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definitely to THEME...also to SOUR, CHARM, TOYS, TUME, ISH, SUCKER-and there used to be a grip of people into the whole wheatpasting thing...that had a huge influence on a lot of the shit you see and of course TAER...the handstyles were all mostly NY influeneced until homeboy came on the scene...but 8-9 years ago aside from the dudes listed above and maybe a small group of other cats...there wasn't shit running