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Poop Man Bob
10-06-2004, 01:54 AM
Let's get it on!


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Poop Man Bob
10-06-2004, 01:55 AM
On in 6 minutes.

imported_dowmagik
10-06-2004, 01:56 AM
let the games begin

Poop Man Bob
10-06-2004, 02:01 AM
I really hope Cheney runs into the crowd and starts eating someone's baby. You know he wants to.



It's on now.

Poop Man Bob
10-06-2004, 02:03 AM
I wonder if I'm going to be the only person watching this and commenting. During the first prez debate, the thread went over 9 pages in little over 2 hours. Hmm.

Poop Man Bob
10-06-2004, 02:08 AM
Iraq, terror, 9/11 already mentioned together by Cheney in the first 15 seconds.


Edwards has that hand-move-while-talking-thing down pat.




Remember folks, it matters little in the long run what people think about the vice presidents .. it all comes down to Bush and Kerry.

GLIK$
10-06-2004, 02:10 AM
They're just vice presidents.

They do nothing.

Im not watching haha.

ElectricitySucks
10-06-2004, 02:13 AM
edwards owned that shit in the first few minutes....

cheney is looking a little better now with the eye contact and whatnot....


...looks pretty close to be honest.

26SidedCube
10-06-2004, 02:16 AM
Edwards needs chill on the stuttering.

Poop Man Bob
10-06-2004, 02:23 AM
I'd give the slight edge to Cheney right now. Edwards needed to clear up the $87 funding vote (that he didn't vote for the exact version the president supported).

ClueTwo
10-06-2004, 02:25 AM
Edwards is defintely holding his ground, but Cheney has the quicky cuts..

ClueTwo
10-06-2004, 02:26 AM
HE GOT HIM WITH THE NO BID!! HAHAHAHAHA

willy.wonka
10-06-2004, 02:29 AM
this debate is going alright, but they need to stop bullshittin with eachother.. i cant wait till some other questions come up.

for a sec it sounded like who could police the world better... kerry or bush?

cheney keeps pullin the same thing up against all of his debates.. "kerry would be shitty" records records lol..its getting old.

edwards seems like a boyscout, but its about kerry.. i think edwards would be a good back man, but for some reason, i do not like him, but i guess change is good.

as he was saying, we want to bring credibility back ot america..not mistrust.. "sucess breeds"

willy.wonka
10-06-2004, 02:30 AM
lets hope that edwards pulls out how many allies we've lost during this war.

ctrl+alt+del
10-06-2004, 02:35 AM
returning to 12oz simply for this....

squirm DICK, SQUIRM!!!

ctrl+alt+del
10-06-2004, 02:39 AM
Halliburton, hahahaha

ctrl+alt+del
10-06-2004, 02:40 AM
hahaha he tied halliburton to enron in one sentence. Point!!

I can respopnd but it will take more than 30 seconds

Well thats all you got.

HAHA,

ElectricitySucks
10-06-2004, 02:41 AM
cheny: "i can respond but its going to take more then 30 seconds."

lady: "well thats all you've got."

everyone: laughs.

cheny: "ehhhhh...."

willy.wonka
10-06-2004, 02:42 AM
hahaha!!


CHENEY: i can answer about halliburton, but its gonna take more than 30 seconds gwen..

GWEN: well, thats all you got...biyatch!

willy.wonka
10-06-2004, 02:43 AM
yeah, that was good

ctrl+alt+del
10-06-2004, 02:43 AM
edwards gets points taken off for israel

willy.wonka
10-06-2004, 02:45 AM
haha.. cheney, shut your ass about halliburton..

you lose on that

ctrl+alt+del
10-06-2004, 02:50 AM
points to edwards for bringing up cheneys voting record.

you voted against meals on wheels for senior citizens? YOU FUCK!!!

ctrl+alt+del
10-06-2004, 02:54 AM
[img]http://www.hundland.com/posters/f/AFewGoodMen.jpg'>

some of the looks that cheney gives reminds me of when tom cruise is questioning jack nicholson, and being a dick to him to just piss him off. like the old codger feeling disprespected by the younjg wippersnapper.

