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Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums

Discussion in 'Metal Heads' started by KaBar, Oct 13, 2001.

  1. HOGZ

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    rolling nowhere - Replied Jan 22, 2013

    who the fuck is jonh bernay? are YOU john bernay? whats the point of all this shit???
     
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    http://www.smh.com.au/nsw/woman-hitches-fourhour-ride-on-roof-of-train-that-reached-speeds-of-115kmh-police-20130123-2d637.html

    A woman who allegedly hitched a ride on the top of a freight train as it travelled at speeds of up to 115km/h in western NSW has been charged by police.
    After clinging to the top of the train for the four-hour journey from Broken Hill to Ivanhoe, the 27-year-old woman jumped from the roof of the train as it stopped at a railway station and walked away uninjured, police allege.
    Police said the train driver saw the woman climb on to the roof of the freight train as it stopped at Broken Hill about 3am on Tuesday.
    The train continued on its 320km journey and reached speeds of 115km/h before stopping at Ivanhoe Railway Station.

    The train driver contacted police and gave them a description of the woman.
    A short time later, officers stopped a woman matching the driver's description as she walked along the Cobb Highway towards Ivanhoe's town centre.
    The woman, who was attempting to make her way to Adelaide, was taken to Ivanhoe where other travel arrangements were made.
    The Broken Hill woman will be issued with a court attendance notice for travelling on part of train not intended for passenger use.
    She is due to appear in Broken Hill Local Court on March 11.

    first time I heard of freight hopping in australia
     
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    thats awesome.
     
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    flatcar - Replied Jan 24, 2013

    Just a short note:

    Danville Dan has caught the Westbound! A good man and he will be missed.
     
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    i tilted the camera getting the pics it kinda turned into a hump yard haha.
     
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    Really sorry to hear about Danville Dan's passing. He was a really good guy, and a very talented guitar player and singer. Last time I saw him he had driven an old Chevy up to Britt. He turned it into a "camper" by removing the passenger seat and stacking a couple of pallets there so he could stretch out to sleep. He was selling walking sticks to raise money to get back home. On his trip up to Britt his old car started overheating, and Backwoods Jack (a consummate auto mechanic and junkyard commando) went and got him a junkyard radiator and installed it for free.

    Danville was a rounder back in the day, but by the time I met him he had developed a host of medical problems--he couldn't walk very far, and had all manner of old people health problems, but he still made it up to Britt for one last Convention. He could still play the guitar and sing pretty well, but he was physically weak and it took a lot out of him. He hated getting old and sick, but there wasn't much he could do about it. The damage was done when he was much younger. Like pretty much everybody else does, he never thought he would live as long as he did. So he smoked and drank and all that, but it got him in the end.

    Adios, Danville! Keep your knees in the breeze, brother!

    R.I.P. DANVILLE DAN.
     
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    I agree with Littlejohn's statement about Britt: "It's fun, but it's not reality." The problem these guys had in making this video is the same problem almost all neophyte train riders have--they needed an experienced tramp to teach them the rules and the culture. It seems like to me that these guys did everything they could to skyline themselves, but their biggest mistake was in trying to catch out in big yards in the daylight. I don't really blame them for it--they didn't know any better--but you'd think that "Not getting seen by anybody when you're breaking the law" would be a pretty basic tenet of life.

    "Learning by doing" is one way to do it, but if the cops had been a little more hard-ass these guys would have spent several days in jail.

    They didn't show their catching technique much, but they seemed to have the basics down okay. At least nobody got killed or run over, but their logistics weren't great. I noted the following problems:

    1.) Not enough water. They were heading across the desert in early September. It's still really hot, and water points (places to get water) are not exactly numerous.

    2.) Not enough food. They should have been carrying at least a week's worth of food. Several days, anyway.

    3.) Too tight of a schedule. Trying to hop against the clock is difficult even for a true veteran tramp. Give yourself plenty of extra time for a trip, and take into account delays, weekends, etc. Then double it.

    4.) Too much gear. That one guy looked like he was carrying at least 60 pounds. Too much. You want the bare-bones basics, what is necessary for survival: water, food, a coat, a hat, gloves, a pocket knife or a Leatherman tool, a few Bic lighters, a gunboat, maybe a change of clothes, and a sleeping bag or blanket bindle. And a good map and a compass. Much more than that and you're overloaded.

