David Choe Paints Whales.

[High Priest]

Taken from his site : DAVID CHOE (http://www.davidchoe.com)

http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/wieghtloss%20girls.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/tunnelvision1%20-photo%2310080.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/tunnelvision-photo%20by%200079.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/tadpoles.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/stempl%27s%20living%20room.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/skin%20disease.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/ride%20the%20bus.jpghttp://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/save%20yourself.jpg

[heavyLox]

the card board box and the handtruck was awesomelly funny and the highway jeep whale is cool too.

[High Priest]

http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/no%20time%3D%20no%20nose.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/no%20one%20can%20save%20you-KANSAS.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/keep%20on%20trucking.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/japan2.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/japan15.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/japan14.jpg

[High Priest]

http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/japan.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/huge%20spraypainted%20stickers.jpg

( hotel )
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/hotel%20des%20arts-the%20c%2310034.jpg

http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/go%20ahead%20save%20yourself.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/gay%20suicidal%20pirate%20%2310028.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/bus%20bench%20poster.jpg

[yapiteeyap]

dizam

[High Priest]

other stuff :

http://www.davidchoe.com/mixed/images/barbara%20gordon.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/mixed/images/boombot.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/mixed/images/fight%20for%20tomorrow.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/mixed/images/goonies.jpg

[heavyLox]

feels like this might be better off iin the "untitled" section.

[JudgeMathis]

cool stuff.

[killa4rilla]

i always hated this kinda artfag shit but
when i saw the video on this guy he won me over like crazy.
hes a gangster ass motherfucker, killing shit
in the daytime like nothing, and noone
can step to the two-handed charcters he busts
out in like 2 seconds(meaning he paints with a can
in each hand at once).GANGSTER!

[InfamousOne]

i saw this guy on the dithers dvd...he was standing on top of an explorer on a busy highway in the emergency lane in broad daylight holding a can straigh while the car was driving then he jumped down and painted the whales mouth and eye..then he just ran off..that shit is crazy....

[GamblersGrin]

i have a very hard to find comic called "non" which he did stuff in

[BROWNer]

i had a thread on this dude back when trying to find out
if anybody knew his name, all i knew was that he painted
whales and shit.
i dig that unpolished character bombing.
i also dig his attitude: "you know that kid that
writes fuck off on everything? that's me."

[Overtime]

some of the stuff is kinda cool, others i dont like

[IDrinkSprite]

good stuff

[fatalist]

very nice work

[High Priest]

http://www.davidchoe.com/mixed/images/wetlook.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/mixed/images/teethlips.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/mixed/images/ted%20shred.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/mixed/images/speakeazy.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/mixed/images/no.685.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/111%20minna%20-SF.jpg

[im not witty]

saw this movie on him years ago. still have it bookmarked to this day. shit is fresh. the newer trucks hes done are wicked nice.

[High Priest]

http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/david%27s%20creek.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/japan11.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/japan10.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/japan13.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/japan5.jpg
http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/japan7.jpg

[MANOWAR]

Dude is pretty cool in my book.

[__ __ __ __]

he came to san jose a couple yrs ago and paintd some randhttp://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/tadpoles.jpgom places as well.... nice show i might add too.

Actually that first whale along that greenish yellow wall is by my house.


http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/tadpoles.jpg


http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/skin%20disease.jpg

[chokeyourassout]

his guy is a phony...never seen i'm up in san jose. :gaga:
he didnt bomb shit. far from graf.

[fermentor666]

Originally posted by chokeyourassout@Nov 6 2004, 08:23 AM
his guy is a phony...never seen i'm up in san jose. :gaga:
he didnt bomb shit. far from graf.
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You're not up in Boston, you're phony. Far from graf.

[chokeyourassout]

Originally posted by fermentor666+Nov 6 2004, 02:05 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (fermentor666 - Nov 6 2004, 02:05 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-chokeyourassout@Nov 6 2004, 08:23 AM
his guy is a phony...never seen i'm up*** in san jose. :gaga:
he didnt bomb shit. far from graf.
Quoted post


You're not up in Boston, you're phony. Far from graf.
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[/b][/quote]


dude can't even tag. he's phony. i dont clame i'm form boston. bro.
if i did i would be up there.

