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men...... I was raped, somewhat... and the guy who did it was 'nice' enough to get angry and want to kill some guy who accidently punched me in the face yet he 'cared' about me enough to rape me... when his friends asked him about it he didnt admit to it of course because " look... im nice enough to kick that guys ass who punched her, why would i rape her?? " aaaaaaaaaaasshole.
man oh man.
crazy topic bro.
off the bat, i don't personally know of anyone who
has been raped *but* my younger sister was sexually
assaulted on 2 separate occasions.
i don't know of any people that i'm
regularly aquainted with that rape. i'm beyond all doubts
that any of my inner circle of homies have behaved less
than perfect gentlemen when it comes to the ladies.
we've all had our collective experiences in formative years
and talked about them at length together and one-on-one.
that said, we are all well aware of our 'potential' if you
want to call it that. some of my boys and i have regular
chats about our girls, ourselves, and all the hot women we
encounter daily. i have spent some time mulling over the bizarre world
of male sexuality, in general, and my own sexuality.
i also want to say that i have not personally envisioned, or fantasized ever about raping a women. i HAVE fantasized about MANY other fucked up sexual things with females, but in them, the female is ALWAYS down and a willing participant.
i have some other thoughts, but i'm not so sure they are in line with
rape..more on the weird sexual biology of men than the total power dynamic of rape.
i think it would be good if not only men were being honest on this topic and
on sex in general, but also women. if any of you have ever tried to explain male
sexuality to your girl in depth...shit can get hectic.
when i was younger i had a music teacher who was a super cool dude, and beyond some old lady music teacher type shit i became friends with him and his wife. he was still in college so i could relate to them more. he suggested to me when i was looking to get a new instrument to go to a store where his sister worked in a nearby city and while shopping there for a violin i realized how cool his sister was too. she was funny, played the violin amazingly, bright and cute with a lot of potential. id say she was probably 19 or 20 at the time.
months after that we heard from friends that she stopped working at the music shop and started working at a local wal mart. apparently her boss grabbed her and took her into the back and raped her. after that, she was obviously extremely traumatized and broken. she'll probably never live up to all the potential she had. on top of that, her whole family was devastated and my music teacher cancelled all lessons and i havent heard from him or his wife since.
when i heard about it i couldnt believe how shitty of a person this guy was, even though i wasnt directly connected to her family i really wanted to kick this guys ass for what he did.
The only girl that I knew personally that was raped, ended up going through about a year of extreme emtional pain and eventually ended up killing hersaelf because she said she couldn't handle living wiith the memories and the pain of it. It was blamed on a drug habit but that habit was never started until after she was raped.
i used to fuck around with this girl that wished she would get raped..she was a tall beaut from boston.her fantacy is some guys pulling her into hte woods and raping her.
i know two girls who've been raped. one was an ex girlfriend and the other was more of a family friend. it's really had a big effect on both their psyche and emotional well being.
damn, this thread is kind of a shock...most of you people know girls that have been raped...is the ratio of rapes that big in the states? and asking a question that may have me look like an ass, but what exaclty do you mean by rape? dont get me wrong but i'm sometimes sceptical over how americans view things...take sexual harasment for example before the mass hysteria i doubt any girl would sue a man at work just for looking at her ass or making a ,bad, but harmless joke...to return to rape, my definiton of rape is when a girl is assaulted on the street, elevator, wherever and she's being fucked violently maybe beaten aswell...another thing is when a girl is drunk and out of control and she stupidly follows a guy somewhere does a few tricks and then without her will gets fucked just because things went to far....i only mentioned two examples and its getting complicated....dont get me wrong, i cant stand sexual crime at all and whenever i though about that i found my self willing to kill, something i wouldnt do in many cases. Still there are issues about rape that include BOTH parties..willy's story is disgusting but theres some truth in the fact that some girls come back to get raped...i dunno under a biggest spectrum rape sometimes seem as the exploitation of someones stupidness or insecurities...being humiliated in general...i dont know personally no girl that has been raped but i'm sure i know a dozen of girls that fucked someone without wanting it, just to be cool or out of extreme lack of personal voice....this is sad but not exaclty 'rape'
I witnessed a situation (via a video tape) that was pretty fucked up. I don't know if you would qualify it as a rape or not. I saw the video tape a week after it happened.
Here's the situation:
One of my college friends had a bachelor party. They hired a couple of strippers. Everybody was having a good time and getting really fucked up, including the strippers. After the strippers were done, one of them had to leave for her next gig. The other decided to stay and party.
