CAPS sooperthread

[haunts]

i realise theres a possiblity of this getting closed but i searched and found nothing like this so maybe if this stayed open it would save countless threads being opened like in the past.

okay. im about to put in a order from a company that carries a fair number of caps. my problem is i dont know much about european caps whatsoever. i dug through threads for 2 hours care of the search option to no avail.
basically im hoping that this thread can be an area where we can talk about caps that we have never heard of. if i had them id take them out and use them to find out what the differences are but i dont have the money to order all of them to experiment with.
so here we go.
of course we all know what ny thins/fats and rusto fats are.
i know what german greys (thins) are but in the past i used the first ones on the market. whats the difference between the first made and the second (skinny bananna)? anything? from what ive found digging around on websites is that they are the same except the second ones work on walmart paint.
transversal-calligraphy based work, any difference between this and fantip? it looks the same to me
orange dot-quiet fill cap, 4-5 fingers in width
blue dot-4-5 fingers, good for fades and less overspray
gold dot-1/2 finger in width, details (characters, highlights)
grey dot-1/2 finger in width, details and fades/shading
black dot-harder stream than german thin, outlines with certain paint
black hood-1 finger in width, outlines details (all black?)
nosle skinny-fine work, hard line (these remind me of mixing caps)
so here are some questions then (width? overspray? etc)..
bananna white dot?
bananna yellow dot?
fat silver cap?
fat pink? (ive used this but it wasnt on the right paint and clogged immediately, i only had 1)
soft?
super soft?
white hood(all white or what)?

[!@#$%]

i think a lot of those euro caps are pretty much the same, they just make them different colors to sell more.

i could be wrong, i've only tried a handful of different ones, including gold dot, pink dot and all the skinnies..
caps really aren't my thing though, stocks or a good piecing cap and a rusto fat is all you really need.

[haunts]

yeah i definately agree. its just that i was going to get some montana and i was under the impression rustos and ny's dont work with euro paint.

ive decided that im just going to stick with the german thins as far as the montana is concerned because i know how to use them and i dont really have to worry about overspray. but im still really curious about this rainbow variety of caps these days. it got me wondering if people will stop in the middle of the piece and throw on a new cap for shading or fading instead of the one they have, i dont know the thought seemed silly to me.
i was definately overwhelmed when i saw the options and it started to make sense as to why ive seen the yard littered with cap posts in the past until it was cleaned up.

[master bait]

one "euro" cap I recently found and think some people might like was called "level 5". it's extremely fat and high pressure... I think you can see it happen here:

http://www.90bpm.net/temp/boardpix/sunset.mov

[sMaLLzOnE]

You can cop those at scrapyard if you live in nyc, level 5's they're a gold cap with a black dot. They only work like that on montanas though

[sneak]

the standard cap i use for bombing, throws, pieces etc is a grey banana with the black dot. fuck knows what its called all these technical terms are bollocks. fat, medium, skinny and super skinny is all thats needed.

the cap im on about is pretty much a medium sized spray. i use it for fills, outlines, tags. its usually the most consistent cap.

does anyone know what i mean when i talk about a dark gey cap (not banana style) with a black dot. i think its montana made? its proper shite, you never know whether youve picked up a skinny or a super fat and they clogg within minutes..

[!@#$%]

rusto stocks
american accents stocks
painters touch stocks
rusto fats
ny piecing caps [from before 1995?]

all work on montana, except montana alien, which have a special cap just for them.

the ny piecing caps i have are old as hell, and from what i hear from other writers, the ones that people get today are not like that (and frequently clog on rusto and euro paint)..the ones i have i had gotten from flashbacks in 1994 or so and they work great.
these might be the caps people sometimes call 'softballs'
they are a lot like the caps people used to steal off krylon krystal klear

[haunts]

maybe. i have no idea. i feel uncomfortable questioning what your saying cause youve been in this some years more than me obviously but ive always been under the impression that soft' and the soft varietys were shaped like german fat caps but the pressure is much softer and thats where they get their name. like a german grey compared to a ny fat as far as pressure goes for example.
its just that i dont know that as fact and i could be way off so thats why i question myself as well in this situation. i dont know what the differences are between the soft caps though, i assume the width of the spray. like ive seen some caps advertised that hit 5 inches wide. thats insane to me, and unless i was rocking a whole car i dont think id be able to use them in a way that would take advantage of them although i could see how that would be extremely handy for street work as far as fills go. as well i wouldnt want to use them unless they can rock work in one coat because it would feel like a waste of paint doing 2 or 3 coats with a cap that lethal.

[LaCosaNostra]

about those montana alien cans, i have 2 cans and one cap alreadly clogged...anybody know any other caps i can use on there? thins prefferably..

[timebomb]

i have a shitload of these caps...what are they?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/volcomikey/capss.bmp

[!@#$%]

people called those things softballs at least as early as 1993, as in, way before expensive euro paint and fancy ass caps.

but yeah, i assume it has to do either with the pressure (soft) or the maximum width of the spray (softball size) ..may also be a regional lingo thing (like the gazillion different names for double outline/forcefield/shell/skin/etc./etc..)

either way, the piecing caps i use are old
and are definitely NOT what you get today when buying 'ny thins' or 'ny piecing caps'
sp i don't know how those caps perform on euro paint, i hear not very well.

however, caps that fit rusto/amaccents/painterstouch will fit spanish montana, and rusto fats and stocks work well and don't have serius cloggin issues.

that being said, i can't say what those caps do on german montana, or belton.

a couple years ago i abandoned special caps and started using stocks a lot.
although i enjoy those huge fats from europe,
it helps to get used to using a crappy cap and fuck all the special tools, imo



**MONTANA ALIEN. notorious cap clogger. i can't seem to get thorugh a can without using at least 5 caps. and nothing else that i know of works on there. fuckin a, when you order it request extra caps!?

[bigpoppa.k]

I remember those "softballs" being called phantoms where i'm from. those caps were the fuckin shit and i'd give my left arm for some of those right now. i used to clean out all the art stores back in the day.

as for this discussion...

one thing to mention straight away is...
caps made for the Spanish Montana will not work on the German Montana, but will work on most other paints.
The Germans are the ones who are fucking with everyone with this new cap line bullshit. The caps made for the German Montana will only work with their line of paint.

for the Alien... normal, oldschool regular belton caps work on Aliens nicely.

[Frate_Raper]

I wish I could get more of the old ny thins,when they were actualy thin!

I got a bag of them from an old friend from montreal and using them was SWEEEET.

[seeking]

it's always amused me that people who get real into caps, 9 times out of 10, can't paint a decent piece to save their life regardless of what you put in their hand. meanwhile the cats who do the sickest stuff usually use nothing by ny's and rustos....maybe a regular german thin.

just my observation.

if i need a line that's 1/2 a finger wide, i use a ny thin, hold the can close to the wall and go fast. if it's still not thin enough, i cut it. if i want a line 4 inches wide, i use a ny fat on rusto/pt/aa. if i need a very solid line 4 inches wide, i use a rusto and make two passes. if i need a line 9 inches wide, i use a roller. as someone once said 'video killed the radio star'. kids now a days are bound by technology. take away their caps and they're screwed. they don't even know about shaving stems. you want a pencil thin line, make an 'LA' cap. what's an 'LA' cap? nevermind...

softballs were called that because they would spray a perfect softball sized dot. phantoms, from my understanding, were similar to fixative caps. as symbols pointed out, it's all pretty regional.

[Von schnabel]

Stockcaps=caps that comes with the can?

if so.

I never ever heard anyone ever talk about using stockcaps in europe. Long before you could buy caps at stores and even before you could buy caps from a friends friends friend who knew someone, people didnt use stockcaps, they racked better caps from other cans. Because face it stockcaps are usually only good for one thing and that is they dont clog.

[!@#$%]

yes, stocks are the cap that comes with the can.
stocks are good when you run out or forget your other fancy caps.
plus it saves money.
if you suck at can control, it will show when you use stocks, yes.

but people have been racking caps off other cans of paint since the beginning, even in the states, which is WHY i mentioned that people USED to rack caps off krylon krystal klear.
and WD-40 caps got used for mixing paint.

this is not some european phenomenon.
i would assume that shit happened in europe anyway, since some brands of paint don't even come with caps!

but, i have learned that VERSATILITY is one of the most important things in graf
and that being tied to a cap is like only being able to draw with a number4 pencil.

don't rope yourself in by learning technique only with special caps, would be my advice.

[uproar]

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[Mr. Chad]

Originally posted by master bait@Mar 15 2005, 11:03 AM
one "euro" cap I recently found and think some people might like was called "level 5". it's extremely fat and high pressure... I think you can see it happen here:

http://www.90bpm.net/temp/boardpix/sunset.mov
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holy fuck that shit is insane

[iloveyoursister]

Originally posted by haunts@Mar 15 2005, 11:40 PM
fat pink? (ive used this but it wasnt on the right paint and clogged immediately, i only had 1)
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Very weird that a pink dot clogged right away, because pink dots are caps that are least likely to clog.