[im not witty]

[quote=chokeyourassout,Nov 7 2004, 04:28 AM]
clame

[CIPHER_one]

I had a dream that David Choe was teaching a class I was going to take in France.

[Mr. Peanut]

pretty cool shit. that truck is wicked.

[fermentor666]

Originally posted by chokeyourassout+Nov 7 2004, 04:28 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (chokeyourassout - Nov 7 2004, 04:28 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by fermentor666@Nov 6 2004, 02:05 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-chokeyourassout@Nov 6 2004, 08:23 AM
his guy is a phony...never seen i'm up in san jose. :gaga:
he didnt bomb shit. far from graf.
Quoted post


You're not up in Boston, you're phony. Far from graf.
Quoted post



dude can't even tag. he's phony. i dont clame i'm form boston. bro.
if i did i would be up there.
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[/b][/quote]


graf·fi·to ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gr-ft)
n. pl. graf·fi·ti (-t)

A drawing or inscription made on a wall or other surface, usually so as to be seen by the public. Often used in the plural.






Stoopid.

[chokeyourassout]

david choe = toy
why is he not/or ever been up in san jose? with his so called graffiti.


yea he can paint good.so ,
no street credit, yall need stop act'n like he killed the street. lets see all this bombing :haha:
hes a phony.


"graf·fi·to ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gr-ft)
n. pl. graf·fi·ti (-t)

A drawing or inscription made on a wall or other surface, usually so as to be seen by the public. Often used in the plural."


so please don't veer from the point buddy.

[fermentor666]

Originally posted by chokeyourassout@Nov 10 2004, 07:04 AM
david choe = toy
why is he not/or ever been up in san jose? with his so called graffiti.


yea he can paint good.so ,
no street credit, yall need stop act'n like he killed the street. lets see all this bombing :haha:
hes a phony.


"graf·fi·to ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gr-ft)
n. pl. graf·fi·ti (-t)

A drawing or inscription made on a wall or other surface, usually so as to be seen by the public. Often used in the plural."


so please don't veer from the point buddy.
Quoted post



You must be just saying all this to piss everyone off, since most of the shit up there is street bombing. And who said he was from San Jose?

And as to "veering from the point", you said

his guy is a phony...never seen i'm up in san jose.
he didnt bomb shit. far from graf.


I said:

graf·fi·to ( P ) Pronunciation Key (gr-ft)
n. pl. graf·fi·ti (-t)

A drawing or inscription made on a wall or other surface, usually so as to be seen by the public. Often used in the plural.


Buddy.

[chokeyourassout]

Piss everyone off? who? the david choe fan club.
don't flatter yourself.
point is, he said he's from SJ (now) came from LA,

then lets see the SJ or LA street shit, not some bullshit
he did on vaction in Japan last year and not some shit he did in a tunnel
or behind color cowboy.

Bomb caifornia. Phony! cuz you never have.

or stop say your so much of a graffiti artist. thats real.
real graffiti artist know he's a phony.

and if you want to know what real graffiti artist are think.
UFO, MQ, Neckface, saber, pacman etc.

[fermentor666]

http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/ride%20the%20bus.jpg

Wow, yeah real phony.

[gatita]

He just said Neckface.. hahahha. Listen, Choe might not be a "graffiti artist" but Neckface is FAAAAAAAAAAR from one. Unless I can start drawing hairy limbs and writing "Arm Hand" and get fame.

Fuck it.

[chokeyourassout]

Originally posted by gatita@Nov 11 2004, 12:42 AM
He just said Neckface.. hahahha. Listen, Choe might not be a "graffiti artist" but Neckface is FAAAAAAAAAAR from one. Unless I can start drawing hairy limbs and writing "Arm Hand" and get fame.

Fuck it.
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actually neck face is a really good artist and started drawing that way on the street as a joke.
i'm not say'n i like his shit...BUT HE GETS UP THATS THE POINT. he bomb for sure.

but he's pretty much the same as CHOE

"he is an "artist" that tries to exploit graffiti as his vehicle in order to get himself a name in the "contemporary artworld". its a fuckin joke, anyone can do whatever they want but hes stepping on the toes of real graffiti writers by trying to sell himself off as one for his own gain"

fermentor666 :

As far as that stupid whale photo. any moron can video type themself doing something on the street, you need to put in work to get respect. you have to do more then that to be a street artist, please stop showing the same photo.

another thing that whale is not any better then neckface's stuff. :haha:


POINT IS CHOE NEVER BOMBED SAN JOSE

[fermentor666]

OK, here's the thing "chokeyourassout".