    Fishbones said it best, "Coast-to-coast on a piece of toast."
     
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    flatcar - Replied Feb 26, 2013

    I agree Kabar, Britt has not been "reality" for a long time. It's a "Sturgis" type event. These guys were out in the open way too much. Taking a super long trip for the first time is always a mistake. My first trip was a short one (dunsmuir to K-falls). Now its more fun for me on a bike.
     
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    No traffic since February? Whoa. Is "Hobos, Tramps and Homeless Bums" over and done?
     
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    where you been kabar!!!! good to see youre posting again.
     
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    KaBar.. I found out about this forum from a survivalist forum im on. One of our junior members posted a link to here stating that the site contained "10 years of wisdom and knowledge on living the minimalist lifestyle"
    I have read this thread from its beginning and I gotta tell ya man.. Sometimes in life we come across people who are so unique and so inspiring that reading their words has impact. From the early days of your posts where you educated the young pups on living a dignified life by not stealing or begging and imparted upon them the life wisdom of keeping a clean camp and all the real world implications that simple lesson embodies.
    To be honest as I was reading through the thread long about 2005 I started to think "man this guys cool, I hope nothing has happened to him" simply because of the long period of time that the thread spans. Kinda funny yeah I know but as I read it played out like a novel that I knew was in fact reality..
    Im not a young man myself at age 43 so I find it all that much more pleasantly peculiar that you would be here of all places, a forum whose perception is a place geared for the young edgy crowd of society..
    Thank you for the gift of your wisdom and your experiences, your one seriously cool dude...
     
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    Justanothergunnut--

    Thank you for the kind words, brother, I do appreciate them. The truth is, of course, that I probably learned as much from the other people on this forum as they learned from me. People go through different stages in their lives, starting in childhood. The first few phases are extremely important--learning to trust the world around one, becoming an individual separate from one's parents, wanting to participate in the activities of the adults, wanting to be independent of one's family and so on. As people get towards the end of life, the desire to share whatever knowledge you have acquired becomes stronger and stronger. Not only to help the younger people around you, your children, your family, but it's also a way to insure one's own immortality. Everybody rides that Westbound eventually. But some people live on for years and years in the memories of those left behind. Consider the real tramp, "A No. 1." He was a real guy who rode the rails around the time of WWI, I think, and he wrote a book. A well-known movie was made about him (although it wasn't very factual.) Tramps today still admire him. Or "TEX KT" (Tex, King of Tramps) who left his streak all over North America. We discovered a painted-over "TEX KT" streak carved into a door frame of the headquarters station of the Missouri, Kansas and Texas Railroad (the "Katy" railroad) in Sedalia, MO. The museum people didn't even realize it was there! I also found a streak carved into the brick wall outside, "Hobo Joe 1903."
    One of the reasons I post notices of the deaths of old-timers like Danville Dan, Fry Pan Jack and Iowa Blackie is so the young guys will remember them a little. It's also the reason that a National Hobo Cemetery exists in Britt, Iowa. People come to visit it, people who had never heard of Lord Open Road, or Mountain Dew or Cardboard or Red-head Honor John before they went to Britt.

    I worry about kids today. Many of them (millions, in fact) have grown up with no father, no favorite uncle, no grandfather to teach them the things they need to know to live lives as honorable, decent men and women. Girls, as well as boys, need to know how a decent man conducts himself. They need to know so they can choose a man for a husband or a life partner, and they also need to know because many of them will become the mother of boys. Those boys must be taught, by somebody, how to be a man. The behavior that just "occurs naturally" to boys (and emotionally immature adult men) may be masculine, but it may not be manly. Every person has a dark side. Anybody can give in to weakness. How many thousands of tramps are there who live their lives pickled in alcohol or stoned on pot, for instance? How many who seem to admire the philosophy of a stray dog? ("If you can't eat it, or fuck it, piss on it") Our nation is crumbling around us, not because we lack ambition, talent or ability, but because we lack a sound moral foundation.

    I'm no saint. I've certainly have made plenty of poor choices and done plenty of things I regret, but I try my best to live my life in an honorable way. And it may be a futile hope, but I hope that some of what I write will have a positive impact on the people who read it, and in that small way, become a positive influence on the world itself.

    Life is a series of choices. I just try to make the best choices I can, and not harm anybody else.
     
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