[iloveyoursister]

Originally posted by timebomb@Mar 16 2005, 11:13 AM
i have a shitload of these caps...what are they?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/volcomikey/capss.bmp
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The grey one is the stock cap that comes with german montana

and I think the black one is the stock cap that comes with belton.

[haunts]

Originally posted by iloveyoursister+Mar 16 2005, 07:25 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iloveyoursister - Mar 16 2005, 07:25 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-haunts@Mar 15 2005, 11:40 PM
fat pink? (ive used this but it wasnt on the right paint and clogged immediately, i only had 1)
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Very weird that a pink dot clogged right away, because pink dots are caps that are least likely to clog.
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maybe it was orange then i dont know. i just remember pink for some reason, it could have been gold for all i know.

so this may sound stupid but does anybody know around what year companies started manufacturing specialized spraypaint caps for writing. also why are rusto caps called rusto? they can be used on other cans. and was there ever a rusto skinny? ive wondering these questions since i started painting, maybe ill finally get some answers.

splint2 posted this in the spray paint thread and i thought id repost in here since its on the topic.

-Krylon
german outlines
ny thins
ny fats
german bluedots
german blackdots
german greydots
german orangedot fats
german jumbos

-Rusto
german outlines (some cans, others they screw up)
ny thins
rusto fats

-Montana
german outlines
german bluedots
german blackdots
german orangedot fats
german jumbos

[haunts]

Originally posted by haunts+Mar 16 2005, 09:40 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (haunts - Mar 16 2005, 09:40 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by iloveyoursister@Mar 16 2005, 07:25 PM
<!--QuoteBegin-haunts@Mar 15 2005, 11:40 PM
fat pink? (ive used this but it wasnt on the right paint and clogged immediately, i only had 1)
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Very weird that a pink dot clogged right away, because pink dots are caps that are least likely to clog.
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maybe it was orange then i dont know. i just remember pink for some reason, it could have been gold for all i know.

so this may sound stupid but does anybody know around what year companies started manufacturing specialized spraypaint caps for writing. also why are rusto caps called rusto? they can be used on other cans. and was there ever a rusto skinny? ive been wondering these questions since i started painting, maybe ill finally get some answers.

splint2 posted this in the spray paint thread and i thought id repost in here since its on the topic.

-Krylon
german outlines
ny thins
ny fats
german bluedots
german blackdots
german greydots
german orangedot fats
german jumbos

-Rusto
german outlines (some cans, others they screw up)
ny thins
rusto fats

-Montana
german outlines
german bluedots
german blackdots
german orangedot fats
german jumbos
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[ASER1NE]

Ive tried a number of these caps , Gold dots pink dots grey dots , all greys blah blah blah . Yes some of them work well , but after spending money buying them i end up always going back to Regular old german outlines and /or NY thins. theyre by far the 2 most versatile caps i know of .

My .02

[caffeine]

I once tried using those weird nozzle caps. The paint came out in a damn splat. Is that the purpose of the cap? I have to admit, when i first seen it i thought it would create a really thin line. Guess not.
I say if youre just starting out, and havent been cap standardized already, just use the stuff that comes with your can, the stock tip. One, theres no extra cost for you to go out and buy caps. Two, if you can piece with just one tip, you can gain better can control. Of course, one could say the stock tips on Euro paint isnt exactly what we think of as "stock", but i think you got my drift. Specialty caps can be helpful i suppose, but its still possible to get really thin lines in your piece solely using a fat cap...Nothing wrong with challenging your skills. ;)

[caffeine]

Also, while thinking about caps, i realized the one problem with spray paint is the inevitable problem of overspray. Of course, many here will claim they dont have the problem, but i have yet to see that perfectly clean piece. As a side note, to all the beginners out here, not only should you be checking out pieces from afar, but also up close. Im still amazed by some peoples can control, especially when their fill got little effects that can only be seen from upclose. :king:

[incognita]

stocks
rusto fats
:miamivice:

[seeking]

Originally posted by caffeine@Mar 17 2005, 02:36 AM
i have yet to see that perfectly clean piece. Quoted post



then you're not looking at the right pieces.


seriously, when i hear people talk about all these caps, i just want to slap them out of their hands and say 'just learn how to paint, pussy'.

however, i will also never advocate just using stocks. that whole period in graff (2000-2001) when everyone was painting shitty sloppy graffiti was a black eye on our history. you can get 100 ny thins for 7 bucks. that's two beers at the bar. there is no excuse.

[!@#$%]

stocks will make your piece look unclean yes.
but it's good to at least be able to use them.
and they are good to fill in with if you don't have any fats.

ok pussies.
i'm done with this thread.

[Fabo 2]

pretty much the only caps I ever use are pinkdot fatcaps and blackdot skinnies. fuck knows what other caps do.

[ASER1NE]

I find NY thins work with the widest variety of paints and are good for pretty much everything.

[caffeine]

Yeah i guess what i was trying to say was that beginners shouldnt worry so much about what caps to use for what, and just focus on gaining skill with the can- and with their sketches of course. Thats why i advised just using the free stock caps. Although I get what youre saying about using thins, especially when doing quality pieces.

[Zack Morris]

if it helps someone out I will break down what I use different caps for.

german thins - outlines specifically with krylon. That is the only kind pf paint I use with these caps.

rusto fats - they work on pretty much everything...I use them for bombing, tags and large parts of fill ins or in the rare case that I do line work with rusto paint due to the fact that they do not get the infamous rusto stutter.

krylon stock caps - fades pretty much with gloss colors for shading and effect on charaters and letters.

these are the only three caps I really use other than the occaisionally ny fat or german fat for bombing which is ararity for me anymore.

as far as I am concerned if you are doing peices these are the only caps you really need. If you don't like my advice then don't fallow it, its just what works best for me and my style of painting.

*edit:

if you are new to writing and you are wanting to develop can control pretty much what I did was paint with nothing but rusto fats for everything so that if I fucked up in the slightest my lines would drip. It pretty much taught me can control through trial and error and now it that I have moved on to more technical stuff other than just simple color fills and outlines its helped alot with can control.

[GnomeToys]

I use some caps that are sold as "German Outlines 2" for a lot of things, just because they've worked on every brand of paint I tried them on and I don't have to fuck around with it.

[tré]

nah son, that aint a cap on a spray can, sunset uses those plant fertilizer spray things, and puts paint in em.

Originally posted by master bait@Mar 15 2005, 11:03 AM
one "euro" cap I recently found and think some people might like was called "level 5". it's extremely fat and high pressure... I think you can see it happen here:

http://www.90bpm.net/temp/boardpix/sunset.mov
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[Overtime]

Originally posted by iloveyoursister+Mar 16 2005, 07:31 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (iloveyoursister - Mar 16 2005, 07:31 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-timebomb@Mar 16 2005, 11:13 AM
i have a shitload of these caps...what are they?


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v458/volcomikey/capss.bmp
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The grey one is the stock cap that comes with german montana

and I think the black one is the stock cap that comes with belton.
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depends on where you order form actually

the grey is a german outline 1.

the black is a thin cap

[villain]

There seriously needs to be some kind of chart that shows every kind of cap and what paints they work with.
These euro caps are kinda finnicky. But I guess that's what you get with specialty caps. Very specific stuff. Knowing caps is becoming some kind of science.
NY and Rusto and German outlines seem to be the most versatile caps.

[Yellow Feets]

Man I hate those German caps. Then again I'm using them on Krylon... Whatever. I'll just stick to Ny thins and Orange dots/fats. Stock caps too.

[sMaLLzOnE]

Originally posted by tré+Mar 18 2005, 06:45 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tré - Mar 18 2005, 06:45 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>nah son, that aint a cap on a spray can, sunset uses those plant fertilizer spray things, and puts paint in em.

<!--QuoteBegin-master bait@Mar 15 2005, 11:03 AM
one "euro" cap I recently found and think some people might like was called "level 5". it's extremely fat and high pressure... I think you can see it happen here:

http://www.90bpm.net/temp/boardpix/sunset.mov
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you're joking right? I know it comes out that big if you know how to use it..I've done it

[alphredrock]

Originally posted by sMaLLzOnE+Mar 19 2005, 10:48 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (sMaLLzOnE - Mar 19 2005, 10:48 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>Originally posted by tré@Mar 18 2005, 06:45 PM
nah son, that aint a cap on a spray can, sunset uses those plant fertilizer spray things, and puts paint in em.

<!--QuoteBegin-master bait@Mar 15 2005, 11:03 AM
one "euro" cap I recently found and think some people might like was called "level 5". it's extremely fat and high pressure... I think you can see it happen here:

http://www.90bpm.net/temp/boardpix/sunset.mov
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you're joking right? I know it comes out that big if you know how to use it..I've done it
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he's definitely not joking. if you actually look at the movie, you can see that sunset is holding a tank in his left hand connected to a tube thats connected to the thing that sunset is spraying with..

