CAPS sooperthread

[tha whut]

kilz + rusto fat u get some dusty lines

good for flairs imo

[tha whut]

i had a astro fat and a silver fat

i turned the silver fat into a female cap the lines dont come out as fat cuz i think i messed it up a lil but it still works fine

but i fucked up on the astro

[Asian Eater]

graff companies shud make there valves like rusto

or they shud make capps that are for rusto

so i cansz b3 usinz and pink dotz on my canz of rustozski

Lol...you're good with a Rusto fat tip. Lets not get spoiled. They also work lovely on OSH cans

[eviltrailer77]

thats because rusto makes OSH, its the same can and valve.

[Asian Eater]

thats because rusto makes OSH, its the same can and valve.

Pretty much. And is it just me or has OSH paint gotten somewhat better over time???

[STYLEISKING]

http://www.cloutonline.com/images/clout-store/supplies/tip_white_beige.jpg

[Asian Eater]

^Isn't that for fading or something?

[Rustofills]

A cap just for fades? Thats silly.

[Asian Eater]

A cap just for fades? Thats silly.

You'd be surprised.

[Rustofills]

No I wouldnt.

[Asian Eater]

I guess

[*GRIN*]

graff companies shud make there valves like rusto

or they shud make capps that are for rusto

so i cansz b3 usinz and pink dotz on my canz of rustozski

OINKARTLTD.COM
THE SEKT CAP ADAPTER, 1.25
YOU CAN USE ALL KINDS OF CAPS, MIX PAINT BETWEEN CANS AND FILL AXE CANS AND SHIT.
GOOD INVESTMENT FOR SURE.

[tha whut]

OINKARTLTD.COM
THE SEKT CAP ADAPTER, 1.25
YOU CAN USE ALL KINDS OF CAPS, MIX PAINT BETWEEN CANS AND FILL AXE CANS AND SHIT.
GOOD INVESTMENT FOR SURE.

i ment the regular female rusto cans

not the male valve cans for the male valve i just do the sex change for caps

[Pew_Pew_Pew]

Ordered some orange NY thins and boston fats off of Trout's site yesterday. Looking forward to testing out the boston fats.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

hope you like the orange ones, I have a whole bag of them and kept thinking they were Cheetos :)

[9WoN8eR]

Ordered some orange NY thins and boston fats off of Trout's site yesterday. Looking forward to testing out the boston fats.

those celtic fats are suhweet!

[orarok08]

What about these Gator Caps? Any info on these?

http://www.004connec.com/graffiti_art_supplies2/images/evolvegaterfatcapbig.jpg

[szr]

So I deff learned my lesson. DO NOT use Montana gold fats on rusto shit will spray out like crazy

[szr]

I use valspar stocks, elmers spray glue caps for fats, and the Montana orange dot I just got worked, amd the grey/silver Montana cap I think it was called German outline was aight, but my gold Montana fat didn't work and niether did my Montana pink dot :(
I've never had Graf caps before i was let down I guess they're just for euro paint

[ugene]

kilz caps ftw

[george carlin]

Rusto is changing all of their spray paint to the male valve system but you can use these caps on em and they work great!http://cgi.ebay.com/12-FEMALE-NY-FAT-CAPS-TIPS-NEW-YORK-SPRAY-PAINT-RUSTO-/220687076876?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3361f98e0c

[Rustofills]

Rusto is changing all of their spray paint to the male valve system but you can use these caps on em and they work great!http://cgi.ebay.com/12-FEMALE-NY-FAT-CAPS-TIPS-NEW-YORK-SPRAY-PAINT-RUSTO-/220687076876?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item3361f98e0c
Or you could just go on TROUTARTSUPPLY.com and order these starting at 8 bucks for 50 like I do.
http://www.troutartsupply.com/produc...50Pk-pid5.html (http://www.troutartsupply.com/product-info.php?Female_Thin_50Pk-pid5.html)
http://www.troutartsupply.com/avactis-images/stormtroopasmall.jpghttp://www.troutartsupply.com/avactis-images/fthinsmall.jpg
Its much cheaper buying them from there.

[orarok08]

My personal choice for the valve switch, would be the AP Precise Cap. Handles very well and clean thin lines.

http://artprimo.com/catalog/images/spray_paint_caps/art-primo-precise-cap.jpg

[Rustofills]

My personal choice for the valve switch, would be the AP Precise Cap. Handles very well and clean thin lines.

http://artprimo.com/catalog/images/spray_paint_caps/art-primo-precise-cap.jpg
Art primo isnt bad, But I can't open the site most the time. Actually I havent been able to for a while now.

[9WoN8eR]

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1334/5110930067_765fd4dc18.jpg

Boston Celtic Fat goes with this Fern Rusto like Peas and Carrots!

[tha whut]

OR

u can get some regular rusto fats take a razor blade cut of the stem get a 1/8th drill bit

then u just stick it in there no need for a drill

[Paintin Manning]

What about these Gator Caps? Any info on these?

http://www.004connec.com/graffiti_art_supplies2/images/evolvegaterfatcapbig.jpg

Was wondering about these too. They look sweet, and 004connec is always on point with pretty much everything.

[DEEN XMEN]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs930.snc4/74388_158153584222859_100000846554425_273045_37378 55_n.jpg

WHOOOO!

BOSTON FATS!! KILLER COMBO!

Killer combo ©RUSTOFILLS all rights reserved!

[esar71]

Looking forward to trying that combo..71 I still have a few of the old red rusto stock caps , new . I bust one out here and there for a first outline or sometimes a fill outline for fun . If you can rock with that you'll only paint better with a Rusto fat or new york thin,etc..7deeone

[szr]

Is rusto really going to switch to male valve? What would they gain out of that with cap assorted and female caps.

Oh and as far as good caps for rusting use the caps off Elmer's Craft Bond for fats, available in the art section at walmart. And Valspar stock caps! That's really all I need haha. And they're free

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

SZR,

Rusto is going on market trends (comfort tips, 360 degree spray) similar to Krylon's light touch valve with 360 degree spray. Also, its probably a cheaper supplier as well. Each component of a spray can is pretty much supplied by a different vendors. Cans come from one or two factories who make cans, valves come from a few different companies who make valves, and the caps are supplied with the valve to ensure compatibility. Each vendor offers different pricing and different options, leaving it up to the paint company to decide the best fit for them. When you're talking the quantity Rusto is doing, they're probably getting their valves super cheap - add to that the fact they are already using that valve and getting by with it, it would make sense they would switch the whole product offering to that style, eliminating the need for different vendors.

[szr]

Wow, that was the most senseable, informable answer I've ever gotten on 12oz haha

[orarok08]

Fats on the Rusto Universal is so nice!

[ShyGuyLurking]

damn bigmetal. that was outstandingly informative. especially for 12oz. haha.

[injury]

http://www.cloutonline.com/images/clout-store/supplies/tip_white_beige.jpg

These are awesome.. Similar to NY fats but softer.

And if you can't fade with an aerosol product... what are you going with your life..?

[tha whut]

wats the best way to carry caps while your bombin?

[injury]

in ur butt br0

[tha whut]

tried that but when i took it out the cap clogged up from all the shit

[dontlookback]

These are awesome.. Similar to NY fats but softer.

And if you can't fade with an aerosol product... what are you going with your life..?

i agree this cap is dope.

but a quick question if i may? have you ever used a new york fat on anything besides european paint? on anything besides premium aerosol art marketed paint?

[injury]

Yeah, i use them on old valve krylon... sometimes rusto if i get lucky & it fits.
why?

[gxcxhxcx]

wats the best way to carry caps while your bombin?

are you fucking serious!?

[tha whut]

yes im very serious

i wud keep them in pockets but if the cops pat you down and they find u gettin bagged

i keeped them in a those ziplock bags but them shits was anooyin to get out

[NoLossEnds]

You sound like the kind of kid that needs someone to hold his dick for him when taken a piss, and don't make attempt to make a come back with something like. Na just your Mom or something along those lines. Because you already failed. Please get the fuck out of here with your stupid questions.

[tha whut]

oh and i forgot

how u fill up a shoe polish mop??

[dontlookback]

Yeah, i use them on old valve krylon... sometimes rusto if i get lucky & it fits.
why?

