Pretty fucked up...

[SinGunChaser]

There's an artist, Nathalia Edenmont, who kills cats, mice, doves, rabbits, and other animals, mutilates their bodies, and then takes their photographs. She's on exhibit, among other places, at the Wetterling Gallery in Sweden. She has taken the top halves of five white mice and made them into finger puppets. She beat a cat to death with a stick. And this is called art. This is not only inhumane, but morally reprehensible.

Link to samples of the exhibit (warning! offensive content): http://www.wetterlinggallery.com/archive/n...thalia_main.htm (http://www.wetterlinggallery.com/archive/nathalia/nathalia_main.htm)
The Wetterling Gallery's Justification of her work: http://www.wetterlinggallery.com/newsletter/newsletter.htm

*****Link to the petition against her: http://www.thepetitionsite.com/takeaction/853089392

if you need to murder animals for the name of art, you obviously have no talent or creativity!!!!

[MOOGLE?]

damn thats pretty good.

whats art?

[Pfffffffffft]

wow...



needless to say this is interesting...
but sick at the same time..i am a huge fan of not limiting a persons creative expression but this seems sort of selfish..wow..im stunned..

in a way i like and enjoy it..but something is telling me it is wrong.. :hatred: :love2:

im interested in what seeking thinks about this..

[Pfffffffffft]

this looks an awful lot like my cat....so that makes me mad..

http://www.wetterlinggallery.com/bilder/nathalia/Begemot2.jpg

[Pfffffffffft]

:shook:

[Brewster Baker]

ART FAGS!

[22fillmore]

go protest meat eating and all that. at least this woman is just flat out cruel for the sake of creativity.

don t sit and protest this ONE person's artwork contians cruelty and every single fast food meal contains ten times the cruelty of this one artwork.

fuckers........

-back from the clink.

[Pfffffffffft]

this thread should be interesting

[iloveboxcars]

Originally posted by 22fillmore@Oct 25 2004, 01:02 AM
go protest meat eating and all that. at least this woman is just flat out cruel for the sake of creativity.

don t sit and protest this ONE person's artwork contians cruelty and every single fast food meal contains ten times the cruelty of this one artwork.

fuckers........

-back from the clink.
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You fucking moron. i don't agree with the *from what i've heard* way the fast food industry, or really the food industry in general, treats animals. but this fucking douche bag of a woman beats the shit out of a cat and calls it art. FUCK YOU.


-go back to the fucking clink you piece of shit.

[Hippopotamus]

in a muslim country, this bitch would be stoned to death... if she would have commited adultery of course. and if it were back in the 1400s.

she would also get her hand cut off...if she would have stolen...and also if it were back in the 1400s...and if it were a muslim country,

whats this thread about?

[casekonly]

a sad excuse.
(speaking of the female artist in question)

[SinGunChaser]

I just think it is insane that in order to make your art you need to beat fully consious animals with sticks until they die. Which she did because she "needed the body to be in good condition".

[26SidedCube]

Who gives a fuck.

Surely if there's natural order to the way things are man's fascination with murder, torture, and suffering is included in it. Some lady getting cheese from maiming housepets is the least of the world's problems, lets try to forget the 56 year old platinum blonde with silicone 34DD titties that made you feel confused and vulnerable at your dayjob and get our heads back in the game.

By all means, have your petty little causes.. it's cute, just know that in reality they're in the same vein as catholics going to confession and hobbies taken up to combat a midlife crisis.

...and I really like animals, too.

Edit: Now that I'm actually looking at the site.. the 'art' itself is hurt.

[MANOWAR]

bonkers completly bonkers. I am 50/50 on how i feel about it at the moment, but all i know is that she caught some attention and she did it in a real fucked up fashion.

[MOOGLE?]

...one question...



how the fuck does a person get into this style of "art"..let alone a woman..












and is she hot?





cause i'd let her give me a handjob with those mouse fingergloves

[iloveboxcars]

you people fucking disgust me.


maybe im just drunk, tired and been without nicotine for the last 3 days, but what the fuck? petty causes, yeah, it's small, it's acouple of dead animals, but the point is.. this bitch is doing this in the publics eye. beating the shit out of something that can't fight back so she can make a dollar. this is the moron that only painted with bodily fluids just one step further. i'd kill her myself and then hang her on the fucking wall. i mean, she should understand right? it's just art.