jack handy
10-06-2004, 02:55 AM
cheney couldnt say shit about halliburton

willy.wonka
10-06-2004, 02:56 AM
it would be funny if bush came poppin outa nowhere and started talkin shit about kerry.

good points on talkin about how much money america had in hte bank and when bush and chens came into office we went from a 5 trillion in the bank to a 3 trillion debt

ctrl+alt+del
10-06-2004, 03:03 AM
cheney didnt respond to edwards gay marriage speech, smart.

ctrl+alt+del
10-06-2004, 03:05 AM
pmb your absent, you wannabelawyer guy, they are talking about tort reform, where you at?

willy.wonka
10-06-2004, 03:15 AM
gay marriage is just what it is...gay

fuck thier civil rights.

kaesthebluntedwonder
10-06-2004, 03:27 AM
GO YANKEES!

Man, it's all "he said this he said that but meant this when he said that he was saying that, no he didn't i said it yes, i would have done it anyway to be consistent, you're not consistent nor is he because he said this and that, no no no, he didn't he was clear blah blah blah blah".

All i know is that Dick Cheney is evil.

kaesthebluntedwonder
10-06-2004, 03:28 AM
Originally posted by willy.wonka
gay marriage is just what it is...gay

fuck thier civil rights.

so you are voting for bush after all.

Brownbread?
10-06-2004, 03:42 AM
negatives:
-Cheney's a great tap dancer and tends to stray away from the base of a question. His rebuttals are weak and also seem to go to Kerry's record (flipfop) when trapped. he seemed out of gas about half way through.

-Edwards, acts as if john Kerry is talking to him from heaven. Stutters, slipped on a few issues and low blow(Cheney's daughter), talks a good one but seems alittle too good to be true. Has a plan that we never hear about.

positives:
-Cheney good speaker, seems rational. Did best with the limited amount of arsenal that he had.

-Edwards, the Roy Jones of politics, crazy hand work, taunts opponents , quick combacks, gets the last word. didn't hold back.

i personally feel this debate was better than the last. 6-4 Edwards

porque
10-06-2004, 03:48 AM
...just finished listening on the radio...is it just me or was this debate sloppy as hell...i mean they barely stuck to the rules, she allowed a 30 second every time...then she tried to give an extra one to edwards...just run kinda sloppy...

...all in all i think it was pretty entertaining...i wasn't too interested in the medicare shit, but the begining was pretty heated...the haliburton shit was awesome...the fact that cheney refused to comment about gay marriage was just crazy...i think edwards showed pretty obviously that he doesn't have the experience to call on but he backed it with a lot of charisma and just being honest...

...i'm curious if anyone can comment on teh visuals that i missed...did anyone just get super pissed?...

ctrl+alt+del
10-06-2004, 03:49 AM
[img]http://www.drudgereport.com/brokaw.jpg'>
Lie|George Bush|Tom Browkaw

Poop Man Bob
10-06-2004, 04:00 AM
Originally posted by porque
...i'm curious if anyone can comment on teh visuals that i missed...did anyone just get super pissed?...

Naw, no one got pissed, but people looked kind of shocked when Cheney was caught eating a 6-month old while Edwards was talking about Iraq.

Poop Man Bob
10-06-2004, 04:02 AM
Originally posted by ctrl+alt+del
pmb your absent, you wannabelawyer guy, they are talking about tort reform, where you at?

Haha .. sorry, the woman showed up to watch with me, so I wasn't going to pound away at the keyboard the entire time.

I thought Edwards was good, but not great. He missed a lot of opportunities to clear up misleading statements endlessly made by the Bush campaign. But I still think he came off much better to potentially undecided voters.

Cheney scared me. But I think that was the whole point. Fear=BC'04.

Edwards 7 - 3 Cheney. But I'm very biased.

porque
10-06-2004, 04:11 AM
...hahha...well at least that six year old had the right to be born...those damn liberals will kill em before they get to taste air...

Nekro
10-06-2004, 04:12 AM
I was just watching it. I checked a few minutes of the post debate analysis and remembered why I don't watch TV news.