First, I don't see anywhere that the guy "claims" San Jose.

Second, if you knew anything about graff, you'd know that there are plenty of people who have done their time on the streets and move on from that. Whether or not Choe falls into this catagory, I'm not sure, but it seems from what I just read on the website that he's more into galleries and music, now.

Third, he is a lot more talented than Neckface. Obvious.

Fourth, you're getting really heated over this dude, he must have done something wrong to you, or you are just a jealous little man.

Sixth, by all technical definitions, he and Neckface are graffiti artists. In your small little world, the definition of the the word "graffiti" might be different from the rest of the population, but your world is a lonely world, "buddy".

Ninth, I think the dude's art is good, his street stuff is nice, his gallery stuff is real nice, and he's been around for a lot longer then a Neckface. But I don't really care much more about him, and I'm done argueing about this since it's not really worth my time and effort and you are obviously missing the point. This is an art thread, not the Brickslayers thread.

[japillahan]

Hook it up with a vid

[The Pity Party]

http://www.davidchoe.com/walls/images/go%20ahead%20save%20yourself.jpg

whats david choe doing in THIS city? i never saw anything else from him around there, either.

[chokeyourassout]

Originally posted by fermentor666@Nov 11 2004, 12:50 PM
OK, here's the thing "chokeyourassout".

First, I don't see anywhere that the guy "claims" San Jose.

Second, if you knew anything about graff, you'd know that there are plenty of people who have done their time on the streets and move on from that. Whether or not Choe falls into this catagory, I'm not sure, but it seems from what I just read on the website that he's more into galleries and music, now.

Third, he is a lot more talented than Neckface. Obvious.

Fourth, you're getting really heated over this dude, he must have done something wrong to you, or you are just a jealous little man.

Sixth, by all technical definitions, he and Neckface are graffiti artists. In your small little world, the definition of the the word "graffiti" might be different from the rest of the population, but your world is a lonely world, "buddy".

Ninth, I think the dude's art is good, his street stuff is nice, his gallery stuff is real nice, and he's been around for a lot longer then a Neckface. But I don't really care much more about him, and I'm done argueing about this since it's not really worth my time and effort and you are obviously missing the point. This is an art thread, not the Brickslayers thread.
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"First, I don't see anywhere that the guy "claims" San Jose."

haha. he lives in SAN JOSE thats a fact. and "claims" why would he claim a city,
this is not a gang it can be any city. i'm say'n he has lived in SJ for many years now and hasn't done shit and CLAIMS he's a street artist.

look i used neckface as an example of someone that is a true street arts. i don't care how good his
art is that was never the piont.

THE POINT IS BEING OR HAS BEEN ACTIVE ON THE STREET. DOING FEW THINGS DONT MAKE YOU A STREET ARTIST AND JUST BEACUSE YOU USE A SPARY PAINT CAN RATHER THEN A PAINT BRUSH DOES NOT EITHER.

and no he has never did anything to me. people just give him way to much prop for
doing nothing on the street of SJ. you can call me a hater, but really i'm just exposing a phony

call it like you see it.

[Fr8Junkie]

Whales and Orgies (http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/974448?htv=12&htv=12)

just because he's not up a whole lot in SJ doesnt mean he hasnt put in work in another city.

[High Priest]

Originally posted by chokeyourassout@Nov 12 2004, 02:10 AM
call it like you see it.
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http://home.iprimus.com.au/shaunhenderson/images/fag.jpg

[High Priest]

-Chokeyourassout ^(Wasnt able to edit above post)

Just because someone doesn't fit into the category of what you consider a writer/street artist to be, doesn't mean you can discredit their talent. I try not to get involved or say anything, after all it is your opinion and that's all that matter's but your reasoning is asinine. "He's doesnt bomb San Jose, so he's a phony." So following that logic, all other writers who dont "get up" in San Jose (Also, for ref. im pretty sure he's located in SF) are "TOY." Is NECKFACE up in San Jose as well? You seem to love you some NECKFACE, so does the work he does over in Japan on vacation become invalid, like you stated with choes? Bottom line is, know one on here is saying you have to like his work, fermentor666 was just pointing out that your logic is flawed. End.