[Pfffffffffft]

http://www.bonsaikitten.com/
now this is art!!! :clown3:

[Herbivore]

i'm with iloveboxcars on this one... this woman needs to be given tiny papercuts all over her body. there's no excuse for what she's doing. she's probably just a fucking sadist who needs to find an excuse for her sick fetish of clubbing helpless animals to death. i don't understand how she's been able to avoid any sort of legal consequences. she admits to killing these animals, so she should be arrested, simple as that.

[bodice_ripper]

I think the phrase I'm looking for here is One Trick Pony....


I'm sure she could off the animals humanely and still create those images, but then she wouldn't get a gallery through media attention, would she?

[Overtime]

yeah, its pretty fucking retarded. What sense does finding a perfectly ok animal, buyin it, full well knowing that you a gonna beat the shit outta it. amazing how people find this ok. It is an interestin thought, dont get me wrong, but so is anyting that is diffrent, but in no way does that make it right....this is just retarded...

[Overtime]

There is nothing illegal in Nathalia's art. She has killed the animals in as humane a way as possible. Has she been guilty of a moral crime? We do not think so. We think that art is of vital importance. What do you think?


what part of "beating the animals to death with sticks, is original


what gets me, is basically they are all the same thing, just a differnet color, of a different animals head. She of course could span into some different media, but she sticks to this same thing, and does the same thing basically. thats retarded.....

[gatita]

Looks like Alice in Wonderland to me.

Shes looking for shock value, probably trying to get fame through the attention she will receive. Shes killing animals and (as it seems) not even utitlizing their resources (as in, actually eating their meat and not just throwing it out).
I happen to think this is disgusting. She could have executed a project like this much, much differently. Instead she ripped off costumes from Alice in Wonderland etc and decided to kill defenseless cats and birds to gain fame and some money.
What a bitch, hey guys, lets decapitate her and stick her on a vase with a froufrou collar. See how she feels when she reads her own pricetag.

[seeking]

she needed to beat the cat to death with a stick because she needed it to be in good condition?!
apparently she has not heard about having animals 'put to sleep'.

this is an interesting topic. on one hand i of course think it's insane and disgusting, but on the other hand, i like the confrontation it demands.

im glad this exists, but i hope it stops.

[war pigs]

i think this reaction is exactly the type of reaction she's going for...

damien hirst's cross section of a cow was a little more interesting though i think...

[sarcasm]

i think she didn't get enough hugs growing up

[SteveAustin]

wow...thats really fucked up.
I'm glad I don't have to kill kittens and bunnies in order for people to look at my art.

[imported_El Mamerro]

Originally posted by seeking@Oct 25 2004, 09:49 AM
this is an interesting topic. on one hand i of course think it's insane and disgusting, but on the other hand, i like the confrontation it demands.

im glad this exists, but i hope it stops.
Quoted post


Perfectly put.

I don't know, I'm not getting as outraged as most people are with this thing. It is fucked up though.



*EDIT: I can't find any mention of her saying she beat a cat to death. Help?

[ERIZENO]

After reading all of our thoughts, I checked all 3 links and see nothing about how we found out about her killing cats with sticks. Not debating it but curious how we found this info out??

Beyond that I like the art. The concept of pushing us against our own double standards in this fashion is unique.
I would like to see her using a vet and drugging them if that stick shit is true.

[Fondles]

This is rather strange.

Seeking hit my feelings exactly.

[Scrabble]

Originally posted by 22fillmore@Oct 25 2004, 02:02 AM
go protest meat eating and all that. at least this woman is just flat out cruel for the sake of creativity.

don t sit and protest this ONE person's artwork contians cruelty and every single fast food meal contains ten times the cruelty of this one artwork.

fuckers........

-back from the clink.
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I think killing animals because theyre tasty is a better than killing them for creativity.

[porque]

...where are you guys getting the information about her 'beating a cat to death with a stick'?...becasue i didn't see anything about that...

...i'll be back with more comments in a moment...i'm doing some research first...

[porque]

...well i looked all around on the web for some credible info...and i found a couple of intersting things out...one...this story is almost a year old (december 2003)...but more importantly, not one major art magazine had anything to say about the exhibition at all...

...what bothers me about this is when people disconnected with the art world go about portraying their ideas about what they think art is and should be..when you look at art with a critical approach you just take things for what they are, you look for the reasoning behind their prescense in the piece, what it contributes to the piece...you don't allow the shock novelty to become the piece, you question whether the shock value is used effectively and to what end...
...i don't condone the killing of animals...but i will never say that an artist doesn't have the right to explore something just becasue it is socially unacceptable...