[nyam]

i hope i helped a little..

all the levels in a cap yall talkin about is actually meant for Montana Gold. Level 1-5. You can have both low pressure and high pressure in a can. The gold cap wit the black dot is the fattest cap ya can find, at least for now. The grey 'stock' tip that comes with montana(spanish or both i think) is the best for me. i mean, ya only need that to colour, fade, outline, everythin. but of coz if ya wana work faster, get the pink dot. white cap wit a pink dot. shit is pretty fat.. wors on all montana i guess.. and like wat they said, theres always the good old ny rustos caps... :)

[BurgerKing]

for bombing all I use is pink dots (id use level 5 montana if i had them) and stock caps for outlines.

toyish? yes.

[HAL]

The only thing i can add is that there's two kinds of german thins these days. Back before euro paint hit the states, we had the plain old grey or white german thins, the ones like this.....
http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/newcap/gray.blackdot.jpg http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/newcap/yellowdot.jpg http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/greycap_t.jpg
Good caps, tried and true. I prefer NY Thins because of availability, but they're nice to have at night for trains or whatever, because you can easily tell them apart from rusto fats just by size. Trying to find a NY thin amongst a handful of NY and rusto fats is pretty damn hard at night. The other colors are exactly the same.

Then these started to be marketed as German Thins....
http://www.bombingscience.com/shop/image/german-outline2.jpg
Good caps, but if you put them on anything besides european paint, they will spray like a fat. Especially with Krylon. They also don't fit the valve system that rusto uses, and leak the same as german fats and NY fats.

http://www.bombingscience.com/shop/image/pink-dots.jpghttp://www.bombingscience.com/shop/image/germanfat.jpg
More or less, I think pink and orange dot german fats are bullshit. I've seen them called silent fats, euro fat caps, hooded fats, etc. Unless you're using them with euro paint, they spray messy, fuzzy and sloppy. If you do tags or fills with euro paint, you're richer than I am. A NY fat sprays just about as wide and a hell of a lot cleaner. Unless you make a habit of doing clean train wholecars, I don't think these are necessary.

http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/newcap/silverfat.jpg
I've never seen one of these, so i can't comment. I'd bet it's basically another version of the german fat/pink dot thing.

http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/newcap/black.jpg http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/goldcap_t.jpg http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/blackdot_t.jpg http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/newcap/bluedot.jpg
These all spray basically the same. Pretty skinny, a little smaller than a NY thin or German Thin. Gold dots are ok, but if you're going to spend some money, you may as well get grey dots.

http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/bluedot_t.jpg
These are kind of medium. A little thicker than a NY thin, but not enough to go out and buy a handful. They used to make a version of these where the blue center was slightly recessed, and it had a little lip around the center, and they sprayed so slow and smooth. Great for blends.

Hooded caps are any caps that cover the entire valve area of the spray can. All the caps pictured here are hooded caps. Rusto fats, NY thins and NY fats are not hooded.

There's a whole slew of hooded caps that look the same as the pink and orange dot fats, except they have a yellow, blue, green, aqua, etc center. They all spray basically the same. Sometimes they're called soft caps. To translate, "soft cap" is a term shops use to get you to buy stock caps. They spray a bit bigger and heavier than your average red stock, but why on earth would you spend money on a cap that already comes with your can? Some of the blue, yellow, brown, etc caps actually spray a nice clean line, but I don't think they're all that useful.

http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/greydot_t.jpg
The only cap that's come along in recent times that I think is great and beneficial is the grey dot. I've seen ones that are one solid piece, they're ok, but the really good ones have a clear plastic stem that you can remove. The stem doesn't have a slit in it like most caps, but rather a small hole. The benefit to this is that much less paint comes through the cap, actually allowing for really skinny lines. They also spray very lightly and have a bit of fuzziness, so they're great for tight shading and misting. The only problem is that grey dots clog really fast, especially if you switch between Krylon and Belton. Usually the problem is the little hole in the stem getting clogged, and you can clean it out with a safety pin or needle. I used to pick up piles of those caps at the fame walls around here, pull out the stem, soak them in xylol over night and have a whole pile of brand new grey dots to use. Kids would use 3-4 grey dots to outline one piece.

[master bait]

Ok. here's my thoughts about those caps. Might clear something, or confuse some more but anyway...a spanish montana viewpoint.

http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/newcap/gray.blackdot.jpg http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/newcap/yellowdot.jpg http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/greycap_t.jpg

aside from the grey dot (that I've never seen before) very nice thin and smooth cap. heard them being called bananas and german skins. they dont fit to the alien or pocket cans by the same manufacturer. pretty good for anything except large fills if you don't have hours to spend on it.


http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/newcap/black.jpg
I heard these were called "pro-skin"
these are ok, smooth but not as skinny and hard line as the bananas above. they give you round, soft line, but not as soft as soft caps...

that are seen here.
http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/newcap/bluedot.jpg
soft, fat and low pressure cap. one of my favorites... if someone tries to sell you something else as soft caps, don't buy... never seen any other color scheme on soft caps but this: grey, blue dot - just like pictured above. don't know about krylon stock caps or whatever but softs are SMOOTH and really useful. oddly enough, this is pretty much what old growth said about the "medium" cap. I still wouldn't wonder if shops and manufacturers would like to sell all kinds of fancy caps and cap cleaning solvents and whatever to get that dime.

http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/newcap/silverfat.jpg
I don't know what this is called but it's basically a pink dot. fat and high pressure... nothing special.

gold skinny.this is the other part where I disagree with old growth.
http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/goldcap_t.jpg
the pic wont show the stem, but the dot tells me it's the same ones I've got: you can barely see the hole in the dot. the stem is exactly what old growth describes about the grey dot (never seen one myself). super skinny, removable transparent plastic stem without a slit. And they clog easily. With spanish montana you can use the cap for one line and the second time it'll probably get clogged. guess they're better for less thick and opaque paint.

that's all I can say about these caps at the moment

[seeking]

ugh. just learn how to fucking paint.
christ.

[nuk]

that silver one with the black dod is a super fat they are the fattest on the market...

and blue dots arent really that skinny dontya fink

[haunts]

its funny, since starting this thread i tried a couple eurocaps once or twice but havent been painting with anything but rustofats since. oh well, you cant teach an old dog new tricks i suppose.

[stilltippin]

thank you all

[WeksVMF]

I'm sure this has been said, sure caps are useful, but learn stocks first, spend at least a year with them, I guarntee after a year of useing stocks and you start useing caps, everything will be alot easier.

[iloveyoursister]

^ yes that is true.

[ONEder]

i'm also gonna agree with the last two posts. but i think toys should pick up a few caps to expiriment with. my girl who's just starting out is a hell of alot better with rustofats then stocks, but to each there own

[WeksVMF]

Originally posted by ONEder@Apr 3 2005, 08:36 PM
i'm also gonna agree with the last two posts. but i think toys should pick up a few caps to expiriment with. my girl who's just starting out is a hell of alot better with rustofats then stocks, but to each there own
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Yeah it's good to mess around with different caps, but like, the first time you go out don't just use a german outline and not make an attempt to learn stocks first. I remember I bombed with stocks for about a year, meanwhile I was developing my style, and the first peice I did came out real nice. Wish I had a flick. Oh and also, the first time you go out for those who may not have painted yet, don't blow all your money on montana, and do some whack shit and have wasted your money, start with rustoleum or krylon, personaly it only makes sense to use montana for peiceing, their like 8 bucks a can here.

[ABSTRKT]

that sunset handstyle is preety ill....
im gonna try to get my hand on some of those lvl 5 tips.... and hope thats the right tip.

[prizone]

Originally posted by master bait@Mar 15 2005, 12:03 PM
one "euro" cap I recently found and think some people might like was called "level 5". it's extremely fat and high pressure... I think you can see it happen here:

http://www.90bpm.net/temp/boardpix/sunset.mov
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thats is the craziest shit ever, you'de definately bee seen using it though :yuck:

[ABSTRKT]

those lvl 5 seem to be the right ones... got me some of them.... wooooo... boy they are sick.... cant wait to go bombing.... gonna be so sick. handstyles all over.

[ABSTRKT]

liquidcrack.net has them cheap... 5$ for 25 + 2.50 to ship....

[SWX1994]

Originally posted by seeking@Mar 23 2005, 05:13 PM
ugh. just learn how to fucking paint.
christ.
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[phameousONE]

ny fat and thin all the way.

[TeStIcAlS]

i like the ny fats........

[ABSTRKT]

for piecing... ny fats/thins... and german outlines.
for bombing... the fater the better...

[flux]

all these caps kinda got me confused, especially because i think im using euro paints due to me not living in the states.

whats some good threads to read about painting pieces, my skills are basic when it comes to designing pieces, however after looking at my local talent i can say its proberly running average.

i can design on paper, and ocme up with some nice pieces, however when i try and recreate it on a wall and it is a mess, with runs and messy sprays .. basically the only way i cna get a 'ok' line is basically run the can along the wall liek a marker.

mind you in using the stock standard caps that come with a can, dunno what you guys call them.

what do you think i should use to start off with, i guess i would be after an 'outline cap'

but how do i choose which outline cap is best for me?