It's just crazy hearing people compare thins to fatcaps. And I woulda said the beige dot is closer to ny thins.

[CAN]

what kind of cap is this?

http://www.horrorseek.com/home/halloween/wolfstone/PropsMisc/grsdet_SprayPaintNozzle.jpg

[Rustofills]

what kind of cap is this?

http://www.horrorseek.com/home/halloween/wolfstone/PropsMisc/grsdet_SprayPaintNozzle.jpg

Are you serious!?

[UnOuTi]

lol word....and you can use ny fat on anything , just stick a pencil in the stem to wwiden it and bam..simple

[CAN]

Are you serious!?

^^ ny look,in some weird color,yep i'm serious,we dont have em here in europe...

[injenear]

how the fuck do you have full neg rep with 70 posts??

Its a stock cap, thats usually found on Rustoleum.

[Rustofills]

^^ ny look,in some weird color,yep i'm serious,we dont have em here in europe...


Oh, thats why. Well in that case. Just like the guy said above me. It looks like a standard Rusto stock tip. Once in a while I see them on random cheapo cans, but not often.

[tha whut]

boston fat vs regular rusto fat

[Pew_Pew_Pew]

Can was banned at one point for shit like this. 70 consecutive ridiculous posts gets tampons. Heavvvyy flow

[Rustofills]

boston fat vs regular rusto fat

They are both great caps if you ask me. But I have been leaning torwards Boston fats more over the past couple of years. For two main reasons. Sound and you don't burn threw paint as fast. But normal Rusto fats are what you want if your moving to fill it super fast. Either or they both work the way you want them you. Its all personal choice.

[DEEN XMEN]

LOL Pew

[DEEN XMEN]

They are both great caps if you ask me. But I have been leaning torwards Boston fats more over the past couple of years. For two main reasons. Sound and you don't burn threw paint as fast. But normal Rusto fats are what you want if your moving to fill it super fast. Either or they both work the way you want them you. Its all personal choice.

Boston fats are ergonomically fit for your fingers and doesn't make them hurt.
These are the perfect caps for the diva artists with weak fingers or girls that out there.. I really can't tell the difference between the 2 of them lol..

The caps work magic and they are AMERICAN Made. Which you guys know is a huge sticking point for me.

[DEEN XMEN]

Ps: I still love the NY FATs and NY Skinnies as well .. always gives you the ol' school Beat Street Feeling :)

[injury]

NY OUTLINES ARE BOMB...

[Rustofills]

http://www.troutartsupply.com/avactis-images/halloweenythinslg.jpg

[DEEN XMEN]

http://www.troutartsupply.com/avactis-images/halloweenythinslg.jpg

If you gonna post something like that then you have to give a description! You know lots of people on here are a lil slowy or in special ed lol!

The Cap Above in the picture is a "Special Edition RED/ORANGE NY FAT Cap" Once they're gone that's it.. so grab em while you can.. cuz they won't be made again!

@TROUTARTSUPPLY .COM

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Deen,

If you're gonna post a description, you gotta post the right one :)
We didn't go with the orange NY Fats I showed you - we ended up doing orange NY Thins as a special Halloween edition - but they are also helpful if you paint at night or if you are new to painting. Having them bright orange like that enables you to tell the difference between the thins and fats when reaching in the bag in low light or if you're so toy like I was back in the day that you don't know whats what. AND, we got a lot of awesome feedback on them so we may end up ordering more down the road - for now there aren't many left though!

The only downside is every time I pack an order with them I think it's a giant bag of Cheetos!

[Pew_Pew_Pew]

nom nom nom

[Rustofills]

Bigmetal just reminded me of a story.

Once years ago. I was triping balls on some cid and got hungry. ( I used to store my supplys in the kitchen cabinets. ) Anyhow, I reached into one of the cabinets and grabbed what my twisted mind thought was a bag of Cereal. Dumped them into a bowl and poured milk all over a bowl full of NY fats. Naturally I noticed when I had a mouth full that something was wrong.

[UnOuTi]

lol! thats awesome man..my days for trippin are over..although painting and buggin out sounds fun( and dangerous) specially if trackside..

[DEEN XMEN]

BMC: My bad.. I tried :) Regardless awesome caps :)

[Rustofills]

Unouti. Same here.i havent gotton cosmic in a long long long time..

Im feeling much better now. lol

[esar71]

Is there any difference in the performance , or is it just the color change, for promotional purposes?

[Lemonjello Jones]

Those trout fats are like an orange dot if you go far back enough with a can of PT. I like em' more than rusto fats now! Mainly because that annoying whistle is now gone.

[Rustofills]

I cant stand the Rusto Fat WHISTLE sound. Shit used to make me nuts.

[Lemonjello Jones]

Also, a pro to the female valve system. All those female aerosol caps on bug sprays and hair sprays and shit like that now work on rusto. I've already found some really nice thin caps looking around the store. ;)

[STYLEISKING]

http://www.grafcaps.com/bmz_cache/5/56c1f32c241e9240c724127385c1f626.image.224x180.jpg
The one and only HEX TGO. A unique individual who was about 15 years ahead of the curve. An inspiration to me, and I’m sure many others. If you don’t already know about this man and his legacy from the late 80′s and early 90′s for the city of Los Angeles, then you need to get off my blog and throw out all your fancy Euro paint. Everything this guy did was with Krylon, and he is widely recognized as the one who invented what we referred to in the 90′s as the “Lightening Cap” or “Stencil Cap”, Ive heard of it called other things, but it basically was the center of an older Krylon Cap cut out, with a pin hole melted through the front, so when the can was sprayed at the hole only a small amount of actual paint would make it through and you could get these pin sized lines, for highlights, glows, electricity, whatever…. Now days they sell these caps, and in my honest opinion, this man, wherever he is, should be catchin’ a royalty check for each one sold…

Here’s one that I found online, that is called a “Stencil Cap” – why?? I have no idea, you don’t paint stencils with it.. idiots.

This is how I was taught in I would say around ’94?
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/5171961692_2689d23a77_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/5171961700_cc20e5de3c_z.jpg
We’d always use a Krylon cap cuz’ the plastic was bendy, apposed to Rusto that was a harder plastic and would crack if pressed on.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4154/5171961708_2e6a1f0a14.jpg
step one done.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4130/5171961714_13ae17cfe3.jpg
we would trace a finger’s shape, and leave a bit of the bottom of the cap as support , to also help “snap” back into place onto the can top later.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4108/5171961718_b8060452ba.jpg
You see what’s goin on here?
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/5171365555_fc21d1f62a.jpg
at this point you’d look to where the spray line would line up, spin the cap around forward, and equate a lil’ lower due to the pressed down cap, and make a mark with a sharpie. then either using a razor blade or a heated up coat hanger you’s poke your hole on the front. I’ve seen some fancy shmancy designs over the years, Stars, X’s, 3 dots….

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4147/5171365563_6888b47266_z.jpg
as you can see, the hole is a little lower then the relaxed cap face.
And it should be pretty obvious that the paint that doesn’t make it through the hole builds up inside the cap, so you have to do a few lines, then dump the build up before it leaks all over your hand. And there you have what I would prefer to call a HEX CAP. But make no confusion, if you’re a toy, this tool won’t make you fresh, a complete understanding of how this can be utilized to create things you envision but don’t want to spend all day making cut backs to create, this can save you time, and paint if used correctly. I know till this day there are some writers who’s whole style is based on using these caps to fool their audience into thinking they have this can control and don’t realize a real writer can use anything (car paint and stock caps) and still come off fresh. Don’t be one of those one trick pony writers who spends their whole career using a crutch to get by. But at the same time, don’t be ignorant to the tools that are out there, just use them in moderation. Everything should be done with moderation. Or it becomes your crutch that you can’t get by without. And for me, if I’m battling you, those are the things I’m going to pick apart.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/5171365565_cf40ba5cf8.jpg
end result is a small line. Saturday Nov. 13th/
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/5171365569_1132017d0a_z.jpg

Respect to HEX TGO, my inspiration on this Saturday Nov. 13th. 2010.

[Stakk]

I thought Estria invented that cap??? http://estria.net/index.php?s=85

[szr]

I bought some gold fats and astro fats and niether one work with rusto. Is there a cap similar to these I can get that's compatible with rusto..the fattestive found are orange dots and Elmer craft bond caps.