[ENO ELPMIS]

no offense to anybody who "dug" this stuff but mouse finger puppets? some of this stuff reminds me of the movie "the cell". but more fucked up cause its real. whatever to each "her" own but im not down

[brusheskill]

^^^
yea, mouse finger puppets? that is just gross. i would question this as being creative. i would say maybe more bold or brave. killing things and photographing them isnt that new. some say its a fetish and others that did it were just mentally messed up. its wierd though because she doesnt really show the animals "insides" so why do they have to be real animals, why cant she fabricate models of animals and use those? man... i dont even know, this is so wierd. i dont know if i like it or if i dont. i think the notions of the dead animals in her pictures overpowers the artistic feel. all i see in the pictures are dead animals adn nice colors.

[imported_El Mamerro]

I remember reading a long time ago about some performance artist who bought a feeder mouse, and put up flyers all over town that at 3 PM on a certain day, he would kill the mouse by crushing it with a stone. His argument was that the mouse was destined to a much more painful death at the mercy of a pet snake, and that in fact he would give the mouse a much more humane death than that it was destined for. Of course, people went insane over it in protest, and the guy was stopped (I think even arrested) before he performed the act.

Like Seeks said, the confrontation it demands is powerful. I don't like the style one bit, but it is appropiate for the commentary. The shock value would be there if it was just pictures of the animals dead on the floor. Her arrangements are what push it beyond the shock value and into actual concept. Until I know more information on how these animals were actually killed, I'll reserve my judgment on this woman.

[seeking]

yeah, from what i gather, i think this goes beyond shock value as well, because it really does open up a very real and very important line of conversation. the point of art is to reflect society. this work, 'good' or not, is a valid reflection of the hypocracy of society. people go ape shit at the idea of people eating a dog in asia, but they dont think twice about eating a lamb. it's a total crock of shit. 60 years ago they held lynchings in the middle of towns and killed blacks for looking at white women, now theres outrage over the killing of a mouse who is destined to die anyway? whatever. millions of mice die everyday and life as a whole still goes on.
mams, if you dig around and get more info, please share.

[SteveAustin]

Originally posted by brusheskill@Oct 26 2004, 09:32 AM
yea, mouse finger puppets? that is just gross.
Quoted post


actually...I think the mouse puppets are just fucking awesome.

I read somewhere in one of those articles that she killed them humanely.

Ok...I actually went back and reread the galleries statement and found this little gem...' She has killed the animals in as humane a way as possible'. I seriously doubt that beating them to death with a stick is considered humane. In addition...I think that would really make a much larger mess than she would like as well as possibly damage the body parts that she intends to photograph.

I understand the statement she is making about paradoxes, but I am still not all that fond of using shock value to draw attention to ones art. I sometimes find myself wondering about the life span of shock value. I tend to think that eventually...it will be impossible to shock anyone...mainly because its already been done.

[<KEY3>]

there was a case in my city about these two guys
who skinned a cat and video taped the whole thing.
They claim it's art.... I would gladly video tape myself
kicking their asses and call that art too.

[seeking]

Originally posted by SteveAustin@Oct 26 2004, 12:46 PM

I understand the statement she is making about paradoxes, but I am still not all that fond of using shock value to draw attention to ones art. I sometimes find myself wondering about the life span of shock value. Quoted post


if all something has is shock value, then i agree, it's stupid, and will be just a flash in the pan. in this case though, i think there is a very valid subject here. it's not even one of art, but of social norms and acceptibility.
there is a lot of work that was probably just seen as 'shock' that i think has a lot of merrit. the guy who cut up the animals and encased them in the glass for instance. i saw that exhibit in london, and while it is shocking, there is definitely something about it that makes you think. same thing with the photography of joel-peter witkin (do a google search, dude is fire) or the guy who uses the wax process to strip bodies of their flesh and preserve them in crazy poses. even marilyn manson, as trite as that whole subject matter is, he did bring a bout a whole lot of valuable discussion. now it's sort of a joke, but he's also moved away from shock as a result.

i agree with you totally that shock is dumb, im just really interested by this whole thing and have had a good time thinking about it to myself. that alone proves there must be more to it.

