.net or look up research resin). Better to find someone who carries it in bulk to get decent prices. Hazmat shipping charges apply when ordering through the mail. Print out what you want to post on rice paper (available at craft stores like Michael's though often on a bottom shelf. It comes on a white roll with chinese characters on it). Add the appropriate catalyst to your resin (you can get UV catalyst that will cause the resin to harden when exposed to sunlight). Laminate. The rice paper will become clear leaving only your ink visible. That shit does not come off. Period.

More people should use this method.

[airblaster]

does wood glue and water work for a mix??? im lazy and i have wood glue and i heard about this mix but does it work?

[EGO31]

might just experiment airblaster let us know.

[Realz]

i have been thinking about getting into wheat pasting but i wan to know if tis worth while

does anyone have any good wheatpaste pictures?

[rattleytins]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

[alwaysHI]

...h

[shroom]

i found a really cool site that u can make posters up to 20m square (apparently) but u can make some big enough pics.Basically you send them an image and then size it up online and they send it you in pdf format all ready to print then you print it out and copy each one loadsa times then you got some crazy sized posters.
http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator/

its best to use simple black and white pics i found

[KT08]

So i have these prints I put up around town, cute little water bottles. I was wondering if it would be okay to put these prints in a gallery show that is somewhat school related( My full name and adress would be avaible). Could i get into shit for that? I mean, I was thinking they have no real way of proving I was the one who put them up, but then at the same time I'm afraid some authority figure or some jackass trying to be hero is gonna be like "I saw that outside my house, who made this? Oh okay, lets get her!" alright, lemme know what yinz think.

[Using_Public_Funds_Effectively]

butcher paper works well for large pastes, and a squirt bottle full of wheat paste solves the bucket-carrying problem. just squirt some on whatever it is, and brush it on. ive heard wallpaper paste also works

[kief]

i found a really cool site that u can make posters up to 20m square (apparently) but u can make some big enough pics.Basically you send them an image and then size it up online and they send it you in pdf format all ready to print then you print it out and copy each one loadsa times then you got some crazy sized posters.
http://homokaasu.org/rasterbator/

its best to use simple black and white pics i found

I was going to post this but you beat me to it, great link

[OGchinabanks]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/THESMITHSBOBDYLAN/002ndgood.jpg

[OGchinabanks]

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y234/THESMITHSBOBDYLAN/omg383.jpg

[unityy]

hey ogchinabanks, i see your shit everyone around my hometown(hb). big ups, i really enjoy the bob heads. how big is that one in LB 2nd st?

[Flavicon]

i have been thinking about getting into wheat pasting but i wan to know if tis worth while

does anyone have any good wheatpaste pictures?


:eek:

[Hashassian]

BORF!

[Fauxurmother]

sub-subculture

[C Da SKill]

is it worth makin the wheatpastin i mean wat do u do wit it>

[barrington187]

is this art?or dangerous propaganda

[rubeek]

experiment with how you get the ink on the paper aswell, the markers i used made the ink on mine seperate and run a little, but it looked kinda like highlights
http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a84/orangedust/xudebrick018close.jpg
mine on the right

incidentally mine wasn't printed; printing probably works the best
mine was drawn with a .... stabilo point 188 fine 0.4 .... standard fine tip black pen
um from what i hear the sun does the most damage so if you post something where it catches a lolt of sun it'll eventually fade

[GUNR]

who's your hero, shepard fairey?
my goodness...












your right though, that guy is a master of wheatpasting propaganda & he's got a nice web site, which also contains some good links.
www.obeygiant.com (http://www.obeygiant.com)

dont hate shepards a cool guy my friend hung out with him last week

[thegreathudiniwriter]

the only thing about shepard fairey is that dude has access to large ass fuckin printers,
and awesome graphic design programs and equipment.
dude had money before he franchised.

i love interesting wheat pastes but,
its for those with time.

oh and shepard faireys work was made only cuz he was a rich kid not a hoodchild.

[maniosoek]

forget shepard and bring it up

[maniosoek]

http://www.photodump.com/direct/manosoinc/san0182.jpg
mexicali, mexico hoodchildren

[maniosoek]

....

[maniosoek]

http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/manosoinc/223311.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/manosoinc/DSC00062.jpg
http://i86.photobucket.com/albums/k106/manosoinc/reforma.jpg

[ihatepoop]

hi im from hawaii i write azma but i usually bomb but i wanna get into pasting is this worth pasting
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e274/jackanjill/81_inhalerdemo.jpg

[rubeek]

I'd avoid doing anything with colour, especially if it's gonna be in the sun. Colour fades, man.

As to what's worth pasting, that's not really something anyone else can really tell you (though a lot of people may try) - that's your call

[maniosoek]

it's worth if you really want to do it

[GUNR]

its getting up easy and cheap and its quite fun