[stoopit]

ORANGE DOTS (rusto fats)
N.Y. THINS
i swearz by um

[flux]

whats a ny thin look liek and what are the called outside of the us

[master bait]

NY caps should be called NY caps everywhere in the world. they're the small ones that have the "pipe" visible.
In other words, they are not "HOODED".

HOODED caps are like every cap pictured on this page.
here is a hooded cap. you can't see the pipe from this angle.
http://www.bombingscience.com/shop/image/pink-dots.jpg
this one is called PINK FAT because it sprays fat and the "dot" is pink.

So... NY thin is a NOT-HOODED cap that sprays thin lines.

Anyway your problem isn't the caps. I think it's because you have poor quality paint or you hold the can too far away from the wall. you also have to practice, practice, practice... good luck.

[PushbuttonWarfare]

I tried reading through most of this thread, but I'm not really sure anymore at this point what the exact point of it was. My take on caps is this: The best thing you can do for yourself when you're starting out(if you're in north america) is to find a couple ny thins and rusto fats in a craft store. Paint with those caps for awhile, and when I say those caps, I mean those specific caps, don't reup on them. Try to keep them clean after each use, and if they start to clog, dont toss em, see what tricks you can do with a slightly clogged cap, and then find ways to clean them back to normal again. This will help you out more in the long run than anything else, in terms of figuring out finger pressure, line widths and the distance you hold the can from the wall, cutting, etc. etc. Knowing just the basics of how to handle paint with these caps will make it quite easier when you want to experiment. Then as you go on try out some other caps a couple at a time and find your own personal likes and rhythms from there. If you got every kind of cap at once, or if you just followed the advice of people on a message board about strange caps, you're never going to find your own personal likes and dislikes for how you paint.

I personally own a shitload of different caps, mostly for the novelty than anything else, but I pretty much stick to a standard pattern of what I've found I like. Besides, which is the more satisfying feeling- following something off a message board or getting the "Oh, word?" when someone sees you're doing something unique that you figured out?



oh, ps, if i lived outside north america I'd probably just continuously paint with montana and the fattest fat cap i could find. Cause that shit is fun, sayyesyessayword.

[master bait]

^^^yeah, people do that alot in europe... however it's not necessary to use pink fats if you're not impatient or in a hurry... it's a little waste of paint to use pink fats in a chill spot, i've noticed....

[sad ugly]

i just stick with german outlines 2 (grey cap, black dot) and german fats (white cap, orange dot). the german outlines 2 lay down great lines. nice and thin and real consistant. i've heard the german outlines 2 called a bunch of different things, thats what bombing science calls them and thats the name me and my crew have always used. those caps have always been good to me. they act up with rusto sometimes but i mainly use krylon. krylon is the cheapest and easiest to come by around here. they also clog pretty quick.
whatch out for that rusto though. i went to throw up a nice big bomb the other day and used a german fat on my can of rusto and as soon as i started painting blue paint shot out from under the cap and was pouring down the can, all over my hand and made a mess of the ground.

[Overtime]

Originally posted by symbols@Mar 17 2005, 03:41 PM
stocks will make your piece look unclean yes.
but it's good to at least be able to use them.
and they are good to fill in with if you don't have any fats.

ok pussies.
i'm done with this thread.
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thats it right there. not to use stocks all the time, whats the point when there is ny thins and outline2's and such. Being a well rounded writer and having the ability to use everything you come across is never a bad thing.

Im an ny thin kind a guy, and blackdots sometimes. outlines (which spray about the same line as an ny thin) too. But that dont mean i have never used stocks, or will never use them again.

[suffer52]

what cap do you do a blaster with?

[SWX1994]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v156/cutie1/CAPS.jpg

the only caps you'll ever need....these are doughnuts for a baseball bat.

[rattleytins]

ye the lite grey cap with a baby blue dot is a nice allround size, n dusnt get clogged up 2 east with montana hardcore, dont know really about other paints, still using a reliable fat like that and the cap you get on tins which is usually fairly skinny is good ofr me, for a bit of difference obviously hold the tin closer or further from the wall.

[NeCrOpHeLiAc]

The Silver With The Black Insert!..

[Overtime]

http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/newcap/yellowdot.jpg

all i use,,,,

[acidRain_]

what is a good cap that sprays soft and skinny on krylon or rusto???blue dot maybe? or can you just let some of the air pressure out of the can...

their is a cap , it looks like a german fatcap thats not hooded on airplane cleaner shit at wal mart by the automotive paint section.... its a new york fat cap that sprays a little harder... good cap to use for quick stuff.

[bears_with_knives]

I use stock caps only because I can't find the time or money to buy other ones. I've experimented with the stock caps a lot on my free time. If you get really close to the wall, you'll get a pretty decent clean line, you'll have to move your hand pretty fast to or it'll drip. The Krylons made a nice thin line while the rusto's make wider lines and they shoot a lot more paint(from what it looked like). Basically you need to experiment with them.

[Top Of The Pop]

only rusto fatcap please :king: :king:

["DizE"one<-]

Originally posted by Von schnabel@Mar 16 2005, 01:39 PM
Stockcaps=caps that comes with the can?

if so.

I never ever heard anyone ever talk about using stockcaps in europe. Long before you could buy caps at stores and even before you could buy caps from a friends friends friend who knew someone, people didnt use stockcaps, they racked better caps from other cans. Because face it stockcaps are usually only good for one thing and that is they dont clog.
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I USED TO USE STOCK CAPS BCUZ I HAD A WAY OF CUTTING THEM TO BE SKINNIES BUT I FORGOT HOW I CUT THEM

["DizE"one<-]

Originally posted by tré+Mar 18 2005, 05:45 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (tré - Mar 18 2005, 05:45 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'>nah son, that aint a cap on a spray can, sunset uses those plant fertilizer spray things, and puts paint in em.

<!--QuoteBegin-master bait@Mar 15 2005, 11:03 AM
one "euro" cap I recently found and think some people might like was called "level 5". it's extremely fat and high pressure... I think you can see it happen here:

http://www.90bpm.net/temp/boardpix/sunset.mov
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[/b][/quote]
IF IT IS A LAWN FERTALIZER,THAT IS A GOOD FUCKIN IDEA CUZ THAT SHIT WUZ SICK AS HELL

[Yellow Feets]

Originally posted by seeking@Mar 23 2005, 12:13 PM
ugh. just learn how to fucking paint.
christ.
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^I'm with this guy. But I'm going to have to say that gold dots are shit. It keeps on spraying after you left go. Which is fucking awkward to me. I like the ... german... orange dot thing for fills. God damn. But yeah, ny fats, ny thins, stock caps, and orange dots.


I'm thinking of getting a pink dot for bombing. Ny fats and orange fots aren't quite cutting it for me.

[bears_with_knives]

thanks for the info old growth...

[AverotS85]

i use caps when i paint.

[worldoflies]

i'm still not clear on the difference between the two kinds of ny thins. i remember i used to get them off testors paint that i racked from the hobby store. then from soho down & under, then flashbacks. then i started using german thins in the mid 90's and stopped using ny thins, then i get some more new york thins recently from 4 the hardway and i never noticed a difference. but i may not have been paying a lot of attention, especially in the early 90's when i was a toy and didn't know anything.

is one kind of NY thin is skinnier? did one originally come from testors and one from liquitex spray adhesive or did both these products have the same caps or what? was the old liqutex cap even a real ny thin is was it one of those stock tips that has a semi flare effect?

[toggle]

Originally posted by master bait@Mar 15 2005, 11:03 AM
http://www.90bpm.net/temp/boardpix/sunset.mov
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that cap spits fresh...

[craigtx]

i use ny thins/fats, and gold/beige dots. they work the best for me.

[PINK DOT]

pink dots and a ny thin clean coverage and quick timing. just my 2 cents

[iloveyoursister]

I think the only caps you really need are black dots and pink dots.

[215 hero]

the only caps i think u realy need to go bombing are NEW YORK FATS
:king:

[jeno]

IUN THAT VIDEO THE GUY IS USING A FUCKI PESTICIDE SPRYAER THAT YOU PRESSURE PUMP BY HAND. PAY ATTENTION AND YOU CANSEE A WAND IN HIS HAND....

[chumbawumba]

Originally posted by sMaLLzOnE@Mar 15 2005, 04:10 PM
You can cop those at scrapyard if you live in nyc, level 5's they're a gold cap with a black dot. They only work like that on montanas though
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They work on Krylon, but they drip. In this day and age who doesn't wear gloves when they paint, though? Personally I never used one - but I hear they are "no joke" 10 fingers.

[xmyrtlex]

see man fuck all these gay ass caps see my friend over in spain said they only have 2 kinds of caps german thins and german fats thats all you need and they made all these rambow fag colored caps that are just not needed....all i need is a fat cap and skinny cap

[MOOGLE?]

i had a feild day modifying a bunch of montana caps a little while ago...

i wonder if there are diagrams of all these caps online somplace..

other than that i stick with modified stocks or just plain stocks..and ny thins&fats..oh and caligrafy tips..the black part slapped in a ny thin is beutiful..nice ghosting/fade effects...
i only read the first page so uh

[shai]

pinks to fill, stocks to outline-works everytime. thins are a waste of time and i never had any luck with banana caps. softball caps and misting caps (grey/blue) are interesting but i never use them...i'm not that kind of guy.