[Stakk]

Szr, the way I do it is wrap the stem of the cap with a small strip of pvc tape. I use 10 mil. If u use the thinner kind you might have to wrap it twice. It makes it fit the can real snug and it wont leak. The only thing is sometimes when you remove the cap the tape slips off and you need to re-tape it.

[szr]

PVC tape? Is that like black electrical tape?
It's so annoyin Bc rusto is the best American paint brand for tagging but no one makes caps for them.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

SZR,

People make caps for the new and old type of Rusto, you just have to know where to look.

[szr]

Well I want something as fat as a astro or gold fat..I got skinny, medium, and medium fats. I just need them ultra fats for booming and flares.

[DEEN XMEN]

Well I want something as fat as a astro or gold fat..I got skinny, medium, and medium fats. I just need them ultra fats for booming and flares.

Why don't you just go with the Trout Art Supply Boston Fats?

They FLARE like crazy, people don't seem to get it that Euro caps are mainly tailored for "low pressure" paints and not for a high pressure paint like a Rusto etc.

For you people that don't know the full valve change to a male valve is in full effect. You'll be lucky if you get a female valve can after Dec.

[DEEN XMEN]

http://www.grafcaps.com/bmz_cache/5/56c1f32c241e9240c724127385c1f626.image.224x180.jpg
The one and only HEX TGO. A unique individual who was about 15 years ahead of the curve. An inspiration to me, and I’m sure many others. If you don’t already know about this man and his legacy from the late 80′s and early 90′s for the city of Los Angeles, then you need to get off my blog and throw out all your fancy Euro paint. Everything this guy did was with Krylon, and he is widely recognized as the one who invented what we referred to in the 90′s as the “Lightening Cap” or “Stencil Cap”, Ive heard of it called other things, but it basically was the center of an older Krylon Cap cut out, with a pin hole melted through the front, so when the can was sprayed at the hole only a small amount of actual paint would make it through and you could get these pin sized lines, for highlights, glows, electricity, whatever…. Now days they sell these caps, and in my honest opinion, this man, wherever he is, should be catchin’ a royalty check for each one sold…

Here’s one that I found online, that is called a “Stencil Cap” – why?? I have no idea, you don’t paint stencils with it.. idiots.

This is how I was taught in I would say around ’94?
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/5171961692_2689d23a77_b.jpg
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4083/5171961700_cc20e5de3c_z.jpg
We’d always use a Krylon cap cuz’ the plastic was bendy, apposed to Rusto that was a harder plastic and would crack if pressed on.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4154/5171961708_2e6a1f0a14.jpg
step one done.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4130/5171961714_13ae17cfe3.jpg
we would trace a finger’s shape, and leave a bit of the bottom of the cap as support , to also help “snap” back into place onto the can top later.

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4108/5171961718_b8060452ba.jpg
You see what’s goin on here?
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4113/5171365555_fc21d1f62a.jpg
at this point you’d look to where the spray line would line up, spin the cap around forward, and equate a lil’ lower due to the pressed down cap, and make a mark with a sharpie. then either using a razor blade or a heated up coat hanger you’s poke your hole on the front. I’ve seen some fancy shmancy designs over the years, Stars, X’s, 3 dots….

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4147/5171365563_6888b47266_z.jpg
as you can see, the hole is a little lower then the relaxed cap face.
And it should be pretty obvious that the paint that doesn’t make it through the hole builds up inside the cap, so you have to do a few lines, then dump the build up before it leaks all over your hand. And there you have what I would prefer to call a HEX CAP. But make no confusion, if you’re a toy, this tool won’t make you fresh, a complete understanding of how this can be utilized to create things you envision but don’t want to spend all day making cut backs to create, this can save you time, and paint if used correctly. I know till this day there are some writers who’s whole style is based on using these caps to fool their audience into thinking they have this can control and don’t realize a real writer can use anything (car paint and stock caps) and still come off fresh. Don’t be one of those one trick pony writers who spends their whole career using a crutch to get by. But at the same time, don’t be ignorant to the tools that are out there, just use them in moderation. Everything should be done with moderation. Or it becomes your crutch that you can’t get by without. And for me, if I’m battling you, those are the things I’m going to pick apart.
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4008/5171365565_cf40ba5cf8.jpg
end result is a small line. Saturday Nov. 13th/
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4103/5171365569_1132017d0a_z.jpg

Respect to HEX TGO, my inspiration on this Saturday Nov. 13th. 2010.


STYLE Thank you for posting this.. not many know the true history of alot of stuff.

FUCKING BEAUTIFUL POST MAN.. ONCE AGAIN THANK YOU..

[Punc_one_ev]

I bought some gold fats and astro fats and niether one work with rusto. Is there a cap similar to these I can get that's compatible with rusto..the fattestive found are orange dots and Elmer craft bond caps.

what about stretching it out a little with a pair of scissors or something?

**Placing blades inside hole and stretching it to fit snug? I have a problem with quick color and fat caps leaking like a tap water faucet. Last night my hands were covered. Stuff is cheap and good for just bombing but the stock caps suck.

[szr]

Why don't you just go with the Trout Art Supply Boston Fats?

They FLARE like crazy, people don't seem to get it that Euro caps are mainly tailored for "low pressure" paints and not for a high pressure paint like a Rusto etc.

For you people that don't know the full valve change to a male valve is in full effect. You'll be lucky if you get a female valve can after Dec.

I'll check it out thanks.

[Asian Eater]

what about stretching it out a little with a pair of scissors or something?

**Placing blades inside hole and stretching it to fit snug? I have a problem with quick color and fat caps leaking like a tap water faucet. Last night my hands were covered. Stuff is cheap and good for just bombing but the stock caps suck.

Walmart dollar cans with a rusto fat never leaks.

[szr]

Why don't you just go with the Trout Art Supply Boston Fats?

They FLARE like crazy, people don't seem to get it that Euro caps are mainly tailored for "low pressure" paints and not for a high pressure paint like a Rusto etc.

For you people that don't know the full valve change to a male valve is in full effect. You'll be lucky if you get a female valve can after Dec.

the caps from elmers craft bond look very similar to these boston fats, i wonder if theyre not the same

SIDE NOTE: if anyone wants a very high pressure cap jack the cap off this

http://www.lowes.com/pd_241324-1361-WCOIL_4294859079+5003695_4294937087_?productId=312 3857&Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr%7C0%7C%7Cp_product_qu antity_sold%7C1&pl=1&currentURL=%2Fpl_Air%2BConditioners%2BFans%2Band%2 BDehumidifiers_4294859079%2B5003695_4294937087_%3F Ns%3Dp_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr%7C0%7C%7Cp_product_ quantity_sold%7C1

its coil cleaner for air conditioners and it sprays pretty damn hard you can be like 3 feet away and still spray a tag on the wall, i think these might be sold as blaster caps on art primo but hey these are free, i think the same caps are on textured rusto cans, for like fake rock spray paint

[tha whut]

you can get nice caps on the easy off oven cleaners

the yellow one has a skinny line

the blue can is like a rusto fat

FOR MALE VALVE CANS

[DEEN XMEN]

You can jack caps off the alot of other cans.. GUESS WHAT!

THIS IS THE VERY REASON THAT RUSTO AND EVERYONE ELSE STARTED CHANGING THEIR VALVE SYSTEMS

Now you get to use just what it comes with.

I know this for a fact from the very mouths of some of the big wig execs in the paint game.

Spend the few cents and buy some caps, use some common sense.

[DEEN XMEN]

the caps from elmers craft bond look very similar to these boston fats, i wonder if theyre not the same

SIDE NOTE: if anyone wants a very high pressure cap jack the cap off this

http://www.lowes.com/pd_241324-1361-WCOIL_4294859079+5003695_4294937087_?productId=312 3857&Ns=p_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr%7C0%7C%7Cp_product_qu antity_sold%7C1&pl=1&currentURL=%2Fpl_Air%2BConditioners%2BFans%2Band%2 BDehumidifiers_4294859079%2B5003695_4294937087_%3F Ns%3Dp_product_prd_lis_ord_nbr%7C0%7C%7Cp_product_ quantity_sold%7C1

its coil cleaner for air conditioners and it sprays pretty damn hard you can be like 3 feet away and still spray a tag on the wall, i think these might be sold as blaster caps on art primo but hey these are free, i think the same caps are on textured rusto cans, for like fake rock spray paint

Just cuz they look the same does not mean they are same.. Just like Montana caps they all look the same and give off different types of sprays.