In order to make a long story short, the bachelor ended up in a back room with her and was messing around with her. At some point in time one of the guys rolled in with the video camera and started taping. The stripper was pretty fucked up, but she seemed down with what she was doing. One thing led to another and he started fucking her.
While he was fucking her, another guy whipped his dick out and literally dropped it on her face. So, she started giving head to him while the other guy was still fucking her. This guy was saying all kinds of fucked up shit to her. When the bachelor finished up, another guy jumped in and started fucking her. This girl never said no....stop, but she was pretty fucked up and I don't know exactly how "with it" she was. All in all, I'd say maybe 5 or 6 guys ended up fucking her. Some of these guys were literally lined up, waiting. On top of this, one guy stole all the money she had just made.
Its safe to say (after I watched the video tape) that I was glad I wasn't able to make it to the party. I knew most of the guys at the party and definitely looked at some of them differently after that. At the time, I don't remember ever thinking of anyone as a rapist. I remember thinking it was one of the most fucked up bachelor parties I had ever seen. Everyone blamed what happened on the stripper being a complete whore....and themselves being really fucked up.
I haven't thought about this since I watched the video tape. Reading all the posts made me start to kinda question what happened. This kinda strikes me as a really fine line type of thing. Granted the girl never said no or stop, but I'm not entirely sure she could have. Hell I don't even know if she realized how many different guys there were. Thoughts?
i was raped when i was younger. it kinda taught me to block things out.. so.. now i dont have problems with anything anymore.. and i just put it away.. im sure im going to get an ulcer.
Man, i cant really say if that was a rape or not...sometimes our own views and feelings alternate things...she could be having fun, apart from being jacked as well, she could also be so fucked up that didnt actually realise. Still, our views and feelings translate to our ethics in general..your story strikes me as a scene with the worst kind of people, i'm not a conservative person but i never thought that it would be fun to share a girl, even its just a fuck...in all my life i always wanted to feel something for a girl, either in a relationship or an one night stand...i totally dont understand how people can view sex with such brutality and anger...i'm sure theres a strong pshychological thing on the background, taking dirty to a girl may be fun, but fucking and feel like punishing is sad, the least. As far as the girl goes, i never believed that you can be SO fucked up...i know dozens of girls that get totally wasted and still dont end up in that position...i'm sure she realised that she was multifucked unless she passed out...
My guess is that when you got no clue about your self you seek emotions and enthusiasm from anything you can...you also have a strong feeling of being part of something..under that spectrum people can and will do anything...that extends to alot of things
man girls piss me of when theyre drunk, i see girls all the time who get hella faded and just throw themselves at guys, like girls will straight up crawl ona guys nuts while dudes just chilling there. but when girls get hella hella hella faded theyres definitelty are a lot of guys who try and take advantage of girls, one time after a keg hella people were in my room
and a few of them left to get something to eat, and me and my homie were just chilling in my room
and this one girl was passed out on my bed
and my freind was sitting on my bed to
and i was in my armchair, and my freind looked at the girl on the bed and was like, yo can you leave us alone for a minute, i was like dude i cant even do that shes passed out your not goign to take advantage of her, i was really surprised he would even think of doing that. later he tried telling me that she had asked if he wanted head, but i definitely would have seen that cause i never left the room, and she didnt talk like at all. definitely a shocking moment, i couldnt believe my homie would try and get down like that.my other homies sister got raped and like 40 dudes beat the shit out of this guy, they may have even killed him. this happened when we were like in 5th grade, so i dont remember what happened
but i remember wanting to go with them and beeat the dude with our skateboards
cities dozing, get bombed to hell without any knowing..