[assflea]

okey i read like 3/4 of the first page and not much was said that was true so heres my 2cents
i have used lots of differant types of tips and feel i have a good understanding of each one. these are the tips that i still use on the reg here we go:

ny skinny - nice soft thin tip that can flair if you know what you are doing. also good for fills that you can take your time on. saves paint doing this. fits krylon and spanish montana well. fits rustos but with alot of over spray causing a crappy line. will fit belton, wallmart and german montana after you shave the stem flush. you can get these for free if you are smart and know where to look.

ny fat (soft balls)- my favorite tip. works on all of the above brands. good for fills, flairs, larger outlines, and fades. these can also be found if you know where to look.

german outlines (bananas)- montana spains stock tips. i use these when im painting in the winter because they are good to cold fingers. basicly the same as the ny skin (fit the same cans) but dont flair as well. outline 2s are avail for wallmarts, beltons and german montanas. the twos give a harder thinner line then the originals i noticed.

hooded german tips (colors)

hooded grey dots - these tips are the shit. i love doing outlines with these tip while beltons or mtana golds (german). they clog easy with the black or platnum montana cans (german) so shake them babies well and carry extras. when i have to outline with montana black (german) i use hooded black dots. they have the same line thickness as the grey but are higher presure so they dont clog as easy.
hooded greys also fit krylon cans and some rustos. blk dots dont usualy.

hooded blue dots - these are soft fat caps and are good for fades and shit. these tips came to the resq when i had to use rusto to outline and the can was being lame to all my thin tips. I DONT BUY THESE TO MUCH NOW THAT I CAN FADE WITH ANY THING. AN i oops didnt meen to shout.

special gold dots dont confuse with gold super skinnys-
these are my go to for huge fades soft and fat as hell. the got the big hole but a vey skinny valve so you get a low amout of paint in the mix but a huge ass flair. works on all above named paints just dont press to hard when using rusto and krylon. sometimes makes a mess if you do.

i also have a few super skinny gold dots for touch ups but hardly use them. pink dots waste alto of paint but are good for bombing fast. i have rustos but all they do is make a bunch of noise. ny fats work better on most rusto cans any ways.

i basicly make sure i have ny thin and fat at all times and hooded greys as much as possable. the rest arnt all that important.

hoppe this helps all you kids save some $$$$$$ and time.

peace

ps im looking to cop some ny pink dots (beachballs) just to try them out. pm me if you know where to find them.

[AEROTCKILLERS]

DAMN I MIGHT BE SHOWING MY AGE HERE BUT WHY WAS THE NAME OF THE "NY THIN" CHANGED FROM "TESTER CAP" OR "NEAT CAP"
AND I REMEMBER WHEN THE "NY FAT" WAS JUST CALLED A "FATTY"
SOFTBALL CAPS WERE MADE AVAILABLE TO US CHICAGO WRITERS VIA THE DOLLAR STORE OVEN CLEANER CANS..
AND THE NEAT CAPS WERE MADE AVAILABLE TO US FROM A GARDENING PRODUCT NAMED "LEAF SHINE" OR A COOKING SPRAY NAMED "PAN LITE" IS IT JUST ME OR DOES ANYONE ELSE REMEMBER THESE PRODUCTS AS WELL???

[MOOGLE?]

il and wi ahve damn near seperate slang from the rest of the midwest..

i've heard them called either fats or ny fats since at least 88..


but then again i dont bother keeping up with current in aerosol accesories... i think i have a few of thos pink dots i bough twhen i was in minniapolis..for the super suckfest called scribble jam

[spade561]

i have a ny thin that i used on a rusto, and it isnt much thinner than the stock and the line isnt even a clean circle, its just a weird spray. is it the can or the cap or is that just the way that the NY thins are?

[Smack]

they need a cap that throws out 2 outlines in one spray, like parrell lines haha enough about caps i read like 4 BIG posts on caps everything was restated, grab some rusto fats and go bomb

[1THOU]

HEY I BEEN USING THE GOLD AND GREY DOTS, WHEN I SPRAY REAL CLOSE I CREATE A FINGER SIZE LINE, BUT I CANT GET THAT LINE ALL THE TIME IS IT BECAUSE I NEED TO PRACTICE CANCONTROL? MY INDEX FINGER BE SORE? ANDBODY HAVE TIPS TO BEING CONSISTENT ?

[Inhalant]

just slap on a level 5 montana cap on a montana and have fun!

[1THOU]

IS THAT A SKINNY CAP ?
WHERE CAN I FIND ONE?

[1THOU]

HOW DO YOU KEEP YOURSELF FROM CLOGGING A CAP
CAN YOU CLEAN A CAP ?

[Chaos]

Originally posted by 1THOU@Sep 30 2005, 07:25 PM
HOW DO YOU KEEP YOURSELF FROM CLOGGING A CAP
CAN YOU CLEAN A CAP ?
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shake the can

and to clean a cap let it soak in like paint thinner overnight or for a few ours

or when ur done with the cap turn the can upsidedown and spray until air comes out to get it all out of the nozzle

but never stick anything in the cap

[destroyinthesystem]

Originally posted by craigtx@Jun 20 2005, 03:53 AM
i use ny thins/fats, and gold/beige dots. they work the best for me.
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youve got the best method. gold dots are the best piecing cap!
stocks can make some pretty thin lines too...
pink dots are a waste of paint...
should be using ny fats or rusto fats for fills.

[destroyinthesystem]

Originally posted by craigtx@Jun 20 2005, 03:53 AM
i use ny thins/fats, and gold/beige dots. they work the best for me.
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youve got the best method. gold dots are the best piecing cap!
stocks can make some pretty thin lines too...
pink dots are a waste of paint...
should be using ny fats or rusto fats for fills.

[prevail00]

where can i buy all thoes pink dots, german outlines and all that shit
im stuck with the orignal caps on krylon and i want to try some new ones but i dont no where to find em

[casekonly]

fourthehardway.com

[rattleytins]

i reckon 99% of people looking on a caps thread will be toy (not saying im not) and if your toy, i see no problem whatsoever with stock caps and fat caps

however, whenever end up with a baffling multicoloured weird cap, i just spray it a wall in my bedroom or a floor and see what they're like, surely that makes more sense than searching through a thread to find out whats gonna happen.

hopefuly ive helped someone but overrall i think that although interesting, all fancy caps really are is gay, pretentious and confusing

[flip words]

alright, imma sound HELLA fucking stupid right now, but i havent used spray paint in a while, and when i did use spray paint, that was in my toy days. but anyways, i have no idea how the caps go onto the can. do you just pop them shits off then snap the cap on em or what? damn i feel retarded.

[goodtimes105]

from reading this i see alot of clogging issues. using brake cleaner w/ that little straw works good. ive used grey dots for two or three pieces with that method.

save money....

[GLIK$]

Originally posted by flip words@Nov 19 2005, 06:18 AM
alright, imma sound HELLA fucking stupid right now, but i havent used spray paint in a while, and when i did use spray paint, that was in my toy days. but anyways, i have no idea how the caps go onto the can. do you just pop them shits off then snap the cap on em or what? damn i feel retarded.
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nah man, dont feel bad. its a good question.

You gotta put the stem of the cap into the can. Look at the dot really close and push down on the cap to try to see if you have a secure fit. But its kinda hard so you gotta get your eye up real close to the dot on the cap when youre pushing it down.

[THE OMEN]

MIX YOUR OWN COLORS. "ALMOND WORKS WONDERS"
PUT RUSTO IN KRYLON CANS (THANKS ONESECONDFAG.)
AND USE NY THINS AND OR FATS....THEY HAVE THE BEST RECOGNITION SYSTEM EVER. CLOSE LINES ON THE CAP-THIN. FAR APART LINES ON THE CAP-FAT.

YEAH, I GOT PEER PRESSURE INTO BUY GREY DOTS...THEY'RE ALRIGHT-I PREFER NY THINS THO...YOU CAN FILL IN PRETTY QUICKLY THEN GET SOME MODERATELY THIN LINES GOING WITH OUT SWITCHING CAPS. I PERSONALLY THINK THOSE GERMAN CAPS AREN'T WORTH THE MONEY. ARTCRIMES.ORG-100 CAPS FOR 6 OR 7 BUCKS. DONE.

[flip words]

thanks BEEFEATER. i went bombing last night with spray paint (and markers and mops of course) and it was damn fun. but one time, i went to go hit up a fence, then the fucking cap popped off, so now i pretty much know how to switch caps now. i wanna know you peoples' opinion on which cap is the best for bombing. so lemme know. peace.

[tosters_stroot]

hahaha here is a realt gay question , haha




do all taggers tagg when the streets are that crouded

[oh so modern]

fats: rusto, or euro pink/orange dots
thins: ny thin, or euro yellow dots

otherwise i use level fives when i can get german montana.
peace.