Those caps were specifically engineered for Rustos and their valve system.

Artissin paints has the same exact valve system as Rusto cans ..that's why Boston Fats work on them so well.

[tha whut]

deen spittin the truth

[Cro.]

You can jack caps off the alot of other cans.. GUESS WHAT!

THIS IS THE VERY REASON THAT RUSTO AND EVERYONE ELSE STARTED CHANGING THEIR VALVE SYSTEMS

Now you get to use just what it comes with.

I know this for a fact from the very mouths of some of the big wig execs in the paint game.

Spend the few cents and buy some caps, use some common sense.

a lot of the non-paint sprays have male valves and you can take their caps for rusto now when you never could before.

he said for male valves in his post.
unless there's something about rusto's valve system that makes you unable to use other can's caps

[DEEN XMEN]

I am talking bout caps period.. when you ruin someone elses' products for a few cents;
Everyone loses, the companies lose money because the customer is returning the product for a refund or a replacement. Cost money to ship it back as well. This ULTIMATELY costs the prices of products to go up.

In the case of Rusto and Krylon .. I can't speak for Krylon but I can speak for RPM who owns RUSTOLEUM. The valve change was caused specifically by people ruining other products for caps to work on Rusto. It is not a market trend like some think, 2 of the execs visit me at my office frequently so I bs with them all the time.

Seriously though you dudes can go to Trout Art Supply, Oink or anywhere you choose and get caps for dirt cheap.

Don't help fuck up the paint game for a few cents..

[Cro.]

i understand what you were saying now.
but aren't they just going to change which can's caps get jacked?
seems like more cans have female caps.
plus female valve caps are a little harder to find, and you don't get the variety that you do with the male.
this seems like it would drive people to take other caps just to experiment.

[szr]

^agreed most non paint cans have female caps so once all cans change to male valves theirs a new world of caps out to take

[Asian Eater]

Are these Boston fats quiet? I'm hoping they aren't as loud as the regular Rusto fats...I think that's what alerted the guard a couple of nights ago.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Quieter than Rusto fats but a little louder than a NY Fat.

[STYLEISKING]

http://www.oinkartltd.com/images/productHeaderLogos/sektAdapter.jpg
http://www.oinkartltd.com/pdfImages/oinkPdfCaps1.jpg
http://artprimo.com/catalog/images/misc/AP-female-fat-web.jpg
http://artprimo.com/catalog/images/products/cap-sampler-female.jpg
http://artprimo.com/catalog/images/spray_paint_caps/art-primo-ez-rider-cap.jpg
Female Fat cap on the market. Finally a cap you can use for fillins and flares on your male cans. This cap features a comfortable contour feel for your finger and includes an over cap to protect against accidental sprays. The AP Female Fat Cap will spray about 4-5 fingers wide from about 12 inches away. This cap works well on MALE VALVE Painters Touch and American Accents spray paint cans (these are the cans with the stems sticking out of the valve).

[Rustofills]

Are these Boston fats quiet? I'm hoping they aren't as loud as the regular Rusto fats...I think that's what alerted the guard a couple of nights ago.

They make some sound. But nothing close to the Rusto fat. Unlike Rusto Fats, The level of sound from Boston Fats is comfortable, and for me anyhow, Not nearly as distracting or concerning.

[Stakk]

Caps Modified to fit on Male rusto cans-Pink Dot on Male PT 2x


http://img703.imageshack.us/img703/5369/1000257.jpg



Left side is pink dot, Right side is banana skinny. Any regular cap can be made to fit, without the adapter. Now that rusto is changing All cans male, we can use all of our favorite caps.

http://img38.imageshack.us/img38/2716/1000259ty.jpg

[tha whut]

sex change?

or ur own method?

[Cro.]

yeah how do you change the caps to fit?

[Stakk]

Ill take pics of the process and post it up.

[tha whut]

werddd

[Stakk]

This is how I modify my caps


http://img228.imageshack.us/img228/4069/11652270.jpg

^Heres what u need. The ink tube is out of a Gelly Roll pen. Its larger than regular pen tubes. Some Gelly Rolls are too big. You need the tube that is 11/64" in diameter. The drill bit is 1/8". Of course u also need a drill.


http://img146.imageshack.us/img146/6237/63843314.jpg

First, Bore out the ink tube with the drill bit. Try to drill it straight.


http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1699/76984087.jpg

Cut off a 1/4" piece of ink tube


http://img87.imageshack.us/img87/3588/25479238.jpg

Cut off half of the cap stem. It doesnt have to be perfect, but try to do it as straight as possible


http://img138.imageshack.us/img138/4580/16487854.jpg

Now, slip the ink tube onto the cap stem. (It will be a tight fit) Thats it!


http://img809.imageshack.us/img809/9608/40250430.jpg

As you can see, there is a gap between the cap and can, but the cap doesnt wiggle or move. It works great. If its too high for you, you can cut the cap stem shorter but u will need to super glue the tube on.

Yesss. I know i could just use the sekt adapter, but I never buy stuff I can make at home. I had all these things laying around at home anyway. Ive used many caps like this, and even with no glue I never had one leak yet. Enjoy.:)

[DEEN XMEN]

U got some good ideas there Stakk.. but it does seem like some serious work and dedication.

Me personally I'd go with the Boston Fats n Skinnies from Trout Art Supply for the new valves or you can do a 1 time deal for a few Sekt's from Oink art.

Either way all 3 are good .. just that some people are not that handy with tools or don't have the tools etc.

Nice work though Stakk.. and a great post!

[Cro.]

the boston fats and skinnies are female?

[DEEN XMEN]

the boston fats and skinnies are female?

There are versions from Trout that are for the male valves (new) and for the old valves (female).

[Cro.]

oh dope, i didnt know that.
i'm going to pick me up some when i get paidd

[dontlookback]

I am talking bout caps period.. when you ruin someone elses' products for a few cents;
Everyone loses, the companies lose money because the customer is returning the product for a refund or a replacement. Cost money to ship it back as well. This ULTIMATELY costs the prices of products to go up.

In the case of Rusto and Krylon .. I can't speak for Krylon but I can speak for RPM who owns RUSTOLEUM. The valve change was caused specifically by people ruining other products for caps to work on Rusto. It is not a market trend like some think, 2 of the execs visit me at my office frequently so I bs with them all the time.

Seriously though you dudes can go to Trout Art Supply, Oink or anywhere you choose and get caps for dirt cheap.

Don't help fuck up the paint game for a few cents..

the new valves are way better.....and no matter what they do to try and avoid the rack, its still gonna get racked and people are gonna figure ways around their solutions.

interesting that youre "BSing" with rusto execs.
Hope YOURE not fucking up the paint game to make your little profit.....breh. :lol:

Hope youre not there graffiti deterrent consultant.:lol:

[szr]

^^^doubtful, he's been pretty helpful to everyone on here so just be quiet

[dontlookback]

hes been pretty consistant on telling you to buy shit.

[szr]

No trouts the only place I've seen those Boston caps and they're all that really works for rusto. And he said ge the Sekt adpators Bc they're cheap and they're life long I have some it was worth spending less than 5 dollars than wasting my time modifying caps that I might fuck up on anyways..and he's a company owner so ya he's gonna support his products duh..

[STYLEISKING]

http://www.dedicated-store.de/wp2/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/dedicated_lx_flyer_capsv3.jpg

[Cro.]

What's the point of the needle caps?

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

skinny lines brah

[Cro.]

When I tried to use one paint just went fucking everywhere D:

[szr]

Ya I made one along time ago and it worked great and then I made another and it sucked. I wish i could remember what I did the first time

[DEEN XMEN]

No trouts the only place I've seen those Boston caps and they're all that really works for rusto. And he said ge the Sekt adpators Bc they're cheap and they're life long I have some it was worth spending less than 5 dollars than wasting my time modifying caps that I might fuck up on anyways..and he's a company owner so ya he's gonna support his products duh..


That toy is just a drama queen .. he probably don't even write .. 12 oz is his claim to fame lol.

I support little people and small companies especially those that support the graff culture.