[chokeyourassout]

Originally posted by High Priest@Nov 11 2004, 11:37 PM
-Chokeyourassout ^(Wasnt able to edit above post)

Just because someone doesn't fit into the category of what you consider a writer/street artist to be, doesn't mean you can discredit their talent. I try not to get involved or say anything, after all it is your opinion and that's all that matter's but your reasoning is asinine. "He's doesnt bomb San Jose, so he's a phony." So following that logic, all other writers who dont "get up" in San Jose (Also, for ref. im pretty sure he's located in SF) are "TOY." Is NECKFACE up in San Jose as well? You seem to love you some NECKFACE, so does the work he does over in Japan on vacation become invalid, like you stated with choes? Bottom line is, know one on here is saying you have to like his work, fermentor666 was just pointing out that your logic is flawed. End.
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you really missed the point, man. i dont care how good or bad his art is. that WAS NEVER THE POINT.

And yes his does live in san jose or did for many years and he didn't do shit. thats a fact.
What did he do in LA nothing.

"So following that logic, all other writers who dont "get up" in San Jose (Also, for ref. im pretty sure he's located in SF) are "TOY.""

doesn't make you toy, it makes you a phony by say'n you are a street artist. but never killed any streets.

"Is NECKFACE up in San Jose as well"
no but i'm sure he would be if he lived in san jose. for that matter Neckface is up in SF
is david choe NO and never has been.
as well, neckface lives in NYC and yes is up in NYC...can you denie that?

[chokeyourassout]

"so does the work he does over in Japan on vacation become invalid"

pretty much if you never did shit in the US. its like he went to japan and acted like he was some big time USA street artist, witch really is not true.


street art doesnt include a tunnel and the back of a hair salon you did some art in.

[fermentor666]

You are 15.

[High Priest]

Originally posted by chokeyourassout@Nov 12 2004, 06:05 AM
"so does the work he does over in Japan on vacation become invalid"

pretty much if you never did shit in the US. its like he went to japan and acted like he was some big time USA street artist, witch really is not true.


street art doesnt include a tunnel and the back of a hair salon you did some art in.
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Where did i miss the point, you said earlier that neckface is a better artist, and thats obviously in regards to content. Also, have you actually talked with david choe? Have you asked him wether or not he consider's himself a "BIG TIME USA STREET ARTIST" ? How does living somewhere, choosing or not doing graffiti at the time suddenly make all the work you have done not valid. As far as "street art" being a matter of location, ever heard of the belmont tunnel? Its a tunnel isnt it, and a pretty signifigant spot in LA. What about the LA river, are all the pieces there any less illegal just because they arent done directly on the street? Like i said earlier, it's all cool to have a diff. opinion, just not always the best idea to voice it if you cant back it up with a logical argument/ approach.

[heavyLox]

logical argument/ approach

as Bush has so adeptly proven, this is less and less a prerequisite for action/talk.

[chokeyourassout]

you need to reread what i wrote, i never said neckface was a better artist then DC. I said DC's so called street work IE. whales and some ugle skull's are not any better then neckface's shit.
so don't mis quote me.

AGAIN STOP DODGING THE PIONT. ITS NOT ABOUT WHO IS A BETTER ARTIST, ITS ABOUT WHO IS A REAL BOMBER!

"suddenly make all the work you have done not valid."


All of what work? Thats my points, i have never seen DC up. mabye all of ten photos.
and only about 5 from the US...and most of them are tunnels or pussy shots. cuz he has never been up in san jose or SF. and thats a fact.

"As far as "street art" being a matter of location, ever heard of the belmont tunnel? Its a tunnel isnt it, and a pretty signifigant spot in LA. What about the LA river, are all the pieces there any less illegal just because they arent done directly on the street? Like i said earlier, it's all cool to have a diff. opinion, just not always the best idea to voice it if you cant back it up with a logical argument/ approach."