[porque]

Originally posted by seeking@Oct 26 2004, 01:22 PM

there is a lot of work that was probably just seen as 'shock' that i think has a lot of merrit. the guy who cut up the animals and encased them in the glass for instance. i saw that exhibit in londonQuoted post


...damien hirst...great artist...

[porque]

...here's somebody you'll either love or hate...this is probably the most controversial art exhibit in recent history...

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/gallery/2002/03/18/bodyworlds1.jpg

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/gallery/2002/03/18/bodyworlds2.jpg

http://image.guardian.co.uk/sys-images/Guardian/Pix/gallery/2002/03/18/bodyworlds3.jpg

link to the article (http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,669775,00.html)

...the guys name is Gunther Von Hagen...and yes those are all real dead people...he considers himself to be a scientist working in the best interest of educating the world on anotomy...he doesn't think of himself as an artist, but he shows in galleries because they're willing to show it...really interesting work...unlike the cat girl you can find a lot of information on this guy...

[ENO ELPMIS]

Originally posted by porque+Oct 27 2004, 01:16 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (porque - Oct 27 2004, 01:16 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-seeking@Oct 26 2004, 01:22 PM

*** there is a lot of work that was probably just seen as 'shock' that i think has a lot of merrit. the guy who cut up the animals and encased them in the glass for instance. i saw that exhibit in londonQuoted post


...damien hirst...great artist...
Quoted post
[/b][/quote]

word damien hirst is dope, this thing with the bodies is hella bizarre how does he go about getting them?, if the people pre donate themselves for whenever they die im cool with it,its still nuts but i remember in high school my science class had a real human skeleton in a case i guess it was an indian guy it was like 90 years old too. they have to treat the bones with some kind of acid probably bleach em too, not much different. also theres this museum in italy with all these bodies preserved much like these here but theyre like 150 years old they look like they died yester day its wierd its for anatomy pouroses so theyre not riding horses n shit.

[porque]

...yeah all these people donate their bodies...

[ERIZENO]

I saw the Body Works show recently. so very cool to see. Kind of a mind fuck to me though ... there is a pregant woman who died at 8 months and whatever she had it killed the baby too. strange to see the crossection into her belly.
i heard after seeing the show over 6,000 more people have signed off to donate their bodies. maybe one of these days there will be enough to have some of these at most every major science museum.
And that is only one guy riding the horse ... the front is his muscles the back are his bones. the horse iteslf was just crazy to stand in front of !!!!

[Joker]

I can't think of the photographers name but some guy uses dead people parts and combines them with fruit and other shit and takes black and white photos of it. I think NIN used his work as inspiration for one of their videos long ago. Anyway... I know this is not on topic but it's kind of related.

I'm not sure how I feel about the issue. As a cat lover and owner my whole life, I'm a little miffed about the kitty images, but could give a fuck about the bunnies and mice. So it's personal in that respect. If it were a human head and human torso's I would actually be less concerned. Why? I don't know. A human head in a vase with some elizabethen neck cap seems more artistic than a bunny head. I would actually pay to see the exhibit of some shit like that. Not harmless animals.

It's controversial, yes. But so were Robert Maplethorpe photographs years ago. Now you don't hear shit about the guy. So don't bother remembering this chicks name because she'll be a cold booger on a paper plate by this time next year. Now that's art...

[porque]

...just think about how many cats are put to sleep and then thrown in an incinerator everyday at animal shelters...

[ERIZENO]

Originally posted by porque@Oct 28 2004, 04:35 PM
...just think about how many cats are put to sleep and then thrown in an incinerator everyday at animal shelters...
Quoted post

I keep thinking along these lines and then not posting about it.

if she were going to shelters and taking the animals that were being put down already it would dramaticly change the whole thing.
to an almost recycling thing, as well as making us question things in the same fashion.

[ledzep]

I think those look pretty cool, I was expecting pictures of guts and shit, but it was actually pretty tasteful considering.

[High Priest]

May she get cervical Rott.