WHATS WITH ALL THESE CHICKS wanting to be raped??? ......i know this girl that someone attempted to rape in road daylite when she in year 7 .......her fantasy is to be dominated ....... and another who was abused as a little girl who whenver she drinks absolutely must get some cock no exceptions........do you guys know the "stockholm syndrome"???maybe girls with past experiences of rape develop something similir to that where they turn into girls who want to be sexually used and or raped?.....as im writing this i remember another girl who was raped and she is now a mega slut, offering to suck off people shes met 5 minutes ago even without being drunk
BTW tesseract about the stripper how is that even close rape ..esp. if she was giving head at the same time.....probly happens at every party she goes to
Originally posted by Tesseract Man, i cant really say if that was a rape or not...sometimes our own views and feelings alternate things...she could be having fun
Originally posted by Nothing man girls piss me of when theyre drunk, i see girls all the time who get hella faded and just throw themselves at guys, like girls will straight up crawl ona guys nuts while dudes just chilling there. but when girls get hella hella hella faded theyres definitelty are a lot of guys who try and take advantage of girls, one time after a keg hella people were in my room
and a few of them left to get something to eat, and me and my homie were just chilling in my room
and this one girl was passed out on my bed
and my freind was sitting on my bed to
and i was in my armchair, and my freind looked at the girl on the bed and was like, yo can you leave us alone for a minute, i was like dude i cant even do that shes passed out your not goign to take advantage of her, i was really surprised he would even think of doing that. later he tried telling me that she had asked if he wanted head, but i definitely would have seen that cause i never left the room, and she didnt talk like at all. definitely a shocking moment, i couldnt believe my homie would try and get down like that.my other homies sister got raped and like 40 dudes beat the shit out of this guy, they may have even killed him. this happened when we were like in 5th grade, so i dont remember what happened
but i remember wanting to go with them and beeat the dude with our skateboards
whats wrong with what your boy did???? ...he was probly just planning to lie next to her and like shake her a bit to wake her up, in which case she would have known what was up and given up the pussy.........you dont know that he was going to rape her when she asleep or nothing
some of you boys aree getting confused with fairplay and rape .... dont get me wrong i dont like rapists as much as the next guy esp. if it was a girl i was close to, but some of you need to reassess the difference between whores and rapists
Originally posted by Tesseract what exaclty do you mean by rape?
Anything where the girl didn't explictly say yes....i.e drugged, passed out, or violently assualted and having it happen. It can't only be when she is attacked.
I remember... back when I was little, like 6 or 7, my mom told me
something. It was about why I shouldn't talk to strangers.
I was an ignorant little piece of shit, and I should have listened more
thoroughly, but from what I can remember, something happened to
her when she was a kid. She had been walking down the road her
home was on, when one of the adults she knew from around the
area had asked her to get in the car, something along those lines.
Because of how small I was, she didn't get into detail. She just said he
did bad things to her, really bad things, something about touching her...
and that I couldn't tell anyone, it was between us.... because she knew
if my dad ever found out he would kill the guy. For whatever reason,
she didn't want that happening.
I have never asked her about it since. I've always wondered though,
in the back of my mind, in that place between memory and conscious,
what the hell she could've meant. I never truly devoted any brainpower
to thinking about it, because then I would've realized what truly went on.
I hate everyone. But I'm a scumbag just like everyone else, it's all
just a toss of the dice if you're a sinner or a saint. I got lucky.
i don't like when girls get drunk, i seriously don't knwo if i want a wife that drinks, or if she does, she would definately have to be a light drinker.
i just can't get down with people who let mind altering substances (beer, liquor, weed, whatever) be their excuse in life.
i mean, no matter what i've done in my life, before i do things, i think of the consequences, if i paint i know i could maybe get caught, and if i drink and drive i realise i might kill someone or what have you, whatever it is, i'm aware of the end results.
i can't stand girls who drink until they don't know what's going on then get with guys, whether its one or two or more, that's stupid on their part.
a lot of girls use that to cry wolf i think to, which pisses me off almost as much as if they would have really got raped, because they knew ahead of time that they were drinking to much, and if they surely didnt want to be having sex after getting trashed, they should have had one of their girlfriends make sure that they didn't mess with any guys.
some of you guys don't seem to get that rape is when a girl says no, or isn't aware of what's going on.
a gangbang is not a rape. some girls are down with that.
that masturbation thing probably wouldn't work all the time. See, I went to school with this guy. He was pretty chilling. I remember he was a serious addict to stealing cars even more than us, particularly them easy as hell old Caravans.
A few years down the road, there is a rash of brutal sexual assaults (women, particularly older ones, were being tied up in the back of minivans and getting raped) going around. They finally caught the guy. It was this fool that I had used to chill with from time to time. I felt sick because I had just run into him on the subway a few days before the arrest. He seemed normal as hell, not some psycopathic horndog checking out every girl that walked by (as I tend to do sometimes). He had a girlfriend the whole time, so I'm sure it had a lot to do with the power aspect of the whole deal instead of lack of sex in his own life. I sure feel bad for the girlfriend, as well as the victims, of course. I hear he ain't doing too well in the pen, so at least that's something.
"What party can you go to, and I ain't there;
You bitches acting like you don't care."
THTHTHTH
12-18-2002, 08:25 PM