I'm still digesting, but Edwards definitely made awesome points that Cheney couldn't even begin to fuck with. He was much more affable than Cheney was, and had better personality.

On the other hand, Cheney didn't look like the total retard Bush did. He was pretty pissed off looking at times though, I don't thing sneering at the entire country on TV is a good idea, even if you're directing it at JRE.

The moderator woman kicked much ass tonight, I must say. Homegirl came up with some awesome and very pointed questions for both candidates, A+ for her.

I probably won't be on here much tonight (schoolwork, ack), but we'll see how the big media spinning goes.

rubbish heap
10-06-2004, 04:18 AM
I thought Edwards definitely came out on top on this one. The debate was definitely less professional than the last one, but what can you expect? It seemed like it was getting pretty intense in the middle of it. The beginning and the ending we're kind of tame, but in the middle somewhere, the shit just hit the fan... Interupting eachother, Cheney handing out evil looks while avoiding the Halliburton subject for the most part (he said it was a "smoke screen"), both of them gaining off eachother with each question and rebuttal.. I enjoyed that.

With the last debate I couldn't honestly say Kerry beat Bush. I thought it was pretty damn close, I guess Kerry did gain some momentum from it though. With this one, I can easily say with no doubt in my mind that Edwards won.

Dick Quickwood
10-06-2004, 04:22 AM
Edwards could have done better with his delivery, his face expressions and verbal stumbling i mean. Cheney did a good job of seeming rational and level-headed, compared to his normal demeanor. something signifigant to me was when Cheney said he has been a mamber of a labor union, and injured in a hospital without health insurance, in trying to appear to be familiar and in touch with "middle class" America, he has been a priveleged person his whole life.

Poop Man Bob
10-06-2004, 04:29 AM
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Ferris Bueller
10-06-2004, 04:37 AM
I was busy catching the fever of playoff baseball, watching my man Santana (not Juelz) serve it up to the Yanks..

sounds pretty positive for Mr. Edwards...
Dick always looks like he's about to have knives pop out of his eyes like Christopher Lloyd on some Roger Rabit shit.

porque
10-06-2004, 04:56 AM
...did the twins win?...

Ferris Bueller
10-06-2004, 05:04 AM
2-0

fr8lover
10-06-2004, 05:19 AM
"I don't think the country can take four more years."

justaname
10-06-2004, 05:29 AM
i missed first 15 mins of the damn debate but the funny shit was when edwards talked about cheney's daughter "you are against gay marriage. i know you love your daughter and she's gay* and cheney was like ehhh thanks...
that done it for me..
6-4
for eddy boy

Nekro
10-06-2004, 05:45 AM
From kos:

"He voted against Head Start.

"He voted against banning plastic weapons that can pass through medical detectors.

"He voted against 'Meals on Wheels' for Seniors.

"He voted against a holiday for Martin Luther King.

"He voted against a resolution calling for the release of Nelson Mandela."

Cheney couldn't respond, and didn't even try.

Edwards wins that round.

Incidentally, damn did Cheney dish a lot of bullshit. Edwards was knocked off stride simply trying to keep the record straight. For that reason, the national defense stuff was probably a draw.

Nekro
10-06-2004, 05:53 AM
Cheney urged the audience to go to FactCheck.com to get the "truth".

Turns out that FactCheck.com is a George Soros site.

He probably meant FactCheck.org, which is a non-partisan site. But even if he meant that, look at the top headline from the site:
Bush Mischaracterizes Kerry's Health Plan

Bush claims Kerry's plan puts "bureaucrats in control" of medical decisons, "not you, not your doctor." But experts don't agree with that.

Poop Man Bob
10-06-2004, 08:31 AM
^^^
Hahaha .. poor Dick can't do nuttin' right.

SteveAustin
10-06-2004, 02:26 PM
MSN polls showing Edwards as the winner with 62%.

I missed it unfortunately.

mackfatsoe
10-14-2004, 05:28 AM
can't everybody see that Penis Cheney is just a fucking evil human being? hasnt anyone looked into his eyes? even if Penis Cheney was Jesus Christ's VP I wouldnt vote for them. fuck that man.