Those caps are not my products and I don't even sell them so I don't even know what he's talking bout. Nothing wrong with letting people know what works good and what doesn't.

Props SZR!

[DEEN XMEN]

When I tried to use one paint just went fucking everywhere D:

Those needle nose caps are just a waste they are better used for transferring paint between cans .

[szr]

If u want a needle cap just get a stock cap off a colorplace or rusto, pop out the white dot and stick a WD-40 straw in the hole or a coffee straw depending on the size of it, some pen tubes might work too, but I've just used WD 40 straws..and then you cut the straw to desired length depending on how ou want it to spray

[orarok08]

http://www.dedicated-store.de/wp2/wp-content/uploads/2010/10/dedicated_lx_flyer_capsv3.jpg

Isn't that a NY Thin cap and not a NY Fat?

[tha whut]

yeaa its a ny skinny

[eviltrailer77]

LOL, That was the first thing I noticed when I saw it too. Plus they just shopped the phantom pink to show the "Ironlak Pink Fat"... I thought they where black.

[dontlookback]

That toy is just a drama queen .. he probably don't even write .. 12 oz is his claim to fame lol.

I support little people and small companies especially those that support the graff culture.

Those caps are not my products and I don't even sell them so I don't even know what he's talking bout. Nothing wrong with letting people know what works good and what doesn't.

Props SZR!



Damn you nailed it.

Anyone that listens to this guy is retarded.

[Asian Eater]

Those needle nose caps are just a waste they are better used for transferring paint between cans .


I've done this with PT into Beat and Montana cans.

The needle caps I purchase though are red, fat, and comfy to the finger. I guess they're pretty useful for catching higher tags. Not all pretty though, but at least its there.

[Juca]

for motip dupli color :

boston fat
ny thin
german outline #1 (from kobra) cuz montana's cap cant fit on dupli color valve,they have the same valve as old rusto.

[dontlookback]

oh....and when you use needle caps on a lindal valve with a low pressure can, with practice you'll be able to use the needle caps and get thin lines.

[Juca]

btw guys which cap works better on rusto,i mean which cap produces thinner lines,boston thin,elmers glue cap or ny thins,also which one is with lowest pressure. Thanks!

[ReackOne]

^^ Just get some rusto fats

[Juca]

^^ Just get some rusto fats

boston fats for me

[szr]

[QUOTE=Juca;7813341]btw guys which cap works better on rusto,i mean which cap produces thinner lines,boston thin,elmers glue cap or ny thins,also which one is with lowest pressure. Thanks![/QUe
Elmers are fat caps

[Juca]

[QUOTE=Juca;7813341]btw guys which cap works better on rusto,i mean which cap produces thinner lines,boston thin,elmers glue cap or ny thins,also which one is with lowest pressure. Thanks![/QUe
Elmers are fat caps

elmers cap that looks like a boston thin is fat cap?

[szr]

if youre talking about the caps off of elmers craft bond...the spray adhesive, yes its a fat cap and it works well on rusto. it has about the same width as an orange dot or rusto fat. its a medium sized fat cap.

[Asian Eater]

One more great thing about the needle cap is that you can spray on a wall/surface that has a fence in front of it. Sometimes, it creates too much of a gap to paint with regular tips. Might look a little grimey but you can catch spots that'll run for a while.

"The moar you know"

[Pew_Pew_Pew]

Just got a shipment in from Oink. I got one cap in a bag of freebies I've never seen before. It's a translucent blue cap....any idea what this is? Sprays nice and fat.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Most likely an Ironlak Reload Cap - knock off version of the Astro Fat.
http://ozgraff.com/img/p/284-813-thickbox.jpg

[Big Eric]

What's the point of the needle caps?

There was a few DIY products that came with this type of cap in the UK, we used them in early 90s, to mix our own colors, this was pre 'writer paint' days, 2 caps 1 tube, as for painting with......

[Big Eric]

random shit from flat scanner....

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5204/5223027486_d2c6a8feb8_z.jpg

[Big Eric]

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5169/5223036424_405238467a_z.jpg

[Darkeist]

if youre talking about the caps off of elmers craft bond...the spray adhesive, yes its a fat cap and it works well on rusto. it has about the same width as an orange dot or rusto fat. its a medium sized fat cap.

im guessing this doesnt work since allt he cans now are male?? o

[semorbutts]

If u want a needle cap just get a stock cap off a colorplace or rusto, pop out the white dot and stick a WD-40 straw in the hole or a coffee straw depending on the size of it, some pen tubes might work too, but I've just used WD 40 straws..and then you cut the straw to desired length depending on how ou want it to spray
good idea. you can do that with two rusto stock caps, connect the two with a straw then transfer paint between an empty montana and a full can of rusto white to help mix your own colors...
has anyone been successful at paint transfer from can 2 can before?

[Juca]

someone tried thoose caps? its red montana skinny

http://www.grafcaps.com/bmz_cache/7/761d5f9c6176a94444683cc0069e1d11.image.224x180.jpg

[szr]

im guessing this doesnt work since allt he cans now are male?? o

Everyone says they're switching but all the rusto where I live hasn't changed yet

[Asian Eater]

Everyone says they're switching but all the rusto where I live hasn't changed yet

Stock up while you can, I'd say. I'd keep one for collection. Hell, I have a couple of old Walmart Silvers that I refuse to use.

[szr]

Ahh they'll change caps I'm not trippin plus I have my Sekt cap adaptors... What changed about walmart silvers?

[tha whut]

they dont sell them no more

so try to stock up on those if u can get some

[szr]

Well I live in a suburb of Dallas Texas. So everyone come to Dallas and stock up lol

[Asian Eater]

Ahh they'll change caps I'm not trippin plus I have my Sekt cap adaptors... What changed about walmart silvers?

They don't exist anymore.

[szr]

Hmm didn't notice I mostly just do marker tags where I live Bc I love in the suburbs so it's too much heat to paint a lot out here so if I buy paint I get the good stuff. Either rusto or valspar. I hope valspar doesn't change over they have a great color collecetion and my favorite stock caps I use valspar stocks on all my cans..they're comfy :)

[ugene]

i think going around tagging shit is more sketch than picking a spot and painting it for 10 minutes or however long you wanna stay. n valspar aint the greatest

but i digress.

poor rusto whyd you have to get that operation!

[szr]

I don't have ten min where I live haha it's in and out unless you're in a chill spot which there's not many....valspars no rusto but it has good color choice

[Cro.]

i got 50 free black caps from oink
i looked it up and i think they're "ironlak black NY fats"
i never use ironlak
do they work on other cans

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

yes, anything with a Euro valve plus old Krylon

[ugene]

I don't have ten min where I live haha it's in and out unless you're in a chill spot which there's not many....valspars no rusto but it has good color choice

nah nigga you got time jus grow some.

used an orange dot on kilz last night. its shaped like the elmer cap, but it fits to your finger easier and its a nice medium fat cap, good for flares and filling in

[szr]

Ya they're the same and dont tell me to "grow some" you don't know me

[STYLEISKING]

http://blog.imerda.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/merda_dulux_web.jpg
http://blog.imerda.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/12/merda_dulux_cap_web.jpg
voted worst cap ever...

[Cro.]

Fuck the fan tips

[DEEN XMEN]

Fuck the fan tips


Most horrible tips ever.. I wonder why they couldn't just make them where they could've just removed them and put something else on.. :(

[Cro.]

"anti graffiti" bullshit.
if it wasn't for graf, rusto and krylon wouldn't be in the same place

[orarok08]

but by modifying the cap, I have been able to get thin lines with a stock cap.

[DEEN XMEN]

"anti graffiti" bullshit.
if it wasn't for graf, rusto and krylon wouldn't be in the same place

You so right CRO.. they wouldn't be banking the way they are if not from GRAFFITI!

[Cro.]

but by modifying the cap, I have been able to get thin lines with a stock cap.

doesn't seem worth the trouble to modify, since i mostly see them on krylon.
new krylon suuucks

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Did a little bit of research last night, appears that Sherwin Williams brands owns the trademark to the DanVern name - which is the name of the fan spray tip on the new 360 line. They also own a bunch of other interesting trademarks. Whats interesting about this is that it is possible that Sherwin Williams is also the manufacturer of the fan spray caps (my theory anyway) which would be why they've swapped to it for their whole line. Money saving bitches.