[imported_IRON CHEF]

2 CAPS I GOT ,
WHAT DO THE "MASSES" CALL THEM-

BLACK ROUND HOOD- THIN LINE

WHITE ROUND HOOD- THIN LINE (not gold dot)

BOTH A LIL THINNER THAN A NY THIN.

FITS KRYLON/BELTON

[GLIK$]

Im sorry, but this thread is so incredibly horrible.

[gasfacevictm]

Originally posted by master bait@Mar 15 2005, 11:03 AM
one "euro" cap I recently found and think some people might like was called "level 5". it's extremely fat and high pressure... I think you can see it happen here:

http://www.90bpm.net/temp/boardpix/sunset.mov
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good god not again. that is not a fucking can of paint it is a canister that you can see in his left hand like a fire extiguisher. watch the video when he walsk between cars. it's a big ass jug.

[|Fresh|*]

man!!! i used a ny cap, i think a skinnie i think... and the cap is just pimp!!! i like this cap is fun to paint with the ny cap...

[JambaJuice]

Originally posted by flip words@Nov 24 2005, 12:56 PM
thanks BEEFEATER. i went bombing last night with spray paint (and markers and mops of course) and it was damn fun. but one time, i went to go hit up a fence, then the fucking cap popped off, so now i pretty much know how to switch caps now. i wanna know you peoples' opinion on which cap is the best for bombing. so lemme know. peace.
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I do outline, fill, and 3d with grey dots, but only when i'm bombing cars or houses, other than that i use level 2 green dots. Also, using gold spray paint is much better because it comes out cleaner and catches the eye of the public.

[ziponer]

http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6130/rustothin2hu.jpg
i bring you the rusto thin....(soft medium line) i bet no one has ever used on of theese before besides me...and select few other writers in the idaho area whom ive introduced to them...they are fuckin sweet.....(they come on dollar store tire protectants)

[fuck muni]

all this marketing bullshit abuot different caps with colors and dots and all this bulshit pisses me off

its simple, for fillins use rusto fats, ny fats, german fats
for outlines just use NY thins or stock caps.....i be rockin them stock caps, fucka extra thin cap....if your bombin it doesnt matter

[MRSOEMR]

after seeing what all of you know ill give you all some basic techinues with the caps. for me i just drain most of the areosol out of the can by turning the can upside down and alowing some pressure to get out. i'd only do this for about 30 to 40 seconds depending on how much paint is inside of the can. the results are good since you only would have to use a fixie( aka) ny thin and the lines are pretty thin. and that rusto thin is pretty good but i think if you can master pieces with ny thins you can do just about anything.

[FuzZy]

Originally posted by ziponer@Dec 9 2005, 12:14 AM
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6130/rustothin2hu.jpg
i bring you the rusto thin....(soft medium line) i bet no one has ever used on of theese before besides me...and select few other writers in the idaho area whom ive introduced to them...they are fuckin sweet.....(they come on dollar store tire protectants)
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used them back in 96'
your not cool :nut:

[Locofanclub]

The new banana coloured outline caps,which fit both Belton & Montana are lovely!

[CACashRefund]

Originally posted by FuzZy+Dec 27 2005, 07:53 AM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (FuzZy - Dec 27 2005, 07:53 AM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-ziponer@Dec 9 2005, 12:14 AM
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6130/rustothin2hu.jpg
i bring you the rusto thin....(soft medium line) i bet no one has ever used on of theese before besides me...and select few other writers in the idaho area whom ive introduced to them...they are fuckin sweet.....(they come on dollar store tire protectants)
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used them back in 96'
your not cool :nut:
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yeah theyre not new at all

[FuzZy]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
oh yeah there not thin caps either
atleast the ones I always had

[sect ebc]

well god damn fertilizer shit fire extiguishers i painted new houses for a while why not a sprayer
or one of those cheesy roller things on t.v that has the tube running to it

rusto,s
ny.y thins..........period

euro cap 3.67
gimme a break
suckers born everyday

[thegeneral]

what cap was used to make this tag?

[religion]

No problem. Your all very welcome!

http://i27.photobucket.com/albums/c195/religionone/faq_caps.jpg

I know it doesn't cover ALL caps, but this is most everything.

[religion]

My personal favorites are the Level 5, Level 1, Rusto, Needlecap, NY Fat and thin.

[EnoEzaf]

all i use is ny thins...i dont know why but thats all i like and theyre cheap as hell

[wickeder]

Okay so I figure i'm screwed here however I need some help.
I just bought a lot of krylon industrial tough coat paint but the paint uses female caps.

Anybody know where I can buy some female fat caps that I can put on these things? So far i'm finding that I can rack the caps off of scotch guard however I'm not into racking. Call me a chump for that all you want but i'm a moral person and don't believe in stealing.

Please don't instigate a debate with me over the fact that I paint graffiti and how it can be construed as stealing. Just help me out if you know anybody I can get this from.

Thanks

[chumbawumba]

Originally posted by thegeneral@Jan 8 2006, 05:59 PM
what cap was used to make this tag?
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NY Thin. 100% positive. Not too fat of a line, nice misty spray. NY Thin. THE Universal cap.

[i_write]

level5 goldcaps own .. hahahhhh

[religion]

Originally posted by wickeder@Jan 16 2006, 11:03 AM
Okay so I figure i'm screwed here however I need some help.
I just bought a lot of krylon industrial tough coat paint but the paint uses female caps.

Anybody know where I can buy some female fat caps that I can put on these things? So far i'm finding that I can rack the caps off of scotch guard however I'm not into racking. Call me a chump for that all you want but i'm a moral person and don't believe in stealing.

Please don't instigate a debate with me over the fact that I paint graffiti and how it can be construed as stealing. Just help me out if you know anybody I can get this from.

Thanks
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Your best bet is probably to learn to fill quickly with the stock that comes with. Dont under-rate stock caps... they are as good or bad as the writer behind them.

[wickeder]

Your best bet is probably to learn to fill quickly with the stock that comes with. Dont under-rate stock caps... they are as good or bad as the writer behind them.
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[/quote]

trust me i've used stock caps but it takes so much longer to fill with them in comparison to fat caps. i'll use them for sure however if there's a better way i'd like to figure it out.

[religion]

Cool. Let us know if you find any female fatcaps then. :privateeye: Also you could try cutting a bigger noth in the stem ala male fatcap or bore out the the actual eye of the nozzle a bit. Those are the only few things I can think of. :confused2:

[chumbawumba]

Damn wicked, that wouldn't suck too bad if you hadn't bought "a lot" of them... how many cans is a lot? Anyway pretty much all household sprays such as cleaners and hair products use female caps nowadays, so I'd say go have a field day in the cosmetics aisle and see what you come up with. Try out everything, just pop one off of each and bring em' home to test them. Might find something dope, you never know?

[i_write]

hairspray caps work for fats in most cases, but a stock of female works really good for fills .. well i use it anyway

[wickeder]

Originally posted by i_write@Jan 17 2006, 11:51 PM
hairspray caps work for fats in most cases, but a stock of female works really good for fills .. well i use it anyway
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I guess I'll use it all for fills then, I got a bunch of black hoping to use it for outlines but I may or not want to use it for that.

Thanks for the assitance

[FuzZy]

the only female caps I found online were thins and were on the Montana website, no luck on the fats
Just use the hairspray caps like everyone else is saying, they are also on scotchgaurd cans.........................

[toggle]

anyone know of a fat cap thatll fit the walmart colorplace paint. or even of a mod i can perform.

[The First of Faze]

Krylon "spray adhesive"(somethign like that) has wicked thin caps...just in case anyone wants some small peicing caps to rack..hit those up...they're red caps

[The First of Faze]

Originally posted by toggle@Jan 29 2006, 01:19 AM
anyone know of a fat cap thatll fit the walmart colorplace paint. or even of a mod i can perform.
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if i rememebr correctly colorpalce is made by krylon...so all nys and standard caps you can buy for graff should fit it besides montanas...

[The First of Faze]

Originally posted by FuzZy@Dec 27 2005, 03:57 PM
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
oh yeah there not thin caps either
atleast the ones I always had
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yeah you can tell they're not thin casue they're indented...at least thats my xperience is fat caps are alwasy indented...(liek the circle is pushed back farther than the outer shell of the cap)

[eric GrR]

yo pink dots are very wide jumbo caps 6-8inches in width

[The First of Faze]

/\/\Who is this addressed to? me? casue im not talkgin abotu pink dots..im talkign about kyrlon spray adhesive...

[dirmaster0]

Pink dots are overrated...If you want some fat ass spread...try out the caps that come on spray touch up things for ceilings (the white bumpy kind of ceilings...not being technical here)--and if you mod the cap (ill get pics of it unmodded n modded) it can get pretty fat...

