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CHICAGO - The decade-long U.S. ban on assault weapons expired Monday. The measure, signed by President Clinton, had outlawed 19 types of military-style assault weapons, banned certain features on firearms such as bayonet mounts, and limited ammunition magazines to 10 rounds. But gun sellers and manufacturers say they do not expect to see any immediate surge in orders for the weapons.
"The thought that people are lined up around the block or that guns are going to flood the streets, that's nonsense," said Mark Westrom, owner of firearms manufacturer ArmaLite Inc.
For one thing, the gun industry says, weapons very similar to those banned have been legally available over the past decade. Also, because of a grandfather clause in the 1994 law, assault weapons or ammunition clips that were manufactured before the ban took effect could still be legally sold over the past 10 years.
Gregory Tropino, president of G.A.T. Guns in Dundee, said his store has fielded several calls about the ban's end, but none from people clamoring for the new guns. Joe McBride, president of McBride's Guns in Austin, Texas, said he expects interest in the new ammunition magazines, but he has not noticed any increase in traffic at his store over news of the ban's end. McBride said some gun dealers also might be leery of stocking up too much on post-ban firearms.
"I think there's some wariness about what might be reinstated after the election," McBride said. A clause in the 1994 ban said it would expire unless Congress specifically reauthorized it. President Bush did not lobby the Republican-controlled Congress to renew the ban, and the deadline passed without a vote.
The expiration of the ban means firearms like TEC-9s can now be legally bought. But some of the 19 weapons — foreign-made guns like the Russian- or Chinese-made AK-47 and the Israeli-manufactured Uzi — are still banned under a 1989 law prohibiting imports of specific automatic weapons.
At ArmaLite, based in Geneseo, Westrom said it will take some time for the company to produce and ship rifles that contain features the act banned. Even so, he said, the rifles will appeal mainly to collectors, not the hunters and target shooters who account for a good portion of ArmaLite's business.
what you guys arent realizing, is that the 'ban' was bullshit, composed to appease the media and the masses. you could still legally purchase any of those weapons from any gun dealer. i bought an AK and 30 round clips in '97, well after the ban took place. when it says
"The measure, signed by President Clinton, had outlawed 19 types of military-style assault weapons, banned certain features on firearms such as bayonet mounts, and limited ammunition magazines to 10 rounds"
all it really means is that it outlawed the import of 19 types of military style weapons, so those made (or even assembled) in america were still perfectly legal. bayonet mounts, folding stocks and pistol grips on rifles were still legal as long as 10 pieces of a rifle were produced in the united states. which means if you had a bulgarian made ak, imported before the ban, all you had to do was replace 10 parts, and all the 'banned' stuff was now legal. replace the sight, the sling, the butt plate, the 4 hand grips, the trigger and a spring, and you could now legally put a bayonette on it. the weapons were never illegal to have. clips larger than 10 rounds were never illegal to have. last month, you could still buy them on the internet for about 8 dollars a piece.
basically, the ban never did anything, and lifting the ban does just as little. it was a media ploy to begin with, and it's a media ploy now.
GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!!! The "ban" was bullshit!
If someone wants to harm or kill you, they are going to do it! It doesn't matter if they have a fucking AK or a glock! You thinkg Mr. Terrorist is going to cancel his shooting spree because he couldn't get that AK-47 he wanted so bad at WalMart? NO! He'll get the shit off the streets or overseas.
If you're shaking in your boots that assault rifles are legal now you should go jump off an overpass.
Originally posted by omar hahah welcome to america
holy shit this news blew my fuckin mind, ak's only have one specific purpouse, and thats killing other human beings. jesus christ.
Glocks and Rugers are legal too? Is that blowing your mind? GUNS ARE GUNS. THE SHOOT BULLETS. BULLETS KILL. And it really doesn't matter wheter the bullet came from a "banned: AK 47 or the 44 from the Sports Authority.
Originally posted by Pfffffffffft seeking youre funny as hell, im glad i could get a good laugh on these threads...makes up for that drab class i just got out of..
so i guess a country music gun would be a shotgun?
sort of. i dont know much about country music, but i know that there are alot of anecdotal references to beer, cheating women, shotguns and dogs in country music, so i'd say that shotguns sound about right. i think more specifically, it should be a shotgun handed down from your father, but one you bought at walmart could work too.
i was under the impression that a non military/law enforcement individual could get a fully auto weapon as long as they had a class III license. the above article contradicts that...?
It\'s alright to be a redneck. It\'s alright to have a girl named Thelma Lou, don\'t mind a little kiss when you got a little chew. -Alan Jackson
Assault weapons are getting alot of bad talk these days, but really they're for hunting todays modern super-animal, such as the flying squirle , or the electric eel.
Originally posted by seeking it should be a shotgun handed down from your father, but one you bought at walmart could work too.
hahahahaha, a breech loadin one.
with some sort of gold plated stock w/pictues of famous civil war generals on it. one that you might have bought from the pages of an Field & Stream or Hand Gun in the midst of commemorative dishes.
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"and that's how the south won the war kids."
Originally posted by Hank Parker Assault weapons are getting alot of bad talk these days, but really they're for hunting todays modern super-animal, such as the flying squirle , or the electric eel.
i saw that episode today
"Timmy, do you ever get lonely?"
"Yes"
"Well, if you squeeze me, I make bad people go away."
Originally posted by IMFINETHANKYOU GIVE ME A FUCKING BREAK!!! The "ban" was bullshit!
If someone wants to harm or kill you, they are going to do it! It doesn't matter if they have a fucking AK or a glock! You thinkg Mr. Terrorist is going to cancel his shooting spree because he couldn't get that AK-47 he wanted so bad at WalMart? NO! He'll get the shit off the streets or overseas.
If you're shaking in your boots that assault rifles are legal now you should go jump off an overpass.
i dont htink terrorists are the only ones that use aks, or will use aks in the states...check compton
Originally posted by dowmagik i was under the impression that a non military/law enforcement individual could get a fully auto weapon as long as they had a class III license. the above article contradicts that...?
the above article is an incredible over simplification of things.
fully auto weapons are legal, as long as they were imported into the states before the ban on them (1986 i think, but i could be wrong). they are much more heavily regulated than semi-auto weapons, but they are not illegal to own (given that the weapons themselves are legal). weapons that were semi-auto, but were converted to fully, are always illegal.
Federal ban on assault weapons ended yesterday. -
09-14-2004, 01:24 PM