What a fuckn joke. Tunnels are not street bombing, please dont get it twisted. haha yea its illegal. but that shit is pussy you can't just do a tunnel or a creek bed and think your a street bomber.
nobody sees that shit except your peers, bum and crackheads. and taking photos of tunnel shit
and post'n it on the web dont equal being a street bomber.

Ok lets call them tunnel artist not street artist. yu have to do everything to be called a street artist (bomber)
you must not know what bombing really is...streets are billboards, roof tops, garbge cans, mailboxs etc. being up or have been mad up in your life.

"You are 15."

ya ok, nice comment

[fermentor666]

DAV1D CH03 RULZ U DR00LS OMG FLAMED!!!!!!



:burn: :burn: :burn: :burn: :burn: :burn:


YOU = :hatred:

[MOOGLE?]

....thats gotta be the best response i have ever seen on 12oz..





fermentor gets my seal of aproval




O___O! -rock

[vptonbing]

saw his stuff in a beautiful decay magazine not too long ago, not bad!

[Bone$]

Dude's friends with Saber and has his own Montana color I'm pretty sure. More credibilitiy than you.

[Ride A Bike]

haha this thread suckz

[Dawood]

word, thread
bootsy

[serum]

David Choe is our favorite Korean American ex-criminal genius artist. He is also our favorite daring world traveler, who has tackled trips that would make most men turn and run in terror. He’s the guy who traveled deep into the jungles of the Congo on The Vice Guide to Travel DVD, for god’s sake.

For the first season of his VBS series Thumbs Up!, David traveled from coast to coast across America — hitchhiking and hopping freight trains the whole way.

Oh, and all the music you’ll hear in Thumbs Up is by Toronto, Canada’s own Fucked Up — one of our favorite punk bands right now. Shit, they’re one of our favorite any kind of bands right now.

http://www.vbs.tv/shows/index.php?show=Thumbs%20Up!

[castro]

you need to reread what i wrote, i never said neckface was a better artist then DC. I said DC's so called street work IE. whales and some ugle skull's are not any better then neckface's shit.
so don't mis quote me.

AGAIN STOP DODGING THE PIONT. ITS NOT ABOUT WHO IS A BETTER ARTIST, ITS ABOUT WHO IS A REAL BOMBER!

"suddenly make all the work you have done not valid."


All of what work? Thats my points, i have never seen DC up. mabye all of ten photos.


if you're judging how up he is by how many photos you see on the web and/or in magazines, I think that pretty much nulifies your argument, and proves you're just really a fucking jealous toy.

[coachmcguirk]

david choe movie trailer:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=18Y9dbB7MaY

[FAche]

Hey... I'm not sure if this has been mentioned yet but David Choe has a short film out called Whales and Orgies an another full length documentary coming out soon called Dirty Hands. You can see a trailer for Dirty Hands at http://www.dirtyhandsmovie.com

I also think YouTube has the full version of Whales and Orgies available.

I find his work to be very inspiring.

[FAche]

Wow... my bad. I just noticed the previous post.

[acephale]

Dude racks his cans and has probably bombed harder than 90% of the fools on this forum... A+ in my book. I don't even necesarrily like what he does, but it's probably better than what you do, so stop bitching. Oh yeah, you see him on 12oz arguing about whose toy or whose art fag or whatever blah blah internet bullshit? Yeah...

[Michael Richard]

bump.

[mental invalid]

lovers and haters,

season 2 starts now. episode 1 up now. Tijuana to North Pole.

trains, planes, and automobiles.

#1 - http://www.vbs.tv/player.php?bctid=1293598942&bccl=MTI5ODM1NjU5OV9fRVRD


youre welcome

MV

[Yeah666]

David choe way back in the day
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l56/KJR06/18.jpg
http://i93.photobucket.com/albums/l56/KJR06/17.jpg

[Anti-Aesthetics]

all right but I prefer a more cohesive style + my mom paints whales...what can I say...

[Tom Brady's Smile]

I used to love this guy's stuff like 4-5 years ago. A little too late for me.

[Omega Man]

David Choe does that Thumbs up series on VBSTV.com- anyone watch it? Pretty funny.

[yinz n'at]

i like the whales

[ghij890]

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