(I strictly use modded caps I find off of random stuff, never buying NY fats even though thats all you really need--oh well...if anyone knows where some fats are (on diff products) lemme know please....) Peace

[toggle]

Originally posted by The First of Faze+Jan 31 2006, 09:25 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (The First of Faze - Jan 31 2006, 09:25 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-toggle@Jan 29 2006, 01:19 AM
anyone know of a fat cap thatll fit the walmart colorplace paint. or even of a mod i can perform.
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if i rememebr correctly colorpalce is made by krylon...so all nys and standard caps you can buy for graff should fit it besides montanas...
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[/b][/quote]
hate to cause static, but i dont think thats correct, the only caps i havent tryed are ny fats or any of the hooded caps. maybe thats what i need to do, but all i got its rustos and ny thins

[sEzE1]

I found a cap in my pocket that works pretty good......haha

[sEzE1]

check me out....23 posts in five years! Let this be a lesson to some....read more, learn more, talk less BS.......j/k :king:

[imported_IRON CHEF]

^ACTUALLY DON'T BE KIDDING.
BECAUSE YOUR ABSOLUTLY RIGHT.

PEACE.

[EKSOxo]

heres what that guy used in that video. he mixed paint in here pump the sit and it sprays. watch the video u can see the line running from the tank to the handle
http://www.planetnatural.com/planetnatural/images/large/garden-sprayer-large.jpg

by the way its used for spraying weed with weed killer

[illadelphjawn]

my favorite fat tip is off a can of "invisible glass" in the auto section at dept stores; fuck buying caps....

[swedish erotica]

Originally posted by ziponer@Dec 9 2005, 01:14 AM
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6130/rustothin2hu.jpg
i bring you the rusto thin....(soft medium line) i bet no one has ever used on of theese before besides me...and select few other writers in the idaho area whom ive introduced to them...they are fuckin sweet.....(they come on dollar store tire protectants)
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:chicken:

[toggle]

german outlines, thats that funkkky shit

[STYLEISKING]

http://www.woostercollective.com/images/2006/02/tiny-cap.jpg

[STYLEISKING]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2...1276&q=Graffiti (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-2140986865344161276&q=Graffiti)
skinny cap

[FlowingAway]

do ny-skinnys and ny-fats work well on spanish montana harcore ?

[KyleAnderson344]

what caps does everyone think is best for doing flares?

[runniggarun]

Originally posted by swedish erotica+Feb 18 2006, 04:08 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (swedish erotica - Feb 18 2006, 04:08 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-ziponer@Dec 9 2005, 01:14 AM
http://img522.imageshack.us/img522/6130/rustothin2hu.jpg
i bring you the rusto thin....(soft medium line) i bet no one has ever used on of theese before besides me...and select few other writers in the idaho area whom ive introduced to them...they are fuckin sweet.....(they come on dollar store tire protectants)
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:chicken:
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WHAT!!! thats tooo hard. Im gonna have to check around for them.

wat dollar store company?

[gettup85]

old art protectants like what you would spray over a freshly glazed pot or some shit use to have ny skinnys, if they still do i dont know, use to jockem off my old art techers set, get like 20 a week be set for the weekend

[bomstar]

im english so i havt to use these but i like the pink dot fats any 1 ever use a caligrapy cap i cant spell

[bomstar]

any uk writers now anywer on the net i can get rusto fat caps or any caps in large amounts an yes ive tried google

[MAR]

http://i16.photobucket.com/albums/b15/TheDoItYourselfWarehouse/dep153.jpg

how do the twins get that shadding? its nuts.

[timebomb]

alright, im out of town and i need to find some kind of then cap quick, any cans come stock with one besides the dollar store bull shit?

[MRSOEMR]

ANSWER TO THE TWINS QUESTION I DONT KNOW BUT I WOULD HAVE TO SAY LOW PRESSURE. YOU KNOW LETTING THE AROSOL OUT.

[MAR]

they use alot of alien so that would make sense.

[thebigjvo]

Originally posted by KyleAnderson344@Feb 25 2006, 03:03 PM
what caps does everyone think is best for doing flares?
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fuckin pink dots and krylon!!!!!! that shit is SAUCY!

[MASHE]

I USED A PINK DOT ON A RUSTO CHROME AND THAT SHIT SPIT IT OUT MAN AND WHEN IT DID ALL THIS PAINT BLEW OUT!YO I HAVEN TUSED IT ON KRYLON BUT I DID USE IT ON THOSE WAL-MART $1 CANS.WORKED FUCKEN DOPE.GOOD FOR QUICK BIG ASS BOMBS AND DESTROYING OTHER MOTHAFUCKER

[doinitagain]

^wow...no shit...thats incredible

[+1up]

Does anyone have pics of how a calligraphy cap sprays? Large or small. Yeah I searched already.

[MRSOEMR]

I AINT GOT A FLICK BUT I CAN SAY IT LOOKS HOW EVER YOU MAKE IT LOOK. THAT CONTROL MAKES A DIFFRINCE.

["inkie"]

Rusto fats come on elmers spray glue... just so you know

[+1up]

fa real

[THE STIX]

swedish iv used one of those before.. found one on some rusty can in my boys garage..

[THE STIX]

i jacked a hole bunch of harley divison wd-40 type caps.. and a hole bunch of black caps thats look like ny fats of some kyrlon short cuts... and ya...shyt shoots out like a stream of piss....i paint with rust fats.. thats it.. i dont really care.. nor do i feel like spending money on graffiti supplies....

[alwaysHI]

yeah.......f

[MelkRman]

New yorks are the best. Deal with it. But some others are better such as the pink dot and german out line. But fuck the needle cap shits so fuckin gay, doesnt even spray skinny, fuck!

[i rob old people]

i bought some NY fats, gray dots and black dots today but they dont fit on the cans i have. exports and white knight squirts.
if anyone has seen a list or could make a list of what caps fit on what cans that would be sick.

[rattleytins]

ye a list of caps and their pressure and thickness would eliminate any need forthis thread.
there must be a list likethat some where

[+1up]

....
Stolen off Montana
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y103/umlikeumlike/Other/Caps.jpg

[8.5x11]

how are ny thins on rusto? i read somewhere that they don't have a very clean line when put on rusto in comparison to on krylon.

[MOE-LESTER]

the new krylon H20 comes with NY fats on em...im assumin its because the H20 paint is latex and needs a larger cap for dispersion

[bomberzbest1]

the best caps are ny fats/thins....ive tried montana astro fat,yellow thin pinks oranges they decent

[Strudel]

how do you tell if your cap is a male or female. I know this is supposed to be common knowledge but I have no fuckin Idea haha

[toxus]

how do you tell if your cap is a male or female. I know this is supposed to be common knowledge but I have no fuckin Idea haha
well, if it has a part that you have to push into the can, then its male. If theres a hole, then its a female, just like humans really :)

[Strudel]

crap... I got female cans only here in china.... son of a BITCH! sooo I should be using household spray products for alternative caps? I hear that female caps aren't good for anything... not even fills. Is this true?

Cuz I can't get any other typa can here in shanghai... fuck.

[Sero_332]

crap... I got female cans only here in china.... son of a BITCH! sooo I should be using household spray products for alternative caps? I hear that female caps aren't good for anything... not even fills. Is this true?

Cuz I can't get any other typa can here in shanghai... fuck.

i dont really see the issue, most cans are female, all the good ones, rusto, belton, montana, colorplace etc. ive actually never seen a male can. pretty much all specialty caps are male so theyll work with more cans, so dont worry about it.

[IROCKHOES]

Anyone know if level 5's work on rusto or krylon, Also anyone use basketball caps?

[Strudel]

i dont really see the issue, most cans are female, all the good ones, rusto, belton, montana, colorplace etc. ive actually never seen a male can. pretty much all specialty caps are male so theyll work with more cans, so dont worry about it.

But my cans are male... not female hahaha. My CAPS are female. Like..... are male cans+ female caps good for anything?

[DEMO]

hahaha here is a realt gay question , haha




do all taggers tagg when the streets are that crouded



oh, you betcha.


the more people see it the better it is!!!:D

[rattleytins]

pinkdots are 12cm?

[just bomb it]

pinkdots are 12cm?
it depends on tha can.i love useing pink dots on krylon flat black.tha reuslts are the same as a gold cap if you do it right:scrambled:

[Mistery]

one "euro" cap I recently found and think some people might like was called "level 5". it's extremely fat and high pressure... I think you can see it happen here:

http://www.90bpm.net/temp/boardpix/sunset.mov

just to let yoou know

he is using one of those pesticide sprayers filled with paint

those jug things you fill with pesticided and pump then spray

this migh thave been told allready sorry

[just bomb it]

just to let yoou know

he is using one of those pesticide sprayers filled with paint

those jug things you fill with pesticided and pump then spray

this migh thave been told allready sorry

lol my friend has one of those and it sprays just as fat.

[dabronxforeva212]

STRIKLY RUSTO FATZ AND BANANA SKINNIEZ NAMEAN
RUSTO GOT THAT GUSTO, AND DO'Z KAPZ WERK BEST ON IT NA MEAN..

[MelkRman]

I wanna pick me up one of those sprayers. thats dope as fuck!!

