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From every thing I have read and seen about irak aren’t they hipsters as well as writers?
isit possible to coincide with live a graffiti life style and also actively be involved with fashion show parties and clothing lines?
Is andre a writer or a hipster because of his involement with Bape?
Or the fact that he produces clothing as well as being one of the most well recognised Parisian writers
Yes I know my spelling is shit. So there is no need to tell me!
Originally posted by Good Morning Captain@Dec 9 2004, 04:42 PM My favorite thing about this thread is the dude that was like "Those skulls are biting Giant. Giant could do those skulls better!" and then come to find out that Giant did those skulls.
Your favorite part of this thread would be me then, cant blame you,but the point still remains if you read through carefully.
If those are giants skulls tattooed on dudes chest then they're the worse giant skulls i've seen. I aint lying, go check his website and tell me about it.
Secondly, if those are giants skulls, and irak crew used them for a tshirt of their own its weak. For two reasons, one is stated above- they dont reach the quality giant usually has- and two, because if you're such a notorious crew i'd expect to come off with your own designs for your shirts rather than the worst giant skulls and some cheap barbara kruger bite.
I stay on my initial view, more power to them for trying to make the more they can, the i rak ny is a dope tshirt considering their thing, and i hold the right to critisize what i see in terms of nice/bad, cheap/classy without even being a hater.
Originally posted by Tesseract@Dec 9 2004, 06:43 PM
Secondly, if those are giants skulls, and irak crew used them for a tshirt of their own its weak. .
Originally posted by <KEY3>+Dec 7 2004, 03:55 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (<KEY3> - Dec 7 2004, 03:55 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-trackstand@Dec 7 2004, 04:27 PM What a weird thread.
Originally posted by Good Morning Captain+Dec 9 2004, 08:36 PM--><div class='quotetop'>QUOTE (Good Morning Captain - Dec 9 2004, 08:36 PM)</div><div class='quotemain'><!--QuoteBegin-Tesseract@Dec 9 2004, 06:43 PM
Secondly, if those are giants skulls, and irak crew used them for a tshirt of their own its weak. .
my take on it is like this:
IRAK is not the best crew out there. they are simply the most notorious right now. no one can truly believe that they are the most talented...so why should they have extravegant designs then?
i think their t-shirts are congruent to their graff- make it bold, recognisable, and (god willing) just as ubiquitous. also- i think this represents getting over on people in the literal sense- a bunch of tags with legs roaming around the city as free fame (advertising.). as if racking shit and bombing the fuck out of NY is not enough.
i am not promoting their designs, or choice to make t-shirts, it just makes a lot of sense to me.
and finally, it can be gathered that a few of the members of Irak are set and have nothing to worry about. why then would they try to make money off selling t- shirts?
Originally posted by steelchef@Dec 10 2004, 12:29 AM
and finally, it can be gathered that a few of the members of Irak are set and have nothing to worry about. why then would they try to make money off selling t- shirts?
personally, i think it makes perfect sense that they would just rip off other peoples designs. as steelchef said, irak has never been known for talent (outside of earsnots hand perhaps). they're known for whyling out and not giving a fuck....which is inline with the designs.
whatever, i aint mad at them. actually im glad they do shit like this, it makes it way easier for me to laugh at dumb ass white bitches who spend $65 on a tshirt.
look, we'll cross the "hesh accidentally shot himself in the ass" bridge when we come to it. no homo
*BLACK OUT POSSE*
they're known for a lot more than that. most kids in that crew simply crush shit. sace and earsnot are most talked about, but many others including sperm, fanta, year, zer, and kent have tore up manhattan pretty thoroughly as well. it's a sick pace to keep up, but you still can't go to too many places in nyc and not see sace and/or earsnot (or at least irak) up somehow (usually huge sloppy krink tags or throwups). when you consider what a relatively short period of time they did this in, it's pretty impressive from a bombing point of view. as far as talent... that depends what your looking at. they don't really piece, they don't really do galleries, but as far as bombing... i'd say sace and earsnot have definately written their chapter in graffiti history whether you like their shit or not. beyond that, most kids in that crew are personalities. it's been a long time since writers transcended into becoming street celebrities, and the kids in that crew seem to have an affinity for it. they're arguably the poster children for the lower east side, and show up to most events like rock stars. for the most part, they get treated like so as well. how many other writers get asked to be in photo spreads from so many magazines ranging from graff to culture to fashion? clearly they found their niche and are juicing it for all it's worth or we wouldn't be talking about them.
also the shirts are $28 last i saw which is about average, if not slightly below average, in cost for a tee shirt in nyc these days.
yeah, but $28 isnt that much. i needed to exagerate in order to prove my (futile) point.
i like year's graff. dude is sweet.
i was looking at some pd&c t shirts yesterday. $44 dollars and the damn thing looked like it was sewn inside out. it was pretty damn soft though. but fuck that, i'll just sew my own.
look, we'll cross the "hesh accidentally shot himself in the ass" bridge when we come to it. no homo
*BLACK OUT POSSE*
what a crazy ass thread..these irak dudes are def. sick fux just like me. i love how they are selling the whole image of drugs graff crime and violence. this shit goes hand in hand..at leazt for me it does.
Considering Ear Snot went from being homeless and sleeping on trains, to this, I got the utmost respect...I mean NYC is a dog eat dog place, going from living off of stealing, to making clothing based on your crew, WHY NOT????Im gonna assume, Snot didnt even put up his own money to do this, someon probably begged him to do this....People are also forgetting that dudes like SEMZ, CINIK,REMO etc, were pretty much all city...A lot more people are down with IRAK then you know..SACE is one of the most dedicated writers ive ever met...I watched him litteraly hang off a 10 story building with nothing holding him up, to catch tags...SEMEN is one of the funniest most down to earth people ive ever met, or at least he used to be...I used to chill with them all the time, and Snots raking skills are mindblowing...Wed be standing outside a store, and hed literally take orders for what people wanted, and come outside with his pockets bulging....I could go on and on...As far as the celebrity status stuff, i kind of never liked all that bullshit, but people jocked the hell out of them...So fuck it...
i was in some graff store in LA years ago and they had a big sign on the counter, bitching at people about 'respect' because someone caught a small scribe tag on the glass of one of the display boxes. that made me laugh.
look, we'll cross the "hesh accidentally shot himself in the ass" bridge when we come to it. no homo
*BLACK OUT POSSE*
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