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Alright. I've seen enough. My turn. What's with all of you? Joker and Ouija do 'abstract' graffiti and you crucify Ouija for not being the first to do it. You say that Ouija bites Joker but you don't go after anyone else. That's pretty toy to be going after some of the people who are starting the abstract movement in graffiti. It's like with going to the new world... Columbus supposedly did it first but people had to do it after him, perhaps even in the same way to get things done. And the rest of transcend crew is doing this to get abstract graf established. If it was only Joker doing it what good is it? It needs to be bigger than just one person, and it already is. I know Ouija can take care of himself but he shouldn't have to deal with the crap that's given to him in the later posts of his flicks. He has a dope style and I respect his work.
that's all.
i love my friends...even the ones i just met, and i support all of you because i love you, but this makes me sick.
im through with this. i am the most diplomatic mother fucker in the world but enough is enough. im off the boards...close my name and take me off mod duty. i dont wish to converse with fuck heads, nor to watch my friends get bagged on by a bunch of toys who have no idea what its like to have an original idea, or to work a style from nothing for years.
ill never stop writing, but graffiti as a culture sucks. and you all helped to ruin it every time you talked shit, or acted like a catty bunch of fucking babies.
bye.
well people the ginger bread man is also logging off...live prosperous
i love my friends...even the ones i just met, and i support all of you because i love you, but this makes me sick.
im through with this. i am the most diplomatic mother fucker in the world but enough is enough. im off the boards...close my name and take me off mod duty. i dont wish to converse with fuck heads, nor to watch my friends get bagged on by a bunch of toys who have no idea what its like to have an original idea, or to work a style from nothing for years.
ill never stop writing, but graffiti as a culture sucks. and you all helped to ruin it every time you talked shit, or acted like a catty bunch of fucking babies.
bye.
well people the ginger bread man is also logging off...live prosperous
hahahahaha this place is going to shit
it's going to funny in a couple months when there are only toys with bad attitudes left giving other toys with bad attitudes advice
Originally posted by Ouija:
Why don't you take a look for yourself, Jet, and quit before you dig yourself a hole you can't get out of. www.graffiti.org/sins
HE's right! here,im borrowing these(if you dont mind)just to show that Ouija and Joker have a very different style , the only thing similar is that they are put under a genre of abstract style, im usin there sketches as an example ...
[img]http://www.graffiti.org/sins/directory/artists/joker/paper/joker28.jpg'>
[img]http://www.graffiti.org/sins/directory/artists/ouija/paper/ouija01.jpg'>
all borrowed from http://www.graffiti.org/sins , so just look, both of you have a fuckin badass style so do what you gotta do!!
You're taking this too far by thinking, or even considering switching up styles...You know what, no matter what you're never going to please EVERYBODOY...NO ONE IS...Regardless of what style you do, someone is always going to rip you apart, and what is most fucked up is that it's always those who haven't spent half of the time YOU have putting work on walls...They don't understand what the fuck this is all about. Too many kats out there got that "HARDCORE FUCK LEGAL WALLS MY NUTS ARE THE SIZE OF PLANETS I NEVER BOUGHT A CAN" mentality...Just like Grey wasn't posted on HiFi without a footnote under his pictures saying that Grey hesitated to put his flix on line, that the wall he did on that flick shot was not a legal, and that all the work he has put out on the streets have been strictly from racked cans....you know what?
FUCK THAT MENTALITY....we're all here for different purposes, and I'm with you on the purpose or doing art, fuck it if Jet wants to pose as a hard ass or all these other kats let them do what they want...Please only but yourself bro, I know positive reinforcement helps the artist, but sometimes it's those who bend the rules that are most remembered, that are most inspiring..
About the Joker thing, I can see a resemblance, but that doesn't mean you've been biting like some of these kats claim...In that case we can all sit here and say we are biters, because we do 3-d on letters, because at one point we have used arrows, because at one point we have all put a force field on our pieces, a flare, a fade...Is that really exclusive to kats from the 90's? LOL hardly son...if anything we've taken those ideas and flipped them to our style...for example, pointing an arrow somewhere else, fading in a different style...this is what we all do, this is what you do too, but biting is when u have no original imput in your work...and i see originality in yours...so props man...
be hated, be loved, be looked at different, in all that shit will always happen...
stick up for what u beleive, that's always the hardest thing to do at times, but the most rewarding...
06-12-2001, 09:09 PM
