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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-21-2011, 05:32 AM

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KEYBOARD SIMPLES


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YOU KNOW HOW IT IS. Learn the basics. That means Raw letters, no arrow like extensions, copy your keyboard.

The style changes from letter to letter, basics will teach you consistency,




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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-21-2011, 03:04 PM

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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-21-2011, 03:12 PM

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^ LAUGHS

KEYBOARD SIMPLES


PLEASE

YOU KNOW HOW IT IS. Learn the basics. That means Raw letters, no arrow like extensions, copy your keyboard.

The style changes from letter to letter, basics will teach you consistency,

everyone should just read this and then post
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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-21-2011, 06:00 PM

I think I got it


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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-21-2011, 07:13 PM

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everyone should just read this and then post
there are several schools of thought on how style should be developed... THis is the most common.
But if you don't push yourself occasionally to go above your ability, you won't get any wilder.
The key for me is to go wild (it usually looks bad), then refine the idea to a strong structure (starts to look better) and repeat the outline a few times (makes it clean and organized).
That being said, i have learned the basics of letter structure though keyboard simples or quick straightletters and blockbusters.
Also, don't stick just to your name, learn all the letters in the alphabet, do exchanges, enter battles, TRY DIFFERENT LETTER COMBOS!
Practice, Practice Practice. OR quit.

*edit - chanchi - keyboard simples. NOW. and only simples.




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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-21-2011, 09:51 PM

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I think I got it


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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-21-2011, 10:03 PM

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there are several schools of thought on how style should be developed... THis is the most common.
But if you don't push yourself occasionally to go above your ability, you won't get any wilder.
The key for me is to go wild (it usually looks bad), then refine the idea to a strong structure (starts to look better) and repeat the outline a few times (makes it clean and organized).
That being said, i have learned the basics of letter structure though keyboard simples or quick straightletters and blockbusters.
Also, don't stick just to your name, learn all the letters in the alphabet, do exchanges, enter battles, TRY DIFFERENT LETTER COMBOS!
Practice, Practice Practice. OR quit.

*edit - chanchi - keyboard simples. NOW. and only simples.
now I know the structure of my letters I work almost to the reverse of what you desribed, i get the basic shape of the letters on the page then work on getting them flowing into each other or getting the connections in place and getting a little more wild into the structure.

but to everyone who is told to do simples that is because I did a shit load of simple for about a year working solidly. Check back to 2008/2009 in this thread and I started posting in here back then, once those simples are down it comes so much more naturally




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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-21-2011, 10:21 PM

usually now i stick to simples, but when i get a little bored i'll go wild, it'll look akward, but there are a few things that have potential, so i take those things and continue using them, and go back to simples with a new trick or too. I don't usually do the extensions/addons things yet, cuz they tend to detract from the core structure of the piece, but every once in a while i can get one to work, and then i have a new trick.




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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-21-2011, 10:30 PM

your not gonna go no where if you don't experiment, i fucks with simples on the regular, and the reason for that is because it builds a base for your style to develop from, you have to have a foundation.. that being said if you don't push yourself to try new things and experiment with your letters you will never progress, you'll be doing to same thing over and over again,
i spend most of the time doing simples as of now because i want my foundation to be solid, but i still make time to play with porportions. i'll take that basic letter and then stretch one of the bars or fatten it up in certain places etc.. thats how you develop a style thats yours, you fuck with it until you find something you like. you look at how other people do their shit and try to build off it more or less, there are certain letters that everyone uses, but everyone makes it there own

example, start out with shit like this, and then you build off of it as time progresses. im not gonna bump that MER i did a while back, but that style i was rocking all started with this shit right here...

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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-21-2011, 10:44 PM

I mean i got wilder styles, i know how to rock em, but, i just keep doing simples, must be the graphic design im doing, stuff i can use on my projects n junk. having a solid simple style, to me feels like that is the way to get better at graff.




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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-21-2011, 11:51 PM

and to each his own, but to me the wilder stuff with a solid core is what attracts me to the graffiti scene. Only a few extensions to balance the piece, and some cool little addons for style.




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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-22-2011, 05:43 AM

for the "Official toy battle thread" -- http://www.12ozprophet.com/forum/sho...20030&page=171


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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-22-2011, 05:54 AM

Connections don't work. Could've been sterive, strive?
Background doesn't really help it either.




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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-22-2011, 05:55 AM

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now I know the structure of my letters I work almost to the reverse of what you desribed, i get the basic shape of the letters on the page then work on getting them flowing into each other or getting the connections in place and getting a little more wild into the structure.

but to everyone who is told to do simples that is because I did a shit load of simple for about a year working solidly. Check back to 2008/2009 in this thread and I started posting in here back then, once those simples are down it comes so much more naturally
did you post in the bombingscience toy thread?
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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-22-2011, 07:27 PM

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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-22-2011, 07:32 PM

Thats an eye opener redeye, massive props to alts.
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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-22-2011, 10:42 PM

All crits and opinions appreciated, seriously, be as harsh as you like. (and constructive)

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Thumbs up Re: Toys post here... - 06-22-2011, 11:26 PM

^^^NOT TOY AT ALL^^^

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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-22-2011, 11:29 PM

yokai u cant really tell that a I at the end

u shud try a different style
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Thumbs up Re: Toys post here... - 06-22-2011, 11:34 PM

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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-22-2011, 11:38 PM

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Thumbs up Re: Toys post here... - 06-22-2011, 11:43 PM

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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-22-2011, 11:44 PM

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All crits and opinions appreciated, seriously, be as harsh as you like. (and constructive)

not bad, but i'm gonna say some shit that i see, take it or leave it, looks pretty good man.
anyways, the I is kinda wack, can't really tell it's an I, The bottom bar has more weight than the middle bar, detracts from the structure.
The fill needs another dimension, that's a cool backgrond, but there should be more interaction between teh fill colors. Or maybe just more technique used in the fill.
The color scheme is good, but the 3d could definitely be cleaner.
handstyle needs some flow and simplficatiion, just do it simple and over and over and over and it will get style.
I wouldn't get this detailed with a crit if i didn't see serious potential in something, not nto wasting my time on most kids these days, but you def got a style goin there that could look real dope with some refining.




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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-22-2011, 11:48 PM

hahaha oh my shocking when you look back sometimes, but makes you feel good when you think how much you've improved




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Default Re: Toys post here... - 06-22-2011, 11:53 PM



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