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Payng Dues to Old Skool Writers -
01-18-2004, 03:13 AM
Word. What up Ya'll??? Looking to list from each city Old Skool writers that influenced your graff scene. I am from BIG BAD LOS ANGELES and these are the old skoolers from my citee.
CRIME K2S - KILL 2 SUCCEED
PRIME K2S
CHARLIE DTK - DOWN TO KILL
BLINKY DTK
MAKE STN - SECOND TO NONE
GIN TNT - DYNOMITE TEAM
RIVAL WCA - WEST COAST ARTITS
MINER WCA
SER WCA
PIRO WCA
and of course RISKY WCA
SKEPT STN
FRAME K2S
KRENZ
These guys were the shit and are the reason for LA graff writers writing today. SO RECOGNIZE!!!.
fool without some of these guys you would not be painting freely as you are now. That is if you are painting. That is like saying who cares about DONDI or TAKI 183 or SEEN from NY and so on....you must be some toy. these are the guys that influenced the guys that probably influenced you. So without them you'd probabby be no one which you probably are. I have been painting for two decades fool and if I had never seen the guys I listed up I probably would not have been into graff.
That is like anyone saying who cares about their pioneers, form breakers to rappes to punks to artists
Originally posted by LENS who cares? they're all dead now.
I recognize the people pushing the envelope. Not a bunch of fossils. Ooooooo, how venemous was dat?
that was gay.......im no old skool head......im very young.......15........but how can you disrespect old writers.......i have to agree with the other guy.......thats taking the piss.......stylewars is a so good......people like seen, cap (yeah, i know hes a prick), dondi, dez, min.......all them.........they inspire me to go out and paint.....what you said is fuckin gay..........ungrateful
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Tracy 168
Stay High 149
Taki 183
Cornbread
Iz the Wiz
Zephyr
Dondi
Seen
Skeme
Kaze
JA
Sane
Smith
Henry Chalfant
Duro
Phase2
Espo
Revs
Cost
Cope2
Daze
Min
Flint 707
Pistol One
Freedom
Futura 2000
Ghost
Haze
Lee
Mare 139
Lady Pink
Revolt
T Kid
And on the local side...
Sasquatch
Metro
Zroe
Vicious
Loser
Lamer
Huge
Abhor
Cops
Detr
Hore
Yuck JOKER
Bore
Belev
Bruiser
Ming
Spoil
Btoe
Hope
Motevs
Mover
Adek
Jets
Senik
Zae
Agres
HOD
4DC
DFM
KUK
DWA
KYT
DTC
And everyone else who put in work in the 90's.
My city doesn't have as long of a history as say, LA. Alot of these cats are still writing.
name droppin' a list of kids that you may or may not know personally, makes for a pointless thread. i do appriciate past writers, its true without them none of use would be involved but i gotta agree with lens... i pay more attention to those who are next level. if you get stuck on the oldies (as great as they were) then you are a graff historian. if thats the case go fill out an application for the history channel.
and from the begining this game has been about respecting the roots but facing forward and getting up.
besides, graff is different now. the word king has lost its meaning, the way its just idley tossed around. and graff masters dont pick up apprentices to share styles with so much any more. the days of truely paying dues by racking or filling in for an established writer are over.
names, what are they anymore? the graff scene is over saturated and is being run with a new set of rules. these days, just because someone has made a name in your city's recent past doesnt mean anyone has heard of them in my city. theres just not enough room on the bench for every name.
im not really old enough to have had writers influence me but i can say the writers who currently influencing me are kaper from ng, chide, tloko, dump, dondi, seen, espo, and few others
The people that started this artform paved the way, and we are all "biting" them in theory. Not to say there aren't some very skilled writers today, all I'm saying is that we need to give love to those who started this shit.
-Taki 183
-Dondi
-Skeme
-Seen UA
-Duro
-Mare
The people that started this artform paved the way, and we are all "biting" them in theory. Not to say there aren't some very skilled writers today, all I'm saying is that we need to give love to those who started this shit.