DEEN, any thoughts on this, is it possible that SW also produces the caps that they use instead of purchasing valves and caps from other manufacturers who specialize in these components?

[DEEN XMEN]

Did a little bit of research last night, appears that Sherwin Williams brands owns the trademark to the DanVern name - which is the name of the fan spray tip on the new 360 line. They also own a bunch of other interesting trademarks. Whats interesting about this is that it is possible that Sherwin Williams is also the manufacturer of the fan spray caps (my theory anyway) which would be why they've swapped to it for their whole line. Money saving bitches.

DEEN, any thoughts on this, is it possible that SW also produces the caps that they use instead of purchasing valves and caps from other manufacturers who specialize in these components?

Well I know for a fact that RPM-RUSTO changed their valves due to the whole anti graffiti bs and people destroying other products just for caps to work on Rusto.

As for Krylon who did that because of the anti graffiti crap they so heavily advertise and support. They are the investors on that particular product and own the patent on that tip. You can own a trademark on a "name" they just decided to slap a unique name on it for their own branding/advertising and marketing. It makes sense for them to "hype" it.

As for SW owning a "factory-manufacturing" entity just to make that stupid ass tip it is possible but highly unlikely. Doesn't make any sense cost wise to do this. Only way I see it being cost effective is if others were using that tip as well on products besides Krylon Spray Paint here which is not the case.

[DEEN XMEN]

ps: that pic that Style posted is heavily photoshopped. It is a doctored pic.

[Cro.]

In what way did they edit it?

[DEEN XMEN]

Look at the grainy picture of the can then focus on that tip.. there is no grainyness.

That can is very very old..those caps were created in the past 3 yrs.

I could be wrong also.. just looks that way to me. That can has a 5 ball design like Krylon cept the balls are elongated.

[Cro.]

i can dig it.
i dont see the significance of the editing or why anyone would bother, though

[DEEN XMEN]

i can dig it.
i dont see the significance of the editing or why anyone would bother, though

There's a ton of manipulated pics on 12oz!

[eviltrailer77]

Deen, that stupid fucking fan cap has been around for at least 20+ years. I remember it being on "Dutch Boy" as far back as '91.

[DEEN XMEN]

Deen, that stupid fucking fan cap has been around for at least 20+ years. I remember it being on "Dutch Boy" as far back as '91.

Ha ha.. Very true Evil I just looked at some pics of some..
Like I said "I could be wrong also" I had a hunch but wasn't so sure. I just seen pics of Red Devils with them on Flickr.

Thanks for veryifying Evil!

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

DEEN,

I wasn't talking about Rusto - just Sherwin Williams. Dupli-color (USA) has been using those tips since they came out, and Sherwin Williams is a huge company - I think it may be possible that it is their in house cap and that they have it custom produced or produce it on site. Also, Dutch Boy is made by Sherwin Williams as well. I know other brands use that 360/DanVern cap, but I also know that Sherwin Williams produces a lot of brands throughout the world. I cannot find info on that stupid tip anywhere, I have tried so that it can benefit others and myself, but it is almost impossible to find out where to purchase them.

[DEEN XMEN]

DEEN,

I wasn't talking about Rusto - just Sherwin Williams. Dupli-color (USA) has been using those tips since they came out, and Sherwin Williams is a huge company - I think it may be possible that it is their in house cap and that they have it custom produced or produce it on site. Also, Dutch Boy is made by Sherwin Williams as well. I know other brands use that 360/DanVern cap, but I also know that Sherwin Williams produces a lot of brands throughout the world. I cannot find info on that stupid tip anywhere, I have tried so that it can benefit others and myself, but it is almost impossible to find out where to purchase them.



But if they own it and use it exclusively doubt if it would be offered for sale to others.
I'll see if I can get any info for you from the dudes that visit frequently.

I"ll have to examine one of them damn tips.. I don't have a single can of that paint cuz I hate that tip so much lol ..

[eviltrailer77]

DEEN,

I wasn't talking about Rusto - just Sherwin Williams. Dupli-color (USA) has been using those tips since they came out, and Sherwin Williams is a huge company - I think it may be possible that it is their in house cap and that they have it custom produced or produce it on site. Also, Dutch Boy is made by Sherwin Williams as well. I know other brands use that 360/DanVern cap, but I also know that Sherwin Williams produces a lot of brands throughout the world. I cannot find info on that stupid tip anywhere, I have tried so that it can benefit others and myself, but it is almost impossible to find out where to purchase them.

Big Metal, wouldn't it just be a matter of finding somebody to produce a "DanVern" style actuator, or one that's compatible, with an MBU instead of that fan garbage or perhaps an insert that you could slide in after you pry that fan bullshit out? you could use different sized internal orifices to meter paint flow IE: skinny to fat... just throwing that out there...

Of course all of this is just pointless wondering and "what-iffing" if Sherwin Willams owns the patents and doesnt want to play ball.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

Deen looked into actually, Sherwin does own the patent and the naming rights, and any use of that particular style of tip has to be licensed by SW. Evil I didn't know you knew your stuff like that!

[eviltrailer77]

I worked in "The Industry" for a few years, Aerospace coatings specifically. So I knew a few company names from Vendor fairs (AKA: Please buy our product free shwag fests)... So when Painters Touch and AA started to go hermaphrodite, I saw where it was headed and did serious amounts of research on procuring large quantities of female caps. The stateside companies were all waaaaay too interested in what I was going to use them for or wanted to sell me the valve and actuator together "For convenient under the cap filling". So I started looking overseas. But the overseas companies all wanted me to commit to unrealistic amounts of product. I can do 10,000 to 15,000 not 80,000 to 100,000. So I said fuck it, and gave up. I see you, however, were successful. Just knowing the hours and hours I wasted in the search, I have to give you props for pulling it off.

[ReackOne]

http://img11.imageshack.us/img11/7391/caps24karat1.png

is this the 24K cap that everyone keeps having a boner over?

[RiSE-DvS]

is this the 24K cap that everyone keeps having a boner over?
Yeah, but the one I got has a black dot and it sprays a lot bigger than the one with a pink dot. It also uses a can up in less than 40 seconds of continuous spraying (with lo-pressure paint) which is pretty fast. But, it makes fill-ins REALLY easy and quick to do, so I'd say it's worth it.

If you're going to get some 24k caps though, make sure you get the biggest size possible, otherwise you might as well just use regular pink dots.

[ReackOne]

is it fatter than astro?

[RiSE-DvS]

Here's an excerpt from the Oink 24k fatcap test video on youtube :

"24 Karat Cap - Oink Art Limited is very proud to be the exclusive retailer of the fattest caps around. The 24 Karat fat cap is distinguished from any other cap because of its gold color and unique pink dot. It sprays wider than any other cap, even the Astro Fat or Sabotaz Ultra Fat. Get ready for some ridiculous flares or super fast fills!"

So yeah. It's fatter than an astro.

[ReackOne]

thanks bro

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

It is probably not fatter than an Astro Fat, a lot of times its the same exact cap made in a different color with marketing to make you think its different.

[RiSE-DvS]

I believe that but Oink is a retailer so I trust 'em if they say its fatter than an astro. They sell em for the same price and make the same money from either sale so why would they bother lying?

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

To get you to buy both. I'm not discouraging, just telling you what can happen behind the scenes with those Euro tips.

[JerseyViking]

James isn't a dick, so I doubt he would lie about that sort of thing, but if that information is wrong, it's because that's what was related to him, not because he's knowingly giving out false info.

[RiSE-DvS]

I agree. Cool people don't need to rip people off to make good sales, sales usually find them.

[BIGMETALCIRCUS]

James isn't a dick, so I doubt he would lie about that sort of thing, but if that information is wrong, it's because that's what was related to him, not because he's knowingly giving out false info.


I'm not saying he is a dick or that he's making up information. I got tons of respect for the guy and would never talk BS about him. I'm just saying you're okay buying the Astro fats or the other ones because its not going to be much difference other than cap color. They're both gonna spray super fat!

[RiSE-DvS]

Yeah, true. Not much of a difference if the astros are like 10-12" wide and the 24k are 12-14". You probably wouldn't even notice.

[DEEN XMEN]

thanks bro

That cap is not fatter than Astro.. Matter of fact it is the same as a Astro Cap.