[FUCKMUNI]

i need a super skinny cap that fits RUSTO! theres too many fuckin choices i dont know which one to use. something skinnier than ny thins

[rolling nowhere]

i need a super skinny cap that fits RUSTO! theres too many fuckin choices i dont know which one to use. something skinnier than ny thins

try a black dot. people tell me they work on rusto. i only use fat caps on rusto.

[_nightcrawler]

Anyone heard of the "GHOST CAP"?

[fuckyoutoo]

http://www.crewest.com/shop/images/inv/caps/newcap/yellowdot.jpg
are these fat on krylons

[poopslush]

No, its the grey ones like that with the ridge on them that sprays fat on krylon

[poopslush]

try a black dot. people tell me they work on rusto. i only use fat caps on rusto.

They work on most cans, others they leak like mofos

[+1up]

can anyone link me to that step by step topic where it shows the guy puts all the clogged caps into that gumball machine and cleans the out with the thinner?

[B4youGrabbedAmarker]

Anyone heard of the "GHOST CAP"?

Ive heard of a phantom cap

[+1up]

Anybody know what tips you can do flares with?

[Forte]

the only female caps I found online were thins and were on the Montana website, no luck on the fats
Just use the hairspray caps like everyone else is saying, they are also on scotchgaurd cans.........................


Go to wal mart or CVS or something, go to the AXE section and look for the minis. The have female fat caps(atleast i think, seeing as how i sprayed some AXE to test it out)

[bomberzbest1]

ny skinnies r ggggggggggoooooooooooooooooooooooodddddddddddddddd ddddd for FLARES!!!!! WITH KRYLON CAN

[Strudel]

Thanks man!

[quadra666]

what fat caps fit KILZ

[tonysoprano]

from left to right, first one is the fattest and the last is the thinest. The black cap with a yellow dot and the grey cap next to it with a black dot are the same and all of these work on spainish montana and beltons, there are more thin caps for beltons that are white with a black dot and white with a gold dot but they clog up quick on montana. Also that black cap with a white dot is shit on montana.
http://i36.photobucket.com/albums/e16/fattonysoprano/DSCF0481.jpg

[tonysoprano]

them gold caps with black dots are about the same as pink dots

[tonysoprano]

pink dots and the silver one next to it are roughly the same just the pink one isnt as smooth

["inkie"]

what is an la cap. and only rich kids buy caps online, just get rusto fats off elmers spray glue

[ADEL]

can anyone link me to that step by step topic where it shows the guy puts all the clogged caps into that gumball machine and cleans the out with the thinner?

It's on wooster collective, good site, well anyways I'll get the link, Wooster Collectives how to section. (http://www.woostercollective.com/how_to/). Lots of good how-to's. The one to clean caps is near the bottom.

[bomberzbest1]

caps r cheap 6 dollars for 100 , ny fats fit on kilz

[ADEL]

is it 6$ for a hundred on 4thehardway? I olny ordered from artprimo once but it was like 3 for 10 pink dots or something.

-- can someone list where to get these caps without being a rich boy and ordering internet?
-I saw something about rusto fats on elmers glue?
- NY thins on krylon workable fixatif?
I don't know if this is where they are just what I've heard hav'nt used either so..
Do rusto fats only work good on rusto? lol that's a toy question but my friend told me he had them and they where shit on krylon. lol. peace.

[+1up]

It's on wooster collective, good site, well anyways I'll get the link, Wooster Collectives how to section. (http://www.woostercollective.com/how_to/). Lots of good how-to's. The one to clean caps is near the bottom.
sweet, thanks a bunch.

[ADEL]

no problem.

[bomberzbest1]

the krylon h2o have ny fats , just order off artcrimes.com 6$+1.50 shippin = cheap its not much compared to the california gas!!!

[ADEL]

k, thanks. The only thing is like my mom is hella nosy cuz I have already been in trouble from graff when I was a toy. lol I still am a toy. I ordered belton and she got all pissed and I said it's for my "artisitc" needs or whatever the fuck I said. I'll probably order NY fats and NY thins. Thanks. laterzz

[bomberzbest1]

wuz up with euro paint ?? waste of money just get rusto or krylon or painters touch , theres good paint here in the states

[ADEL]

Lol, i know i know, just seein if they where as good as I here. It smells good tho.:D

[quadra666]

yo how do u tell the NY fats and thins apart they both look the same and i dont know the difference....

???

[ADEL]

same here, as far as I know I hav'nt ever used ny thins. I always was told that NY thins where as clean as grey dots too. I have some grey dots that are hella clean and then I got pink dots for my flairs but you have to do em1 big if I don't what drips. I hav'nt used my NY Fats yet I can't find em lol. Do they flair like pinks just skinnier?

[quadra666]

same here, as far as I know I hav'nt ever used ny thins. I always was told that NY thins where as clean as grey dots too. I have some grey dots that are hella clean and then I got pink dots for my flairs but you have to do em1 big if I don't what drips. I hav'nt used my NY Fats yet I can't find em lol. Do they flair like pinks just skinnier?


just got em havent used em yet.

just picked up a shitload of caps, but they are all unique lookin cept the NY fats and NY thins looks exactly the same....

i have always used stocks until now so yea i am a toy i dont know shit about these fuckin caps... i dont want to have to test out every single one to see which is which...

[ADEL]

you can send em to me. :D

[quadra666]

yea ill get right on that
u can help me tell which are which!
whats ur address ill send em today



*sarcasm*

[TAPSR1]

try the all yellow caps with the black dots they are a universal cap....the line thickness stays the same for the most part (i.e not a fat on krylon but skinny on montana's) and there a outline cap!

[+1up]

You can get a ghetto calligraphy tip off a spray fabric adhesive can. It sprays hella wide but in just a thin straight line but you can adjust the "nose" of it to make different style sprays. The can is black with green lettering. You can find it at home depot/lowes.

[quadra666]

ny fats and ny thins ...

they both seem identical

i got a big mixed bag of them and cant tell them apart lol..........

any help?

[8.5x11]

the dot on the ny fats are pushed back further than the ny thins.

[Spazzy]

The NY Thins, for me, work on some colors but not on others. On black on both Krylon and Rusto, the line came out fat. What the hell? But then on some other colors on Krylon and Rusto the line did what it was supposed to (I think... I'm a super toy. lol Just starting out) and came out relatively clean. .... Never tried the NY Fats.

[BabyB]

I just read thru damn near every page of this thread and so many times wanted to comment on different shit I read when I came to a realization. NOONE CAN TELL YOU WHAT CAPS ARE BEST, YOU HAVE TO TRY THEM OUT FOR YOURSELF AND USE WHAT IS COMFORTABLE AND FEELS RIGHT TO YOU

[buffalosoldier]

Rusto fats.

[ADEL]

lol ^^^

well anewayzzz.
I can name off what you need, and I have not used every cap.

-NY FAT
-NY THIN
-PINK DOT
-GREY DOT
(I have never used a rusto fat but it seems the same as a NY fat to me.)
- and if you need it CALLIGRAPHY CAP

^^^^- I only added the calligraphy cap becuase it is different then the other caps.

PINK DOT/NY FAT- fill's
NY THIN/GREY DOT/NY FAT- Outline
ALL for tags.

Now for peicing I would just suggest a Grey dot. If you want a quicker fill use whatever but I like them better than a NY THIN. If you want the forcefeild thicker than outline just double it up, don't use a bigger cap.

[+1up]

the dot on the ny fats are pushed back further than the ny thins.
Yeah and the ridges on the side are farther apart than on an Ny thin

[ADEL]

I've never used them so I don't know if it is cap or valving but does anyone know anything about hte Montana Spider cans? that shit looked bonkers but I've never even used montana :D

[BabyB]

I dont remember who was asking for it but i found female caps last night at walmart. they are on the scotch guard and magic sizing and all those spray starchs

[+1up]

And on many many many auto care cans. It pisses me off.

[BabyB]

And on many many many auto care cans. It pisses me off.
why does it piss you off? just pop them off and put them in your pocket

[+1up]

cuz all i use is rusto and most auto can tips dont have the penis thingy on em so they worthless unless you have male valve'd cans (Which suck)

[BabyB]

cuz all i use is rusto and most auto can tips dont have the penis thingy on em so they worthless unless you have male valve'd cans (Which suck)
oh ok. just use the variuos methods of aqquiring male caps that are listed.

[IROCKHOES]

Anyone know anything about basketball caps?

[bomberzbest1]

never heard of that

[IROCKHOES]

There supposed to be on some can or product and make very big fat lines on normal cans of paint, but I dont know what product it comes with.

[(...ZAC...ONE...THREE...)]

caps that fit on kilz? caps that fit on walmart cans? anybody know?

[bomberzbest1]

3 caps is all u need ny fats skinny montana grey hooded black dot(thin)
kilz ny fat skinny
wal mart ny fat

[IROCKHOES]

Most caps fit on walmart, ny's rusto's pink dots dont.

[IROCKHOES]

Anyone try out the pesiticide sprayers? You guys use alot of paint thinner in those or what?