[ENO ELPMIS]

Originally posted by ENO ELPMIS+Oct 27 2004, 07:31 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (ENO ELPMIS - Oct 27 2004, 07:31 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by porque@Oct 27 2004, 01:16 AM
<!--QuoteBegin-seeking@Oct 26 2004, 01:22 PM

*** there is a lot of work that was probably just seen as 'shock' that i think has a lot of merrit. the guy who cut up the animals and encased them in the glass for instance. i saw that exhibit in londonQuoted post


...damien hirst...great artist...
Quoted post


word damien hirst is dope, this thing with the bodies is hella bizarre how does he go about getting them?, if the people pre donate themselves for whenever they die im cool with it,its still nuts but i remember in high school my science class had a real human skeleton in a case i guess it was an indian guy it was like 90 years old too. they have to treat the bones with some kind of acid probably bleach em too, not much different. also theres this museum in italy with all these bodies preserved much like these here but theyre like 150 years old they look like they died yester day its wierd its for anatomy pouroses so theyre not riding horses n shit.
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[/b][/quote]

correction, i saw that book i was thinking of again and they werent real dead folks they were wax molds my bad

[Issac Brock]

for those of you saying that we should also be protesting meat eating -- eating meat is human instinct, and the way of nature. We are omnivores whose bodies are designed to eat meat. However, killing animals for sculptures is not nessesary in this day and age, is cruel and unusual, and violates animal cruelty laws. I do not understand how she has not been arrested yet.

[Mr. Peanut]

Originally posted by Joker@Oct 27 2004, 07:41 PM
I can't think of the photographers name but some guy uses dead people parts and combines them with fruit and other shit and takes black and white photos of it.Quoted post


I was thinking of the same guy. too bad I can't remember his name either. A few months ago a girl I know showed me some of his work. I'll have to ask her again.

as for the cat killer, her stuff isn't very interesting at all.

[Mr. Peanut]

http://www.bodyworlds.co.uk/en/pages/home.asp

I found the homepage for the corpse exibit. You can even download wallpapers for your computer!

[Mr. Peanut]

*PS: don't donate your body to science or you may end up on a mouse pad naked and skinned
https://ssl.koerperwelten.de/images/shop_produkte/0048pct_g.jpg

[escapeartist]

if my mind serves me right.. wasnt this guy on Ripley's Believe it Or Not a whole back?

[blahh]

i think it all depends on where she gets the animals / how she kills them. define "humane."

[Mr. Peanut]

http://www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/witkin2/

joel peter witikin...the photographer joker brought up.
give it a look.

[Dick Quickwood]

cool

[seeking]

i was about to mention witkin. dude is incredible. ive got a couple books of his work.

he was a big inspiration for me just by presenting things in such a different manner. using a human head as a fruit bowl, or cutting off someones foot and just shooting that. totally nuts. i'll find some images to post for all those to lazy click links.

he did a lot of work on the earlier tool stuff BTW.

[seeking]

http://www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/witkin2/images/04.jpg
http://www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/witkin2/images/07.jpg
http://www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/witkin2/images/08.jpg
http://www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/witkin2/images/09.jpg
http://www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/witkin2/images/12.jpg
http://www.zonezero.com/exposiciones/fotografos/witkin2/images/13.jpg
ok, i just pillaged the above link, but if you google dude, you can find a couple moe online galleries.

[cornpone]

This could be a great way to break up with your girl friend.

Think about, you mail the fucking little cat you hate, in a box, to this lady. She turns it into a flower vase. You show up at your girl friend's house with the dead cat vase with flowers sticking out of the cat's mouth and ears.

It's a sure be she will hate you forever.
:love2:

[SEENthatTRICK?]

look at this paint

[SEENthatTRICK?]

dats a lot eh?.........

[HAL*LOVE*U]

this women needs to get like a fine or some shit or none the less go to jail goddam

think about it this way
you have had a cat for a couple of years and ur cat has kittens how the fuck would u feel if u found out that ur kitten was beaten to death with a stick for the sake of art



fuck just OH MY FUCKING GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[AerosolTerrorist]

^^You do it too..but you eat them not display them as art

but wow this is one fucked up way of art!

if art is self expression,i think these people are serial killers!

[KING OF HELL]

i think my problem with the "art" here is that helpless animanls died for her shock value. i agree with all the whole dogs eaten in asia is bullcrapp and pretty much everything that seeking said, however..... i feel that any attention she has brought herself and her art is actually counter-productive to what she is trying to say. most people that will see her work arent going to have intelligent discussions. they will either be shocked and miss any point, or defend it to the grave with some artsy farsty rhetoric. and she will sit back and enjoy the inside joke of it all, which i guess is the point. i just think it sucks to die for someones obvious inside joke.
its not making big wakes or even little waves.. just tons of annoyance.

point missed lady.