[DEEN XMEN]

Yeah, but the one I got has a black dot and it sprays a lot bigger than the one with a pink dot. It also uses a can up in less than 40 seconds of continuous spraying (with lo-pressure paint) which is pretty fast. But, it makes fill-ins REALLY easy and quick to do, so I'd say it's worth it.

If you're going to get some 24k caps though, make sure you get the biggest size possible, otherwise you might as well just use regular pink dots.

What' low pressure paint did you use that you "wasted" an entire can in 40 seconds. How many letters did you fill in that "40" seconds. I find this incredibly hard to believe.

Not saying this isn't possible.. but it's extremely tough to empty any low pressure can in 40 secs.


Has anyone here as well also emptied a low pressure can in 40 SECONDS?? Let us know!

[DEEN XMEN]

Here is a chart from the good ol' Oink Site:
They are the same thing just different colors.

For you people that don't know .. BIG METAL CIRCUS is an authority on caps. You need advice on caps ask him he knows his stuff very well and so do a few others on here. Get to know them.

http://www.oinkartltd.com/pdfImages/oinkPdfCaps2.jpg

[RiSE-DvS]

Yeah I kinda figured they'd be about the same but anyways I don't really think it matters. Super fat is super fat. Doesn't matter what you put it on.

and the low-pressure paint I was using is Sabotaz. It's not LOW low pressure but it's down there. I filled 5 letters and it was probably like 4'x7' worth of paint. I couldn't even get it filled completely and ran out with about 6x6" left lol... Had to drive to the store and buy another can and go alllll the way back to finish it...

[DEEN XMEN]

Yeah I kinda figured they'd be about the same but anyways I don't really think it matters. Super fat is super fat. Doesn't matter what you put it on.

and the low-pressure paint I was using is Sabotaz. It's not LOW low pressure but it's down there. I filled 5 letters and it was probably like 4'x7' worth of paint. I couldn't even get it filled completely and ran out with about 6x6" left lol... Had to drive to the store and buy another can and go alllll the way back to finish it...

Thanks for the verification.. Sabotaz is good paint. I don't know why it and Ironlak are considered low pressure though.. More like "mild high" than anything else lol.

Them caps do waste a huge amount of paint though . one thing I dislike bout them. If time is a constraint then yeah I'd use them to get it done quick and bounce.

Keep Rocking bro .. stay up!

[ReackOne]

Has anyone here as well also emptied a low pressure can in 40 SECONDS?? Let us know

Haha, yeah bro... Homemade blaster caps... :lol:

[electroretard]

blaster caps r pointless

[ReackOne]

blaster caps r pointless

so was your post :lol:

[electroretard]

hahahaha

[szr]

Blaster caps aren't pointless they just have limited uses

[ReackOne]

not really...

You can get those high spots

[RiSE-DvS]

Yeah, getting out-of-reach places is what they're made for. Not making your mural look extra pretty.

[szr]

And if u want extra drippy tags

[RiSE-DvS]

Or if you're doing bare concrete it's good because it won't be able to suck up all the paint so you don't have to go over it like if you use any other cap...

[szr]

Ya that too

[ReackOne]

if you ever find yourself in a situation of doing a one-man wholecar, then homemade blasters are perfect for you.

[ReackOne]

Well... At least for the fill in

[RiSE-DvS]

Unless you're trying to get detail because the overspray is fucked and it just splatters everywhere in a 1 foot radius around where you aim...

[tha whut]

some people like the look of that

[DEEN XMEN]

Wonders how anyone can do a "whole car" with low pressure paint .. Unless you got at least 5-10 hrs to spend in a yard or you're coming back the next day.

[RiSE-DvS]

yeah... maybe just a simple tag that covers the train, but def not a piece or mural...

-----------------

HOW TO MAKE GHETTO BLASTER CAPS - THE EASIEST AND CLEANEST METHOD

to make a homemade blaster cap, all you need is:
- a knife, thin screwdriver, or any extremely thin object
- any cap (preferably a #2 or fatter)

To make it, just take the knife and pry out the dot of your cap. JUST THE DOT ITSELF, NOTHING ELSE. Do it carefully because underneath, there's a little thing to make the paint spray evenly. Removing this makes it basically spray anywhere it wants to go, so leave that alone. I used a banana skinny (#2) and it works GREAT. Not too much overspray (compared to most other homemade blaster caps) and the best thing is that you can use an old fucked up cap that you can't get unclogged and actually have a use for them.

WEAR GLOVES!!!! It's messy as fuck and you're almost surely going to get it on yourself. Now go enjoy hitting 10 feet up a wall!! :)

[Tuco Salamanca]

how does a tag cover a train?

[szr]

U do it tall and wide

[RiSE-DvS]

Yeah I didn't think it was hard to figure that out lol... Just make it big as fuck.

[ReackOne]

Wonders how anyone can do a "whole car" with low pressure paint .. Unless you got at least 5-10 hrs to spend in a yard or you're coming back the next day.

I never said that I did a whole train with a low pressure can :lol: :lol:

[busyb]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UDndxxP3iH8

www.troutartsupply.com

use it....

[RiSE-DvS]

dude fuck trout art supply... artprimo.com!

[eviltrailer77]

wow...

[JerseyViking]

So good luck using all those boston fats on the new rusto valves. haha back to making capadapts and piggyback caps... And fuck artprimo! OINKART ALL DAYYYYYY. I used to use 33third, but they fucked up an order HARDBODY one time. I spent over 350$ there and was supposed to get 60 cans. They sent me 23. and they were all dented. Some of them had pieces of Styrofoam in the valve and couldn't be used. /rant.

[RiSE-DvS]

Couldn't you just use a can of compressed air to blow the styrofoam out of the valve?

I have yet to hear of a bad review on artprimo so I'd rather go through them. Plus they have a pretty good selection. Bigger than bombing science at least.

[Cro.]

dude fuck trout art supply... artprimo.com!

the fuck?
no.

[DEEN XMEN]

dude fuck trout art supply... artprimo.com!

@RISE: That's the wrong shit to say bro. Keep it cool in here..

Trout Art Supply and Art Primo are both cool spots to buy from.

The people at Trout have helped me and many many others out alot. So chill bro.

I'm just starting to develop a relationship with Art Primo and the people that run it who are good people as well.

No reason to diss anyone! Keep the drama on tv bro.. ergo: Soap Opera

[ReackOne]

Couldn't you just use a can of compressed air to blow the styrofoam out of the valve?

I have yet to hear of a bad review on artprimo so I'd rather go through them. Plus they have a pretty good selection. Bigger than bombing science at least.

oinkart is better :|

[DEEN XMEN]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs393.ash2/67176_170402726331278_100000846554425_328933_45879 35_n.jpg

Post some pics with the caps on your cans used!.. I wanna see who is really using paint in here and not just blowing breeze thru a fan!

[DEEN XMEN]

http://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-snc4/hs923.snc4/73635_157872894250928_100000846554425_272033_59027 65_n.jpg

Artissin using Boston Fats :scrambled:

[RiSE-DvS]

Deen I wasn't being serious when I said fuck trout art... lol chill out man

[DEEN XMEN]

I'm still waiting on pics from you guys that post so much..

Soo many people posting about this n that. They doing so much work, yet not a single one of you can post flicks of your "used cans n caps" ..

Kind of tells me something..

[RiSE-DvS]

Kind of tells me that a lot of people are smart and don't brag about the crimes they commit on the internet with a bunch of people that it shouldn't matter to...

Especially when the person asking hasn't gotten 600 posts in 3 years on the site :o

[Juca]

The people at Trout have helped me and many many others out alot.

agreed.

[hyvy]

Kind of tells me that a lot of people are smart and don't brag about the crimes they commit on the internet with a bunch of people that it shouldn't matter to...

Especially when the person asking hasn't gotten 600 posts in 3 years on the site :o

There's a lot to be said for restraint, "rize".

[Stakk]

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9831/1000337x.jpg

I usually dont take pix of used cans, but heres some I used within the last few days

[DEEN XMEN]

Kind of tells me that a lot of people are smart and don't brag about the crimes they commit on the internet with a bunch of people that it shouldn't matter to...

Especially when the person asking hasn't gotten 600 posts in 3 years on the site :o

Obviously you don't know how to read or understand English or simply paranoid?