ORIGINALLY POSTED BY:ADEPT
i appriciate the legendaries. what i am talking about are the more recent old school local heros in every nook and cranny around the world that never really found massive aclaim outside their city. the list could be 50 pages long to what end? whats the point? many of those writers are regional or slightly better. why collect and trade names like that? next thing you know there will be graff trading cards.
SINCE GRAFF HAS GONE GLOBAL I PAY MORE ATTENTION TO WRITERS THAT ARE IN THE HERE AND NOW, SITTING ON TOP OF THE WORLD. not writers that used to have a city on lock 7 years ago. if the scene is world wide, what are the chances someone hundreds of thousands of miles away is gonna know of or even be concerned with who blew up that area right over there for a minute in the 90's? how could anyone keep up with every local champ who held a 15 minute slot in any given city around the world. the scope is so much bigger than that these days. dont get me wrong, not saying you shouldnt care about those that influenced you but there are too many names out there to be concerned with them all, like i said before its over saturation. instead i prefer to focus on those who are contuing to impress in the international scene. world wide focus.
Sasquatch
Metro
Zroe
Vicious
Loser
Lamer
Huge
Abhor
Cops
Detr
Hore
Yuck
Anyone who put in work in the 90's.
JOKER
My city doesn't have as long of a history as say, LA. Alot of these cats are still writing.
I could say a lot but look into these guys to revise your list, many are left out but...
HOPE
MING
MOVER
BORE
MOTEVS
and a grab bag of others...
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Rubbish Heap...
I really appreciate the higlighted nod in your list but I have to step up and renounce myself from it. Here are a few reasons why...
First, and most important in regards to this topic, I'm not from this city. I have no part in it's writing history. Guys like Ming and Bruiser should have the highlighted shout-out for what they have done and contributed.
Second, indeed I did paint often but my numbers mainly included legal spots. My short lived bombing spree in this town couldn't even compete with a weekend of work done by Hope or Huge. And my two or so years dedicated to freights while living here don't make a mark in the city itself.
Like I said, I appreciate the appreciation. I just don't feel that I deserve it as much as a lot of other guys on that list, who are actually from this city. And I knnow this thread is not meant to be taken seriously, but I am.
Originally posted by Joker quote:Originally posted by rubbish heap
And on the local side...
Sasquatch
Metro
Zroe
Vicious
Loser
Lamer
Huge
Abhor
Cops
Detr
Hore
Yuck
Anyone who put in work in the 90's.
JOKER
My city doesn't have as long of a history as say, LA. Alot of these cats are still writing.
I could say a lot but look into these guys to revise your list, many are left out but...
HOPE
MING
MOVER
BORE
MOTEVS
and a grab bag of others...
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Rubbish Heap...
I really appreciate the higlighted nod in your list but I have to step up and renounce myself from it. Here are a few reasons why...
First, and most important in regards to this topic, I'm not from this city. I have no part in it's writing history. Guys like Ming and Bruiser should have the highlighted shout-out for what they have done and contributed.
Second, indeed I did paint often but my numbers mainly included legal spots. My short lived bombing spree in this town couldn't even compete with a weekend of work done by Hope or Huge. And my two or so years dedicated to freights while living here don't make a mark in the city itself.
Like I said, I appreciate the appreciation. I just don't feel that I deserve it as much as a lot of other guys on that list, who are actually from this city. And I knnow this thread is not meant to be taken seriously, but I am.
Still to this day, my favorites are:
Jets
Mover
Metro
Spoil
Joker, you've got to be one of the most humble people out there...
when i was a rookie i knew i wanted to both piece and bomb. here are some cats that was either bangin mad tags on gates, slappin up mad fill ins, bangin mad silvers and simple styles or doing a lot of bad ass pieces or all of the above, and got me amped to do my thang:
TOP 40 --no particular order---
per
ces
clark
seen
bom5
med
yes2
ead
serve
nicer
bio
cope2
tore
ant2
louie hr
saze
eroc
cromag
core2
dmand
easy
joz
sane
smith
rd 357
ja
tkid
shame125
jest
nes
wane
cav
key
sento
wips
reas
dero
vet
poem
west