[GnomeToys]

Originally posted by SEENthatTRICK?@Jan 8 2005, 11:47 PM
dats a lot eh?.........
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BANNED-AIDE

[GEEB]

In the name of art? FUCk that, i Bomb in the name of art, but kill animals, or turn dead bodies into exhibits? hell naw homie!

thats just my opinion.

[geist]

Originally posted by 22fillmore@Oct 25 2004, 05:02 AM
go protest meat eating and all that. at least this woman is just flat out cruel for the sake of creativity.

don t sit and protest this ONE person's artwork contians cruelty and every single fast food meal contains ten times the cruelty of this one artwork.

fuckers........

-back from the clink.
Quoted post


Yea because McDonalds beats cats to death and serves em up for you to eat right?

You fuckin PETA tool - get a clue - it's completely different.

It'd be different if they were dead to begin with but she's fuckin killing the things.

[geist]

Originally posted by seeking@Nov 10 2004, 11:53 AM
i was about to mention witkin. dude is incredible. ive got a couple books of his work.

he was a big inspiration for me just by presenting things in such a different manner. using a human head as a fruit bowl, or cutting off someones foot and just shooting that. totally nuts. i'll find some images to post for all those to lazy click links.

he did a lot of work on the earlier tool stuff BTW.
Quoted post



I was gonna say - looks like he had a hand in the creation of the Closer video....really resembles it. Maynard may have passed his name on, or vice versa or otherwise.

[Coffie Crave]

bitch is fucking sick, yeh its weird art and looks cool...but why cant she just put photos together in photoshop (cuzs thats what it looks like anyway) or if that takes away from her ''fun art'' she can atlest chop up dead animals...why alive....how about i track down here family or childern chop them up poke at them and turn them in to art and take weird photos of it...


i hope u burn in hell bitch along with your wacky bullshit

[velocet]

Those Witkins photos are awesome...

[Overtime]

Originally posted by SEENthatTRICK?@Jan 8 2005, 11:46 PM
look at this paint
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this has nothing to do with anything......

[IzacFour]

Originally posted by seeking@Oct 27 2004, 12:23 AM
yeah, from what i gather, i think this goes beyond shock value as well, because it really does open up a very real and very important line of conversation. the point of art is to reflect society. this work, 'good' or not, is a valid reflection of the hypocracy of society. people go ape shit at the idea of people eating a dog in asia, but they dont think twice about eating a lamb. it's a total crock of shit. 60 years ago they held lynchings in the middle of towns and killed blacks for looking at white women, now theres outrage over the killing of a mouse who is destined to die anyway? whatever. millions of mice die everyday and life as a whole still goes on.
mams, if you dig around and get more info, please share.
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Good call.

How nice that an urban environment allows everyone to be so opinionated.

Things die every day and life isnt fair, get it?

[casensitive4]

*i quoted the wrong post.. but i meant to quote the one about the guys filming the skinning of the cat then kicking thier asses and calling that art*


amen brotha!!


on another note i use to catch frogs a lot and i loved frogs so much... after a while i did it so much one day i caught some and threw them at the trailr (yes trailor) i was staying at at the time... my mom was pretty pissed and i had to clean it up with bleach.. ever since then the only remotely fucked up thing ive done to animals would have to be shooting birds in my backyard with a pellot gun.. i even grew out of that..

[ENO ELPMIS]

my boy ique picks up snakes and spins em by the end of their tail till their heads pop

[Herbivore]

i hope a giant alien comes down to earth and does the same thing to him

[sillysiphilis]

fuck...does anyone else feel like they're going to puke?

[cabin fever]

"Who cares"
signed,
The World.

[caffeine]

Everything here is disturbing as hell.

[SpyD]

The animal shit is just straight fucked up.

the witkins dude tho, all I can say is "who the fuck has balls to mold dead people and bodies into shit? didnt that shit stink or what? FUCK!!!!"

[NFD]

someone needs to beat her to death with a stick then put her body parts on some fancy lookin shit then call it art.

[430crew]

the pictures are very interesting...it's pretty sick that she has to kill the animals than rather finding dead ones or ones that are already dieing from something. this chicks art shouldn't have ever been acceptable, as if ppl care more for art than living creatures, which is liek an alive art form. i guess she wasn't so artistic if she culdn't have ever seen it that way before... o well what goes around comes around

430