I SAID POST A PIC OF YOUR CAN WITH THE USED CAPS. DUOH

Don't see how in the fuck that equates to anything other than a picture!

Homie.. The amount of posts doesn't equate to nothing cept the fact that you post alot and spend alot of time on here in the forums.

[DEEN XMEN]

Kind of tells me that a lot of people are smart and don't brag about the crimes they commit on the internet with a bunch of people that it shouldn't matter to...

Especially when the person asking hasn't gotten 600 posts in 3 years on the site :o


This kind of tells me how much you don't know how to read and understand english more than anything else.

Post a picture of a can with a cap on it .. doesn't imply in any shape or form anything illegal.
I didn't say post some pics of you in action..

See the difference? Understand the difference? Read the difference? Comprehend the difference? Obviously you do not.

[DEEN XMEN]

http://img213.imageshack.us/img213/9831/1000337x.jpg

I usually dont take pix of used cans, but heres some I used within the last few days


Dope flick STAKK ..

Thanks for posting :)

Finally someone one that actually knows what's up.

[DEEN XMEN]

Kind of tells me that a lot of people are smart and don't brag about the crimes they commit on the internet with a bunch of people that it shouldn't matter to...

Especially when the person asking hasn't gotten 600 posts in 3 years on the site :o

I just realized that not only you don't know how to read or understand fucking English..
but did you fucking go to to school? Cuz you don't fucking know Math!

Here is some simply math for you.

10 - 8 = 2

11 - 8 = 3

So tell us where the fuck you got this imaginary 3 years from?

Ha ha.. talk bout a fucking brainiac.

[eviltrailer77]

Kids these days!

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5205/5305650584_f41394b93c.jpg
Mostly scrap cans that I need to get off may ass and mix up.

[DEEN XMEN]

Kids these days!

http://farm6.static.flickr.com/5205/5305650584_f41394b93c.jpg
Mostly scrap cans that I need to get off may ass and mix up.


Thats what i'm talking bout Evil! NICE!

[RiSE-DvS]

Umm January 2011 is 2 days away. Obviously you don't know how to read a calendar.

And you also wasted 3 posts to say the same thing over again with some words switched around.

And also, "SIMPLE math". Not "simply math".

And why the fuck do you think posting pictures of used cans and caps proves that people are going out and actually putting in work? I can sit on my porch and empty out 200 cans into the air and take a pic of them all. Doesn't mean I did any work to empty them. And I don't NEED to prove to you that I do any work. You're not the king of graffiti and I'm not your slave.

Calm down. All this because I made a JOKE and you couldn't take 2 seconds to think about what I said. That's disappointing.

[DEEN XMEN]

Umm January 2011 is 2 days away. Obviously you don't know how to read a calendar.

And you also wasted 3 posts to say the same thing over again with some words switched around.

And also, "SIMPLE math". Not "simply math".

And why the fuck do you think posting pictures of used cans and caps proves that people are going out and actually putting in work? I can sit on my porch and empty out 200 cans into the air and take a pic of them all. Doesn't mean I did any work to empty them. And I don't NEED to prove to you that I do any work. You're not the king of graffiti and I'm not your slave.

Calm down. All this because I made a JOKE and you couldn't take 2 seconds to think about what I said. That's disappointing.

HEY YOU FUCKING TOY.. LEARN SOME FUCKING MATH ALREADY. YOU JUST MADE YOURSELF LOOK EVEN STUPIDER.. START LEARNING TO COUNT CLOWN!

DON'T FUCKING COME ON HERE BEING A FUCKING DOUCHE..

YOUR FUCKING JOKES ARE LAME .. SEEM LIKE YOU'RE ANOTHER ONE OF THESE FUCKING INTERNET TOYS COMING ON A FORUM TRYING TO GET SOME FREE FAME.

NOBODY IN TO NEVER EVEN HEARD OF YOU!

FUCKING NOBODYS ALWAYS TRYING TO BE A SOMEBODY ON THE INTERNET.

SIMPLY MATH = THE PERFECT SOLUTION FOR YOU.. GO FUCKING LEARN HOW TO READ.

YOUR FUCKING 30 SECS OF FAME IS .. YOU'VE BEEN EXPOSED! TOY!

[ReackOne]

http://www.foodpoisonjournal.com/uploads/image/groundbeef.jpg

[DEEN XMEN]

You always know the true toys: they got time to search the internet to post a stupid ass pic lol..

Gotta love these internet toys hiding at home behind the keyboard :D

[ReackOne]

hehehe, I always post this flick, if someone starts arguing.

[DEEN XMEN]

hehehe, I always post this flick, if someone starts arguing.

There is no argument.. it's annoying when toys trying to look good for their few mins of fame.

All I said was post some pics of your "used cans with the used caps" don't see why some idiot had to get all drama queened up bout something like that.

[ReackOne]

All I said was post some pics of your "used cans with the used caps" don't see why some idiot had to get all drama queened up bout something like that.

http://oi56.tinypic.com/o7n2u8.jpg

[DEEN XMEN]

http://oi56.tinypic.com/o7n2u8.jpg

There ya go.. Nice Flick!

It's always interesting to see who is using what type of cans with specific caps.

It's gonna be quite a 2011 now that Rusto in America has basically removed all old school female valve cans and replaced them with the male valve system.

[Tuco Salamanca]

dude fuck trout art supply... artprimo.com!




you're a fucking idiot. die slow

[ReackOne]

It's gonna be quite a 2011 now that Rusto in America has basically removed all old school female valve cans and replaced them with the male valve system.

Yeah, thats kind of a bitch isnt it?

But at the same time, isnt it a blessing? Because it could be easier to get caps (without going to pay for them), when practically 90% of all aerosol product use the male valve system?
So all you have to do, is go to walmart and take caps from almost any aerosol product...

[RiSE-DvS]

LOL

1. I don't go to T.O so obviously I'm not up there. My location says WITHIN 100KM OF TORONTO.

2. For someone whose calling other people illiterate, you made a shitload of errors in that post.

3. Caps lock doesn't scare me.

4. I wasn't doing exact math when I said 3 years. Don't try to play word games, you little baby.

5. Once again, you're playing word games. It wasn't a "joke". It was an over-exaggeration of "I don't like trout art"

6. Who's looking for fame when you're the one who acts like a total dick when someone says the smallest thing about something that's completely unrelated to you? Then you go off on me with caps lock on full blast? Gimme a break.

[RiSE-DvS]

I'm done with this forum. I thought it would a bunch of cool people but it's just a bunch of dicks who think they're the graffiti masters and like to call everyone else toys and act like everyone else is stupid and they know everything. Well, I'm not putting up with your bullshit any longer.

Peace. To Runine and Deen, fuck you.

To everyone else, thanks for helping me and thanks for listening to me. Hope you get treated better than me.

[ReackOne]

Cmon bro

[Tuco Salamanca]

LOL

1. I don't go to T.O so obviously I'm not up there. My location says WITHIN 100KM OF TORONTO.

2. For someone whose calling other people illiterate, you made a shitload of errors in that post.

3. Caps lock doesn't scare me.

4. I wasn't doing exact math when I said 3 years. Don't try to play word games, you little baby.

5. Once again, you're playing word games. It wasn't a "joke". It was an over-exaggeration of "I don't like trout art"

6. Who's looking for fame when you're the one who acts like a total dick when someone says the smallest thing about something that's completely unrelated to you? Then you go off on me with caps lock on full blast? Gimme a break.

Translation: I got bad grades so my mom took my computer away.

[tha whut]

lmfaooo

[Vapid]

Some cans are used. im not going to pick out all the used cans. all the ironlak was phree and i got the sabotaz because oink was making your order 2x so i think that was a steal.

http://i53.tinypic.com/35hmquc.jpg

[Juca]

what kind od valve is on this cleaner? male or female,and someone used this shit for cap cleaning?

http://i54.tinypic.com/2yvt4cn.jpg

[DEEN XMEN]

[QUOTE=Juca;7883732]what kind od valve is on this cleaner? male or female,and someone used this shit for cap cleaning?

Juca: the best way to clean your caps is: Just turn the cans upside down after you finish and just blow them out with propellant. That way paint doesn't dry up in the stem and the chamber inside the head of the cap.